In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11
If you are not receiving this paragraph as part of a group
message, then you are not on my list of individuals who may
wish to receive their own copies of the CDs. In that case,
please reply so that you can be placed on my list when I send
out an e-mail with my address.
The first batch of the 3 CDs were sent out and have
been received. Although there were not a large number
of people who were interested, at least a few more people
now have copies.
The CDs were produced from images obtained from
the following two sites:
ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/
and
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/
Since there might be a number of individuals who can't
download at a reasonable speed (even with DSL it takes
about 3 hours each at about 30 KBytes per second as
compared with about 3 KBytes per second on a dial up line),
I am prepared to make additional copies (Tim Shoppa
no longer seems to have the time to do so) and make
them available at my cost (for media, label, envelope
and shipping carton plus postage to the US) and make
them available at my cost of $ 5 / $ 9 / $ 12 for
1 / 2 / 3 CDs. If you prefer to have me use Memorex
Black brand CDs which I have been told last about
twice as long, the cost will be $ 1 more per CD. Note
that all the prices are in US dollars for destinations in
the US and postage from Canada. If you are in a
different country, the postage will be different. All
funds received will be considered to be a gift.
Note that the images at Tim's site are ".bz2" files while
the images at classiccmp are ".gz" images. For myself
(Windows 98 and Netscape 4.78) DOES NOT WORK
with the ".gz" images (since the file is automatically
expanded - and the result is incorrect), but Carlos Murillo
sent me a Windows 98 version of wget which does work,
I suppose on any file.
If you need help and are running Windows 98 or a
compatible OS, I can send you copies of both "bzip2.exe"
and "MD5.exe", but not for others OSs. For other OSs
(and Windows 98) for bzip2 programs, see:
http://sources.redhat.com/bzip2/
and click on either:
PC, Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP
PC, Windows 95/98/NT/2000.
for bzip2.exe - I was advised to use the second older
version and did - it worked fine under Windows 98.
For MD5 programs, see either:
ftp://ftp.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/crypto/md5/http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/
I obtained my MD5 programs at the first site.
By the way, for myself, I would VERY much appreciate
being in touch with all individuals who have a copy of the
RT-11 Freeware CD V2.0 so that we might exchange
information about RT-11. Tim Shoppa felt that he might
be violating privacy concerns if he made the names, of those
who ordered the CD, available. I don't see it that way, so
if you want your name to be known along with the other
individuals (or not as the case may be - i.e. restrict that
you have a copy of the RT-11 CD to ONLY specified
individuals such as possibly just myself) so that you can
receive interesting information about new developments
in RT-11 and the status of the operating system, then
PLEASE contact me so that we can share information.
Also state if you want to be known to the entire group
of just to specified individuals such as myself.
Some of you have already expressed an interest in the CDs.
I hope that I have sent a personal copy of this post. If
you sent a request for my snail mail address and I somehow
missed you, please send me your request again.
I am now ready to burn a second batch of the CDs. If
you wish to have a set, please reply and I will send you
my snail mail address if you are interested.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
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----- Original Message -----
From: "bolt thrower" <tucansam(a)whodis.org>
Newsgroups:
comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.workstati
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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: Tell your friends: Free hardware
> i have a bunch of free sun, sgi, cisco, and other gear that i need to get
> rid of. you have to come get it. i'm not going to reserve anything, you
> show up here first, you get to take whatever you want. bring a truck --
> hell, bring two! i am in petaluma, california, 70 minutes north of san
> fran, in sonoma county. i'm home in the evenings. next sunday, anything
> that is left is going to the dump, so please, PLEASE come and take this
> stuff away.
>
> * one sgi 20" monitor, granite, with cable and remote, works perfectly. i
> was using it on my indigo. i am keeping my indigo boxed up for use later,
> but can't really see keeping this giant monitor around.
>
> * one same as above with a little blur in one of the corners. i don't
> know which of the two monitors it is (i am dumb and didn't mark the bad
> one) and i don't have an sgi readily available to test it. come and take
> your chances, or just grab both. please?
>
> * one sun 16" monitor with cable. had it on my ultra2. works fine. a
> little small by today's standards, and just a tad on the dim side, works
> great.
>
> * sun a1000 disk array. with three trays, a gang of 2gb disks in sleds,
> some extra controller parts, some cables, and whatever else i can come up
> with. it powers up. lots of drives spin and it sounds cool. that's all
> i know.
>
> * a bunch of SPARC stuff. keyboards, mice, whatever. I have a SPARCcard
> somewhere. I'm not sure if it works, but it sure looks cool. ome and
> get it and hang it in your cube. you boss will give you a raise for being
> such a geek.
>
> * some token ring and fddi stuff. concentrators and cables and nics and
> what not.
>
> * whatever ethernet stuff i can find (little netgear type hubs, swithces,
> blah blah)
>
> i have a whole closet full of stuff that i am cleaning out so i may post a
> follow up to this message if i find more big stuff. otherwise basically
> you can expect to find a large pile of crap sitting in the middle of my
> living room, and you and some pals can come and get whatever you want.
> the more you take the happier you'll be, i promise. if you come and take
> _all_ of it, you will be destined to live a long life, and beautiful women
> will want to be with you.
>
> its all free, but if you feel compelled to give me something in return, i
> am looking for reloading equipment and 9mm and .40 S&W ammo. beer is
> always good, too.
>
> yay!
>
> email me at jmw _at_ panix _dot_ com to arrange for you to come up here.
> if you don't live in the bay area but know someone who does, send this to
> them, ok?
>
> thanks.
I have a Intel RMX 330 that was working last I ran it (about 1992). I also have a 380 in two cabinets that worked also. I just moved my stuff in the storage locker and ran across them. I have docs and maybe disks. I also have lots of parts for 310s.
Any suggestions for starting up the 3450 Priam Hard drives that haven't run in 10 years. I would love to fire both the 330 and the 380 up. They are fully equiped. I think the 380 has a 80286 Multibus card in it.
Not sure what format the floppys are. I will see if I can find the information.
Who else in the group is into Multibus I?
Paxton
Astoria, Oregon
USA
At 12:38 PM 12/1/02 -0500, Pat wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote:
>
>> Hmm, my Zenith XT wasn't as wide as an IBM XT but was taller. I
>> wouldn't compare it to an AT, although the later 386 Zeniths I saw had a
>> csse comparable in size to IBM AT. It was the later 386's that were
>> supposed to be able to fall off of a moving truck, as I was told.
>>
>> My Zenith XT has 3 drive bays, one on top of the other. I can't tell if
>> Sarks computer does or not.
>
>Never mind, you're right. I've only seen one with a 'narrow but tall'
>case before, and it was laying in pieces at the time.
>
>> >
>> > Of course, there are also newer machines with passive backplanes, I think
>> > JDR microdevices has sold 'the parts' for ISA and PCI (PIC/MG?) passive
>> > backplane machines.
>>
>> Do you mean those rack mount multiple computers in one case type things?
>
>No, just a single ISA or PCI backplane (or both) that had a single
>processor card and several slots for I/O cards. I'm not sure if JDR still
>carries the, I haven't seen their catalog in at least 5 years.
Yes, you could mount more than one system in those cases. I had about 30 Advantech rackmount systems that had 15(?) slot backplanes and the backplanes were divided into two sections. You could run a separate CPU and I/O cards in each section. The power supply was common as I recall. Several of these system had HP-IB cards and each computer was linked to the other one in the same case by HP-IB!
Joe
All items $1.00 plus shipping unless otherwise specified.
-Aldus Photostlyer Special Edition 2.0 for Windows (on 3.5" floppies)
-Risk World Conquest Game (like the board game) for the IBM PC, XT, AT
(on 5.25" floppy with a copy on 1.44)
-PW2 Unisys Multiple Port Board, has two 16C452 serial ports and 1
parallel port, with driver disk, cable, and manual
-Diamond SpeedStar Pro VLB
-3Com Etherlink III 3C509TP (ISA)
-Gateway ISA video card with docs and drivers (5.25" HD), ATI Ultra/A,
ATI 38800-1
-Digi AccelePort 16-bit ISA dual serial port board 16C650 uarts, may not
be function, with docs
-486 AT motherboard model 486-PVT, I think it is a FIC, 7 slots, 2 with
VLB extensions, socket 3
-generic PC plastic adjustable sidestand
-1/2 a check box full of XT type memory
-13 CD/DVD/etc. jewl cases (the kind that break easily)
-decently built 5.25" bay to 3.5" floppy converter from old Gateway
386..... much better than the little flimsy things at the computer shows.
-Dual EISA ISA (takes two slot) video card from Matrox, video out is
13w3, video in is db9. Matrox doesn't know what I have......
"Impress/Ultra", doesn't match any name on there web site exactly, and
doesn't match description on the "Impress". It is very impressive
looking :-) I do have one lead on drivers for it, but I don't have an
EISA system anymore, to try it. $5
-Teac 32x cd-rom model CD-532-E (IDE, barely used) $15
-"The Longest Day" on RCA Selectavision Video Disk (CED) (2 disk set)
-"Tora Tora Tora" on RCA Selectavision Video Disk (CED) (2 disk set)
-Paradise/WD 16 bit or 8 bit ISA 256K VGA card
-Alaska by James A. Michener, hard cover, a bit musty smelling, but not
too bad.
-Compaq AGP 3DFX card
-IBM XT motherboard, supposed to be last bios revison, and was purchased
by me as such. $10
For pick up only:
-large AT server case built by Tandy, for Grid, for the Government.
This case will hold a fullsize AT MB without it being underneath any
drive bays or the power supply. Power supply has temp sensor and will
adjust fan speed. Many drive bays. Very Nice case, I just don't need
it anymore. Originally housed a EISA bussed 486. $10
Please reply off list
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Hi.
I got this Q/UniBus board set:
http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/qbus_1.jpg (105 kB)
http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/qbus_2.jpg (128 kB)
The first is the top card (towards CPU). I think it is QBus, as I got it
together with some other QBus / MicroVAX stuff.
On these cards are:
lots of TTL ICs and PALs
4 x TS2901 (=AMD 2901 bit slice?)
1 x 2910
1 x DEC 010B 19-14038 I 8415 (The DIP 20 with golden heat spreader)
10 x AM27S35 (Microcode PROM?)
2 x Harris D1-15530-9
2 x "Transceiver"
1 x DC/DC converter.
2 x 82S09N 8039
2 x V61C16P16
1 x 10 pin IDC connector (upper left on bottom card)
There is a cabinet kit with two BNC connectos and two blue koax cables,
labled A and B that connects to the 10 pin IDC connector. The two cards
are interconnected with two 40 pin ribbon cables.
This numbers are on the PCB:
5079322-001E
5079312-001F
5079310-001
5079320-001
What is this?
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
Ben wrote:
> > *If the answer is 'the couch' then you've lost it.
> I thought 'the wife' would be when you lost it.
Usually, getting rid of the wife doesn't make a lot of room for
new machines. There _is_, however, a good chance of ending up
with more cash to spend on 'em... :)
--fred (doing only DEC PDP-11/VAX/Networking himself..)
John Allain wrote:
> And, ultimately 'what will I have to throw out to keep it?'*
> ...
> *If the answer is 'the couch' then you've lost it.
I know several people who seem to have no problem dropping furniture
in favor of Good Iron, _provided_ the iron looks or smells good enough
for a livingroom or bedroom :)
(no, not me... I prefer the soft couch.. ;-)
--f
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote:
> I am at a point where I am thinking about divesting myself of the
> majority of my computer collection.
Good luck! I'm not aware of anyone successfully doing this. But in weaker
moments, I've considered it. Here's my choice(s)
1) Find a worthy recipient willing to take it *all*. Keep a modern machine
only, make a clean break. Farewell.
2) Pick the minimum combination of machines that will do the things you
*need* to do, then get rid of the rest. This may default to option 1). (It
wouldn't in my case - the Mac Plus still has many games I consider
indispensable, and the NeXT is my only Mathematica platform (and is thus
heavily used at work). But I couldn't justify keeping my Rainbow, for
example.)
3) Pick the minimum combination of machines that'll still do all or most of
the things your current collection will do. Rainbow is good here, because
it'll do both CP/M and DOS; Could argue that a NeXT with SoftWindows and
Daydream covers three operating systems (Mac, Win, Unix) as well as
NeXTStep. For Macs, a II and a G4, will probably run all of your Mac
software, etc.
4) Take two aspirin and wait for the aberration (getting out of classic
collecting) to pass. You'll feel horrible if you give it all away and then
start trying to re-assemble a collection.
- Mark
There used to be a comprehensive timeline of computers available online,
but I have been unable to find it. It might have been put out by Hans
Pufal, but I'm not sure. Anyone have a link to such a list?
>Oops-- You're right, of course. Can't wait to get 'em spinning...
>Can the OpenVMS page file (or whatever it's called) span disks?
No, but you can create multiple page files (up to 4 IIRC) so
you can spread stuff around that way.
Antonio
>I ran across an old XT clone with bus board in it instead of a true
>motherboard. I have never seen an IBM PC compatible computer like this
>before. Is this common?
The first 286 and 386 systems of the Dutch manufacturer Tulip were built
with this design (resp. AT Compact and AT 386).
In the AT 386 the processor was on one board, and the memory on another.
They had special connectors at the top side of the boards to connect the CPU
board to the (one or two) memory boards.
Freek.
Hi guys!,
Go easy on me, I'm new here and don't know the ropes yet :S
I have an old Intel RMX Sys86/330 system (white cabinet)which I'd got
working a few years back, but has fallen over again.
All I'm really interested in is getting the data (mostly ASM source)on the
hard drive onto a PC. I also have boxes full (heaps!) of 8" floppies for
this system that I'd like to get the data off and over to a PC.
I've searched classiccmp archives and google and can't find quite what I'm
after, though I did find ppl trying to run 3.5" and 5.25" fdd's on 8"
systems.
What I'd like to be able to do is connect my 8" HDD to a PC and D/L all the
data directly - likewise with the 8" FDD. Am I wasting my time, or is this
possible? Making interfaces / electronics is no problem, and I have all the
gear like CRO, logic probe, etc.
Hard drive is -
Priam Model 3450-10
8" HDD
Floppy disk drive is -
Mitsubishi Model M2894-63D June 83
8" FDD
I believe this is DSDD based on some of the disks I have.
Any help would be appreciated
Regards
Grant Mc :o)
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Free plus shipping:
- Moon Patrol for the IBM PC in box
- Electronics Arts Chessmaster 2000 for the Apple // series
- Sublogic Flight Simulater II for the Apple // series
- Magic Windows //e some non-original disks, with manual
- AC 120mm 10 blade fan (loud and vibrates a bit too much for solid
mounting I think, real nice fan though)
Forsale, plus shipping:
- Unopened NIB Adaptec SCSI channel AHA-1640 Microchannel (MCA) adapter
$10
- 2 fan trays for the R400X DEC expansion chassis with fans
$15 for both
- SCO Open Desktop 2.0.0 on Qic tape with license certificate
$5
Please reply off list
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Push the cover latches the other way from opening the top. This unlatches the keyboard which is hinged at the back and folds up from the front. The hard drive, battery and CD reside there. Pull the HD up from the back by the little wire handle.
Usually you can replace the HD in the HD carrier.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
Just picked up a R400X loaded with RF-72s (Thanks, Ethan!), includes a
terminator but no cable. :( I want to plug it in to my VAX 4000 200, since
that's the only VAX I have with DSSI. A DEC part number that starts with
BC21M- is what I need, if anyone has a spare they'd like to part with.
Thanks!
Bob
On Nov 30, 17:57, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
> > > I just wish the internet was around 10 years ago.
> >
> > Fortunately, it was.
> Well, yes, but not everywhere, and _certainly_ not for everyone.
By the late '80's it covered most of Western Europe and the States
including non-academic sites. CIX (Compulink Information Exchange) was
founded in 1987, and Demon Internet in June 1992, both offering public
services in the UK. Demon charged UKP10/month for dialup access.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi all,
I have been checking some dates, and I'm quite sure that someone on
this list isn't for real, but a spam-address-collector instead. If I
post something on this list, I get spam pretty soon thereafter. And
yes, I varied my sender address (a little), and it takes over that
spelling.
Can the ListMaster check on this, possibly by having us all do a
manual "yes, I am here" reply or somesuch?
Thanks,
Fred
I have one that's not working and that I haven't had time to fix. They also show up on E-bay periodicly, in fact, I think one was on there just recently. I MAY have a manual for it, I'll have to look.
Joe
At 09:03 PM 11/30/02 +0100, you wrote:
>I am looking for an old Intel unit, the IUP 200/201 universal prom
>programmer, with software, and information how to use. I have the IUP-F87/51
>module and userguide, and a folder of the IUP-200/201 but not the programmer
>it self.
>
>Gijs Meirmans
>The Netherlands
>
>
Does anyone have manuals for the MultiTech Microprofessor MPF-1B? This is a
Z-80 single board computer with a keypad and six 7-segment LEDs for the
display. I picked one up as my first Z-80 system to mess around with. I
dumped the EPROM image and have started to unassemble it, but of course it
would be quicker to just read the monitor source if someone has a copy of
the monitor listing manual. I suppose I would learn more figuring out how
it works on my on than by reading the manuals.
I did some web searching and couldn't find manuals anywhere, but apparently
these are still being made today by a UK company that acquired the rights to
the design.
http://www.flite.co.uk/micros/mpf-1b.html
Actually what I really have is an E&L Insturments FOX MT-80Z which is a
MPF-1B grafted to an expansion board with a prototype area. I can't find
any docs on the web for those either.
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On Nov 30, 10:34, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> 10 years ago, I was doing Usenet and email through my Amiga (with two
> ST225s and a PC-XT disk controller!) with UUCP. I couldn't do ftp
> and telnet and cool stuff like that, but I could at least get a few
> newsgroups like comp.sources.amiga and rec.humor.funny delivered to my
> door.
>
> 2400 bps, 20 MB news spool! Those were the days. Not.
Ten years ago, I was still relying on bulletin boards most of the time. I
well remember using the dialup provided by Lancaster University (what was
HENSA and is now the UK Mirror service), and realising that some
distribution I needed was going to take several hours to download.
Luckily, I had a friend at York who could use FTP over a JANET link :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 30, 19:31, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
> For regular people, I doubt one could get a decent and affordable conn in
> 1992 in the UK, Pete. Thats why Cliff started doing UUCP first :)
But you *could* -- that was my point. In 1992, Demon made that possible
with dialup IP (not UUCP), and it grew very quickly, from an initial base
of 200 users. At least one of my friends had an account back then -- I
know, because I used it. And by 1994 when I started at York University,
Demon Internet was well enough established that several students had dialup
accounts, and other companies had followed Demon's lead and produced a very
competitive market.
CIX did it before that, though it was restricted, as you suggest. And I'm
not sure when they moved from UUCP to whatever else they did. The company
I worked for at the time had .co.uk accounts in 1989 or 1990 (but I don't
know who the provider was).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I have a Tricom Custodian II Network Security System (dialback system)
that needs a good home. The system has redundant power supplies, one
Supervisory Module and four Line Modules to give dialback on eight
lines. Cables and manual included.
Available for shipping costs only, or delivered for a couple of pints if
you are local to me (East Berkshire).
Cheers,
Dave.