On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Jochen Kunz wrote: It is fairly easy to incorporate operational VAXen as furniture. The deskside servers in particular work very well as end tables for sofas and chairs. Some examples of these being the MicroVAX-II in BA123, the MicroVAX 3600 in BA213. I've had several scattered about the house at various times and they blend in fairly unobtrusively. The casual vistor to my home will never even realize they're computers. However, most people did tend to notice the large rackmount MicroVAX-II in the kitchen were there should've been a refridgerator. At one point I remember discussing the idea of arranging four MicroVAX-IIs in BA23 enclosures to act as supports for boxsprings and a matress to make a bed. The two configurations considered were along the lines of the following (imagine you're viewing the bed from top down through a transparent mattress, the diagonal segments represent the MicroVAX-IIs.) A B ------ ------ |/ \| |\ /| | | or | | |\ /| |/ \| ------ ------ For stability and aesthetics, configuration "B" seemed like it would be the best choice. The front panels would be facing outward with the power source(s) located in the center of the space beneath the bed. Now... given the notoriety of the faulty power harnesses present in the earlier BA23 boxes, the safety is a bit suspect. It would probably be wiser to use the sturdier BA213 based systems, or at least I'd recommend mounting a smoke detector on the box springs. -brian.