30 Nov
2002
30 Nov
'02
6:56 a.m.
Hi guys!,
Go easy on me, I'm new here and don't know the ropes yet :S
I have an old Intel RMX Sys86/330 system (white cabinet)which I'd got
working a few years back, but has fallen over again.
All I'm really interested in is getting the data (mostly ASM source)on the
hard drive onto a PC. I also have boxes full (heaps!) of 8" floppies for
this system that I'd like to get the data off and over to a PC.
I've searched classiccmp archives and google and can't find quite what I'm
after, though I did find ppl trying to run 3.5" and 5.25" fdd's on 8"
systems.
What I'd like to be able to do is connect my 8" HDD to a PC and D/L all the
data directly - likewise with the 8" FDD. Am I wasting my time, or is this
possible? Making interfaces / electronics is no problem, and I have all the
gear like CRO, logic probe, etc.
Hard drive is -
Priam Model 3450-10
8" HDD
Floppy disk drive is -
Mitsubishi Model M2894-63D June 83
8" FDD
I believe this is DSDD based on some of the disks I have.
Any help would be appreciated
Regards
Grant Mc :o)
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10:58 a.m.
New subject: Intel RMX 86/330 system Re: 8" Hard drive on PC
At 03:45 PM 11/30/02 +1100, you wrote:
Hi guys!,
Go easy on me, I'm new here and don't know the ropes yet :S
I have an old Intel RMX Sys86/330 system (white cabinet)which I'd got
working a few years back, but has fallen over again.
Holy Shit! I just scrapped four of those things. I bought them (minus hard drives :-(
but could never find any info, docs or software for them so I finally gave up and stripped
them and saved the cards for my other Multibus systems.
All I'm really interested in is getting the data (mostly ASM source)on the
hard drive onto a PC. I also have boxes full (heaps!) of 8" floppies for
this system that I'd like to get the data off and over to a PC.
I've searched classiccmp archives and google and can't find quite what I'm
after, though I did find ppl trying to run 3.5" and 5.25" fdd's on 8"
systems.
What I'd like to be able to do is connect my 8" HDD to a PC and D/L all the
data directly - likewise with the 8" FDD. Am I wasting my time, or is this
possible? Making interfaces / electronics is no problem, and I have all the
gear like CRO, logic probe, etc.
What kind of format are the disks? Intel used a odd double density format on their MDS
machines and NOTHING else will read them. I and several others on this list have working
MDSs that should be able to read the disks if they in the MDS single or double density
format but the 86/330 is a lot newer and may use a more modern format.
Hard drive is -
Priam Model 3450-10
8" HDD
Floppy disk drive is -
Mitsubishi Model M2894-63D June 83
8" FDD
The ones that I stripped all used Shugart drives. IIRC they were 801s.
Joe
I believe this is DSDD based on some of the disks I
have.
Any help would be appreciated
Regards
Grant Mc :o)
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5:09 p.m.
New subject: Intel RMX 86/330 system Re: 8\" Hard drive on PC
At 03:45 PM 11/30/02 +1100, you wrote:
Holy Shit! I just scrapped four of those things. I
bought them (minus hard drives :-( but could never find any info, docs or software for
them so I finally gave up and stripped them and saved the cards for my other Multibus
systems.
Sounds like you have the parts he needs to get his system going again :)
11:27 p.m.
New subject: Intel RMX 86/330 system Re: 8\" Hard drive on PC
At 11:12 PM 11/30/02 -800, you wrote:
Very possibly. One problem with these is that they have tons of jumpers on them and I
have absolutely no docs for them. That's only one of the reasons that I gave up on the
computers.
Joe
At 03:45 PM
11/30/02 +1100, you wrote:
Holy Shit! I just scrapped four of those
things. I bought them (minus hard drives :-( but could never find any info, docs or
software for them so I finally gave up and stripped them and saved the cards for my other
Multibus systems.
Sounds like you have the parts he needs to get his system going again :)
5:11 p.m.
New subject: Intel RMX 86/330 system Re: 8\" Hard drive on PC
At 03:45 PM 11/30/02 +1100, you wrote:
Holy Shit! I just scrapped four of those things. I
bought them (minus hard drives :-( but could never find any info, docs or software for
them so I finally gave up and stripped them and saved the cards for my other Multibus
systems.
Sounds like you have the parts he needs to get his system going again :)
6:12 p.m.
New subject: 8' Hard drive on PC
I have an old Intel RMX Sys86/330 system (white
cabinet)which I'd got
working a few years back, but has fallen over again.
All I'm really interested in is getting the data (mostly ASM source)on
the hard drive onto a PC. I also have boxes full (heaps!) of 8"
floppies for this system that I'd like to get the data off and over to
a PC.
What I'd like to be able to do is connect my 8" HDD to a PC and D/L all
the data directly - likewise with the 8" FDD. Am I wasting my time, or
is this possible? Making interfaces / electronics is no problem, and I
have all the gear like CRO, logic probe, etc.
To read those diskettes, get an FDADAP card from Dbit, www.dbit.com.
That will let you cable up the 8" drive to the floppy controller in
your PC.
The hard drive is *much* more problematic. There isn't any way
to hook it up to any sort of normal PC hard disk controller.
Note that a PC disk controller can NOT read double-density floppies
from Intel development systems (Series II/III MDS, or
MDS-800).
The double density format Intel used on their development systems is not
MFM, but rather M2FM. Normal floppy controllers can't read it.
Best regards,
Eric
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