- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by obsidian＠panokratie.de

Hi! Does anybody have information about how the Apollo Domain xx00 series goes about netbooting? I didn't recognize any standard boot protocol... Is it possible to teach it to user BOOTP/TFTP/RARP stuff or maybe the HP remote boot thingies? Thanks, Kevin

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Packaging service recommendations?

by eric-no-spam-for-me＠brouhaha.com

John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> writes: > San Jose to Portland is about 400? 500? miles right up the 5.. make > a pleasant roadtrip of it, and only pay for the rental and gas. 665.2 miles, according to Yahoo Maps. Sounds about right, I've driven it several times.

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Rescue of Four Phase Systems mini-computer from Tampa (long)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Blech, brown recluses! I have a computer that was a home for them... My uncle lives in Colorado Springs, and his old house had a seperate, free-standing shed/garage type of thing (much too big for a shed really). Anyway, that's where he kept his tractor, camper, etc. And his garage was infested with the things... And back in the far corner was my Honeywell DPS-6/54, and the previous owner had thoughtfully coiled up the cables in the bottom of the cabinet, creating a nice hiding space.. Needless to say, my uncle and I were wearing thick gloves and long shirts when we put it in the truck.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Offering HP 200LX palmtop

by azog＠azog.org

This is not necessarily off-topic, because the device is interesting enough to qualify, even tho it is less than 5 years old. I recently picked up an HP 200LX "palm-top". This is discontinued from HP, in favor of their PocketPC products, but the details can be had at http://www.hp.com/jornada/products/200/. In short, this is a palm-sized PC, with a slightly-less-than 8MHz 80186 processor, 2mb of RAM, and embedded DOS. It has your slew of familiar PIM type apps - calendar, contacts. It also has an embedded version of Quicken and cc:Mail. It has a PCMCIA controller, but I dunno what devices it supports. I tried a Lucent WaveLAN 803.11b Silver card in it, but, as I suspected, it did not work. According to HP docs, you can use flash-ram, modems, and other devices. I have the recharger, but it's fitted with alkaline batteries right now. You'd obviously need NiCad to use the recharger unit. Includes a fairly thick users guide. I'm offering it here first, just because I find it a "gee-whiz" type of device, if not exactly "classic". If no-one here is interested, I'll try to offer it on e-bay. It works, except I get error messages that the backup battery is low, even tho I replaced it. Perhaps something is wrong? I'll trade it for pretty much anything of interest (but I'd really like a VAX 750 :) so let me know please. Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary

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ID a keyboard please ?

by lgwalker＠look.ca

I usually pick up any old uncommon keyboard that I see. I recently acquired one that has no Logo or company name on it. Opening it up gives some #s and the name Handaman on the PCB. The connector is a right-angle 5pin DIN. It has a plastic silver-gray case and a metal bottom-plate It is qwerty with grey and black keys. There is a reset button on the upper-left side. There's a row of 5 function keys on the left labelled PF1 to PF10. On either side of the space key are LOCK on left side and GRAPH on right side. On the left side of the qwerty are ESC, a tab-key,CTRL, and SHIFT. It has the >< keys between the l-shift and Z.and double periods and commas where those usually are. Some others are also differently placed- INS/DEL are one key. It has a numeric keypad with a RED break key and a double 0 next to the regularly placed 0. Anyone recognize this beast ? thanks larry Reply to: lgwalker(a)look.ca

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computers in movies

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

I was just watching CircuitryMan the other day on cable. Amusing to find that even in the distant future when jacking into someone's brain is common place and the environment has been so despoiled as to be uninhabitable (and we get the environmental lecture from Plughead, the bad guy) that the tools the police use to scan someone's brain for information are driven by a Kaypro 2. :) -- Jim Strickland jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- BeOS Powered! -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Attention: KS10 owners

by aw288＠osfn.org

Would the people on this list that are involved with the DEC KS10s I have stored in my shop please contact me off the list - I may need to move them out within a month or two. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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Fax Machines

by mowhite＠pegasus.rutgers.edu

> While I'm at it, anyone remember an old Live from Off Center PBS show that > featured a single, half hour long Rube Goldberg contraption? It was in a > dark wharehouse and they taped it as some sort of performance art peice. It > rocked, and I can't find any info on it. Thanks! > I know you posted this a while ago, but I just found it. I was wondering if you ever found the information you were looking for - I am looking for the same tape of the 1/ 2 hour Rube Goldberg I saw on PBS. Please let me know if you got any further info. Thanks so much. Monyca White

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8080 Programs to be posted

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> > If anyone's interested, I've been working on producing compilable >source for some printed 8080-based programs. I have to do some final proof >reading, but I will post shortly to my Web site the source for Lawrence >Livermore BASIC (from an early DDJ issue) and the Amsat-Golem monitor >program (from an early BYTE magazine). I have the listings for them in one of the Best of Interface Age books. It also contains: LLL BASIC Dr Wangs Palo Alto BASIC (tiny) National TinyBasic (NIBL) Floppy Rom #1 Robert Unterwyks 6800 4k basic Allison

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Popular Computing on eBay for $150+

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Wasn't Bill Yates listed as a co-author on the original Altair article in P-E with Ed Roberts? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: John Allain [mailto:John.Allain@Donnelley.InfoUSA.Com] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 12:10 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Popular Computing on eBay for $150+ Hey, issue 2 has an article in it by "William Yates and Paul van Baalen" IIRC. Can anyone back up that these guys exist? Seems like a pretty interesting co-incidence. I'm referring to of course "William Gates and Paul Allen" John A.

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need info on Datel ERPOM64 Eprom burner

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I found a small circuit board marked "Datel EPROM64 8/88". It has a ZIF socket on it and it appears to be part of an EPROM burner. One end of the board has a 24 position card edge connector socket. A quick net search showed that Datel built a lot EPROM burners that plugged into the Commie 64. Is anyone familar with this product? If so, what else is needed besides the card with the ZIF socket? Joe

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RZ,nI: Claude Shannon

by stephen.j.gabaly＠baesystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > Some of Shannon's better known known theorems include > the Sampling Theorem, which indicates that a bandwidth-limited > signal can be reconstructed only if sampled at least at twice > the frequency of the highest-frequency spectral content. > Take a 1 Vpp@40Hz Sinewave, highest-frequency spectral content is 40Hz, sample it at twice this frequency, 80Hz, sample at 0 and 180 degrees (0Vpp Amplitude), the reconstructed sinewave will be 0Vpp at 0 Hz. Oh well, guess Shannon's theorem is incorrect... steve

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Popular Computing on eBay for $150+

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 2, Paul Braun wrote: > They came up with the name "MITS" to siphon off some of the > prestige from the school of the same initials, and then made up the > words necessary to make it an acronym....I believe it was "Micro > Instrumentation and Telemetry Something"....obviously, my brain is > protesting because it wants more Phish Food and I haven't fed it > yet..... It was Micro Instrumentation and Telemetry Systems. Forrest M. Mims was quite the writer...I grew up reading his books. And who could forget that his wife's name is...MINNIE! Yes folks, Minnie Mims. Stop laughing now. ;) -Dave McGuire

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Looking for Query/36

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Owen, I've got the original IBM system install disks and RPG subsystem on 8" floppies. Unfortunately, that's the only software I have for the /36. Wouldn't mind finding COBOL or some other more interesting software for it. If you don't have RPG already installed, I'll loan you the disks (I guess it's safe to loan software to a fellow Robertson). Send your address and I'll try to get it out next week. Steve Robertson > >Sure. I'll have to check to see if it's on there already or not, but if it >isn't, I'm interested. Is it on 8" diskettes? > >Thanks, >Owen > >on 2/27/01 2:36 PM, Steve Robertson at steven_j_robertson(a)hotmail.com >wrote: > > > I've got RPG for the /36. Don't know if that interests you or not? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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New here :-)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/2/01 8:18:54 PM Central Standard Time, jpero(a)sympatico.ca writes: << > From: "Edwin P. Groot" <epgroot(a)ucdavis.edu> > Subject: Re: New here :-) > Reply-to: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Duh, I was thinking of the model 60 with the steel case and the full > height ESDI hard drives. It has a carrying handle at the top and a warning > that it is over 45 kg. 60,65 SX,80 shares same case and 95 series are all towers and heavy. Even my 90 XP is heavy too for desktop case. Heck, both P70/P75 are heavy (appox 20lbs) and do have handle. Wizard w/ his small IBM collection. >> even the small 9556 is very heavy, due to its all metal construction including the wrap around case. Even so, a 9595 is very heavy. I ebayed one with a FH SCSI drive and the guy paid shipping for it from one coast to the other! david, with a *big* IBM collection. DB Young Team OS/2 visit the computer collection, and hot rod pinto at: http://www.nothingtodo.org

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EXOR-bus?

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Is there anyone out there that collects EXOR-bus stuff? I just lucked into a pile of Motorola Exor-bus cards. Joe

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Fw: "lusher file?"

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

Hi gang, Anyone knows what that person is talking about? I suspect it might have been a file manager but please let me know if I'm wrong. Thanks Francois > Hi Francois, > > I had a friend of mine say he had something called a lusher(sp?) file > program on an old comodore computer he had. Any idea what this might have > been and what it did? > > Thanks, > > Kriss Davis > kpdavis(a)ilstu.edu > >

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Tatung Einstein disks

by PeksaDO＠Cardiff.ac.uk

> A friend of mine has a working Einstein and thinks he has Xtaldos > and possibly another OS (pseudo-CP/M?) for a 40-column system. > There was apparently a genuine CP/M version for an 80-column > machine, but he doesn't have the 80-column add-on, nor real CP/M. > Unfortunately, he's about to go on holiday, so it will be at least a > couple of weeks before he can look for disks, but I've saved your > mail, and will remind him. Thanks Pete. My Einstein came with the 80 column add-on so now I've got something else to find :-) i.e. the genuine CP/M as well as XtalDos. After changing a few jumpers in the 80 column add-on, the Einstein now works with the Phillips mono monitor I use with my BBC Master. Doug

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Popular Computing on eBay for $150+

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hmm, if it was shipped USPS, there is a department that warehouses all of that unreturnable and unforwardable mail.. read about it in Smithsonian once.. they even had some guy's ashes on the shelf, and due to that article, the family who was related to him was able to contact the USPS and retrieve his remains.. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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HP-UX librarian has been chosen

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I'll catalog everything and figure out a fair distribution scheme as soon as I receive the package. Any thoughts from the group about the legality of copying the CDs? The 10.X stuff was available for free from HP as Y2K updates and I see install packages being sold on Ebay all the time. Thanks again Paul, Steve Robertson >From: "Paul Braun" <nerdware(a)laidbak.com> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: HP-UX librarian has been chosen >Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:25:45 -0600 > >Hi, group. > >Steve Robertson has volunteered to be librarian. I'll be boxing the >discs up this weekend and shipping them out, and I'm assuming >he'll catalog 'em and post what he's got after he gets 'em (would be >kinda hard for him to do it *before* he gets them.....) > >Thanks again to everyone who volunteered to help. Hopefully, this >system will help the greatest number of you *nix-heads. > > > > > > >Paul Braun WD9GCO >Cygnus Productions >nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com > >"A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a >bunch of bricks tied to its head." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Fw: "lusher file?"

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Commode-ore? Maybe its the flusher file then? Does the machine stall instead of crash? hehe _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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8080 Programs to be posted

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: If anyone's interested, I've been working on producing compilable source for some printed 8080-based programs. I have to do some final proof reading, but I will post shortly to my Web site the source for Lawrence Livermore BASIC (from an early DDJ issue) and the Amsat-Golem monitor program (from an early BYTE magazine). Enjoy. Rich

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Rescue of Four Phase Systems mini-computer from Tampa (long)

by vcf＠siconic.com

The rescue of a very obscure 70s era mini-computer was accomplished last Thursday and Friday. It had been sitting in a storage shed on a forsaken piece of property in Tampa, Florida, for at least 15 years, quite possibly 20. Although it wasn't exposed to the elements, the humidity, termites and rats did a number on the machine. I was told of the machine by a man related to the person who used to own the property, but has been passed away now for several years. The property was tied up in probate, and he invited me to just come and take the machine whenever I wanted. The machine was made by Four Phase Systems, somewhere in the 1972-73 timeframe. Four Phase Systems was a company that ran out of Santa Clara, California, from the late-60s through the 80s. I believe they were eventually bought out by Motorola. One of the biggest technological achievements of Four Phase was in producing a sort of microprocessor before Intel, in the 1968-1969 timeframe. It was called the AL1 and was intended to be a general purpose CPU for mini-computer systems. I don't have many details on it yet but I'm awaiting more literature. I became aware of it from my research during VCF 2.0, when I was promoting the unveiling of Ray Holt's F14 CADC "microprocessor". I don't know if the AL1 has all the elements of a "microprocessor" as defined by the base standard, which is the Intel 4004. But one professor at North Carolina State University wrote a paper arguing that FPS could have called it a microprocessor, but chose not to. He's sending me a copy of the paper he wrote and I'll report further when I receive it. The rescue was not without its challenges. Louis and his wife met me at the airport and we drove over to the site. It was a dark storage shed cluttered with junk. We immediately set about pulling out the computer hardware. Luckily, it was all in racks on rollers, but we still had to roll it out onto dirt to get it onto the truck. The machines were filthy, having been infested with rat's nests. We didn't realize the extent of it until we got them to Louis' warehouse. Louis had made a couple prior visits to investigate the site and to round up various bits of documentation. Some of the manuals were almost complete destroyed by termites. They looked simply water damaged until you opened them up, where you would find that they were almost completely eaten out by termites (with still live termites running around inside). Fortunately, a lot of the documentation did survive in relatively good shape. We grabbed up all the docs worth saving and stuffed them into two big garbage bags. I'll have to sort through them (and hopefully not introduce a horrible strain of termites to the California environment :) Some of the manuals that survived included schematics of the various boards that comprise the system. We loaded everything up onto the truck within the limits of the sunlight we had. We then drove it over to Louis' warehouse. The next morning we palletized everything for shipping. We had a 5' tall 19" rack for the CPU, another for the tape drive, and then a 3' tall cabinet that housed a removeable platter hard drive. We also got a smaller Xerox 800 word processing machine. All the racks had a tremendous amount of shredded paper, Spanish moss, and other undesirable elements from the rat's nests. One nest even contained the remains of one of its previous inhabitants. Luckily, Louis' shop had an air compressor. We tried to blow everything out as thoroughly as possible. Here are the pictures of the machine: CPU card cage http://www.siconic.com/computers/Four%20Phase%20Systems%20CPU.jpg CPU Front Panel (front cover removed) http://www.siconic.com/computers/Four%20Phase%20Systems%20Front%20Panel.jpg CPU (left) and tape drive http://www.siconic.com/computers/Four%20Phase%20Systems%20Mini-Computer.jpg This picture shows the grime and yuck that was inside the hard drive unit. A lot of the mess was the decayed sound-dampening foam lining the inside: http://www.siconic.com/computers/Inside%20Four%20Phase%20Systems%20Hard%20D… This picture shows the rat's nest inside the Xerox 800 unit: http://www.siconic.com/computers/Xerox%20800%20Rat's%20Nest.jpg I didn't take any pictures of the terminals, but we saved four out of the 8 or 9 that were there. We also found an old Televideo all-in-one CP/M machine inside the house on the property. We put the CPU and tape drive on one pallet, and the hard drive on another. I left the Xerox 800 behind, for now. Louis is holding it for me until I can determine if it is significant enough to save. The reason I left it is because it is fairly rusted inside. I don't like to trash anything, but the circumstances being that it was very rusted and I didn't want to fill another pallet, I decided to leave it until I could research it further to determine if it is worth saving. It looks like it might be some predecessor of the Xerox 820 computer, as it has the same color scheme and badge. Or it may be related to the 8010 in some odd way. I'm not sure. But if someone has information on this machine I'd certainly appreciate you sharing it. It had a typewriter attached by a thick cable, and two digital cassette drives on the front. If anyone has any info on this machine then please let me know. If it ends up being worth saving, Louis will ship it out to me. If not, Louis will dumpster it. I shoved the rest of the terminals, keyboards and documentation inside the open space of the cabinets, first wrapping them in cardboard to give them some cushioning. Everything was very snug. We wrapped the machines in cardboard and then Louis banded them. Everything was tight. We had a guy from the business next door load everything onto the U-Haul we rented with a forklift. If we'd thought about it, we could have gotten by without the U-Haul, since we originally were going to use pallets that would not have fit inside Louis' pickup. But we ended up using very narrow pallets. Oh well. Something to keep in mind for next time. We drove the pallets out to Forward Air in Tampa for shipping. (http://www.forwardair.com). Forward Air is a favorite shipper amongst arcade game collectors (and myself) because it is so cheap. They charge USD$0.20/lbs from Tampa to San Francisco (rates vary depending on distance and other factors). The only drawback is that you must haul your pallets to and from their depots, which are located throughout the US (check their website for locations). But it's entirely worth it. The pallets weighed way more than we anticipated: 1,377 pounds total! I was thinking, based on the weight estimates I initially got, that it would cost me only around $120 to ship. It ended up being $294. Still, not bad for almost 3/4 of a ton. I will have more information about the machine once I retrieve it from Forward Air's depot in San Francisco either today or tomorrow. I'll have a chance to look over everything over the weekend. I'd like to profusely thank Louis Schulman and his wife for their help with this project. I certainly would have had extraordinary difficulty trying to do this whole thing without his help. While we're on the topic of Louis, I would just like to give a plug to his business, Island Wood Works. He makes fantastic outdoor wood furniture. This is real quality stuff. You folks in Florida (and just about anywhere for that matter...they've shipped furniture to places all over the country, including the San Diego Zoo) should definitely give Louis a call and buy some furniture from him. His number is 727/572.1119, or find him on the web at http://www.islandwoodworks.com. He's in Clearwater. Thanks, Louis!!! Lessons learned: I planned well in advance for this adventure. You all might remember me posting a message back in January asking for assistance on this project. I got a few responses (thanks, all), but Louis was right in the Tampa area, had a truck, the facilities to palletize everything, and a keen sense of adventure, so it worked out perfectly. I checked where everything was in advance (the nearest U-Haul location, the location of Forward Air, the hotel I'd be staying in, etc.) from MapQuest which helped me get an idea of the geography and how much driving/hauling would be involved. It was very, very helpful having Louis pre-field the site and try to determine how much everything weighed so I could estimate the shipping costs for my budget. This, it turns out, is more difficult to estimate than one might think. We thought each rack weighed only a couple hundred pounds but it turns out each must've weighed 400-500 each. U-Haul is always a fricken nightmare. Just trying to get them to answer the phone is a challenge. I've used them many times before, but I'm pretty well aware of what goes on inside U-Haul because they were a client of the last company I worked for, and I've visited their coporate HQ. The place is a mess. Still, it is the only game in town, and the best value (as long as the truck doesn't break down :) It cost $42 to rent a 10' truck, but only for the 4 hours they allowed us to keep it (their rentals are not "daily", but they still charge you the full 24 hour rate). Don't get me started on how much I hate U-Haul, but as I said, they are the only game in town unless you want to shell out a hundred bucks to use a truck for a day with a company like Ryder or something. Forward Air is a great company to use for shipping large loads of old computers. I used them before on a haul of Xerox 6085 "Daybreaks" from Raleigh, North Carolina, and that went well. Be aware that Forward Air does have a reputation for dropping things and damaging them. I hope my machine arrived OK, but I won't know until I go get it. I'll report on it once I do. Still, the value can't be beat. Always give yourself enough leeway in terms of time. Everything went as well for us as it could have, and so we actually finished quicker than I originally scheduled. I planned to leave on Saturday morning for Fort Lauderdale, but ended up taking off at 4pm on Friday instead. Retrieving the computers only took about 2 hours. Palletizing everything took about 4 hours. We did this leisurely. If we'd have rushed we probably could have done it all in 2 hours. This was a very fun project. Every serious big iron collector should do at least one long distance haul like this. Even you guys who only collect micros should try something like this once. It always makes for good stories to share with other collectors. :) Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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Websites listing Apollo's for sale

by wstan＠localhostnl.demon.nl

Can anyone recommend any websites that may list Apollo's that are for sale? I have tried eBay and don't see anything there. I even checked the eBay sites set up for each country (ie. Germany, France, etc.) Also, what is the most common model of Apollo that I am likely to find? Are there any companies or educational institutions still using Apollo's and running Domain? -Bill wstan(a)localhostnl.demon.nl

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HP-UX librarian has been chosen

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Hi, group. Steve Robertson has volunteered to be librarian. I'll be boxing the discs up this weekend and shipping them out, and I'm assuming he'll catalog 'em and post what he's got after he gets 'em (would be kinda hard for him to do it *before* he gets them.....) Thanks again to everyone who volunteered to help. Hopefully, this system will help the greatest number of you *nix-heads. Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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VAX question

by vcf＠siconic.com

VAX g00r00s! This question was posed to me: Did VMS have a built in utility that allowed to 1) time how long a given user was logged in, and/or 2) track what directories on the VAX the user entered? Answers appreciated. Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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Pair of CSA Transputer Education Kits on E-Pay

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, Currently on auction is a pair of CSA Transputer Education Kits: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2005933703 Cheers, Ram

25 years, 5 months

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Apple II CP/M card

by paul＠orchard.wccnet.org

For a good overview of Apple II CP/M, please see http://www.blkbox.com/~jdbaker/SmallSys/AppleCPM.html Paul R. Santa-Maria Monore, Michigan USA

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Subject: Re: Contents overview of Transputer Applications Noteboo k

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Ram the book my local library has is: Title : Parallel processing : the transputer and its applications / edited by M.E.C. Hull, D. Crookes, P.J. Sweeney. Publication : Wokingham, England ; Reading, Mass. : Addison-Wesley Pub. Co., c1994. Description : xii, 328 p. : ill. ; 24 cm. Series : International computer science series Note : Includes bibliographical references and index. Subject(s) : * > Author(s) : Hull, M. E. C.Crookes, Daniel, 1956-Sweeney, P. J. (Patrick J.) ISBN : 0201627558 Holdings : Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Subject: Contents overview of Transputer Applications Noteboo k

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Ram That title seems to ring a bell. Somewhere I have the full set of the documentation and software that came with the CSA transputer kit. I also have a set of the boards that go in the PC. One board is a single t805 with the PC interface the other contains 4 T805's that can be connected via jumper cables. 5-6 years ago I modeled several ultrasound algorithms using the transputer to see if parallel processing using the transputer would produce real-time images. The kit came with reprints of several transputer and occam articles. I also researched what others had done and got reprints of their articles. My local public library has a book on creating applications using the transputer. I'll try and dig up more this weekend. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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What do you people use for tape cleaning ?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jarkko Teppo <jarkko.teppo(a)er-grp.com> wrote: > as the subject says, what do you people use for tape cleaning ? Isopropyl alcohol (>91%) and lint-free cloths. Should be OK on all HP 914x and 79[78]x drives *excepting* 7976, whose drive is some bizarre STC contraption that is made with the vacuum columns lined with little glass beads that are glued to the sides of the column -- alcohol is a solvent for this glue! -Frank McConnell

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What do you people use for tape cleaning ?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hehe, yes I would agree that missiles are a *very* bad product for your body : ) And yes, I know what you were meaning but I love being a smartass... Yes I can tell its lovely stuff, its labeled harmful or fatal if swallowed, vapor harmful, avoid prologned skin contact, etc. etc. etc. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Contents overview of Transputer Applications Notebook

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, Can someone provide me with the contents overview of the following book if you have it: Transputer Applications Notebook - Systems & Performance It is basically a collection of technical notes from INMOS. I need to know if there are any technical notes that are in this book that are NOT in the following two books: Inmos Technical Notes Inmos Communicating Sequential Processes Thanks, Ram

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What do you people use for tape cleaning ?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I also have that cleaning kit, but both (totally empty) bottles are marked "Freon TF"... But I still love my genuine IBM Tape Unit Cleaner, "Contains Trichlorotrifluoroethane, isopropyl alcohol." Should I ever run out of tape drives to clean, just add water and then its Sterno, hehe Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Wang VS-100 system

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

John, Yes, I got around 3 or 4 of them, but those boards were all I/O boards, memory, and maybe a disk controller.. All that Intel parts do in those machines is run I/O... the CPU is custom. The CPU in my VS300 appears to be made of 74AS881 4-bit ALU's and other 74xx parts, as well as 29xx parts. 32 bits, by the way. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Wang VS-100 system

by ip500＠home.com

Anyone using or hacking a Wang VS-100 system for anything these days? I ran across a very complete looking one in a storage building but as it's reasonably huge I've left it for the time being. O/S is unique to Wang is it not? Too proprietary to be of any use? Thanks, Craig

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Wang VS-100 system

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I'd say it must be the 100 that requires the boot console, as the 300 has a console built into it. Heck, the 300 is like an 11/780, i.e. has 2 computers in one, since it contains an entire Wang PC as the console/front end. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Wang VS-100 system

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I can say for sure that my 2200MVP's floppy drives use them, as all of the software and floppies I have for it are Wang hard-sector floppies... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Scanner plays music?

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:05:53 -0800 Jim Battle <frustum(a)pacbell.net> writes: <SNIPPAGE> > I used to work at a place called Palantir, which changed its name to > Calera, which later got bought by Caere. All of them made/make OCR > equipment. WOW, is that a blast from the past! Palantir made one of the first spell-checkers for Windows 2.0! Gawd, I remember using it with 'write' in 1987. I had always wondered what had happened to them . . . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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NW USA Quake

by jpl15＠panix.com

My thoughts and prayers go to all of us on the List who have been affected in any way by the recent siesmicity in Seattle. I hope sincerely that your families, yourselves, and your Stuff is okay. Here in India, as you might know, there was a huge quake which levelled a whole region, though I live 1250 miles from it, it was felt here (In Madras) Also, there has been El Salvador, and recently in the Afghanistan region, some activity which affected lives. I hope to hear good nes from some of the regular members who post from the Pacific Northwest. Cheers John

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In search of Apollo workstations

by wstan＠localhostnl.demon.nl

Does anyone know where I can find an Apollo workstation? I am looking for the vintage that runs the Domain OS. I would also prefer a source somewhere in Europe, although I could make special arrangements for the US if necessary. Bill Amsterdam, NL

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First computer singing

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 19, 23:18, Sellam Ismail wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, John Foust wrote: > > > Some .ram files merely reference an .rm file via http://, > > such as a .ram that contains: > > > > http://streams2.vortex.com/rmf/daisy.rm > > > > which would allow you to just enter that URL directly, > > or save-as, and then you'd have the .rm file. > > Sheer genius. But it didn't work :( I used the audio hardware on one of my SGI machines to snarf the stream as it played and uploaded it to http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/temp/daisy.wav for you (about 3MB). I was intrigued by the recording, and I knew I'd seen a reference somewhere else, so I spent a while hunting for more information. Interestingly, the first reference I found was in the classiccmp archives, from two years ago! But the following may be of interest: http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/INST/mar98/histquiz.html (a little background) http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.folklore.computers/20001109_Musical_main… (several recent informative Usenet posts) http://korova.com/kmr98/kmr8002.htm (near the bottom, explains that "Daisy" was useful because it contains all the notes in an octave) http://www.mindspring.com/~dmaxey/ssshp/ss_btl1.htm (relevant published papers and archive tapes at BTL, including the one from which "Daisy" is taken) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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OT: Shake, Rattle, & Roll

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

For those who may not have caught a news report lately, our area was hit with a pretty good-sized shaker today -- 6.8 on the Richter, to be exact, with the epicenter about 30 miles southwest of Seattle. The vast majority of the damage was in the older sections of the state capitol in Olympia, and in parts of downtown Seattle. The local news had some footage of a twisted pile of metal, buried under (literally) a ton of bricks from an older building. Said pile had once been an SUV in the Ford Bronco (full-size) class. The building I work in at Boeing's Renton plant appears to have sustained minimal damage, though it is still closed at this hour. It is expected to reopen tomorrow unless major structural problems are found. Thanks be to God, the sum total of our "damage" here at home was a stuffed animal fallen from its shelf, and my mate's closet door jarred out of alignment with its track guide. I have yet to check on the level of damage at the local used-computer places. The only fatality I know of, and I'm not even certain it can be directly attributed to the quake, is that a heart-attack victim died. And that's the Way it Is from southeast of Seattle, Kent's East Hill. At least Peter Jennings wasn't on the air to say "Earthquack" like he did with the Bay Area's 'Quake of '89.' ;-) Keep the peace(es). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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NeXT MO disks

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, This message replies to several in the thread about NeXT MO disks. On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 Jerome Fine wrote: >> A question about MO disks and the Canon MO drive installed in some NeXT >> cube computers. >> I know NeXT MO disks are single-sided, commonly quoted as having a capacity >> of 256MB. > > I have some rather old MO disks as well, but they are made by Sony and are > for a 5 1/4" Magneto Optical Disk drive - an S501. They are very close to > 290 MBytes on each side and are formatted for 512 bytes per sector. The sector layout is stamped into the disk at the factory; it is not possible to change. That's why there are two variants, e.g. 600MB and 650MB for first- generation drives. 600MB disks have 512-byte sectors, and 650MB disks have 1024-byte sectors. The extra capacity of 650MB disks is because less space is wasted on sector headers. Without special driver software, some computers only work with media with 512-byte sectors, which is why the lower-capacity disks exist. (On a kind-of-related note: I understand the sector layout or servo tracks of e.g. Zip disks are written at the factory. Does that mean if you degauss a Zip disk it is then useless, and cannot be reformatted?) > I don't know anything about the NeXT hardware, but if the shoe fits, .... > >> ... > > Since 250 MBytes per side is close, they might be the same as the ones I > have. Mine are 5 1/4" disks and formatted at 512 bytes per sector and hold > about 295 MBytes on each side for a total of about 590 Mbytes per disk. The Canon/NeXT disks are not the same as the ISO standard 600/650MB disks which the Sony drive uses. They may be the same physical shape, but that is all. A page on the Sony web site indicates that NeXT drives can use 600/650MB disks. I'm almost certain that is wrong. (The URL of the page is http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/rmeg/data/cg/table1mo.html - scroll down to the Canon section.) > In addition, a friend of mine has a large number of these disks which he no > longer wants. For a nominal charge plus shipping and handling, I am sure > that they can be made available. The shipping alone (these weigh about 1/2 > lb. EACH) will likely be more than the disks, so I do think it is a good > deal. On eBay, they often try to get the suckers to pay over $ US 5.00 a > disk just to start, although sometimes they start at a more reasonable $ US > 2.00 each. I am in Toronto, so the shipping may be more than you want to > pay! Shipping may not be that expensive. A while ago I bought 50 5.25" MO disks, and shipping within the USA by UPS cost $17 (from memory). The "media mail" USPS rate is comparable to book rate, but for computer media. Getting an older MO drive and disks is a really cheap way to get reliable removable storage. The drives are so cheap (usually under $25 for a 650MB drive, under $50 for 1.3GB) it is practical to get one for each computer. Used disks cost $1 or $2 each. Way better than using a Zip drive, I think. On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 Jeff Hellige wrote: >> I have some rather old MO disks as well, but they are made by Sony and are >> for a 5 1/4" Magneto Optical Disk drive - an S501. They are very close to >> 290 MBytes on each side and are formatted for 512 bytes per sector. > > If I recall correctly, one of the problems with the MO drives > was that there was little to no standardization of the formats or > disks for the drives. That's not really true any more. Well, since 1991 anyway. Before the original ISO standard was finalised, there were some problems with interchanging disks between drives from different companies. This was around 1989-1990. I believe most manufacturers updated the firmware of their drives to solve the problems. The major standard 5.25" MO capacities are: 600/650MB "1x", ISO 10089 Format A 1.2/1.3GB "2x", ISO 13549 2.3/2.6GB "4x", ISO 14517 4.1/4.8/5.2GB "8x", ISO 15286 8.6/9.1GB "14x", new, no standard published yet Newer drives can usually read all, and write to some or all previous standards. Currently 5.25" MO drives are manufactured by Maxoptix and Sony (HP and IBM drives are manufactured by Sony). They are completely compatible; a Maxoptix drive can read disks written in a Sony drive etc. In the past, drives have also been made by at least Ricoh, MOST, NEC, Nikon, Sharp, Pinnacle Micro, IBM, HP. Disks written on any of those should be readable on modern drives. There are some other less common capacities; Hitachi made a drive which used 1.7GB/2GB disks, Pinnacle Micro's Apex drive could use 4.2/4.6GB disks, and Maxoptix made drives which could use 900MB/1GB disks. All those types of disk are still available new incidentally, and current Maxoptix drives can read and write the 900MB/1GB disks. There are a few uncommon types which you will rarely come across: - Pioneer make MO drives which are mainly used in medical imaging applications; apparently some CT scanners use Pioneer drives. Drive and media prices for these are quite high, as Pioneer are the only source. There are three types of rewritable MO media for Pioneer drives: 654MB (ISO 10089 Format B), 1.7GB and 2.2GB. - ... and of course the Canon 500MB disks. On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 Jeff Hellige wrote: >> Pinnacle called their drive the REO-650 and in a dual configuration it >> was called an REO-1300. Since I also have an REO-650 and have >> looked inside, I can verify that on the early models, this was the actual >> hardware. Obviously, both the S501 and the REO-650 use the >> identical media. > > I took a look at the Pinnacle drive today and it is a > Pinnacle Micro Sierra Optical Hard Drive with a 1.3gig capacity on > 5-1/4" removable media. Supposedly it is a double-sided cartridge > capable of holding 650Mb per side. It appears to be a standard SCSI > drive, but unfortunately I do not have any of the disks for it. The Sierra is a very nice drive, at least going from the specs; I haven't used one. Perhaps the fastest 1.3GB MO drive: spins at 4500rpm, average seek time 19ms, 4MB cache memory. You can use any 1x (600MB, 650MB) or 2x (1.2GB, 1.3GB) MO disks with it. These can often be found on eBay for a couple of dollars each. 1.2 or 1.3GB disks will give faster data transfer than 600 or 650MB ones. -- Mark

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Apple II CP/M card

by eweidenh1＠hotmail.com

I have an old Apple IIe with a CP/M card. Is there any way of finding a boot disk for this card? Any information on running CP/M on an Apple would be greatly apreciated. Thanks _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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IBM SIMMS question

by cmurillo＠emtelsa.multi.net.co

Can anyone help me identify some odd IBM RAM? I think that this is almost on topic, since the some of the datecodes in these 72 pin SIMMs are from '91. These are made by IBM and apparently were in some RS-6000 machine originally. However, they differ slightly >from normal 72 pin SIMMS in that the key notch is shorter, so that if you try to install this on a normal SIMM socket, the module can't go all the way into the socket. The notch in a normal SIMM is about 6mm long, but the ones in these SIMMs are just 3mm long. All SIMMs have 10 chips. Some have the following sticker: 40 IBM091 4M 80NS E P/N 68X6356 FRU 70F9973 (these have ten IBM chips with the numbers 01G9222, M15075P0) the remaining one says P/N 68X6356 P/N 09G9647 FRU 70F9973 (This one has ten HM514400AS8 chips) So I am guessing that these are 4MB, ECC propietary modules. Can anyone confirm? Or, perhaps I could file a larger notch and use these somewhere else? carlos.

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My emulator stash

by sipke＠wxs.nl

I've decided to put my stash of emulators on my website so the folk of this list can have a peek. Most emulators come >from other sites but some of these have closed down Documentation will be included in the compressed files usually For some a ROM-download may be needed. Have fun! http://xgistor.ath.cx Drill down via: Go Files / Various downloadable files / emulator Sipke de Wal

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Netbooting Apollo Domain [34]x00

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

OK, so umm I'm mildly confused... the machine in question is an actual Apollo, DNxxxx series, correct? What OS are you running, Domain/iX or Domain/UX? What kind of environment are you trying to integrate the machine into? I may be able to help you.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Looking for Query/36

by univac＠earthlink.net

I just picked up an IBM System/36 (5362) yesterday. It works perfectly, and (thankfully) had no password security. It has the Interactive Data Definition Utility, but not Query/36. I was really hoping to use it for something, and I was wondering if anyone has Query/36 on 8" diskettes. I have it on 5.25" disks, but not 8". Also if any one has any of the programming languages (BASIC, COBOL, etc...) I could use those too. Thanks, Owen

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Compaq trade offered

by vcf＠siconic.com

Please reply to original sender. Reply-To: kreativkc(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:20:04 -0800 From: KC Ross <kreativkc(a)aol.com> Subject: VCF Feedback! I have a Compaq 386 PORTABLE, with an external expansion board, orange plasma screen, carry case, and full original documentation. Perfect running condition. I am looking to trade it to someone who can appriciate it, for something else interesting. KC --- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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classiccmp-digest V1 #524 (on RS6000/340)

by kebabthesheep＠yahoo.com

> From: Russ Blakeman <russ(a)rbcs.8m.com> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 1:47 PM > Subject: RE: EBAY - RS/6000 Powerserver 340 > > > > Does Linux/Unix run on the 7012-340 as well or is it strictly AIX? (more > > curious than anything) > > MCA RS6k only run AIX. No Linux support yet and I dont think there ever will > be... > I wouldn't be so sure. There is: http://www.sjdjweis.com/linux/rs6k/ at least, but there appears to be a slot available for porting netbsd to this: http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/#suggested-powerpc i've seem a fair bit of other interest. I have two MCA RS6000s myself, and am interested in working on porting linux/netbsd to it. Unfortunantly I have: a) little knowledge of the hardware b) No way of getting a console - my monitors won't sync on the video signal (I have several types of graphics card available) and serial console doesn't work. I does however boot AIX quite happily c) No time at the moment - maybe in autumn i'll be free I do however have a spare powerstation 340 ( I think - I need to check) as well as many spare memory boards (full populated) spare ram sticks, video boards, cpus, disks, floppies, etc... I'm in the UK, so anybody over here (or in the US/Europe for that matter) needs any of the spare bits, or possibly a complete system - let me know :) Dave. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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RZ,nI: Claude Shannon

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Ohh, so a contemporary of Vannevar Bush, in other words? I may have misspelled his first name, too.. but hey I tried ;p Thanks for the enlightenment Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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NeXT MO disks

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, A question about MO disks and the Canon MO drive installed in some NeXT cube computers. I know NeXT MO disks are single-sided, commonly quoted as having a capacity of 256MB. Canon used to make document imaging systems with built-in 500MB MO drives for data storage. These used double-sided disks of around 250MB per side. They also made the Diskfile 5001S, an external SCSI MO drive. The Diskfile 5001S allowed data from the document imaging systems to be transferred to computer, and also functioned as a general-purpose storage device. I just received a Diskfile 5001S drive. Currently I do not have any disks for this. Two disks will be sent to me eventually. What I would like to know is: can the Diskfile 5001S (and Canofile document imaging systems) read and/or write NeXT MO disks? Not at the file level of course, but at the sector level. Does anyone have a NeXT MO disk which I can borrow? I would like to see whether the Diskfile 5001S can read it. Not having a NeXT computer, the filesystem will not be recognised, but I could use a dd-like utility to (hopefully) obtain an image file of all user sectors. I would keep the disk write-protected. If you can help, please contact me by email. If the 5001S drive is compatible with NeXT disks, it could be useful for people who have NeXT disks but no working NeXT MO drive. -- Mark

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Tatung Einstein disks

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 19, 15:03, DOUG PEKSA - COMPG wrote: > I've had a Tatung Einstein for some time but have no OS to > use with it. Anyone have Xtal/DOS (correct?) for the Einstein > - I've a few spare blank 2nd. user 3.0" disks (ten or more) > to swap for the 3.0" disk(s) supplied with the Einstein. A friend of mine has a working Einstein and thinks he has Xtaldos and possibly another OS (pseudo-CP/M?) for a 40-column system. There was apparently a genuine CP/M version for an 80-column machine, but he doesn't have the 80-column add-on, nor real CP/M. Unfortunately, he's about to go on holiday, so it will be at least a couple of weeks before he can look for disks, but I've saved your mail, and will remind him. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Looking for Query/36

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I've got RPG for the /36. Don't know if that interests you or not? Steve Robertson >From: Owen Robertson <univac(a)earthlink.net> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: Classic Computer Mailing List <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Looking for Query/36 >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:11:53 -0600 > >I just picked up an IBM System/36 (5362) yesterday. It works perfectly, and >(thankfully) had no password security. It has the Interactive Data >Definition Utility, but not Query/36. I was really hoping to use it for >something, and I was wondering if anyone has Query/36 on 8" diskettes. I >have it on 5.25" disks, but not 8". Also if any one has any of the >programming languages (BASIC, COBOL, etc...) I could use those too. > >Thanks, >Owen > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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HP-UX cd update

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

OK, guys. I looked at the box, and it's too confusing for me to list everything here, given that I'm not familiar with the various distros and all the associated patches and stuff (which, I believe, is official terminology....) Therefore, to be fair to everyone, I am proposing that someone who does know what the heck all this is act as librarian and get those bits that are needed to those that need them. I would ship the whole kit'n'kaboodle (again, proper terminology...) to that person, and wash my hands of the whole pile. That way, I don't accidentally mis-describe (I'm on a roll here....) something and send the wrong discs to someone. Sound like a plan? If you're willing to be librarian, email me off-list and we'll work out shipping arrangements. I just want to be helpful..... Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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Wanted: HP Application Notes

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi All, I'm still adding to my collection of HP stuff. One fo the things that I'm looking for are the HP Application Notes, particurly the ones dealing with their computers and calculators. Does anyone have any that they're willing to part with? Joe

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CC-40

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 "James B. DiGriz" wrote: > What I'd like to know is how compatible the Mac NuBus is with the > S1500 implementation. That is, can you take Mac NuBus cards and use them > in an S1500, given Unix drivers for them? Also to this end, which Mac > cards are likely to have driver sources and/or complete technical > specifications available to a peon hacker? Mostly interested in TIGA A Mac I bought some time ago has a ComputerEyes video capture NuBus board, made by Digital Vision. From memory, this contains only standard chips, so it should be relatively easy to reverse-engineer. If anyone knows where to get Mac driver software for this board, *please* let me know. Digital Vision are no longer around. -- Mark

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RZ,nI: Claude Shannon

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Who's that? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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NeXT MO disks

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Mark wrote: >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:22:02 +0000 >From: Mark <mark_k(a)iname.com> >Subject: NeXT MO disks ... >I know NeXT MO disks are single-sided, commonly quoted as having a capacity of >256MB. I have heard of (but not seen) dual-sided NeXT MO disks. 256MB/side, total 512MB, but you have to eject it and physically turn it over to access the other side. I never understood why those existed until now. >What I would like to know is: can the Diskfile 5001S (and Canofile document >imaging systems) read and/or write NeXT MO disks? Interesting question! >Does anyone have a NeXT MO disk which I can borrow? Probably. I definitely have some "bad" disks which my OD can't read, which you can have (and may be able to resurrect with dd or whatever). I may also have a "good" disk not in use at the moment, which I can lend you for experimentation. I'll sort through my pile of OD's and see which I can spare. >If the 5001S >drive is compatible with NeXT disks, it could be useful for people who have >NeXT disks but no working NeXT MO drive. ;-) I like to think I could be useful to such people too. Either by describing how to clean the dirt out of their MO drive (which is often all it needs) or by properly dispositioning their unwanted disks... ;-) - Mark

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HP-UX software site

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I've also been frustrated by the lack of downloadable S800 software. The one notable exception is the Informix site. Seems like most of the packages that I've downloaded from there run without any problem. It took awhile but, I was finally able to compile gcc on a S800 box. For some reason, I was have trouble installing downloaded packages using SWINSTALL so, now I just tar them into the directory that I want. Ever since I've started doing that, the installs are working a lot better. Of course all those failed build attempts have taught me something about the configuration and build procedure which will certainly increase the success rate. I have been able to install most of the other packages from the HPUX site on my 800 series boxes but still have problems with some of the larger apps. In particular the PERL installation is causing me to pull out what's left of my hair.... AARG!!! If anyone needs assistance installing "stuff" on a S800, I'll be glad to assist. Steve Robertson >From: Jarkko Teppo Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: >classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: HP-UX software site Date: Tue, 27 >Feb 2001 13:33:41 +0200 > >On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 01:12:21AM -0800, Mike Ford wrote: > I haven't >really looked this over, but "seems" interesting for HP-UX fans > >http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/ (its a mirror of a UK site). > >Too bad it's mostly s700 :) Finding s300/s400 packages can be a pain, and >if you don't have the aCC compiler or gcc you're normally out of luck. >Combine this with the fact that trying to compile gcc with the standard >compiler is ,mildly put, interesting.. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Popular Computing on eBay for $150+

by mnadeau＠editservices.com

These issues aren't really that rare: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1215791412 Michael Nadeau Editorial Services 603-893-2379

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DEC option identification

by broth＠heathers.stdio.com

I have a DEC backplane that accompanied a TU56 that is tagged as a PA68F. Does anyone know what this is? Brian.

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QVT103 terminal

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Well, if it is similar to the QVT-102, then I have the manual for the '102, and if that'd be helpful... I don't think that the two models are very different really... The QVT-102's that I have came with my 3B2, yuck, I really am desiring genuine AT&T/Teletype video terminals. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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osborne manuals

by aek＠spies.com

I've been getting lots of mail like this since I was slashdotted.. I'll forward this to the list as appropriate -al --- From: "Donald R. Resor" <}{ammond(a)theatreorgans.com> To: <aek(a)spies.com> Subject: Osborne 1 books and software Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:52:48 -0800 Organization: Tone Wheel & Tone Cabinet Svc. Co. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-MDRcpt-To: aek(a)spies.com X-MDRemoteIP: 64.200.10.148 X-Return-Path: }{ammond(a)theatreorgans.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aek(a)spies.com Hello, I have a couple user reference manuals for the Osborne 1, one is spiral bound and the other ring bound. I also have a couple boxes of floppies with assorted software for this system. Interested? I believe the Osborne 1 was pre 1980. Thanks Donald R. Resor Jr. Tone Wheel & Tone Cabinet Svc. Co. Los Angeles, California http://go.to/tonewheels

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EBAY - RS/6000 Powerserver 340

by russ＠rbcs.8m.com

In case anyone is interested I have a model 340 type 7012-340 server on ebay at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1217407642

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Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts

by optimus＠canit.se

McFadden, Mike skrev: >Aren't there TECO commands that perform these or similar functions. One of few impressive features in the Atari ST is the UNDO key, next to the HELP key. It's a miracle that when they decided to revise the PC keyboard, they decided to add three bloody (useless) Windows keys instead of real useful keys such as CUT, COPY, PASTE, UNDO, HELP OR COMMAND. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Hackers do it with fewer instructions.

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QVT103 terminal

by eric-no-spam-for-me＠brouhaha.com

Stan Barr wrote: > I have a Qume QVT103 terminal (I'm using with the E11 PDP emulator running > on an old 486) - does anyone know how to program the PF1-4 keys? At the > moment they try to run some non-existent commands ;-( Jerome Fine <jhfine(a)idirect.com> writes: > Something is wrong here. Assuming that the QVT103 is the same as a DEC > VT103, It's not even similar. It's just a dumb terminal.

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TI Microexplorer software/info wanted for web page

by dannydz＠mailandnews.com

Hi all! I have a TI Microexplorer machine, which is a Mac II with a TI Explorer nubus LISP coprocessor card installed. You may see a picture of my LISP card at http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/da/dannydz/explorer.jpg I obtained the machine from my university's surplus sale. Original price about US$14,999. Configuration: 5 MB RAM, two 800K disk drives, 80 MB hard drive. It dates from 1988. There is no web site or existing software archive on the entire internet about this machine, so I want to make one. I have a copy of the software, which came with the machine on its hard drive, but it doesn't work. My machine was infected by nVIR B and had some hard drive corruption when I got it. I can arrange to trade software with anyone. I have a fast FTP site available. The compressed archive is quite big, because the card has its own 18 MB virtual drive file. I also have a copy of Coral Macintosh Allegro Common Lisp 1.3.1 which is the predecessor to MCL (Macintosh Common Lisp). I also have CLIPS version 4.30, a product of the A.I. division of NASA, Johnson Space Center http://www.ghg.net/clips/CLIPS.html If you know anyone with a copy of the Microexplorer software or can give me any leads, I would be grateful. I've already sent emails to the individuals who previously posted to ClassiCmp about this machine. I will eventually make a complete website for this card and arrange for some mirrors. I asked in news:comp.sys.ti.explorer but haven't received a response yet. thanks, Daniel Vancouver, BC, CANADA

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Neat find: Maxx Steele Robot

by salgueir＠club-internet.fr

Bonjour je possède un robot maxx qui fonctionne il ne me manque que le chargeur je le vends 15000fr soit 2200 dollards si interessé mail me :-)))

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QVT103 terminal

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>Jerome Fine replies: > >Something is wrong here. Assuming that the QVT103 is the same as a DEC >VT103, then what you have is a real PDP-11 (limited of course to a VERY >small backplane and power supply) along with the equivalent of a VT100. DEC VT103 was a PDP-11 based smart terminal. However there was a VT103 varient that was just a souped up VT100. Anywho Qume never did a PDP-11 based machine only knock offs of the VT100 and VT200 terminals lines. >If you have taken out the PDP-11 boards from the QVT103 backplane - or >just left them there and are using the QVT103 as a terminal running under >E11 on a 486, then you also don't say how the QVT103 is connected to the >PC - via a COM port? These details are important since they clarify the >system you are using. E11 is an emulator, so I bet he's running QVT (windows VT100/200 terminal emulator). There were many variations of the QVT program. Allison

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QVT103 terminal

by stanb＠dial.pipex.com

Hi, I have a Qume QVT103 terminal (I'm using with the E11 PDP emulator running on an old 486) - does anyone know how to program the PF1-4 keys? At the moment they try to run some non-existent commands ;-( -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb(a)dial.pipex.com The future was never like this!

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Various bits available

by djg＠drs-esg.com

Work had the following on the to dumpster table, they will be gone Monday morning. If anybody wants the following let me know. You pay shipping plus $5 for dealing with it. All equipment given away as is. Most worked when removed from service but any dead units they had were probably stuck in the same pile. If you wish more than one of an item let me know how many you want. On the off chance that I have more takers the one that offers PDP-8 stuff in trade gets it. Email me directly by 9am Monday if you are interested. TRS80 Model 100 In black case, no other accessories or options. Seems to work when I put batteries in. Decserver 200/MC (DECNet terrminal server, used with our vax, have several) DEC DELNI (AUI bridge) DEC LA30N printer (have several) DEC LA75 printer DEC LQP02 printer DEC LK201 keyboard (have two) Okidata 321 printer HP Thinlan hub 28692A 10B2 (thin coax) hub Multitech Statistical Muxes MM904C/96 4 port with v.29 9600 bps modem and 4 port upgrade (have 2) MMH3232C 32 port with 64k Multitech leased line modem MT1932BC, up to 19.2k These were around when I took inventory at lunch but I didn't see them when I left. Somebody else probably grabbed them but if you had your heart set on one I will check further. Infocus 480. 8 shade grey scale 640x480 LCD to put on overhead In box with some manuals cables etc Gridcase 1550sx. Computers seem to work, one no display, other screen doesn't sync properly so is not readable. Data General one David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computers with blinkenlights

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Northstar disk controller family tree

by frustum＠pacbell.net

I'm starting work on adding support for a Northstar disk controller to my Sol emulator program. Before I start writing code, I figured I'd see if anybody could clarify the relationship of the various Northstar disk controller boards I have either seen on ebay or I've seen mentioned on the web: 1) "Micro-Disk System MDS-A" 2) "MICRO-DISK MDS-A-D DOUBLE DENSITY" (I have the manual to this) 3) MDS-AD2 4) MDC-A2 5) MDC-A3 6) MDC-A4 (I have one of these but haven't tried it yet) ... and others? I assume that #3 is just a different name for #2. How do they compare? Does anybody have programming/technical docs for the ones that I don't have? If it isn't a stretch (and I'd assume it isn't, since they are all from Northstar), I would like to add support for the other disk controllers, but without the docs that won't happen. My real Sol has a "Micro Complex Phase Lock II" disk controller in it, which is compatible with the MDS-AD2 (I think) [ single/double density disk controller ]. I also have an MDC-A4 board, but no docs on it, so I haven't played with it. Thanks for any information, code, tips, vague recollections... ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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Northstar disk controller family tree

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jim Battle <frustum(a)pacbell.net> >anybody could clarify the relationship of the various Northstar disk >controller boards I have either seen on ebay or I've seen mentioned on the web: > > 1) "Micro-Disk System MDS-A" > 2) "MICRO-DISK MDS-A-D DOUBLE DENSITY" (I have the manual to this) > 3) MDS-AD2 > 4) MDC-A2 > 5) MDC-A3 > 6) MDC-A4 (I have one of these but haven't tried it yet) > ... and others? Ok, there are only two different controllers there. The single density MDS-An {single density} and the MDS-ADn{dual density}. The MDS-AD does both single density and double where the original MDS-A only can do single. The numeric variation stand for minor board variations. If you compare carefully you will see in the MDS-A series that some do not do all the pads for the etched edge connector. They are identical otherwise. >How do they compare? Does anybody have programming/technical docs for the >ones that I don't have? If it isn't a stretch (and I'd assume it isn't, There are only two sets of docs to worry about. They are common enough. I have both likely other do, copying them is problematic for me at this time {the extreme lack of}. >since they are all from Northstar), I would like to add support for the >other disk controllers, but without the docs that won't happen. The only other controller is in the NS* Advantage, uses the same basic design and read the same medias. >My real Sol has a "Micro Complex Phase Lock II" disk controller in it, Never heard of it. Allison

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[oldcalcs] Intel old chips

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I thought this might be of interest to this list. Joe>From: "James Redin" <james(a)dotpoint.com> >Subject: [oldcalcs] Intel old chips > >Dear friends, > >I posted today in the Album section of my Website some pictures provided by >Stanley Mazor, the co-inventor of the microprocessor, showing the internals >of the early Intel chips. The pictures may be accessed as follows: > >VINTAGE CALCULATORS --> ELECTRONIC --> ALBUM --> "I" for Intel. > >As an interesting historical detail, one of the pictures is a photo of an >old Intel towel souvenir designed by Mr. Shima while he was working for >Intel during the development of the early micro-processors. It has on it >the circuit schematic (transistor level) for the MCS-4 (4004) 4-bit adder >and accumulator. It is also posted in the Album along with some comments >from Mr. Mazor. > >While there, you may want to read the article: > >The History of the Microcomputer - Invention and Evolution - by Stanley >Mazor, > >posted in the Articles section. > > >James Redin >The X-Number World >http://www.dotpoint.com/xnumber >mailto:james@dotpoint.com > > > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-~> >eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups >Click here for more details >http://us.click.yahoo.com/kWP7PD/pYNCAA/4ihDAA/gWadlB/TM >---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> > >To Post a message, send it to: oldcalcs(a)eGroups.com >To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: oldcalcs-unsubscribe(a)eGroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

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Wicat 68000 based system ...

by optimus＠canit.se

William S. Morgart skrev: > Thanks but unless the docs are hardware related like at the device >programming level they're probably of not much use to me since I intend (or >would like to) use it as a base 68k platform ... ie put another OS on it.. I'm going to be nosy and direct: what OS? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. We have support for the PMAGC-B's on pmax right? That is a PixelVision based card right? I see Bt 463, that chip looks bigger than the 21164! Just looking at it makes me want to write an Xserver! Chris Tribo, NetBSD/pmax

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Sun keyboard cable? Straight thru?

by optimus＠canit.se

Claude.W skrev: >Perhaps you have seen my messages on starting up a sparc2. I am a sun >newbie.... ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> Not to mention a newbie in general... -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. And don't tell me there isn't one bit of difference between null and space, because that's exactly how much difference there is. :-) --Larry Wall in <10209(a)jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>

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[dave@farber.net: IP: Can anyone help?]

by ecloud＠bigfoot.com

Please reply to Mr. Galler. ----- Forwarded message from David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> ----- To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com From: David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> Subject: IP: Can anyone help? >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:41:01 -0500 (EST) >X-Sender: galler(a)g.imap.itd.umich.edu >To: Interesting.People(a)umich.edu >From: "Bernard A. Galler" <galler(a)umich.edu> >Subject: IP: Can anyone help? >Cc: farber(a)linc.cis.upenn.edu, paint26(a)cwo.com > >A member of my family, now deceased, left his memoirs on what are described >to me as large AppleWriter disks, and we would like to retrieve the >contents. Does anyone know where we could get the contents converted to >more modern media? Thank you. >Bernie Galler > > > >Bernard A. Galler >E-mail: galler(a)umich.edu >Fax: 734-668-9998 For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- _______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud(a)bigfoot.com (_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd(a)kb7pwd.ampr.org __) | | \________________________________________________________________

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Sun keyboard cable? Straight thru?

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi Perhaps you have seen my messages on starting up a sparc2. I am a sun newbie.... Should the mini din8 cable to the keyboard be straight thru or have some pins crossed over? I opened up the type5 keyboard I have connected (sparc2 does not ID the keyboard...) and checked the 74LS06 chip where the rx-tx should be coming thru and I feel the chip heating up...abnormaly... Something tells me my cable to the keyboard may have the wrong config...Its not an original SUN one... I found the pinout for the keyboard but what about the connector at the sparc2 end...??? Claude

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Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Aren't there TECO commands that perform these or similar functions. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts?

by eric-no-spam-for-me＠brouhaha.com

"Edwin P. Groot" <epgroot(a)ucdavis.edu> writes: > A thought occured to me as I was trying to figure out setting up > X-Windows to use certain editing shortcuts: > ^Z = Undo > ^X = Cut > ^C = Copy > ^V = Paste ;how the ^H^H^H^H does a v represent insert text from cut > buffer? > These are ubiquitous now in Windows programs, but who came up with > this group of editing shortcuts that cluster so neatly on the bottom left > of the keyboard, right by the Ctrl key back in the early micros? The Apple Lisa, introduced in January 1983. It wasn't the control key, though. It was the Apple key. But the principle's the same.

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Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts?

by epgroot＠ucdavis.edu

A thought occured to me as I was trying to figure out setting up X-Windows to use certain editing shortcuts: ^Z = Undo ^X = Cut ^C = Copy ^V = Paste ;how the ^H^H^H^H does a v represent insert text from cut buffer? These are ubiquitous now in Windows programs, but who came up with this group of editing shortcuts that cluster so neatly on the bottom left of the keyboard, right by the Ctrl key back in the early micros? My bets are Microsoft stole it from Apple. I don't recall this from WordStar, with its myriad of Ctrl key combinations. One problem with ^C in CP/M and DOS is they would promptly take you to the OS prompt from most programs. Regards, Edwin

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Sun type5 keyboard on Sparc2

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 22, Claude.W wrote: > I got the Sparc2 a few weeks ago and cant get it to see the type5 keyboard I have to try it out with. > > I only have that one keyboard to test this so I don't know if there is a problem with the keyboard, sparc2, or its just that a type5 does not work on a sparc2. > > When I power on the keyboard, the leds flash on the keyboard (power ok to keyboard) , but I get a message on the sparc it cant ID the keyboard. > > I am suspecting the serial line trans/receiver chips for the keyboard serial line maybe have gone bad on the sparc, is that a frequent failure? Ill probe with a scope if I have to... That's not a frequent failure. I'd suspect a toasty keyboard. Can you get your hands on a different one to try? (The type5 works just fine on ss2s.) -Dave McGuire

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Wicat 68000 based system ...

by morgarws＠molbio.sbphrd.com

I've got one (S-1255 about the size of a 2 drawer file cabinet)! But I've got no documentation on it or on any of its multibus boards. Does anybody have any info on it (or any 68k based wicat hardware)? Regards, Bill Morgart morgarws(a)molbio.sbphrd.com

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IBM 6360 8 inch drive

by foxvideo＠wincom.net

Does anyone have any information on the type 6360 drive? It was originally part of a word processor. It has one 37 pin female DB, one 25 pin male DB and AC. Thanks Charlie Fox Chas E. Fox Video Productions 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor ON N8Y 3J8 foxvideo(a)wincom.net Check out: The Old Walkerville Virtual Museum at http://skyboom.com/foxvideo and Camcorder Kindergarten at http://chasfoxvideo.com

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8080 Complier Recommendation

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Dick: Indeed. I'd prefer to stick with the Intel nemonics since the source files that I have to compile, er, assemble, use the Intel nemonics. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 2:39 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 8080 Complier Recommendation The mnemonics are quite different for the Z80, though. I think he wants to stick with the Intel mnemonics, which are quite different from Zilog's and which some folks find somewhat easier to decipher. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin P. Groot" <epgroot(a)ucdavis.edu> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: Re: 8080 Complier Recommendation > Are you talking about an ::assembler::? If so, Z-80 doesn't matter as > an assembler for the 8080, since Z-80 is a superset of 8080. Just don't use > the Z-80 - specific opcodes. TASM reminds me of Borland Turbo Assembler. > With regards to a higher-level language compiler, there might be > directives to specify 8080 or Z-80 opcodes in the object file. > > Edwin > > At 16:02 2/22/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello, all: > > > > Does anyone have a "favorite" compiler recommendation for the 8080? > >I have TASM, which I like for the 6502, but it only does the Z80, which has > >different opcodes. Thanks. > > > >Rich Cini > >

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8080 Complier Recommendation

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: Does anyone have a "favorite" compiler recommendation for the 8080? I have TASM, which I like for the 6502, but it only does the Z80, which has different opcodes. Thanks. Rich Cini http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/

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8080 Complier Recommendation

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Dick: I misspoke. I do indeed need an assembler. I had just finished using VC++ when I wrote that email :-) Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:03 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 8080 Complier Recommendation First of all, TASM isn't a compiler is it? The versions of TASM I have are a set of table-driven assemblers for a number of microcontrollers and microprocessors. I personally like the CP/M (Digital Research) MASM assembler, which I've had since Christ was a corporal and I use it under the Z80MU CP/M emulator, though that's not a requirement. You could, of course use any of a number of CP/M emulators, of which I imagine almost all CP/M-ers have at least two favorites. If you're looking for a compiler that supports the 8080, you need an older version of AZTEC 'C' (assuming that compiler means 'C' compiler to you) which is very similar, I'm told, to the CC65 for the 6502. There are, of course, countless others. One notable free compiler is the HiTech (Pacific) 'C' compiler for the Z80, of which there's also a free version for the PC. Most of the oldies are written to the K & R vision of 'C' rather than ANSI, which didn't have a standard back in the '80's. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: "'ClassCompList'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: 8080 Complier Recommendation > Hello, all: > > Does anyone have a "favorite" compiler recommendation for the 8080? > I have TASM, which I like for the 6502, but it only does the Z80, which has > different opcodes. Thanks. > > Rich Cini > http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ > >

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HP Laserjet Series II

by Jeffrey.Earl＠noaa.gov

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Sun type5 keyboard on Sparc2

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 22, Mike Ford wrote: > My "guess" is the type 5 is just too new for a 2. Oh good grief. I've used type5 keyboards on Sun3/50s. -Dave McGuire

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HP-UX cd's...a partial list

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Here's a partial list of what I've got.... These are all for Series 800: Apps for HP-UX 9.0 Core OS 9.04 Support & Install 9.04 These I'm not sure right now: Docs v. 10.x Extensions Date 3726 Extensions Date 3710, 3620 Apps for 10.2 date 3710 Apps ('96) for 9.0 Clintrial 3.3.2 Core OS 10.20 for 700/800 Apps from '98 These are just from the scribbled notes I have. I will try to make a full, detailed list Monday night and then we can figure out how best to distribute them. I've had quite a few responses, and I want to see everyone have a chance. Basically, I just want people to like me...;o) I'm thinking the disk sharing idea is good. I don't know if you can do a direct copy of one of these....would Easy-CD see it as just an audio cd and copy it accordingly? That would be a project for someone other than me. Talk to you Monday. Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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Sun type5 keyboard on Sparc2

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi I got the Sparc2 a few weeks ago and cant get it to see the type5 keyboard I have to try it out with. I only have that one keyboard to test this so I don't know if there is a problem with the keyboard, sparc2, or its just that a type5 does not work on a sparc2. When I power on the keyboard, the leds flash on the keyboard (power ok to keyboard) , but I get a message on the sparc it cant ID the keyboard. I am suspecting the serial line trans/receiver chips for the keyboard serial line maybe have gone bad on the sparc, is that a frequent failure? Ill probe with a scope if I have to... Also I have a mouse model4 (or type 4?) can the special mouse pad for these be substituted by something else? Claude

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$3551 Sol???

by bills＠adrenaline.com

Ok, I'm stumped. I bought a Sol on ebay back in September for $385.16 including shipping and insurance. I think the one I got is in better shape and it has a lower serial number. Why did this one go for so much? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1201894666&ed=9771987 70 Bill

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HP-UX cd's

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

To answer several questions, there are roughly two dozen cd's, including several dupes. I'll try to get a full list Monday night, and I'll post it then. There should be enough to go around, plus Clint offerred to use what he needed and then pass them on....so everybody should get a chance. I'll get back to you Monday night (that's the next time I'll be at the shop.) Paul Braun nerdware(a)laidbak.com Visit NerdWare on the Web at www.laidbak.com/nerdware

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Usenet archives

by jfoust＠threedee.com

In the past I've expressed my desire for a complete and better archive of Usenet news. I mentioned Michael Stutz <stutz(a)dsl.org> who wanted the same thing. He's composed a web page about it, including the latest Deja/Google news. See his rough notes at http://dsl.org/comp/archives.shtml . He has a nice collection of links to the sprinkling of news archives throughout the net. There's hope yet! In other news: http://slashdot.org/articles/01/02/22/0124253.shtml http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,41926,00.html - John

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A couple of Bondwell 2 questions

by j.cammell＠xtra.co.nz

In reply to the question about the Bondwell 2. I also have the Bondwell 2 and most of the software and manuals. If it was not you who asked the original question can you refer me to the author. Regards Jack

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Last OT re; Mail

by jpl15＠panix.com

Bruce - *panix* is on your List? I was under the impression that the Panix gang were pretty conscientious and not generally known as Tolerators of Junque Poste. And yes, all my replies to your recent e-mail direct to me have bounced, but (italics) it takes a day of retries before finally being rejected for good. (/italics). Sigh. Cure worse than Malady? I dunno... Cheerz (and thanx for the update) John

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Wisconin (sic) area collectors wanted for media story

by jfoust＠threedee.com

She wants someone in a particular part of 'Sconsin, no less: At 03:30 PM 2/21/01 -0600, "Scott, Stefanie" <SScott(a)smgpo.gannett.com> wrote: >Thanks for the e-mail. I'm actually looking for someone in the Northeastern >Wisconsin areas: we cover Steven's Point, Marshfield, Fond du Lac, Appleton, >Oshkosh, Green Bay, Wausau, Wisconsin Rapids, Sheboygan and Manitowoc and >their surrounding areas. If you know of anyone from these areas, that would >help. - John

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Brief OT: Mail server blocks

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

John Lawson may have run into this, so I figured I'd better let the rest of the group know as well. When I took over server operations for our domain (bluefeathertech) earlier this year, the mail servers were installed with some pretty potent anti-spam features. Among these are the fact that they'll reject any mail >from (1), systems listed as open SMTP inputs on ORBS; And (2), any system listed in the MAPS RBL. I suspect the reason John paged me on the group is because his ISP's mail boxes were not able to connect to mine because one or more of them may be listed as noted above. With that in mind, I would like to let the group know that I do have a backup address: wd6eos <at> hamsnet dot net. This can be used for any situation where you're not able to reach me through the bluefeathertech domain. Thanks much. We now return to our regularly scheduled core memory plane. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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