From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
Subject: Re: place your bets
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2007, Chris M wrote:
> For fun, how's about we create a list of units that
> had 8" drives. Off the top of my head:
<snippage>
Cromemco CDOS
Cromemco Z2 (Micah)
....
There are a lot more.
..........
------------------------------
AFAIK 8" drives for the Z2 were all third-party; however, the
System 3 and 300 were stock 8" drive systems, first the dual
Persci's and later Tandon TM 848's.
mike
This is on-topic if you think the HP9830 is a computer :-)
I'v been thinking about the internal cassette tape drive of that machine,
with particular refeerence to being able to read/write the tapes in some
other machine. By chance I was looking at the technical manual for the
Racal Thermionic (the company name, it doesn't use valves!) Digideck P72.
This unit has obvious similarites to internal tape drive on the HP9830,
in fact some mechanical parts will interchange between the 2 units.
Anyway, it appears the data format is very similar too.
There are 2 tracks on the tape. A pules on one track is a '0'. A pulse on
the other track is a '1'. And a pules on both tracks together is a marker.
The format of a byte on the taoe is
M b b b b f b b b b M
Where 'M' is a marker (and both markers are part of a given byte, by
default, therefrore, there are 2 markers between the data bits of
adjacent bytes on the tape), 'b' is a bit of the data byte and 'f' is a
flag bit. The flag bit, being in the middle, appears in the same position
in the serial-parallel conversion shift register no matter wheter the
tape is moving forwards or backwards. I think HP used it to identify the
bytes in the fiule header or something.
It's not chear whether HP record 2 markers between each byte, or just
one. But the Digideck can do either.
Anyway, the Racal manual refers to this as 'B.M.S. format'. Has anyone
heard of this? A google search doesn't find anyhting that looks relevant.
-tony
>From time to time I get asked about the Teletype ASR33 Parts List (much
harder to find than the other 2 volumes of the maintenance manual) and
the service documentation for the Facit 4070 paper tape punch (which was
used by just about all computer manuafacturers in the early 1970s...)
I was poking around on www.hpmuseum.net and _both_ are on that site. The
trick is that :
HP2752A == ASR33
and
HP2895A == Facit 4070 with HP modifications (an extra interface PCB, etc)
In the fromer case the 3 volumes of the Teletype docs are available to
download separately (the HP manual just gives the modifications to make
it HP-compatible, and the schematics), tin the latter case there is one
manual, most of which is the Facit service docs and parts lists.
-tony
> Al Kossow wrote:
> > > I have see some disk drives on your homepage and want to ask you if
> > > sale the magnetic and coils from the old diskdrives?
> >
> > no
>
> Hear hear!!
>
> Peace... Sridhar
>
-- html links to eBay auctions clipped.
"magnetic and coils from the old diskdrives" aren't what you'll find
in commodity discs today. I assume he's asking about linear motors
>from large drives, circa '85 and earlier, which have mostly gone into
landfills.
A linear motor from an early 80's drive is on the order of 4" x 8" with
a pretty massive casting.
>
>Subject: Re: place your bets
> From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com>
> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:08:57 -0800 (PST)
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
>Are there ANY 30 year old computer companies that didn't?
>(not counting "consumer electronics" companies :)
>
Apple! While there were add on 8" drives Apple started with 5.25.
I'm sure there are others.
Allison
A local Art museum here in the Houston area is putting on a Geek Art showing
in August and connected me for ideas and possible help. Is there anyone on
the list living in this area that may have some computer generated art or
any art that would be willing to loan out for the show? Contact me off list
if you like to help out. Any suggests from the list on what you would like
to see in a geek art show let me know also.
Thanks for your time,
John Keys
Apologies for being off-topic. Please reply to me directly, and not the
list.
I've got an ATI Rage 128 GL 16MB PCI video card from a B&W Mac G3. I
put it in my Dell Precision 530 workstation, CentOS 4.4 Linux recognizes
it, but no video comes out. Not even when I tell the BIOS to use that
instead of the AGP card.
Looks like I need to change the firmware from the Mac version to PC.
Searching on Google so far hasn't turned up anything. Anybody know where
to look? Or does anyone have a comparable video card for trade/gift?
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With that work done, it may be practical to boot your HP over a serial port
at a reasonable
speed, but loading a large ABS file this way can take a very long time (as
things are).
I generally don't recommend the serial boot method due to its poor
performance.
Then again, I think its nothing to throw together a PIC and some I2C eeprom
and build
little paper tape reader and punch emulators, and I can burn copies of any
loader rom
you wish.
I found that serial booting the system to be the easiest way to get started. I don't recall which one but, one of the loader ROMS will work with the "high speed serial" card and read data off a serial link. There's no handshaking or error correction but, with a short RS232 link, passing data is not a problem. The ABS data format does provide checksum error detection so data errors will be detected.
On many occasions, I have loaded HPBASIC and other programs over a serial link with absolutely no problem. The advantage to the serial link is that the only hardware required is a RS232 serial cable. Admittedly, it is not as fast as a parallel link but, who cares ;-)
I had to write a PERL script to format the data before passing it to the 1000 but, that was fairly trivial.
SeeYa, SteveRob
Hi all, this is probably the shortest time I've owned a machine. Bought
just a few months ago as a "project" I now have it to offer again. I
simply don't have the skill to get this running. I've also got too many
other projects :)
It's ex Salford Uni Prime 2550. Comes with 2 disk drives, 1 tape drive,
3 boxes of manuals, 2 boxes of tapes, 4 5.25" floppy drives and a bunch
of terminal lines.
Pictures (including all the manual covers) are here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17208732 at N00/
Located in Southampton near M27 J7. It's yours for the taking. I'd like
it to go to a genuine collector but will consider any and all interest!
I can hang on to it for a few weeks but it's just taking up valuable
space right now. If there's no interest in the entire system then I may
part out boards, manuals, etc.
As I understand it when I bought this it had sat for a year unused.
Previous to that it had sat for a few years in a garage and been used
occasionally and prior to that had been in the hands of the chap who
rescued it from Salford. When I received it I had problems getting
anything sensible on the terminal then things went downhill and I
discovered the main 5V PSU had failed.
I tried replacing that with an external 200A unit borrowed from my Cray
EL but hadn't considered how many other signals are generated by the
power supply. (MAN070 is available on bitsavers but this only covers
the older Prime models - the power supply signals look the same but the
VCP is very different). The ? 12 and +16 are all OK. I tried faking some
of the power good signals and checked others (50Hz clock, etc). I even
found one signal had broken on the backplane and have repaired that.
Unfortunately without the manual for this specific model I'm stuck. In
it's current condition it just sits with all front panel lights on and
nothing on the console.
CPU:
As I say, the 5V supply has failed. I've patched several lines (the
power good signals) inside the supply. I've had all the boards out,
cleaned the connectors and vacumed the boards and case. I can include an
80A 5V supply if it's of any use to you (I'd hope 80A is sufficient. The
200A unit I was using is now back with the Cray!!)
Disk drives:
I found that the bolts holding the disk units in the casings were
missing (a bag of "spares" was supplied which included the bolts and
rubber mountings). I replaced the bolts before powering up, thankfully!
One of the disk units powers up and spins. The other doesn't power at
all. I removed all the dust too whilst the drives were out.
Tape drive:
Powers up and front panel buttons seem to "do stuff" but can't test any
further.
Tapes:
These are all externally clean but a lot of the casings have cracked.
You'll need some experience with 9 tracks to read these I expect.
Documentation:
There's a lot of very tidy manuals and also quite a few loose manuals in
ring binders. There's also about 10 pocket guides. What is nice is the
collection of history - there's administrator logs, service requests, etc.
Floppy drives:
I'm told the two original Prime badged units have failed. There's a
couple of more modern replacements (and a handful of floppies) included
- one of these should work!
Without a working system I obviously can't test anything. Therefore, you
should consider this as a source of spares or possible repair if you
have the skill and/or manuals. I'm around most weekends for collection
and can obviously give a hand loading. A standard SWB Transit does the
job nicely.
So come on, give the Prime a new home. Please :)
James
After a recent fight with some Cipher tape drives,
trying to boot a system, I managed to badly mangle the
leader of my boot tape. Now, rewriting the tape isn't
a problem, but fixing the tape is. I can cut off the
mangled leader, but then there won't be enough tape
left before the BOT marker. The BOT on a nine track is
just a hunk of sensing foil, just like I remember from
trying to repair eight track tapes (BTW, tinfoil and
double sided tape _doesn't_ work on eight tracks). Rat
Shack no longer sells sensing foil, surprise, surprise
- so, does anyone know of a currently available
solution? That metal duct work tape perhaps? I don't
want to use anything that might risk damage to the
heads though. Any ideas?
-Ian
>From: der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca>
>
>[replying to two messages in the same thread together]
>
> >> I was using a 40W light bulb in series with the primary, as a
> >> current limiter, which is why the primary voltage was 25V instead of
> >> ~120V. The bulb was glowing (not quite full power, but close).
> > Well, even with a 40W bulb in series, I would expect a transformer
> > with no load on the secondaries to give almost full output if there
> > were not shorted turns.
>
>Well, yes - since it would be drawing (to a first approximation) zero
>current. That the bulb glows at all with all the secondaries open is
>to me a strong indication that something is shorted.
>
---snip---
Hi
That is not necessarily true. The transformer is an inductor and
would normally draw quite a bit of current. It would be 90 degrees
out of phase with the voltage across it but It is still current. It is
current that makes lamps glow as well.
To tell if the transformer had shorts, you'd need to measure the
relative phase angle of the voltage on the lamp and the transformer.
If it was 90 degrees, there was no short, just the open in the
HV.
For a quick check, measure the voltage across the transformer and
then across the light. If these totaled together was greater than
the measured line voltage, I'd say the transformer was most likely
OK. If the sum was equal to the line voltage, it is surely shorted.
Some 'oscope measurements on a dual trace would be more meaningful.
Just the fact that the light lit is not enough to say that the
transformer is bad or good.
Dwight
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At 15:35 -0600 2/23/07, der Mouse wrote:
>Certainly. And forget centrues; try millennia. The Pyramids. The
>Sphinx. Stonehenge. The French cave paintings. Old Greek and Roman
>coins from archaeological digs.
At 21:11 -0600 2/23/07, Chuck wrote:
>Heck, we've "manufactured" artifacts that will last for a hundred
>thousand years or more. Just google "Yucca Mountain".
Pikers.
Try the Voyager record. *That* puppy is going to be around
(somewhere) for some serious millenia. Or the CD taped to the New
Horizons Spacecraft, seen below in on-topic format :-).
Data retrieval, however, will not be easy.
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Comment from the UK
Cathode Ray display devices such as TV, Terminals, Oscilloscopes etc.
are generally refered to as "tubes" over here. 'Valve' is taken to mean
the glass (or metal) enveloped switching or amplifying devices.
Special devices such as photomultipliers are also normally called tubes.
Rod Smallwood
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Sent: 01 March 2007 12:58
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: I am now Annoyed [Re: Old oscilloscope help: ideas sought]
On 3/1/07, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
> On 28 Feb 2007 at 19:00, der Mouse wrote:
>
> > Actually, come to think of it, looking at your (natural enough) use
> > of "valve" where I'd write "tube", I'm curious - are CRTs called
> > CRTs on your side of the pond, or something else (CRV?)?
>
> This has come up before--it's "tube" if I recall. The same applies to
> terms suchl as TWT.
>
> The only difference is that some pronounce it "chube"
^^^^^^
"all". No-one British that I've ever heard pronounces it "toob".
People would look at you funny if you did ;)
Ed.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160090821802
"After living and breathing my life working on DG equipment, I have put
together an extensive set of manuals for the mininova, nova, Supernova,
eclipse minicomputers life."
How nice. It just happens to match the pdfs from a well known source.
He's done this with other parts of the archive, but this particular add
makes it sound like he actually did some WORK.
At least the guy that's been selling bitsavers stuff in Israel puts the
source in his ads.
> The only thing you might do to curtail this kind of "thievery" is to
> "watermark" key pages of manuals on bitsavers.
I don't care if people sell the files, what annoyed me was the implication
in the ad that he did the work.
I also see he points to bitsavers when he 'includes' a manual with a
board
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160073926988
A few weeks ago, I bought an Applied Microsystems 8085 ICE 'with manual'
It was a CD of my scan off bitsavers.
Hello,
Are there any other cctech members in Ireland?
We are having a clearout at work and there is some old gear is
going to be thrown out. If anyone wants it, they are welcome to
come and get it.
There are:
One or maybe two VAXstation 3100s. Basic models - no model 76
or other high end ones. No disks. Should be working.
Two VR299 colour monitors. (32kg each) One has no red on the
display and a faulty on/off switch. The other is fairly ok.
Two table top TLZ04 DAT tape drives.
They both probably chew tapes :-(
Some TLZ09 storageworks (green/brown) TLZ09 DAT tape drives.
Condition unknown.
Some storageworks (green/brown) canisters that once housed disks.
Worked when they had disks in them.
Some Decserver 200 terminal servers (8 port, LAT only)
Some working, some power supply faults, some logic board faults.
Two Dec DEMSB X.25 routers (with a few cables)
Worked some years ago. Stored indoors since then.
Two Satelcom Megapac X.25 switches (also with cables and manual)
Seem to work. Not really sure what to look for though.
A Livingston Portmaster 2e serial & ISDN "communications server"
Faulty I think. Can test if anyones interested.
A VT420 terminal.
Dead as far as I recall. Can test if necessary.
Maybe some other related bits and bobs.
If anybody can take any of this, please contact me off-list.
All are available for collection in South Dublin. I don't want to
crate and ship anywhere as they are generally heavy, awkward and
probably not of sufficient interest or rarity (although the X.25
stuff may be rare in some parts of the world, but I doubt if
anyone's interested).
Regards,
Peter.
At 01:05 PM 2/17/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>On 2/14/07, Tom Peters <tpeters at mixcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey all,
>>
>>I just missed out on a Tek 7904 scope (four trace) with four plug-ins for
>>$299. Was that a deal? The plugins were 7A26 7A18 7CTIN and 7B53A.
>>
>>Looks like a 500mhz scope, but with plugins good for 200mhz and a curve
>>tracer.
>>
>>Are plugins for that scope readily avaiable and reasonably priced?
>>
>>-Tom (my real name) Peters.
>hey, since the listing should be over by now (since you said you won
>it)...perhaps you wouldn't mind sending us a link to the listing so we can
>all drool over exactly what you got? :P :D :)
Sure, absolutely. The item number originally posted for $299 has been lost.
The relist at my price is below. Try not to drool on the knobs- they get
slippery and hard to adjust ~(:-) that's me with a feather in my cap.
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If anyone is interested, I have a photo someone sent
me of this:
"...a time lapse photo of the ROPA (40.020) launch
where you can see the aurora in the background and all
four stages."
Still haven't set up the ol' website, so I can't
simply post it there. If anyone would like me to
forward it to them, ping me. Really groovy stuph.
The wonderful human being who sent it to me was
actually involved in the launch, in some capacity.
I might not be forwarding it out until the next time
I'm online. Prolly Monday or Tuesday.
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Hi cctalkers,
A while back there was a URL posted somewhere on this list about a
(1950s?) character generator which worked solely by mixing harmonics,
with X-Y output to connect to a display tube. It could only generate
the digits 0-9, but was a seriously impressive piece of kit
nonetheless.
I recently wanted to show this to a friend, and couldn't find it with
any amount of Googling.
If someone can remember this site, or has it bookmarked, I'd be
endlessly grateful for the URL.
Thanks,
Ed.
The monitor of my microvax died. It is worse to play with
machine without monitor than without mouse on modern computer.
The model is matrox 1985 QG-640 254-06-02. I could not read it
clearly. It could be QC-640 instead of QG-640.
Just wonder if anyone has this for sale or giveway.
thanks
Henry
Spring comes early in Texas; too many days in a row of 80 degree weather
triggers my spring cleaning subroutine.
I have just poorly photographed and barely cataloged 28 S-100 cards, all
but one, made by IMS -- Industrial Micro Systems. None are tested.
My main criterion for picking will be whatever is easy for me, but I
can't say that unfairness, prior exchanges, and unfounded opinion will
also influence which board goes to where. That is, if I'm so lucky that
anybody wants these.
The boards are well made, although some have had parts removed (most are
complete). None have been tested by me. I've had them for, uh, I guess
two years, and the previous owner was given them some years before.
You can see the index and pictures here:
http://home.pacbell.net/frustum/s100/
Each card is in a 6"x10" antistatic bag, inside a padded mailer. They
will be further padded with bubble wrap and boxed, and sent via USPS
priority mail. You pay the shipping.
I'll give people a few days to respond, then I'll get to work boxing and
mailing. Please let me know which board(s) you are interested it, and
if you have some specific need or use for one, let me know that too as
it may influence the judge. Responding to the list instead of
frustum at pacbell.net is an automatic 3/10th scoring deduction.
If you are wonder why there are no cards 11, 22, or 33, it is because I
used my children's number blocks to act as an index record when
photographing, and there is only one of each number. :-)
Below is the index:
Box #1
========================================================================
1 - IMS A645 Rev B Z80 CPU; 2K boot ROM labelled "TST"; empty spot for RTC
2 - IMS C00451 Z80 CPU, (c) 79
3 - IMS A930 Rev C Floppy Disk Controller (NEC 765-based); also NEC 8257
(DMA)
50 pin connector (8"), (c) 84
4 - IMS A443 I/O Board, NS 8255 PIO, "IPL REV 1.4" EPROM,
2*GI AY-3-1015 UART, NEC 8253 PIT, one ear missing from connector,
two empty sockets; not sure if they should be stuffed or not
5 - IMS A1021 Rev C, (c) 1983, 64K DRAM, with parity and parity error
indicator
All 9 DRAMs have been removed, but otherwise intact
6 - IMS C00451 Z80 CPU, Rev C., (c) 79
7 - IMS C00442 I/O Board, NS 8255 PIO, "IPL REV 1.4" EPROM,
2*GI AY-3-1015 UART, NEC 8253 PIT
8 - IMS C00480 4-Line Comm. Controller (NS 8250 * 4)
9 - IMS A930 Rev C Floppy Disk Controller (NEC 765-based); also NEC 8257
(DMA)
34 pin connector (5.25"), (c) 84
12 - IMS A930 Rev B Floppy Disk Controller (NEC 765-based); also NEC
8257 (DMA)
34 pin connector (5.25"), (c) 82
13 - IMS C00442 I/O Board, NS 8255 PIO, "IPL REV 1.1" EPROM,
2*GI AY-3-1015 UART, NEC 8253 PIT
14 - IMS A971 Rev A (c) 83, Z80A CPU board,
but it has been stripped of some chips, including the Z80 and boot
ROM,
a few jellybeans, likely a couple serial controllers, and a RTC
15 - IMS A971 Rev B (c) 83, Z80A CPU board,
but it has been stripped of some chips, including the Z80 and boot
ROM,
a few jellybeans, likely a couple serial controllers, and a RTC
Box #2
========================================================================
21 - IMS A1030 Rev A, (c) 83, Isolated I/O board; 16 inputs, 16 outputs
23 - IMS A1270 Rev B, (c) 84, Z80B Master/Slave Board; missing Z80,
two banks of DRAM, RTC, serial chip, but jellybeans are there
24 - IMS C00464, (c) 79, 64KB DRAM, parity checked, 4x9x16Kb
all DRAMs missing
25 - IMS C00401, (c) 79, floppy controller, NEC 765, NEC 8257 (DMA)
50-pin connector (8") plus a 16-pin connector (??)
26 - IMS C00480, (c) 79, 4-Line Comm. Controller, 4*8250
27 - IMS A821 Rev A WD Controller; 8255 PIO, EPROM labeled '5" WINCH'
This very likely requires an adapter card, which I have many of
28 - IMS A821 Rev A WD Controller; 8255 PIO, EPROM labeled '5" WINCH'
This very likely requires an adapter card, which I have many of
29 - IMS A821 Rev A WD Controller; 8255 PIO, EPROM labeled '5" WINCH'
This very likely requires an adapter card, which I have many of
31 - IMS A1021 Rev C, (c) 1983, 64K DRAM, with parity and parity error
indicator
All 9 DRAMs have been removed, but otherwise intact
32 - IMS C00451 Z80 CPU Board Rev B, (c) 79
34 - IMS A1100 Rev D, (c) 84, Winchester Controller ST412/506 type interface
NEC 8085 CPU, EPROM, 2KB SRAM, three Adaptec disk interface chips
35 - IMS A1100 Rev C, (c) 84, Winchester Controller ST412/506 type interface
NEC 8085 CPU, EPROM, 2KB SRAM, three Adaptec disk interface chips
36 - IMS A1100 Rev C, (c) 84, Winchester Controller ST412/506 type interface
NEC 8085 CPU, EPROM, 2KB SRAM, three Adaptec disk interface chips
37 - IMS A1010 A/D Converter, Rev A, (c) 83, 8 Channels; NS ADC0809
38 - unknown mfr modem
Finally, sorry for the poor quality photos. I'm not a photographer and
I didn't check them until after I had already taken all the pictures and
slipped each card into an anti-static bag.
I know that a couple people who watch this list were wanting this info...
I took the one RJ12 to minidin-6 adapter which I got with an IBM 3153
terminal, and pinned it out. The pinout of the connectors is from what
I could tell, the "standard" pinout for each connector.
RJ12 (tab down) MiniDIN-6 (socket)
1 .. 6 /--__--\
+------+\ / 6 || 5 \
|||||||| | | 4 3 |
| | | \ 2 1 /
+------+ | \------/
\______\|
Ok, now the cable pinout:
DIN RJ12 Use
1 2 Data
2 4 N/C
3 4 GND
4 6 +5VDC
5 1 Clock
6 N/C N/C
Pat
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Hi all,
I'm looking for a Panasonic FH-2000, Panasonic HC-2000, or Nixdorf PC-05.
If anybody here has one, then please contact me off-list if you're willing
to sell or trade it. Thanks!
- Evan