See below. Please reply directly to Les if you can help.
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 07:07:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Les <el-supremo at archaeologist.com>
To: vcf at vintage.org
Subject: AST 6066d data restore disc
I'm looking for a data restore disc for a 1994 AST Advantage! 6066d desktop computer running Windows 3.1. Item details are:
AST Works Advantage! Data Disc 2.0 cd rom (1994) ID/PN 916049-001
I'd be most grateful for any help or advice available.
Many thanks,
Les
I will be taking my IBM I/O Selectric and the 360/30 emulator to VCF-GB
this weekend.
This time it's in Coalville, near Leicester:
http://www.silicondreams.org.uk/
You can see video of the Selectric running at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRdma6NINIw
The 360/30 is running a simple assembler program to print large letters
using a 6x8 matrix. You type in 4 short lines and it echoes them back
in the larger form.
The final printout can be seen at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ljw/9201494189/
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk
The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
I have a very nice Altair 8800b for sale. It includes the following S-100
boards:
MITS 8800B CPU BD REV 0
PCC TURNKEY MODULE
PCC S-100 INTERFACE
CEPC 4-SIO-1
The label on back reads:
PCC
Pertec Computer Corporation
Model No. 88-1250
Part No. 200351-05
Serial No. 300-000270
The front panel is in excellent condition. The rest of the case has some
scratches and peeling paint, but is otherwise in very good condition,
typical for its age.
Internally it is in excellent condition, very clean with all parts in
tact. I've never attempted to power up this unit but have no doubt that
it can easily be restored to functional condition.
You can see photos here:
http://vintagetech.com/photos/S-100/Altair%208800b%20%231/
I'm asking $1,200 or best offer.
Please contact me directly for more details.
Thanks!
--
Sellam Ismail VintageTech
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Most never accepted the validity of the concept.
"Just get an adequate computer. That's management's problem."
OK, another story. A friend of mine was a Physics student at
Rolla (University of MO sub-campus) and also very good at
programming/analysis. He had a roommate who was an ME student,
and just learning programming. He saw his professor fiddling
with one of those 15-tile puzzles, and said "Hey, I could
write a program to solve those". His prof said it would be a
good exercise, and gave him an account on the 370/168
at the main campus. He wrote it, and tried it, but it kept
running out of time. He assumed an infinite loop, and eventually
mentioned it to the Physics student. My friend sensed a
teachable moment and said, Hmm, you have 16 nested do loops
>from 1 to 16. Do you know how many total iterations that is?
The guy whips out his trusty HP45 and starts calculating.
My friend smiles, as he already knows that 16^^16 will not
be computable on the calculator. So, they trudge over to
the comp. Sci. building and he shows the guy the System/360
storage and timing estimates book, and they work out that
JUST the loops, themselves, will take something like
10 billion years to complete. He eventually chopped out
useless iterations and got a program that ran in a minute or
so.
So, the moral is that there are relatively modest problems
that can become TOTALLY un-computable with a poor
algorithm. No computer ever made could have finished
his poorly thought out program.
Jon
If you are in the Cleveland area, and are interested in old stuff, send me a
list, and I have a recycler who will let me know when they get something in.
They will not hold for more than 2 days before they shred. He does not want
lots of calls from different people, but if I send him a list, he will keep
an eye out for things, and let me know when they come in.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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Hi all,
I'm trying to identify the batch setup that I learned programming on.? It was the very first computer I ever used, at Memphis State University in the math department in 1977 or so.? The campus mainframe was a Xerox Sigma-9 time sharing system running CP-V.? There was a computer center in an admin building, and some satellite rooms around campus.? The Math department had a room full of ASR-33's (or ASR35's?), another room containing several Hazeltine 2000's and 1500's and two or three LA36's, and there was a batch room containing several keypunch machines (IBM?), and a batch setup consiting of a card reader the size of a deep freezer, and a page printer.? To run a job, the attendant would stick your fortran cards at the end of an "emulator deck", and run the whole thing through, and the program listing (if requested) and results would print out on the page printer.
Was there such a setup for the Sigma 9?? Or is it likely they had a whole batch minicomputer set up in that room?? I don't remember having to learn anything new about the FORTRAN IV compiler when we graduated to the interactive terminals later in the semester.? For what it's worth, I vaguely remember the hardware being painted brown, or some other earthy color, but then, that memory is nearly 40 years old.
I know it's an odd request, but nostalgia makes you wonder the strangest things.
Thanks,
Dave
I have a large qty (1 entire 20x20 foot room) of early Apple/Mac stuff that
needs to leave the warehouse. We really don't deal in Apple products, and I
have sat on these for the past 16 years, hoping someone would appreciate
them.
The are a few Apple II, LCII and LCIII, PowerPro, Mac Classic, Mac 128, Mac
256, lsome newer towers (still 16+ years old), lots of monitors (from the
old tilt-screen to 17" multimedia and tall word processing screens) and
all-in one machines, some lasers, some extra cards for the Apple IIs, floppy
drives (single and double), a little bit of game software, some manuals,
some boot disks, some utilities and word processing, Claris, over 70
keyboards, etc. Also lots of modems, adapters, cables, etc.
We are bringing in laptops by the truckload, and I REALLY need the space.
The first person to offer $2000 will receive nicely boxed and palletized
merchandise.
Some of the all-in-ones have cracked housings; if you don't want those, I
will take them the recycle center.
If nobody claims these this week, the whole lot is likely to get recycled.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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I sent the following to alt.sys.pdp11 just in case anyone could
use the information. If there is anything that is incorrect, please
advise. It is a summary of the information received from the
classiccmp list and John Wilson. There were no replies from
usenet, but someone might find the information useful and the
post will be archived in a different location.
Jerome Fine
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Just in case anyone is interested, the solution was provided on
the classiccmp list. The major problem was with respect to how
default parameters are handled in addition to a misunderstanding
with regard to line numbers which are invalid or out of range in
the Scrolling Region request.
<TOP> and <BOT> are replaced by decimal digits from "0"
to "9". <ESC> is replaced by the octal 33 character.
(a) If any parameter is omitted, a default is always supplied.
For the Scrolling Region request, the format is:
<ESC>[<TOP>;<BOT>r
where <TOP> is the higher (smaller) line number to be used
and <BOT> is the lower (larger) line number to be used. If
<TOP> is missing or is "0", then "1" is used instead. If <BOT>
is missing or is "0", the the line number for the bottom of the
screen is used instead. In addition, <BOT> must exceed
<TOP> by at least one. If <BOT> is not greater than <TOP>
by at least one OR <BOT> exceeds the number of lines for the
screen, the request is ignored.
(b) At least 3 characters, including leading zeros, "0", are
allowed for any parameter, and probably any reasonable
number of leading zeros are allowed in practice.
I have not, myself, verified the above information, but it has been
tested by a few other individuals and is probably reliable.
If anyone has read this far, then the solution seems quite obvious:
<ESC>[16r
can be used and the line at the bottom of the screen will be used
as the default. For a DEC VT100 with AVO, <BOT> will be
defaulted to "24". For any other DEC VT100 compatible terminal,
such as the VT420 and VT510 which support up to 48 lines, <BOT>
may be defaulted to "48" or line number 48 at the bottom of the
screen when the VT420 terminal is set to that many lines.
For Ersatz-11, I normally run in FULL SCREEN mode using the
DOS variant. My video card is then set for and used with a screen
of either 80 columns by 50 lines OR 132 columns by 44 lines.
<BOT> is then "50" for the former and "44" for the latter. The
Win32 variant of Ersatz-11 also supports up to 255 columns by
255 lines. Since my video card and monitor combination usefully
supports only up to 198 columns by 60 lines, my maximum initial
setting is: E11 /CONSIZE:124x60 or 124 columns by 60 lines.
When a WIDE screen is requested, the number of columns expands
to 198 columns by 60 lines (where 198.4 is truncated from 1.6 * 124).
In both cases, <BOT> is "60" or line number 60 at the bottom of the
emulated VT100 screen.
If anyone has any additional questions, please ask.
Jerome Fine
>Jerome H. Fine wrote:
> I have a simple request for anyone who is has a real DEC VT100
> or compatible terminal (VT100, VT220, VT320, VT420, VT510)
> and especially VT100 software emulations, either as standalone
> software or as part of a PDP-11 emulator such as Ersatz-11.
>
> In respect of the latter, I have been using the Ersatz-11 PDP-11
> emulator to support VT100 emulation with more than 24 lines
> for a few years. In particular, as part of the implementation,
> when the Range Escape Sequence is used to begin the Scrolling
> Region at a line less than 24 for the TOP and a line at the bottom
> of the screen for the BOTTOM, I use:
>
> <ESC>[16;255r
>
> to scroll between line 16 and the bottom of the screen. For
> real DEC VT100 terminals with the AVO option, there is
> ONLY one size for the number of lines, namely 24 lines.
>
> Since I can't ATTACH files to be sent to a newsgroup,
> below are two files which can be used to erase the screen,
> set the scrolling region to line 16 at the top and line 99 or line 255,
> respectively, at the bottom of the screen. If the any VT100
> (compatible) terminal or emulated VT100 terminal set for 24 lines
> is able to handle setting the scrolling region in this manner, each
> file with FIFTY lines should begin starting to display "Line 1 of File"
> of the file on line 12 of the "terminal" and "Line 2 of File" on line 16
> of the "terminal" the and end up showing approximately six lines of
> the file at the bottom of the screen as the previous lines of the file
> scroll off the TOP of the scrolling region (at line 16 of the terminal)
> with just "Line 1 of File" remaining on line 12 of the "terminal".
>
> I would very much appreciate learning the results of sending
> both files to a DEC (or emulated) VT100 terminal. If they act
> the same was as Ersatz-11, the results will be identical with using
> 24 in place of 99 or 255.
>
> Jerome Fine
>
> P.S. When the file is transferred to the system, replace <ESC>
> with octal 33!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KED can be used under RT-11.
> The user eliminates each <ESC> and enters TWO <ESC>
> characters instead. Alternatively, if you can remember the
> first line correctly, you can enter the complete file in about
> 2 minutes by duplicating (cut and paste) the other 49 lines.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> <ESC>2J<ESC>[12;1HLine 1 of File<ESC>[16;99r<ESC>[16;1H
> Line 2 of File
> [Snip]
> Line 50 of File
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> <ESC>2J<ESC>[12;1HLine 1 of File<ESC>[16;255r<ESC>[16;1H
> Line 2 of File
> [Snip]
> Line 50 of File
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
My wife and I were goofing off, looking for abandoned homes in the UK
that we could potentially squat in. [ please read that with some
sarcasm intended ]
Regardless, after lots of Google and such, we found the following on
an urban exploration forum.
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/mansions-manors-country-houses/81134-br…
I don't want to get into the merits of tresspassing, especially
because the poster says the property is "owned" and is being
redeveloped. However, I thought it was interesting...
The site was a telco exchange in the 1950s and has some teletypes and
other interesting things in the basement. It's possible that the owner
of the facility wants the stuff out of there. It has a true plug-board
for telco ops and other stuff I can't identify. It may be worth
investigating for someone in the UK.
--
-Jon
Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Richard L. Kremer
<Richard.L.Kremer at dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> An anthropologist friend of mine seeks to read a set of 1200+ IBM punch
> cards (80 cols), prepared in the1960s to code survey results. But we cannot
> find a working IBM punch card reader in New England.
>
> Would anyone know of an IBM data processing unit that could read these cards
> and convert their data into comupter files of numbers?
>
> Many thanks. Rich Kremer
A request on the rete mailing list
Dave Caroline
At 11:05 -0500 6/29/13, bear wrote:
>On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
>> Was the MO drive used on the NeXT cubes a standard 650MB unit, or
>>was there something special about it? (e.g. sector size, encoding,
>>format, etc.)?
>
>Not standard. The disks it uses are physically different from
>"standard" ones. They are physically the same as early WORM disks
>like the IBM 3363, though the media is different.
>
>The drive NeXT used was made by Canon, and is the same as the Canon
>DiskFile. However, you cannot use a Canon DiskFile to read NeXT
>cartridges because the low level format is unique to the NeXT.
>
>So if you want to read NeXT MOs, you need a NeXT.
Agreed with bear
>I have something like six units here, and none of them work.
>Including the one in my old cube I bought in '95 which worked when I
>bought it, continued working for many years, was possibly the last
>functioning NeXT MO in existence, and then just stopped while it was
>in storage. I have the idea it could be coaxed back into life
>somehow, but they are just about perfectly impossible to work on. If
>anybody has had any success repairing these, I am unaware of it. One
>guy says he's had success, but won't share information, so I am
>choosing to believe he's a liar.
Almost agreed with bear. This might be me, and if so, I'm
flaky, but was telling the truth as I knew it. However the MO drive
failed again shortly thereafter, so I gave up in frustration and
never reported what I'd done. Apologies if I left anyone hanging!
I have only one MO drive, so my statistics aren't as good as
his, but yeah, I don't know of any that are still working.
Mine worked for years, then quit working (more retries, then
infinite retries). I took it out, got it far enough open to get a
q-tip full of isopropanol to the lens, and cleaned the dust off the
lens and the slide rails for the carriage. This was a fiddly process,
involving de-mating connectors, switching back and forth between top
and bottom of the drive, and figuring out how to prop the drive up
with some parts hinged open. However I would not call it "perfectly
impossible" - I did it, which probably means Tony could do it with
the drive running and one hand tucked safely into his hip pocket.
The unit ran normally when I got it back together, but for
not more than a few months. I have not taken a second pass at it.
Dust was likely an issue with my machine, because it had been
running with the fan in the normal orientation (air comes in the
drive and out the back of the machine). Good for cooling, but if
there's any dust at all in the environment, it ends up forming
bunnies on the MO lens.
The fan is mechanically symmetrical enough that it's easy to
invert it to run "backward". Air comes in the fan, dust cakes on the
rest of the machine, and nothing settles in the MO drive. Good for
optics - but bad for cooling. On my 68040 cube, this led to very
occasional crashes due to SCSI system faults. Since they happened
with at least two different hard drives which were otherwise
faultless, I deduce it was something to do with the motherboard,
which was then getting the warmest air in the box blowing across it.
(The crashes happened only during my morning "clean out old .nfs
files" cron job, which did a "find / -name ....". I diagnosed them by
distributed.net log file messages.)
I put my fan back like it was, and the SCSI crashes stopped.
Dust was clearly not the *only* issue with my machine. I
surmise that it was exacerbating whatever slow degradation process
affects all of them, and I bought myself a few extra months with the
cleaning.
More details available if anybody really needs them; I still
have the drive and the rest of the system, and can repeat the
disassembly I think, but not just immediately - I'm using the machine
at the moment.
FWIW, MO drive retry errors hang the machine - no monitor
mode or good way to continue. The low-level drivers for the MO
presumably operate at high priority, and block interrupts. SCSI
problems are not so bad, which is yet another reason that if you have
a NeXT running on a SCSI drive, switching to MO is a downgrade. They
were a technology with an extremely high "cool" factor but a limited
timespan of cost-effectiveness.
>Good luck. You're going to need it. /@:
Agreed with bear on that one, too. I have not looked into
trying to find a replacement for the optical head. I suspect that
would be pretty tough.
At 18:23 -0500 6/30/13, <Dave R.> wrote:
>I believe there are issues with dead electrolytic capacitors among
>other things. I suggest not powering on a drive without disassembling
>and checking it first, though; I've heard of many cases where smoke
>comes out of the drive when powered on.
Checking/replacing all the caps would take a while. The
drives have a lot of parts. However this is as good an explanation as
any I've heard. FWIW, there was no smoke from mine, then or yet (it's
still powered, in my cube).
Sorry for slow response, hope this is at least some useful.
--
- Mark 210-379-4635
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Large Asteroids headed toward planets
inhabited by beings that don't have
technology adequate to stop them:
Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.
Pics are here
https://plus.google.com/photos/106111250846948401252/albums/5895759956977025
233?banner=pwa
Will the gent who wants these please call me? My emails to u keep bouncing
back, says email not requested by recipient.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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I seem to recall having a conversation on the list not too long ago
about the difficulty of converting NeXT mono video to VGA.
At first I had thought this might need something as sophisticated as
digital conversion, but somebody said it was only an electrical matter.
What's the deal? What needs to be done - anyone know?
I have a Cube with the fading type of NeXT monitor, you see...
thanks,
--Toby
Hi !
I need an help about a card I found in the 5363.
There's only a P/N, 92X7245.
A quick search on ebay gave poor results: IOP card.
It looked like a processor card: infact I found, under a heatsink, an
80286, 512MB of ram, ROM BIOS ...
Under OS/400, an IOP card is related to an embedded server, but under
SSP ?
It has only a DB-9 female connector, like a CGA or MDA video adapter,
but no provision for keyboard.
Any hint?
Got the following stuff that need homes
Brand New in Box Apple Keyboard II with cable $20 dollars
BackPack 5.25inch Parallel Port Floppy Drive- Missing PSU, Requires 12V
1.25AMP DC
HaBaDisk 800k Floppy Drive for Macintosh $20 dollars
Macintosh SE Logic Board with MacViking Video card- comes with all
cables and hardware to install into a Mac SE $40 dollars
Nice early 82 Apple IIe system with Monitor 2, 2 Matching Disk IIs,
Super Serial card and Microsoft Softcard Z80 Card $200
1 Early 83 Apple IIe, one broken key, works $25
1 Later //e Enhanced, Broken Delete Key otherwise works fine $25
I accept PayPal
Thanks
Steve
Someone has claimed the entire batch.
Thank you much for all the responses.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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When the sailor gets into a battle station situation he could take the
terminal with him for either armor, or to use the keyboard to bash
someones brains out, or strangle them with the cable.
Looks appropriate for the USS Iowa, or any of the 4 Iowa class ships.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/0161020.jpg
page of photos is at if you want to see more BB-61
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/61g.htm
Thanks
Jim
Since I support the CBM crowd, I've had more than a few people send me
comments over the past few years, asking when I might consider offering
a replacement power supply for the home computing machines (VIC-20, 64,
128, +4)
Initially, I resisted for liability reasons and certification costs.
But, I decided earlier this year to put off those questions for a bit
and just see what might be technically and economically possible.
I've chased a few ultimately fruitless options, and I thought I'd see if
some fellow soul on this list might have some ideas.
Obviously, the first thought was a complete custom supply. My interest
was never in power design, so I am ill-equipped (and uncertain of my
abilities) to design such an item myself. Thus, I started looking for a
manufacturer that could design one.
Absolute requirements:
5VDC at 4.3A.
9VAC at 9VA unregulated
To this I added my requirements:
The 5VDC be a switching PSU output
ISO C13 input power jack (so I can support many areas without building
custom power cords
115/230 switchable design (or two very similar designs that can handle
the 2 voltages)
My cost under USD$30.00 per unit.
Enclosed finished case, or be able to fit in a commonly available case
design.
Someone put me in touch with Stontronics overseas, which worked on an
initial quote. But, I think the C13 and 115/230 requirements scared
them off.
I solicited information from Bear Power Supplies in the US, but they did
not seem too keen on continuing the discussion, so I have nothing from them.
I've also tried overseas suppliers, but I have not yielded fruit yet.
I've asked all the PSU suppliers on globalsources.com and alibaba.com
I have struggled to find a custom PSU manufacturer that can handle a
suitable design.
Being frustrated with the direct approach, I thought I'd try a different
path, and find a 9VAC or 5VDC single output power supply. I found a
single output large amperage 5VDC supply, but then I got stumped on
finding a way to synthesize a 9VAC isolated output from the 5VDC. A
simplistic approach would involve creating a harsh +-9V square wave, but
it needs to be at least .5A (to run the cassette deck on the 64/128),
and I worry that the noise on a square wave @ 1A would wreck the audio
and video noise level in the machine, which is not the best to start
with. Even ignoring that, I need to double or quadruple the voltage to
get the 18V rail to rail voltages I need.
On the 9VAC front, I had little luck finding a suitable 9VAC supply that
is 45VA or 63VA to support a 5VDC at 5A draw while leaving enough for the
5A 5VDC output. As well, I am not sure I am equipped to design a
switching 5V PSU from a 9VAC source.
With the old power bricks getting more brittle and prone to failure each
day, I feel some sense of urgency to find some solution for folks.
For liability reasons and because 5VDC is the more important voltage in
the units, I myself lean towards a small box that turns 5VDC into 5VDC
and 9VAC, but designing a voltage doubler/sine wave generator/isolation
transformer solution is far beyond my comfort zone. If this is not a
complicated task, I am wondering if someone on-list is up for a small
freelancing effort to design such a unit. It needs to contend with the
issues outlined in this PDF (http://www.ide64.org/power_des.pdf) in that
the noted design won't work as is since I think people need to be free
to use the power switch on their machine.
There might not be a reasonable solution, but I thought I'd share in
case I am missing an option.
Jim
--
Jim Brain
brain at jbrain.comwww.jbrain.com
I dismantled my MO drive years ago and photographed it. After you take it
apart for the first time you learn that the top and bottom covers can pivot
and the drive becomes more easier to work on. I have it all in my
Photobucket Album
(http://s11.photobucket.com/user/ballsandy/library/Computer%20related/NeXT%2
0MO?sort=3&page=1)
I was /one of/ the first to notice the leaking caps. It stemmed from my
drive spinning uncontrollably and was assumed that the caps on the motor
control had gone. This was just before we began to realize that the reason
that systems like the Macintosh Portable and the IIci weere dropping like
flies was because the surface mount capacitors and reached a point in their
life where they had begun to leak. We now know that just because one might
of failed, they all probably have and they will do some REALLY weird things
as they die. The small radials that are used on the motor control are
present elsewhere on the drive as well. I have plenty of reason and
speculation that these are what has caused the massive 99% failure rate of
the MO drives and that a full replacement will bring back the drives.
As Mr. Strickland said the SCSI bridge causes translation problems but other
than that, the Canofile and the two OEM variants made by Mass Microsystems
and some other company for the Mac market are otherwise identical.
DEC LNO3, qty 2
Genicom 7170
HPII
HPIII
HPIV
HPVI
Okidata 810 and similar
Brother HL10h
Various others
Probably 3-4 pallets total. None tested recently, some may be missing
parts, all will probably need new pickup rollers after sitting so long.
Somebody make offer, or by Thurday these go to scrapper.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
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Was the MO drive used on the NeXT cubes a standard 650MB unit, or was
there something special about it? (e.g. sector size, encoding, format,
etc.)?
Anyone have an extra to spare?
--Chuck