24 May
2002
24 May
'02
3:26 p.m.
I need some help. Jay West has kindly posted the file
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" at:
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/freeware-CDS/images/
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" is about 171 Mbytes in size. It is my
understanding that
the full size file "rt11freewarev2.iso" is exactly 671,088,640 bytes in
size which
is the CD for the RT11 Freeware CD produced by Tim Shoppa. However,
when
the download of the "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file is complete, I end up
with a file
that is 687,282,673 bytes which is different in size and can NOT be
identical to
the full size (and correct - Tim Shoppa used to have the full size image
at his
site and I downloaded it before it was changed to a ".bz2" image) image
of the
actual CD.
I am using Windows 98 SE/Netscape 4.78 and the normal WinZip in case
that
is part of the problem. Jay has told me:
"I spent about 6 hours this morning redownloading (from Tim's site) all
3
freeware cd's, uncompressing them, recalculating MD5 hashes, and
rezipping
them. The files I just downloaded compare identically with the files on
Tim's site, AND those files compare identically to the files I have had
on
my server for the past few weeks that you already downloaded. I even
downloaded those files from my server to my windows pc across the net
like
everyone else would, and they uncompress and compare identially to the
ones
on Tim's site. The files on my server have been completely correct since
day
1. I don't know what happened on your end when you downloaded the files,
but
I can assure you what is (and has been) on my site is a correct
identical
copy of Tim's."
I am confident that Jay is correct and that there is something I don't
understand
with what takes place when I do my download. Can anyone suggest to me
what
I am doing wrong? PLEASE!!
Sincerely yours,
Jeremy Fine
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24 May
24 May
3:36 p.m.
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
I need some help. Jay West has kindly posted the
file
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" at:
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/freeware-CDS/images/
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" is about 171 Mbytes in size. It is my
understanding that
the full size file "rt11freewarev2.iso" is exactly 671,088,640 bytes in
size which
is the CD for the RT11 Freeware CD produced by Tim Shoppa. However,
when
the download of the "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file is complete, I end up
with a file
that is 687,282,673 bytes which is different in size and can NOT be
identical to
the full size (and correct - Tim Shoppa used to have the full size image
at his
site and I downloaded it before it was changed to a ".bz2" image) image
of the
actual CD.
An iso file has a certain amount of overhead to it. A 687,282,673 byte
file wouldn't be out of line for a 650M CD.
I'd try burning it to a CDRW and see if it flies before I got very
worried.
Doc
25 May
25 May
1:37 a.m.
FYI - I just checked the uncompressed file size on my end (by uncompressing
the gz file) and the resulting file is in fact 671088640 bytes exactly.
I wonder if something in Jeromes netscape is getting in the way? Jerome, did
you run WinZip on the file that you downloaded, or does your netscape have
something in it that uncompresses it on the fly as it downloads or
something? Perhaps netscape is getting in the way. Also I SEEM to remember
something about in netscape you shouldn't click on a file you want to
download, you should right click on it and choose "save as" instead. I could
swear I remember seeing something posted about certain versions of netscape
you needed to download that way or something would go awry for certain
files? Just guessing from foggy memory, perhaps my recollection was related
to something else.
Jay West
1:58 a.m.
Rumor has it that Jay West may have mentioned these words:
FYI - I just checked the uncompressed file size on my
end (by uncompressing
the gz file) and the resulting file is in fact 671088640 bytes exactly.
I wonder if something in Jeromes netscape is getting in the way? Jerome, did
you run WinZip on the file that you downloaded, or does your netscape have
something in it that uncompresses it on the fly as it downloads or
something? Perhaps netscape is getting in the way. Also I SEEM to remember
something about in netscape you shouldn't click on a file you want to
download, you should right click on it and choose "save as" instead. I could
swear I remember seeing something posted about certain versions of netscape
you needed to download that way or something would go awry for certain
files? Just guessing from foggy memory, perhaps my recollection was related
to something else.
Yes, sometimes Nutscrape will 'lend a helping hand' and autoconvert files
for you, like it or not. It'll do this with .sit/.hqx files on Macintoshes
as well...
For most/all netscapes that I've used, holding down the [Shift] key when
clicking on the link means "Save As Directly" so you might wanna try that
as well.
HTH,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
2:44 a.m.
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote:
I had totally forgotten about that feature. I can't really speak to
Windows Netscape, but in Linux a downloaded .gz file was guaranteed to
be corrupt.
That "feature" greatly boosted the popularity of both Mozilla and
bzip2 compression.
Until Mozilla became stable enough for daily use, I used Lynx for
downloads. Now Mozilla writes your download, as a temporary file, into
/tmp, no matter what the target directory, then moves it to the target
only after the download completes. Since my /tmp filesystem is about
500M, I'm back to Lynx....
Doc
something about
in netscape you shouldn't click on a file you want to
download, you should right click on it and choose "save as" instead. I could
swear I remember seeing something posted about certain versions of netscape
you needed to download that way or something would go awry for certain
files? Just guessing from foggy memory, perhaps my recollection was related
to something else.
Yes, sometimes Nutscrape will 'lend a helping hand' and autoconvert files
for you, like it or not. It'll do this with .sit/.hqx files on Macintoshes
as well...
1:20 p.m.
Doc wrote:
I need some
help. Jay West has kindly posted the file
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" at:
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/freeware-CDS/images/
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" is about 171 Mbytes in size. It is my
understanding that
the full size file "rt11freewarev2.iso"
is exactly 671,088,640 bytes in
size which
is the CD for the RT11 Freeware CD produced by
Tim Shoppa. However, when
the download of the "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file is complete, I end up
with a file
that is 687,282,673 bytes which is different in
size and can NOT be
identical to
the full size (and correct - Tim Shoppa used to
have the full size image
at his
site and I downloaded it before it was changed to
a ".bz2" image) image of
the
actual CD.
An iso file has a certain
amount of overhead to it. A 687,282,673 byte
file wouldn't be out of line for a 650M CD.
I'd try burning it to a CDRW and see if it flies before I got very
worried. 
9:29 a.m.
Jerome Fine replies"
I finally had an hour today and did a "Burn Image" to a CDRW from the
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file (687,282,673 bytes) that was the result of the
download from the classiccmp site. Unfortunately, Nero Burning under
Windows 98 made an exact duplicate of the file to the CD and the result
is therefore, obviously hopeless, as far as what is actually needed to set
up the correct ISO file structure on the CD, let alone the correct RT-11
file structure in RT-11 partitions 13 to 19.
So I am again back to square ONE! The ".gz" files at the classiccmp
site do NOT behave when I do the download since the uncompress
occurs during the download. Under Netscape 4.78/Windows 98, I
click the menu item "Save link as ..." and follow through by Save
after I select the directory into which to place the downloaded file.
But I don't end up with the actual file from the classiccmp site. Rather
that expanded file is the result which "Nero Burning" just copies to
a CD which ends up being useless.
Any other suggestion? I am getting a bit desperate - well maybe not
desperate, but I am really confused and perplexed.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
Jerome,
In 'nutscape, at that page where you got this image file, before
clicking that link to begin download process, hold down shift key
while clicking on it.
IE and Nut does that to some files on occasion. That why I use shift
key to transfer those fussy files intact.
Cheers,
Wizard
26 May
26 May
9:38 a.m.
jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
Jerome Fine
replies"
I finally had an hour today and did a "Burn Image" to a CDRW from the
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file (687,282,673 bytes) that was the result of the
download from the classiccmp site. Unfortunately, Nero Burning under
Windows 98 made an exact duplicate of the file to the CD and the result
is therefore, obviously hopeless, as far as what is actually needed to set
up the correct ISO file structure on the CD, let alone the correct RT-11
file structure in RT-11 partitions 13 to 19.
So I am again back to square ONE! The ".gz" files at the classiccmp
site do NOT behave when I do the download since the uncompress
occurs during the download. Under Netscape 4.78/Windows 98, I
click the menu item "Save link as ..." and follow through by Save
after I select the directory into which to place the downloaded file.
But I don't end up with the actual file from the classiccmp site. Rather
that expanded file is the result which "Nero Burning" just copies to
a CD which ends up being useless.
In 'nutscape, at that page where you got
this image file, before
clicking that link to begin download process, hold down shift key
while clicking on it. IE and Nut does that to some files on occasion. That
why I use shift
key to transfer those fussy files intact.
I also shifted to my wife's computer which is running Windows XP/IE.
I tried holding the SHIFT key down during "Save target as ..." and
that did NOT prevent the file from being expanded.
HOWEVER, under Windows XP/IE it DID result in the file being
downloaded CORRECTLY. The final expanded file was named
the same (it was still a ".gz" file), but the size and contents were
IDENTICAL to the original full size file of the CD image.
So, while I have a solution, it is definitely not a reasonable one.
But I guess I might conclude that Windows 98/Netscape 4.78
is NOT executing correctly if Windows XP/IE does download
the same file correctly.
By the way, I also attempted to download ".tar.Z" files and they
were done correctly under Windows 98/Netscape 4.78, so they
are not a problem. Does anyone know of any other ".gz" files
I could test with?
Any more suggestions? PLEASE!
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
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5:58 a.m.
From: "Jerome H. Fine"
<jhfinepw4z(a)compsys.to>
Organization: Just Sufficient
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: ".gz" files
Reply-to: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:38:59 -0400
jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
> Jerome Fine replies"
I want to
thank both Wizard and Roger Merchberger for their help.
I tried that in many different ways - only during one of the 3 clicks
and during all three clicks. It did NOT work.
IE and Nut does that to some files on occasion.
That why I use shift
key to transfer those fussy files intact.
I also shifted to my wife's computer which is running Windows XP/IE.
I tried holding the SHIFT key down during "Save target as ..." and
that did NOT prevent the file from being expanded.
HOWEVER, under Windows XP/IE it DID result in the file being
downloaded CORRECTLY. The final expanded file was named
the same (it was still a ".gz" file), but the size and contents were
IDENTICAL to the original full size file of the CD image.
So, while I have a solution, it is definitely not a reasonable one.
But I guess I might conclude that Windows 98/Netscape 4.78
is NOT executing correctly if Windows XP/IE does download
the same file correctly.
By the way, I also attempted to download ".tar.Z" files and they
were done correctly under Windows 98/Netscape 4.78, so they
are not a problem. Does anyone know of any other ".gz" files
I could test with?
Any more suggestions? PLEASE!
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
12:56 p.m.
jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote:
I had this similar problem too even with right shift
key, what I did
was add extra characters or like to end of that file like .gz, .hqx
to like .gz.goofy, .hqx.txt while saving as before beginning the
download. This is to block the dumb automatic things from taking
place and mash your precious file in the process.
Jerome Fine replies:
The files that I want to download are the ".gz" files at:
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/
Any suggestions as to how "goofy" or "txt" can be added
to the file names so that people like myself who have dumb
software link Windows 98/Netscape 4.78 can get them
downloaded correctly?
Obviously, Jay, I am actually speaking to you. Might it be
possible to set up a second link pointing to the same file
but one which ends in "txt" for those of us who have faulty
software? If you can do so, please send me an e-mail and
I can test it ASAP?
Since I was able to download successfully under Windows XP/
Internet Explorer (although the expansion did take place
automatically without my agreeing to the expansion - and the
result was a file IDENTICAL to the original full size image
for the ISO file), obviously there is nothing wrong with the
file on your site - it is the downloading software at my end -
another reason to dislike M$.
What I find to be really "interesting" is that when I run FC.EXE
under Windows 98 and compare the original image of the CD
file vs the faulty expansion from your ".gz" file, FC says they are
identical even though when I use RT-11 under Ersatz-11 to
compare the two files with BINCOM, the two files are NOT
identical!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now what is FC.EXE doing?????????
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
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12:38 p.m.
Sounds like maybe RT-11 (with which I'm admittedly not familiar) is
considering some metadata that differs (or is missing) in one of the two
files--even though they look the same in a byte-for-byte compare under DOS?
27 May
27 May
4:38 a.m.
Sounds like maybe RT-11 (with which I'm admittedly
not familiar) is
considering some metadata that differs (or is missing) in one of the two
files--even though they look the same in a byte-for-byte compare under
DOS?
RT BINCOM compares files byte-for-byte from beginning to end. Flat
file structure, no metadata to compare. I would believe it before
I believed the DOS compare...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
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+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
6:49 a.m.
Megan wrote:
Sounds like
maybe RT-11 (with which I'm admittedly not familiar) is
considering some metadata that differs (or is missing) in one of the two
files--even though they look the same in a byte-for-byte compare under
DOS?
RT BINCOM compares files byte-for-byte from beginning to end. Flat
file structure, no metadata to compare. I would believe it before
I believed the DOS compare... 
26 May
26 May
6:44 p.m.
On 2002.05.26 23:38 Jerome H. Fine wrote:
By the way, I also attempted to download
".tar.Z" files and they
were done correctly under Windows 98/Netscape 4.78, so they
are not a problem. Does anyone know of any other ".gz" files
I could test with?
The problem I found wonce with Netscape is, that it knows: OH!
.gz. that
is compressed, I will decompress it for my user and when I am on the way
I will do a character set conversion (WinDOS PC to latin1 e.g.).
So This problem may depend on improper MIME type settings on the server
and / or false interpretation of MINE types by Netscape.
I don't use Netscape for downloads because of this. I use ftp, wget or
curl.
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
27 May
27 May
5:12 a.m.
New subject: Greenkeys Whale: DEC in OK
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2025932212
This guy is selling an officeload of DEC in OK City
Large load, very small price.
Actually it looks like it would fit in a single pickup truck
but it's only $60 at present and is well detailed down
on the page. Perhaps the list can subdivide it somehow?
Worth a look.
John A.
26 May
26 May
12:38 a.m.
You need to uncompress the image file before burning it to the
disc. winzip (for windows) will do this, also 'gzip -d' or 'gunzip'
in unix.
Clint
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
Jerome Fine replies"
I finally had an hour today and did a "Burn Image" to a CDRW from the
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file (687,282,673 bytes) that was the result of the
download from the classiccmp site. Unfortunately, Nero Burning under
Windows 98 made an exact duplicate of the file to the CD and the result
is therefore, obviously hopeless, as far as what is actually needed to set
up the correct ISO file structure on the CD, let alone the correct RT-11
file structure in RT-11 partitions 13 to 19.
So I am again back to square ONE! The ".gz" files at the classiccmp
site do NOT behave when I do the download since the uncompress
occurs during the download. Under Netscape 4.78/Windows 98, I
click the menu item "Save link as ..." and follow through by Save
after I select the directory into which to place the downloaded file.
But I don't end up with the actual file from the classiccmp site. Rather
that expanded file is the result which "Nero Burning" just copies to
a CD which ends up being useless.
Any other suggestion? I am getting a bit desperate - well maybe not
desperate, but I am really confused and perplexed.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
--
If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail
address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk
e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be
obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the
'at' with the four digits of the current year.
Doc wrote:
I need
some help. Jay West has kindly posted the file
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" at:
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/freeware-CDS/images/
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" is about 171 Mbytes in size. It is my
understanding that
the full size file "rt11freewarev2.iso"
is exactly 671,088,640 bytes in
size which
is the CD for the RT11 Freeware CD produced by
Tim Shoppa. However, when
the download of the "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file is complete, I end up
with a file
that is 687,282,673 bytes which is different in
size and can NOT be
identical to
the full size (and correct - Tim Shoppa used to
have the full size image
at his
site and I downloaded it before it was changed to
a ".bz2" image) image of
the
actual CD.
An iso file has a certain
amount of overhead to it. A 687,282,673 byte
file wouldn't be out of line for a 650M CD.
I'd try burning it to a CDRW and see if it flies before I got very
worried. 
25 May
25 May
2:41 a.m.
At 11:26 PM 5/24/02 -0400, you wrote:
I need some help. Jay West has kindly posted the file
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" at:
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/freeware-CDS/images/
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" is about 171 Mbytes in size. It is my
understanding that
the full size file "rt11freewarev2.iso" is exactly 671,088,640 bytes in
size which
is the CD for the RT11 Freeware CD produced by Tim Shoppa. However,
when
the download of the "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file is complete, I end up
with a file
that is 687,282,673 bytes which is different in size and can NOT be
-snip-
I am using Windows 98 SE/Netscape 4.78 and the normal
WinZip in case
that
therein lies the problem.
I've had this problem with netscape for large downloads. Something
gets out of sync. Use wget instead for downloading, and gzip for
decompressing; they're both available for win32. Contact me off the
list if you want win32 command line executables.
Regards,
carlos.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org
29 May
29 May
2:35 p.m.
Carlos Murillo wrote:
At Jerome Fine
wrote:
I need some help. Jay West has kindly posted the file
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" at:
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/freeware-CDS/images/
"rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" is about 171 Mbytes in size. It is my
understanding that
the full size file "rt11freewarev2.iso" is exactly 671,088,640 bytes in
size which
is the CD for the RT11 Freeware CD produced by Tim Shoppa. However,
when
the download of the "rt11freewarev2.iso.gz" file is complete, I end up
with a file
that is 687,282,673 bytes which is different in size and can NOT be
-snip-
I am using Windows 98 SE/Netscape 4.78 and the
normal WinZip in case
that
therein lies the problem.
I've had this problem with netscape for large downloads. Something
gets out of sync. Use wget instead for downloading, and gzip for
decompressing; they're both available for win32. Contact me off the
list if you want win32 command line executables.
3 Jun
3 Jun
4:39 a.m.
Jerome wrote....
When I attempt to run wget, I receive the error
response file:
--17:49:29-- http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/rt11freewarev2.iso.gz
=> `rt11freewarev2.iso.gz'
Connecting to www.classiccmp.org:80... connected!
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
17:49:31 ERROR 403: Forbidden.
Eventually, I somehow got the idea to try:
wget -b
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/freeware-CDS/images/rt11freewarev2.is
o.gz
which is the address of the actual file rather than a pointer -
ok, here's the scoop - the files were not supposed to be at
/PDP-11/rt11freewarev2.iso.gz. The files that showed up there were some test
files that I was running and I accidentally left them on the server. The
only location that people should use is the second one that Jerome lists
above that has the full path.
Thanks!
Jay West
14 Jun
14 Jun
5:40 a.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K
Hallo,
I've built SimH (v2.9-9, and just tried v2.9-10) using MinGW on my Win2K box,
when I try to boot any attached disk devices (either CDROM images or my own
RZ23 dumped disks etc) I get the same error (shown below). Any clues please?
C:\Emuls\DEC>vax
VAX simulator V2.9-10
sim> load -r ka655.bin
sim> set rq0 ra92
sim> at rq0 netbsd.dsk
RQ: creating new file
sim> set rq1 cdrom
sim> at rq1 NetBSD_VAX_v1_5_2.iso
sim> b cpu
?[c
KA655-B V5.3, VMB 2.7
Performing normal system tests.
40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31..30..29..28..27..26..25..
24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09..
08..07..06..05..04..03..
Tests completed.
>>b dq1
(BOOT/R5:0 DQ1)
2..
?41 DEVASSIGN, DQ10
HALT instruction, PC: 00000C1A (MOVL (R11),SP)
sim>
thanks,
greg
5:47 a.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K
The deives in SIMH are RQ0, RQ1, etc. but the corresponding VAX devices
are DUA0, DUA1, etc. So you need to B DUA1, not B DQ1.
- Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Greg Elkin
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:40 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: SimH on Win2K
Hallo,
I've built SimH (v2.9-9, and just tried v2.9-10) using MinGW on my Win2K
box,
when I try to boot any attached disk devices (either CDROM images or my
own
RZ23 dumped disks etc) I get the same error (shown below). Any clues
please?
C:\Emuls\DEC>vax
VAX simulator V2.9-10
sim> load -r ka655.bin
sim> set rq0 ra92
sim> at rq0 netbsd.dsk
RQ: creating new file
sim> set rq1 cdrom
sim> at rq1 NetBSD_VAX_v1_5_2.iso
sim> b cpu
?[c
KA655-B V5.3, VMB 2.7
Performing normal system tests.
40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31..30..29..28..27..26..25..
24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09..
08..07..06..05..04..03..
Tests completed.
>>b dq1
(BOOT/R5:0 DQ1)
2..
?41 DEVASSIGN, DQ10
HALT instruction, PC: 00000C1A (MOVL (R11),SP)
sim>
thanks,
greg
6:48 a.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K
Bob Lafleur wrote
The deives in SIMH are RQ0, RQ1, etc. but the
corresponding VAX
devices are DUA0, DUA1, etc. So you need to B DUA1, not B DQ1.
Thanks Bob, that indeed was the problem.
After all these years of typing "B DUA0:" at the DEC sergeant (>>>) one
would
think I could remember it!
greg, happily booting NetBSD & VMS 5.5-2 now...
6:29 a.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K
Greg,
Hey, that looks cool, where can I d/l a copy of the emulator?
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Elkin" <ClassicComputers(a)bouncy-castle.demon.co.uk>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:40 PM
Subject: SimH on Win2K
Hallo,
I've built SimH (v2.9-9, and just tried v2.9-10) using MinGW on my Win2K
box,
when I try to boot any attached disk devices (either
CDROM images or my
own
RZ23 dumped disks etc) I get the same error (shown
below). Any clues
please?
C:\Emuls\DEC>vax
VAX simulator V2.9-10
sim> load -r ka655.bin
sim> set rq0 ra92
sim> at rq0 netbsd.dsk
RQ: creating new file
sim> set rq1 cdrom
sim> at rq1 NetBSD_VAX_v1_5_2.iso
sim> b cpu
?[c
KA655-B V5.3, VMB 2.7
Performing normal system tests.
40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31..30..29..28..27..26..25..
24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09..
08..07..06..05..04..03..
Tests completed.
>>b dq1
(BOOT/R5:0 DQ1)
2..
?41 DEVASSIGN, DQ10
HALT instruction, PC: 00000C1A (MOVL (R11),SP)
sim>
thanks,
greg
6:37 a.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K
Curt Vendel wrote:
Hey, that looks cool, where can I d/l a copy of the
emulator?
http://simh.trailing-edge.com
-- greg's alter ego ;-)
6:53 a.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K
Curt Vendel wrote :
Hey, that looks cool, where can I d/l a copy of the
emulator?
Bob Supniks excellent emulator (VAX along with many PDPs and other systems)
from :
http://simh.trailing-edge.com
the command line build tools for Windows came from :
http://www.mingw.org/
(I used "Latest MinGW-1.0 Snapshot MinGW-1.0.1-20010726")
cheers,
greg
8:18 a.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K
Greg Elkin wrote:
Bob Supniks excellent emulator (VAX along with many
PDPs and other systems)
from :
http://simh.trailing-edge.com
the command line build tools for Windows came from :
http://www.mingw.org/
(I used "Latest MinGW-1.0 Snapshot MinGW-1.0.1-20010726")
Although I know Greg did not get this to work I compile SIMH quite
easily with Borland's BCC 5.5 complier available for free download from
Borlands (Inprise or is it back to Borland again?) site.
If you want to be bold, use the Intel compiler. It is freely distributed
for Linux systems and as a 30 day evaluation for Windows. SIMH really
buzzes when compiled with it.
-- hbp
10:04 a.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K
Hey Hans, can you give me a url to download & try
that please?
thanks,
greg
I don't remember the URL, however, there is a CD for both Linux and Windows
on the latest issue of the Linux Journal. I picked the magazine up for it,
and then found out it's also available for download. My problem is I've not
had time to mess with it.
Zane
3:52 p.m.
New subject: SimH on Win2K - intel compiler
Greg Elkin wrote:
HBP wrote
>use the Intel compiler. It is freely distributed for Linux systems
>and as a 30 day evaluation for Windows. SIMH really buzzes when
>compiled with it.
Hey Hans, can you give me a url to download & try
that please?
http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/
Should get you started.
-- hbp
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