- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

Does anyone have any spare 2114 (or alternative pin compatible 1KBx4) SRAM chips hanging about doing nothing useful? I have a PET 2001 with one blown chip, and neither Farnell nor RS do them any more :( Cheers! Ade. -- B-Racing: B where it's at :-) http://www.b-racing.co.uk

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installing VMS

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

You need release media that supports your VAX. In this case either 5.5H4 or 6.x VMS. Once you have the appropriate media, then you can stick it into the CD and boot Standalone backup from the disk, then type: BACKUP/IMAGE/VERYFIY DKAxxx:VMS06x.B/SAVE DKAyyy: which will copy the first part of the install from the CD (DKAxxx:) on to the disk (DKAyyy:) When that finishes boot that disk and continue by following the prompts. --Chuck At 08:49 PM 8/31/01 -0400, you wrote: >I had originally planned to install VMS 5.5-2 from a CD I'vfe had kicking

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Hey Tony -- I wrote: > > I considered that but don't know of any way to consistently get heads to > > crash in such a controlled manner as to be useable musically (i.e., makes > > pretty much the same sound every time). > > > > Do you? Tony replied: > If I was mad enough to attempt this, Is this your opinion of my state of mind? ;>) > I'd record the sound of a head > crash, and then replay it as necessary. Either digitally (whereupon you > could vary the pitch, etc I believe) or on good old analogue tape, and > then fiddle with the speed on playback if necessary). Sure, I can record to my hard drive and then manipulate the resultant file in all sorts of ways. But I want to "play" the device -- like a musical instrument -- for at least a few dozen times in order to gain some control over the sound which is produced. Ideally I want to write a program to crash the heads so that I can play the drive the same way I push the buttons on a printer to obtain certain sounds. Let's say I take an ST-225 and a WD controller and stick them in a PC and I want the heads to bang out a rhythm, then screech to a halt. Any suggestions? Glen 0/0

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

This is fantastic -- thanks for sharing. Being a musician, this conjures up all sorts of ideas for using computer sounds to make music. I have a recording studio hung off my main non-classic box, so I can add this to my List of Unfinished Projects. Some useable sounds might be: (printers, of course) hard drive spinup & chatter crt charge & discharge floppy drive stepper motors ps fans cpu cooling fans cd drives (opening, closing, and spinning) scanner sounds tape drives ASR 33s PAC readers card readers So what did I miss (classic or non)? Glen 0/0 ---------- > From: James Carter <james(a)cs.york.ac.uk> > > i don't know whether this has been sent to the list before, but it > tickled me. most of the "performers" appear to be classic, so it is on > topic. > > http://www.sat.qc.ca/the_user/dotmatrix/en/intro.html

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 3, Bill Bradford wrote: > > > Do you mean gas discharge (like the Sumlock Compucorp on my desk with a > > > Panaplex display), or vacuum fluorescent (the green displays used on a > > > number of 1970's hand-held calculators)? > > Probably vacuum fluorescent. Gas-discharge would be more like Nixies, right? > > Speaking of, kinda related, anybody know where I can get one of the > 21" DEC orange gas plasma displays? I forget the model number right > now, but I've been looking for one of them for quite a while... It's called a VRE01. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

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HELP on Laserjet Plus error code 60

by harryb＠charter.net

I am getting a blinking 60 on the panel of my trusty Lasjet Plus printer. Was attempting to set up a parallel port scanner, and plugged the printer on passthru. This is on a W2K system (sorry guys). Scanner no work, and error code started. Have re-installed driver, plugged printer back in direct, but still get error code. No help on printer or HP web sites, cause unit is too old (like its owner). Has someone got docs, or a link to the user manual ? Any hints welcome. Harry

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Nabu Computers Available...

by hardwire＠ptd.net

This might be of interest to somebody here (hopefully)... Surplus Traders (www.73.com) currently has 35 Nabu computers for $29.00 a pop, plus shipping. Normally they do bulk sales, but they will sell the Nabu individually. (Search for item CR356.) I picked one up a while ago, and mine was still 'new', in the box, with a factory seal. Then again, since this surplus, it might be best to verify that the units are 'new' if that's important to you. Unfortunately, I haven't really toyed with the Nabu hardware too much (yet), and if anyone else has, I'd love to hear about it. Either way, these machines are certainly an interesting part of computing history. Here's a small blurb about the Nabu: http://ieee.ca/millennium/telidon/telidon_nabu.html

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Altair benchmark

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hi: I came across a very simple benchmark program that I'd like to use in comparing the speed of a real Altair to that of the Altair32 emulator: org 0 start: ei lxi b,0 ; inner loop = 65536 times mvi d,50 ; outer loop = 50 times loop: push b ; this is just to increase the instruction count push d push h push psw pop psw pop h pop d pop b dcx b mov a,b ora c ; done with inner loop? jnz loop ; if not, keep going dcr d ; do this 50 times jnz loop hlt ; done with speed test end start I would appreciate it if someone with an Altair could put this in and time, in seconds, how long it takes to perform this test. I already know that the Altair32 is painfully slow, primarily because of the graphics routines used to draw the front panel LEDs. Disabling LED updating improves the speed greatly. Doing this, unfortunately, results in you have a Turnkey system... Thanks to all. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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Must be a typo!

by benwarden＠earthlink.net

Don't smoke - corrected the typo, and sold it for $14.98 on 4 May 1999 Bennie R Warden - Bookseller 39 South Alhambra Lane 561.878.9645 Port Saint Lucie FL 34952-2832 VISA - Master Card - Discover/Novus - Check/MO

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DEC Design

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jerome Fine <jhfine(a)idirect.com> >Do you mean the TU-58? I am looking for one!! I have one that does not >work and I want to replace the bad part. The rollers are OK. This is >the external TU-58 with two drives in a black box. Does anyone have one? >Even if it is not working, perhaps I can cut and paste. Err what part are you looking for so it could possibly be found? I have one of the external TU-58s, no I'm not scrapping it. Allison

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TRS-80 Model III and Model 12 have to go....

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

I had mentioned these before, but unfortunately dumped the email by accident..... I have a Model III complete with software and Model 12 with 2 external hard drives and keyboard. I assume they work (at least the Model III had worked the last time the donor who gave it to me used it....) I'm in Northwest Indiana, about 40 minutes East of Chicago. These are too big and bulky for me to deal with packing and shipping....I would prefer that they be picked up. I'm never gonna get around to playing with them, and they are taking up a huge amount of shelf space that I need for other things. I don't want to scrap 'em....but I would like them gone by the end of the month. I've already done my big Tandy display at the local library, and I realized just how bulky they are when I tried to shoehorn 'em into my Impreza.....I'm sticking with smaller stuff from now on. Ok, the Lisa II is and exception. ;o) Please. Give these a good home. Thanks. Please contact me off-list and we can arrange something Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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TRS80 Model III broken wire puzzle

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, My gf brought me back said TRS80 MIII (16K model, no floppies) from her trip to New Jersey a couple of weeks ago, surprisingly it's a 240V model. Anyway, it suffered the usual airport baggage handling 'techniques' and the VDU broke away from its mountings. Fortunately the neck hasn't broken so it should be salvageable unless there's a hairline crack somewhere I've missed. Anyway, I've glued everything back in place and it's whole again; however there's 1 wire that's broken free from *somewhere* on the screen itself but I can't see where. It's black and goes to a post marked E306 on the VDU board that's normally screwed to the left hand side of the case. E306 itself is part of the grounding circuit, so have any of you TRS80 III owners got the schematics for the VDU circuit? Thanks in advance, -- adrian/witchy www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - The online Computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly Gothic shenanigans

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Would anybody like these?

by fernande＠internet1.net

Free + shipping costs -Teac 1.2meg 5.25" floppy drive -DOS Customized, by David Busch.... it's a Brady book, nice shape -Simpson Microamperes round gauge, maybe 2.5", glass loose, 0 to 200 Microamps, direct current, fairly old... neat, but I don't know what to do with it :-) -Seagate ST-4053 with microchannel controller, drive needs to be low-leveled, but I don't know how. it's from an IBM Model 60 -full height bezel for Seagate ST-225, from a XT or PC -5.25" half height mounting bracket for IBM optical drive, 74F8785, from an external IBM drive case Model 3510, but I think it'll fit into a Model 77. -Power supply, it's from a piece of VME scrap I bought on Ebay, it wasn't what I thought it was, so I am recycling it. I figured someone might want the power supply. It's an ACDC Electronics unit. will do 5volts at 20 amps and +-5 volts at 2 amps. Has 3 output blocks (sets of terminals at +-5 volts) and a larger pair that must be the 12 volts. Huge heat sink. Model RT101-3 115VAC input. It's about the size of an AT power supply, but with the heatsink sticking out... no fan. Please reply privately. Thanks, Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Yet Another Board Cleaning Thread

by jss＠subatomix.com

Well, all, it's time for me to clean boards for the first time. After doing a practice run on a nonessential board, it will be time to begin on the KA11 and friends found inside my PDP-11/20. I've done some research already, but several questions remain. I'd like to get answers to them and have some comments over my tentative cleaning methods. First, let's talk about fluids. It's been a while since I took a chemistry class. Questions: * Is there no difference between 'isopropanol', 'isopropyl alcohol', and 'propan-2-ol'? * Are there any better fluids (methanol?) for certain situations? * Can I find these at a hardware store? * Is there anything I should look out for when using those fluids? That is, is there anything (glue?) they can damage? My most important question deals with core stacks. Most of the board cleaning info I've found steers clear of core. This is unfortuante, as my core is not immune from dust and grime. What I have are H207s, each consisting of a quad-width G616 and a smaller G617 daughterboard. The small space between these boards is exceptionally dirty. My current plan for cleaning them is: (0) Leave the two board assembleds; disassembly would likely cause breakage. (1) Blow canned air over the assembly and through the inter-board space. (2) Dip and swish the assembly in isopropyl alcohol. (3) Blow air over the boards with an unheated hair dryer or more canned air. (4) If the assembly is still dirty, go to step (2). I've got more cleaning subjects to learn about, but in the interest of keeping the discussion more focused, I'll ask about them later. As always, I'm extremely grateful for all help that comes my way. -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)subatomix.com

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PDP 11/34 work party

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

Well this is the weekend that I'll try and get the PDP 11/34 running as well as the AS400's in the garage. Anyone who will be in the Ottawa area is welcome to come and help. I'd like to see some signs of life before packing the magnetic media into the basement for the winter. Mike Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)

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Who neded that DEC BA440 power supply?

by fernande＠internet1.net

I deleted your email. Did you find one? I have an extra, from a R400X, but am not sure how to test it. Would $20 plus shipping be appropriate? Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Stupid Powersupply question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Subject says it all. If I've got a StorageWorks shelf with a 150W Powersupply, I don't draw 150W do I? I simply draw the sum of the number of disks in the shelf. Trying to see if I've got this down right as I need to add some disks and the cost of power is going up again. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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DEC rack header plates

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody know a source of DEC rack header panels (the maroon/red ones) with or without logo, or for the black "cover panels"? I've got a maroon/red pdp11 header panel, and a "blank" maroon/red one, but not the black panels to cover the rest of the cabinet.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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New Finds on the first day of a long weekend

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Spent most of the day hunting at flea markets and a few thrift stores and this what I have so far: 1. Felt & Tarrant Comptometer missing two key covers but otherwise OK. 2. TI Dataman and manual 3. Several mousepads for that part of the collection. 4. The VMS User's Guide by James F. Peters and Patrick J. Holmay 5. Heathkit Student Workbook on Microprocessors And many more to new to list here yet. Have a fun holiday to all and keep computing.

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NOTICE FROM THE LIST HOST -- a vote in favor of limited moderation

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>There are three things that need to be corrected on this list: > >- off topic volume is way too high >- we need to eliminate insults, personal attacks, and language that is >obviously intended to offend >- subject lines need to correctly identify the content of the message when >the topic has drifted Personal attacks, insults, and incorrect subject lines are symtoms of the underlying problem which is OT posts. We're all adults here. Let's take it upon ourselves to correct the problem and move forward. It's pretty simle really: 1.) The list "owner" should make rule(s) about how the list is run. 2.) Anyone that wants to participate in the list must follow the rules. That's all... This does not need to be a democratic process. Anyone that doesn't like the rules or won't comply, can start their own damned list. My $.02 SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Don't forget pen plotters hamering the pen down on to the paper, sirring > steppers, ... > load and unload of removable media (MOD, ...) > and the pumps of the water cooling... > modems and acoustic couplers > beepers (in terminals) > typing on a keyboard (with micro switchs) > power and other switches > start up sounds (Apple, SGI) > opening and closing enclosures > roling enclosures (with wheels) around Thanks for these very fine suggestions! I can also use the tape-loading sounds from my ZX81 and TS2068! Glen 0/0

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Unibus/QBus boards available FT

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I dont currently have a system that I can use these in, so I'd like to trade them for LSI-11 stuff, DEC rack pieces/parts/header panels, or ham radio-related equipment. If you can help me ID the couple of boards I couldnt find in the field guide, please do. H215 (core! qty. 2) 8-Kword 18-bit (parity) (used in MM11-LP, ME15) M7850 Parity board for G651, MS11-EP/FP/HP/JP M920 (qty. 2) UNIBUS connector G727A Grant continuity card G231E (Qty. 3) 16K XY Selection, Current source, Address Latch, 8K Decode. G109 ("CONTROL AND DATA LOOPS" ?) ???? ("16K MOS UNIBUS MEMORY") M9760 ? M957 ? bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Altair benchmark

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Richard A. Cini, Jr. <rcini(a)optonline.net> org 0 start: 4 ei 10 lxi b,0 ; inner loop = 65536 times 7 mvi d,50 ; outer loop = 50 times ;;; one time setup 21 cycles (10.5 uS) loop: 11 push b ; this is just to increase the instruction count 11 push d 11 push h 11 push psw 10 pop psw 10 pop h 10 pop d 10 pop b 5 dcx b 5 mov a,b 4 ora c ; done with inner loop? 10 jnz loop ; if not, keep going Main loop 108 cycles, 8080A JNZ is 10 tcy pass or fail condition. 65536*108=7077888cy (3.538944 sec)... assuming one wait state per memory access the 108 becomes 138cy, 65536*138=9043968cy (4.521 sec) this adds 15cy or 7.5us to the loop 50 times. 5 dcr d ; do this 50 times 10 jnz loop The two loops total 176947575uS (176.947 sec) or 353895150 clock cycles assuming NO wait states. one wait state per memory access will add considerably to the loop times (>226sec!). housekeeping 3.5us 7 hlt ; done with speed test end start I would appreciate it if someone with an Altair could put this in and time, in seconds, how long it takes to perform this test. About an hour.... first 55 minutes to toggle it in and watch it crash repeatedly. Then there were the crashes due to bus noise... Seriously if you have the 8080 book you can calculate it as the basic altair was 2.00 mhz (500ns Tcy) with no wait state ram. if you had 88S4k the wait states for refresh were asynchronous and hard to predict. If the ram was 88s4k the refresh was invisible as it was synchronous. If you got it right.... roughly 177 seconds for no mait memory and somewhere around 227seconds for memory requiring one wait state per access. 8085 and z80s execute this faster for the same clock due to different numbers for instructing timing such as jumps which have shorter timing if the condition fails. Allison

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Yet Another Board Cleaning Thread

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jeffrey S. Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> >Do you suggest I dip the core stack in distilled water instead of >isopropyl alcohol? Isopropanol is ok for the core stack but only if seriously required. Use only the pure {99.5%} as rubbing alcohol can be up to 70% water! >How about if I blew the air from a distance? There's got to be a happy >medium between a point-blank discharge and spraying from across the room. Do so with the greatest care. Allison

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The "MEX" program & is ron Fowler still around

by pdan＠primenet.com

Yes, still using the MEX program for my UNIX dialup on my 1GH computer and since the upgrade, haven't been able to upload or download, the error message being "serial input errors". Is Ron Fowler who wrote the program still around or Al Jewer who worked on it? Alternatively, anybody here know what I'm talking about and who might have a suggestion for a fix? Any assisstance greatly appreciated.

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I've got the PA-RISC Blues . . .

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

I recently aquired an HP-9000/735-120, minus the RAM and (I've just realized) the CPU! Grrrrrr. Anyone know of a reasonably-priced source for these items? Thanx-- Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Geek Button Sayings

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Existed as large button and also a teeshirt. |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| (digital keys logo in BLUE) the word unix in the no symbol (red circle with slash) and the words.... unix the unsystem, never had it never will. ca.1984 Allison

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Geek Button Sayings

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

: p1 OOLCAY IT-TAY (or however it appears at the end of the book... I can't find my copy right now) ---------------------------------------------------- Swapped Out ---------------------------------------------------- Core Dumped ---------------------------------------------------- Carrier Lost ---------------------------------------------------- Lost Cluster ---------------------------------------------------- Hard Wired ---------------------------------------------------- Liquid Cooled ---------------------------------------------------- Simulation Only! ---------------------------------------------------- Overflow again? Somebody get the bit bucket. ---------------------------------------------------- Abort, Retry, Fail? ---------------------------------------------------- I'm with the head crash ==============>

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Geek Button Sayings

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

You forgot... WYSIWYG ... What You See Is What You Get (first generation pagelayup editors) WYGINS.... What You Get Is No Surprize (Runoff, TEX, LAtex users know this) -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:38 PM Subject: RE: Geek Button Sayings >DON'T ANTHROPOMORPHIZE COMPUTERS - THEY HATE IT WHEN YOU DO THAT > >MAKE BILL GATES A MILLIONAIRE (too subtle for most people) > >W.I.B.A.S - WINDOWS IS BUGGY AND SLOW (from about 1990) > > > >

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Geek Button Sayings

by technos＠nerdland.org

"I [heart] my Wang" Might also appeal to readers of Penny Arcade.. Jim On Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:30 AM, Larry Anderson [SMTP:foxnhare@jps.net] wrote: > > If you had the opportunity to write a classic computer related phrase > (or whatever will work) on a 2.25" diameter button, what would you > like > to wear? > > Of course some of the classics are: > > //////////// > > BYTE ME! > > //////////// > > DANCE > ALGORITHM 1.0 > > 0A ASL ;SHIFT TO > THE LEFT! > 4A LSR ;SHIFT TO > THE RIGHT! > 48 PHA ;PUSH A! > 68 PLA ;PULL A! > EA NOP ;BYTE! > EA NOP ;BYTE! > EA NOP ;BYTE! > > //////////// > > 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 > 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 > 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 > 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 > 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 > 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 > 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 > 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 > 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 > > (this one is a bit harsh, I'd prefer to use a different phrase) > > ////////////// > > My other computer is an Apple I > > ////////////// > > My computer > takes up half a room > draws 500 watts, > has 4k of RAM, > and runs at only 500khz... > > Beat That! > > //////////////// > > > > reason: I have a bag of old buttons I am relabling (sticking new > labels > over the previous 1996 dated event designs) to give away at VCF 5.0, > besides the Commodore related ones (of course) and those above, I am > open to do other designs (I have already did a nice "I'd rather be > playing Spacewar" in button form). Just let me know, I have about > 60-100 buttons I'm doing. (color and photos are doable, fonts too if > I > have em.)

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> > There is the well-known software package for DEC's pdp8/e (and >perhaps other -8 models) that makes quite reasonable music from a >nearby AM radio, if memory serves the "interference" was generated by >the core memory drivers...you took the chassis cover off, put an AM >radio near the machine, ran the program, gave it a "song" file, and >away it played. > > -Dave There was also a pack of routines that used the link bit driving an amplifier to a speaker... much cleaner. Then there is also software for the A/D board... fairly decent. Other classic music hardware was the ALS-8. As to sounds, the best is my S-S100 boot test, series or disk seeks beeps to a speaker (coded) and the vt100 terminal beep after it finally says hello to the serial line. It's the best for the one reason, they indicate boot progress and success. ;) Allison

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HP2000 BASIC

by west＠tseinc.com

As a followup... Today I got the mux board put together and hooked up a few terminals. I hit return and was greeted with the infamous "PLEASE LOG IN". Then I created an A000 account, logged in, and entered/ran some basic programs... WOOHOO! It's all up 100% now. Funny how I just got the system completely usable today, and already I'm thinking about hardware upgrades *smile* It will take me some time - weeks at least & maybe months to get around to putting a FreeBSD machine on front of the system so people can telnet to the HP2000 box across the internet. However, if someone just can't wait to play with it (yes, a few people have already asked me about this) - send me a private email and I'll slap a modem directly on the system so you can dial in. All you'd have is long distance fees. Regards! (time for me to go have lots of beer to celebrate) Jay West

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Lubert Trek

by CELang＠worldnet.att.net

I was just reminded this evening about a program I've been looking for on and off for years now. It was a Star Trek game written by Col. Lubert. I think he was Air Force, but I don't remember for certain. It was a battle; Enterprise vs a Klingon battle cruiser. I found the program on the University of Minnesota's CDC Cyber 74 in 1979 and did a conversion to Apple ][. Someone asked to borrow my only hardcopy of the program, and like a good little idiot I gave it up. Then the cassette with the Apple copy died. Of course, the guy I loaned the hardcopy to had no recollection of it and by this time I no longer had access to the Cyber. Does anyone out there have a copy of this game? Thanks for reading. Craig

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 1, Glen Goodwin wrote: > Being a musician, this conjures up all sorts of ideas for using computer > sounds to make music. I have a recording studio hung off my main > non-classic box, so I can add this to my List of Unfinished Projects. Some > useable sounds might be: > > (printers, of course) > hard drive spinup & chatter > crt charge & discharge > floppy drive stepper motors > ps fans > cpu cooling fans > cd drives (opening, closing, and spinning) > scanner sounds > tape drives > ASR 33s > PAC readers > card readers > > So what did I miss (classic or non)? There is the well-known software package for DEC's pdp8/e (and perhaps other -8 models) that makes quite reasonable music from a nearby AM radio, if memory serves the "interference" was generated by the core memory drivers...you took the chassis cover off, put an AM radio near the machine, ran the program, gave it a "song" file, and away it played. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

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installing VMS

by red＠bears.org

Howdy; Thanks to Jeff Kaneko, who supplied the missing chassis parts, my VAXstation 4000/90 is all happy and ready to run. I had originally planned to install VMS 5.5-2 from a CD I'vfe had kicking around for ages (actually, from five years ago when I wanted to buy a VAXstation 3100 from Tim Shoppa), but booting the CD didn't seem successful. What do I need to do to install VMS on this machine? One of the drives in the 4000 has VMS 6.2 Standalone Backup installed, if it helps. The CD is labelled, "VMS V5.5-2 BIN CDROM Disc 1 of 1 October 1992". ok r.

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More free Q-bus/Unibus boards, you pay shipping

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

OK, more boards, same deal no guarantees, you pay shipping (typically under $4 per board): DEC M7168+M7169 pair (VCB02) DEC M8053 (DMV11). On board 6502, etc. Data Translation Inc P/N 06012, seemingly a DMA I/O board of some kind Digi-Data "82 QCI", I think a Q-bus pertec formatted controller DEC M7090, console module from a 11/44 Again, email me at "shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com" to reserve and set up shipping details. Tim.

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Free Q-bus/Unibus boards, you pay shipping

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

Free Q-bus/Unibus boards. No warranty, no docs, but I hope someone finds them interesting or useful, because otherwise they're going to be scrapped. You pay for shipping from East Coast USA (typically under $4 per board). DEC W943 dual-wide wire wrap board (16 pin DIP sockets) The two big PC boards from a DEC RX02 drive Excelan EXOS 204 (I think it's a Unibus Ethernet adapter.) National Instruments ASSY178009-01 (I think GPIB Q-bus adapter) M7687 DUP11-DA (two available) Plessey Microsystems P/N 701295-100H, I think a 128Kbyte Unibus memory board Emulex TC01 two board set (controller for Pertec formatted tapes) M4002 KWV11-C programmable real time clock (two available) Unknown maker, labeled "Menu/Tablet Interface", has two RCA CDP1854's and baud rate selectors. Quad-height, I think Unibus (but maybe Q-bus!) Datasystems DLP-1132 (I think this is the same as the Wespercorp Pertec unformatted controller, but no guarantees!) M7800 DL11 A M8081 (RLV12), which a decade ago I labeled "doesn't work". Probably still doesn't work, but I won't guarantee that! If interested, please E-mail me at "shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com" to reserve what you want and arrange shipping details. Tim.

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BA123 Power

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> >> >I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly standard >> uVAX-II in a >> >BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and >> power requirements... >> >> About 700W (8.8A in the US, 4.4A in the UK). > >I could have sworn that it is a 600W powersupply. Of course that doesn't >mean that the system will pull that much. In any case, I've never had any >problems, and it's amazing I've never popped a breaker with mine, >considering how much other stuff I tend to have running. It's power needs are modest and that 4.4A @120VAC (USA) is under worst case conditions at maximum load. It's pretty difficult to configure a UVII to the max unless you have 4 rd54s, TK50 and Flooppy and even then your only "close". In any cas e power wise the box is an easy one to run at home and not too bad on heat output for modest configurations. Allison

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This week's finds

by root＠diablonet.net

> I also found a DEC drawing tablet. Plugs into the DEC mini-DIN-6 mouse port. > Unfortunately it's got no pen or puck. There is no plug for the drawing > instrument, so I suppose it's some kind of magnetic device. Anyone know some > kind of replacement? The unit is called the VSXXX-AB. I've got one of these laying around too. As far as I can tell, they're pretty much a DEC-rebadged Summagraphics SummaSketch II tablet with the serial cable customized to allow it to be connected to a DEC mouse port. I guess these tablets were popular in the IBM world for CAD work, and maybe they worked with Macintosh systems as well? The one I've got has a four-button puck; I'm not sure if they were available with a stylus (probably not). Maybe this helps. --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

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SS1 ethernet MAC address...

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 30, 15:52, Gene Buckle wrote: > I can't really put the SS1 to use yet since I haven't > nailed down an sbus ethernet card for it. You don't need one -- there's an AUI connector on the back of the motherboard. All you need is a transceiver. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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BA123 Power

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > Alex White wrote: > > > >I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly standard > uVAX-II in a > >BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and > power > >requirements... > > About 700W (8.8A in the US, 4.4A in the UK). I could have sworn that it is a 600W powersupply. Of course that doesn't mean that the system will pull that much. In any case, I've never had any problems, and it's amazing I've never popped a breaker with mine, considering how much other stuff I tend to have running. > Over here (in the UK) it just plugs > into an ordinary socket. No special > power or air conditioning requirements. > > Antonio Plugs in to an ordinary socket in the US as well. Zane

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BA123 Power

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

What's in the DECpc? What are it's specs like? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 > ---------- > From: Alex White > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:23 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: BA123 Power > > Hello All! > > I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly standard uVAX-II in > a > BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and power > requirements... > > also, for the DIGITAL fanatics i've got an old DECpc sitting here if > anyone > wants it to complete collections..... no? thought not, just couldn't > resist > asking! > > Alex > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 07/08/2001 > >

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BA123 Power

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Alex White wrote: > >I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly standard uVAX-II in a >BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and power >requirements... About 700W (8.8A in the US, 4.4A in the UK). Over here (in the UK) it just plugs into an ordinary socket. No special power or air conditioning requirements. Antonio

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[mac-nt] [Off] Token Ring Cards

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Chris --- I'll forward this to the Classic Computing (classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org) list for you. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@mac.com] ! ! Ok, I have tried unsuccessfully to sell off these things, so now I am ! just offering them for free. ! ! I have a box load of 16/4 token ring cards. Most are ISA, but ! there are a ! few MCA and EISA cards. All are 16/4 cards, and all have at least an ! RJ-45 connector (but some also have a DB-9). ! ! They are FREE to anyone that wants them (well, free plus ! shipping). They ! will be shipping out of Northern New Jersey (07450 zip). ! Anyone can have ! as many of any style as they want (up to as many as I have obviously). ! ! I don't know if they work as I am not the one that removed them from ! operation. They were all removed from computers during a mass ! Ethernet ! migration, so I have no reason to believe that they won't ! work (but since ! I didn't pull them, I can't say for sure). They are JUST the ! cards, no ! cables, no manuals, no drivers, no warrenties, no nothing... ! just a box ! of cards. ! ! If anyone is interested, email me off list (lets not clutter ! up the list ! with this topic). I can ship pretty much any manner that you ! request, but ! remember YOU cover shipping costs, so take that into account before ! requesting FedEx P1 overnight. ! ! If no one here wants any... are their any recommendations as ! to where I ! might unload them (other than my dumpster which is where they will be ! headed soon). I just feel bad tossing out about 60 perfectly ! fine token ! ring cards, but no one seems to want them. ! ! -chris ! ! <http://www.mythtech.net> ! ! ! [DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] This is a posting from the ! Mac-NT Mailing List. To unsubscribe, forward this message ! (Including these lines) to ! <unsub-mac-nt(a)lyris.sunbelt-software.com>. List Charter and ! FAQ at: ! http://www.sunbelt-software.com/mac-nt-list_charter.htm <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/mac-nt-list_charter.htm>

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by james＠cs.york.ac.uk

i don't know whether this has been sent to the list before, but it tickled me. most of the "performers" appear to be classic, so it is on topic. http://www.sat.qc.ca/the_user/dotmatrix/en/intro.html -- J.F.Carter http://www.jfc.org.uk/

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IBM PC 5150 memory device driver?

by mbbrutman＠magnaspeed.net

Hello all, I have an early IBM PC (5150) w/ 64K on the motherboard. This machine has the early BIOS bug that prevents it from recognizing over 544KB of RAM. Is there a device driver that can be used to fix up the memory area where the BIOS stores the amount of RAM? The area needs to be fixed up before DOS loads, or DOS won't see the changes. Also, is there a restriction on using an EGA card in this machine? I have a monochrome display adapter card in it; attempts to use EGA (either standalone or with the MDA) have failed. I think I'm setting the motherboard switches correctly. The EGA card in question is a genuine IBM card; two different samples have not worked. Thanks, Mike mbbrutman(a)magnaspeed.net

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Name that connector...

by mjsnodgr＠rockwellcollins.com

Sounds like you've discovered the classiccmp version of the "guess the number of pennies in the jar and win $100" game. A grand prize of 300 5.25" floppies goes to the person who can correctly name all the connectors on the back of the most obscure machine that Fred can come up with. <grin> - M.S. "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>@classiccmp.org on 08/27/2001 11:22:45 AM Please respond to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent by: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: "'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> cc: Subject: RE: Are office people really that, umm shall we say...slow? > ! > Slot 1 : Female DA15, Female DB25 > 15 - joystick port, 25 is printer port, and I bet these go to the same card > as slot 5, the DB 9 and DB25 serial ports... The most common uses in a PC for a female DA15 is joystick. The most common uses in a PC for a FEMALE DB25 is printer. But the FEMALE DB25 could be SCSI, and the female DB15 could be sound. But keep in mind that Tony's machine might not be very ordinary. > ! > Slot 2 : 6 Ribbon cables come out (a) ending in a male > ! > DC37, (b,c) ending > ! > in female DB25s, (d,e) ending in male DB25s (narrower > ! > ribbon cables than > ! > b,c), (f) ending in a female DC37 > ! No idea, but from you, probably something homemade :-) > Hard drive controller? EPROM programmer, expansion chassis? Although male DB25s are most often serial, and FEMALE DB25s are most often parallel, they also get used for a LOT of random other general purposes. > ! > Slot 3 : Pushbutton switch, Mini-DIN 6 > ! The switch might be a reset, but no idea on the mini-din 6, > ! M$ bus mouse > ! perhaps? Based on Tony's feelings about mini-din, I'd have to assume that it is a commersial product that he has yet to get around to customizing. Non-maskable interrupt/hardware debug assist (Atron, ...)? > ! > Slot 4 : RCA phono socket, female DE9 > ! That's your video card I think. The most common card for a PC with RCA socket and female DE9 is CGA. No homemade notch for access to the 4 and 6 pin bergs? > ! > Slot 5 : Female DE9, female DB25 > ! serial ports FEMALE!!!! The most common card for a PC with FEMALE DE9 and FEMALE DB25 is the IBM "Monochrome Display and Printer" No notch for access to the 6 pin berg? > ! > Slot 6 : Female DC37 > ! again, I 'm not sure what a DC connector is.... is it a floppy > ! controller? I can't recall the pin count. The most common card for a PC with female DC37 is the IBM Floppy disk controller. But it could be SCSI, expansion chassis, or miscellaneous homebrew. > ! > Slot 7 : Male DB25 > ! parallel port? MALE!!! The most common use of a MALE DB25 for a PC is serial. > ! > Slot 8 : Female DC37 ! ! a second floppy controller? > Also on the back : another male DB25, female 5 pin DIN, ! male and > female IEC mains connectors. ! ! The DB25 could be another > parallel port, MALE!!! serial > the din 5 your ! keyboard, and I ! don't know what IEC > is, but since you say mains I assume that's your ! power cord and > monitor power points. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com

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Bell Technologies Workstation Graphics Engine

by engdahl＠cle.ab.com

"Bell Technologies Workstation Graphics Engine" I got this in a box of other computer junk a long time ago. It's a full size PC-AT card with an Intel 82786 (some sort of graphics controller), some 16 pin DIP DRAM (256K bits), and a bunch of logic chips on it. The date codes on the chips are 1987. I think it might have been a very early X-windows accelerator for the PC-AT. The graphics chip might be kind of interesting, but I don't have time to fool with it. You can probably find some info on it in a mid-80's Intel data book. Does anybody want this? -- Jonathan Engdahl???????????????? Rockwell Automation Principal Research Engineer????? 24800 Tungsten Road Advanced Technology????????????? Euclid, OH 44117, USA Euclid Labs????????????????????? engdahl(a)cle.ab.com 216-266-6409

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BA123 Power

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

UK? Oh well, kills the deal for me... I was hoping for maybe something like an Alpha... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Alex White [mailto:awx@btinternet.com] ! Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:48 PM ! To: David Woyciesjes ! Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: RE: BA123 Power ! ! ! It's a rather standard i486/25 with 4Mb RAM and integrated ! VGA. Nothing ! special at all really, I bought it as a cheap server and ! because of the DEC ! link but now as it's been replaced it's free to anyone. One ! caveat - i'm in ! the UK... ! ! Alex ! ! -----Original Message----- ! From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] ! Sent: 31 August 2001 17:17 ! To: 'awx(a)btinternet.com' ! Cc: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' ! Subject: RE: BA123 Power ! ! ! What's in the DECpc? What are it's specs like? ! ! --- David A Woyciesjes ! --- C & IS Support Specialist ! --- Yale University Press ! --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu ! --- (203) 432-0953 ! --- ICQ # - 905818 ! ! > ---------- ! > From: Alex White ! > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:23 AM ! > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! > Subject: BA123 Power ! > ! > Hello All! ! > ! > I am wondering what the power requirements of a fairly ! standard uVAX-II in ! > a ! > BA123 case would be, what kind of hookup it needs, voltage and power ! > requirements... ! > ! > also, for the DIGITAL fanatics i've got an old DECpc sitting here if ! > anyone ! > wants it to complete collections..... no? thought not, just couldn't ! > resist ! > asking! ! > ! > Alex ! > --- ! > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. ! > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). ! > Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 07/08/2001 ! > ! > !

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AT&T 7300 Manual

by fire＠dataflo.net

I am looking for someone with AT&T 7300 paper manuals. I have a set but was missing a few pages and borrowed a manual from my friend. Unfortunately, the first day I did not notice that I was missing the lpsched(1M) page. Later I took just that page out of my friend's copy and carefully photocopied it. Here is the amazing part, I lost BOTH copies. So... if anyone has User's Manual Volume I, I would be very grateful if I could get just that one page photocopied and sent to me via snail mail. And my friend won't have to figure out where to hide my body. (Seriously, my negligence bothers both of us greatly) thanks a lot, Bradley Slavik

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Hello World! on modern processors.

by ken＠seefried.com

Iggy Drougge wrote: > >Oh, but can you go out and buy yourself an m68k/MIPS/PPC >meainstream distro in the bookshop, Yes (though more likely for Alpha/SPARC/PPC...m68k & MIPS are a bit more obscure). Not at Barns & Noble, to be sure, but certainly at more technical bookstores (e.g. Engineers Bookstore near Georgia Tech had them last I was there). >or can you buy any software for non-i386 platforms? Usually not. Yes. See above. >What about Netscape? Several alternative platforms run Netscape just fine, even if some of them are emulating the version of Unix that originally ran on that chip. Of course, trying to make such sweeping statements about Linux based on what can be purchased commercially in a bookstore is like making judgements about advanced telecommunications based on a visit to Radio Shack. Ken

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classic comp CD library?(RE: HP2000 Access - It LIVES! *GRIN*)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

This brings up a thought... Can all this stuff you have be put onto a CD somehow, for preservation purposes? We all have programs and stuff, I'm sure, that exist only on magnetic media. Wouldn't having all this on a CD (or something) library make sense as backups? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 > ---------- > From: Jay West > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:24 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: HP2000 Access - It LIVES! *GRIN* > > I am now the proud owner of a living breathing HP2000Access system. Today > I got the IOP configured and running, then the system processor followed > suit in short order. I was quite concerned that after spending years on > getting the hardware all tested and passing diagnostics that I'd go to > load the OS and the OS tape would be bad. Fortunately, that was not the > case, the OS tape read and installed just beautifully! I was able to do > system console commands like ROS, DIR, SLE, HIB, CRE, etc. Was even able > to do ANN-ALL,System going down now! before shutting it down. > > The biggest wrinkle I ran into at the last minute was loading the > cross-link and mag tape boot loader from the IOP to the system processor. > The documentation was slightly obtuse about this, and I just couldn't get > it to work. Finally I just said "heck with the cross-link" and moved the > paper tape reader to the system processor and did it there. That means I > can't share the paper tape reader to users on the system, something I > really need to do so I can easily duplicate tapes and read them under > BASIC. The way I was trying to load that tape was strange anyway, because > I don't have the "loader/loader" tape. If anyone has a copy of the > "loader/loader" tape, I would GREATLY appreciate a copy so I can install > and configure the system the way you're supposed to instead of the kludge > that I did. > > I did not hook up a terminal to the system other than the system console, > I need to do many hours of soldering to rebuild the mux panel that I have. > But since the MESS and ANN commands work, it's pretty likely the mux > boards are in fact fine. I just may take tomorrow off work to build the > mux panel and hook up a terminal other than the console. > > The only thing left to do on the system is rerack everything. The > components aren't in my better racks, and some are not quite mounted > properly, etc. So, basically cosmetic stuff. > > One thing I need to ask the list for (besides a copy of the loader/loader > mentioned above) - an initial system load of TSB doesn't have any system > library. I seem to recall one or more list members telling me they had HIB > tapes of system libraries (hopefully including things like startrk, > wumpus, hanoi, etc.). Now that the system is up and running, I would love > to borrow any and all HIB tapes I can get to build a nice system library. > If I get multiple tapes from multiple people, I'd be happy to send a tape > back that includes the entire library from everyone. I'll probably key in > all the programs from the David Ahl computer games book too. > > Finally - I suspect others on the list might be trying to build HP2000 TSB > systems too - now that mine is running, after the dust settles I will most > likely have duplicates of things that I have amassed - software, hardware, > etc. I will gladly offer the excess/duplicates of stuff to listmembers. > Preference will be given to people who are fairly close to a running > system, so that we can get as many of these machines up as possible. > > Regards, > > Jay West > > >

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HP64000 - DOS

by dschulte＠tellumat.com

Can anyone help me/tell me how to recompile C code generated on UNIX, the compiler is called product B1493-11000 A.03.51 8086 C Cross Compiler The linker creates Intel hex output file sbc.hex. I need to be able to recompile under DOS , Windows or UNIX ???? ********************************************************************** Notice: The information contained in this e-mail (including any attachments) may contain commercially sensitive or confidential information which may be legally privileged and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not, or believe you may not be, the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying, review, disclosure or action taken in reliance of this e-mail is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete all copies of the message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender unless expressly stated by the sender to be given on behalf of Tellumat (Pty) Ltd. Tellumat (Pty) Ltd disclaims liability for any unauthorised opinion or representation made by the sender on behalf of Tellumat (Pty) Ltd. No warranty is given by Tellumat (Pty) Ltd that the integrity or security of this e-mail (including any attachments) has been maintained through transmission, nor that the communication is free of virus, interception or interference. **********************************************************************

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S-100 Power Supplies: thanks!

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, Thanks to all those who replied to my message regarding S-100 power supplies, and thanks especially to Dick Erlacher, who offered to sell me some cheap. I got a private email reply from someone offering the same thing, and I took him up on it first. So to Dick, I'll pass but thanks anyway... The main problem in all of this was not ever the design. As Allison pointed out, an unregulated supply is dead simple to design. Even looking at some commercially designed/built S-100 supplies, you can see it's not rocket science. The problem nowadays is finding one part -- the transformer. Most all computers are +5V, +/-12V now, and of course transformer manufacturers gear towards those. Even some of the surplus places I've gone to on the web only have "common" voltages (+5V, +/- 12V, +24V, etc). That's why I wanted to see if there was an SMPS that would do the trick. After looking at SMPS prices, however, I've decided no to go that route. I'm sure they're bullet-proof, and would function admirably, but I'm not going to plunk down $200+ for one :-) (remember, we're talking high current here, not just the little 1A switcher). Anyway, thanks to all ... Rich B.

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NOTICE FROM THE LIST HOST (re: recent political commentary)

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

Ok folks, I've about had it with the off topic stuff as of late, including but not limited to the current "political" discussion. This also applies to some of the "flame wars" that happened a month or so ago which I received several complaints and "requests for action" about, as well as the long discussion of caurberators for god's sake. This list is for discussion of classic computers and narrowly related issues. If you want to talk politics or cars, hit the newsgroups. If you want to respond to an on-topic message with political commentary or flaming, take it to private email. There is NOTHING that I want less than to be perceived as heavy-handed or dictatorial, but in the interest of the list subscribers at large I felt the need to bring this up. There are plenty of majordomo configuration or filtering solutions available to me that will address this, but I truely do not want to go that route. Let's keep the signal-to-noise ratio within reasonable limits. Please? Jay West

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Anyone know where...

by vance＠ikickass.org

Anyone know where I might be able to buy brand new 8" floppies? Peace... Sridhar

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Advanced/36

by mbbrutman＠magnaspeed.net

I actually have code running in this! (Interrupt and exception handling code.) The Advanced/36 uses an early version of SLIC (System Licensed Internal Code) used on the RISC based AS/400s sold today. Back when the RISC based AS/400s were being developed, somebody wrote an emulator for the System/36. We could easily emulate a System/36 with the new hardware, and give a lot of businesses a few more years with their software investment. Eventually we wanted them to be running on the AS/400 natively though. :-) Mike mbbrutman(a)magnaspeed.net

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Apple LISA easter egg...

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

> While I was perusing your website, I ran across the page talking >about the Lisa, >http://www.geocities.com/j_hellige/LISA2.HTML > I tried the easter egg, at the bottom of the page, on my OS9.1 Mac. >They shotened it. Now, it only says "Finder - Created by all of the folks >here at Apple. Inspired by the distinguished history of the Macintosh >desktop.", still in front of the picture of the Apple campus. > So much for the homage to the Lisa and her programmers... The easter egg still shows the names of the programmers in OS 9.0.4 but you're right, in the newest OS updates they've shortened it to the single blurb you list above. Frankly, given how little recognition programmers have recieved over the years from various companies, I'm suprised that the easter egg listing all of their names lasted this long. Thanks for the tip though, as I hadn't realized that they had changed it with 9.1. Jeff -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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old NEC APC computer

by lhyost＠nfdc.net

Just noticed these old NEC APC postings. I bought one in 1981. It sits across the room. I think i t still works. I have all the books and documents that came with it ( 10 or 12 volumes) And cases full of 8 inch flopies. I wonder if they can still be read. At the time I bought it, it was the best computer available -- but soon IBM got into the game and the situation changed. Lloyd Yost The PC 8023 A/C printer that came with it is still being used every day after 20 years !!

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IBM Dos 4.00

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

I dont know that it's such a big deal. 4.0 was oddball but any old copy of 5.0 (more stable as well) would easily fdisk it and format the disk. The real problem is that apparently the disk MBR is weird and a more aggressive tool like FIPS is needed. Allison Subject: Re: IBM Dos 4.00 >> > > FDISK v4 for PS/1 ( Beth Dorman ) >> > My guess is that any FDISK on any DOS ( v3 or higher ) >> > will do for this. My current Windows computer has fdisk, >> > for example. Many, many others on the list know more, >> > but I think you can Format ( with 'Copy System Files' ) a >> > floppy, and put fdisk on it with a New computer and be OK. >On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Don Maslin wrote: >> Unless it can be handled by SETVER, he will get an error >> message "Incorrect DOS".

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IBM Dos 4.00

by mdorman＠InfoAve.Net

I have an IBM PS/1 that I messed up the 4.0 ver by trying to upgrade b/4 I realized there was a partitioned D drive. Now, I'm stuck 'cause I can't use FDISK because the command is not there. When the p/c is turned on, the IBM DOS Version 4.00 comes up, so I'm assumming the only way I can fix this is to re-load the program..only I can't find them. I did all this before I was smart enough to go to school and learn something before delete files!! Do you still have the 4.0 disk for sale? Thanks, Beth Dorman

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Tiny Basic again

by ba071＠mvcn.dayton.oh.us

Hi All Tiny Basic enthusiasts, I have more source code of variations of TinyBasic than you can shake a stick at. This would be for Tom Pittman's version c.1977. I am willing to share with anyone but only by snail mail: Phil Lange 29 Santa Clara Ave. Dayton, OH 45405 (937) 278-0506 For you emulator lovers using VICE/XVIC20 I have versions which do very well. Let's all praise the Lord and Tom Pittman for delivering us from idleness, the devil's workshop. His Tiny Basic kept me from the snares of the psychiatrist. Seriously, I have not had as much fun with any program as this one, ever! Phil

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HP2000 Access - It LIVES! *GRIN*

by west＠tseinc.com

I am now the proud owner of a living breathing HP2000Access system. Today I got the IOP configured and running, then the system processor followed suit in short order. I was quite concerned that after spending years on getting the hardware all tested and passing diagnostics that I'd go to load the OS and the OS tape would be bad. Fortunately, that was not the case, the OS tape read and installed just beautifully! I was able to do system console commands like ROS, DIR, SLE, HIB, CRE, etc. Was even able to do ANN-ALL,System going down now! before shutting it down. The biggest wrinkle I ran into at the last minute was loading the cross-link and mag tape boot loader from the IOP to the system processor. The documentation was slightly obtuse about this, and I just couldn't get it to work. Finally I just said "heck with the cross-link" and moved the paper tape reader to the system processor and did it there. That means I can't share the paper tape reader to users on the system, something I really need to do so I can easily duplicate tapes and read them under BASIC. The way I was trying to load that tape was strange anyway, because I don't have the "loader/loader" tape. If anyone has a copy of the "loader/loader" tape, I would GREATLY appreciate a copy so I can install and configure the system the way you're supposed to instead of the kludge that I did. I did not hook up a terminal to the system other than the system console, I need to do many hours of soldering to rebuild the mux panel that I have. But since the MESS and ANN commands work, it's pretty likely the mux boards are in fact fine. I just may take tomorrow off work to build the mux panel and hook up a terminal other than the console. The only thing left to do on the system is rerack everything. The components aren't in my better racks, and some are not quite mounted properly, etc. So, basically cosmetic stuff. One thing I need to ask the list for (besides a copy of the loader/loader mentioned above) - an initial system load of TSB doesn't have any system library. I seem to recall one or more list members telling me they had HIB tapes of system libraries (hopefully including things like startrk, wumpus, hanoi, etc.). Now that the system is up and running, I would love to borrow any and all HIB tapes I can get to build a nice system library. If I get multiple tapes from multiple people, I'd be happy to send a tape back that includes the entire library from everyone. I'll probably key in all the programs from the David Ahl computer games book too. Finally - I suspect others on the list might be trying to build HP2000 TSB systems too - now that mine is running, after the dust settles I will most likely have duplicates of things that I have amassed - software, hardware, etc. I will gladly offer the excess/duplicates of stuff to listmembers. Preference will be given to people who are fairly close to a running system, so that we can get as many of these machines up as possible. Regards, Jay West

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Tony, try this ;>)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Dick Erlacher wrote: > > Winding a transformer is not a way to save money if you value your time at > > 50-cents per hour. I offered to ship him a complete S-100 mainframe for $5 + Tony Duell replied: > You've made this sort of comment before, and I still can't understand it... > > For many of us on this list, classic computers are a hobby. We work with > them because we enjoy them. Not because we make money with them (at least > not all the time). > > And IMHO it is wrong to value time spend on a hobby at anything other > than $0 per hour. You spend that time because you enjoy it. Not to make > money or save money. If you weren't working on classic computers, what > else would you be doing? Most of us are working stiffs, Tony. Our free time is limited. I figure it this way: an hour of my free time is worth at least twice as much as I earn per hour, since I have fewer of those "free" hours (supply and demand). If I chased down the parts and rolled-my-own transformer, it could easily consume $1000 of my free time. If I want to use or revive an old computer it's "cheaper" for me to buy off-the-shelf components because this doesn't burn up a lot of time I could be spending actually *using* said computer. Same thing applies to swapping out a serial board vs. replacing the UART: boards are cheap and plentiful, swapping the UART is time-consuming. If I just "loved" winding transformers my viewpoint might be different, but I don't ;>) > I can assure you I wouldn't do it if I could find a suitable transformer > or transformers in the catalogues. But I would do it if it was the only > way to keep a machine running. Sure, because a no-longer-available item is, literally, priceless -- it cannot be bought for any price, so a big expenditure of free time is justified if the item in question can be recreated. I hope some of this makes sense to you. Glen 0/0

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S-100 Power Supplies: thanks!

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:53:29 +0100 (BST) From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: S-100 Power Supplies: thanks! >Have you considered winding your own transformer. Uhhh ... hadn't thought of that! :-) > In the UK we can buy 'transformer kits'. Did a quick search of a couple of distributors, but no luck yet ... I'll keep looking, though! >According to my calculator, 6.3V * sqrt(2) = 8.9V or thereabouts. Since >the 8V line is unregulated anyway, I would think you could start with a >6.3V transformer. Can you really no longer buy valve heater transformers??? !@$#!@$!!~!!!! I found a couple of 6.3V transformers, one at 8.8A, one at 12A ... I must be going blind... I don't think they'd power my 21-slot backplane, but I do have a couple of smaller ones that would probably be just fine... Rich B.

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IBM Dos 4.00

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Dos is in ROM on this model.(2011 or 2121?) There are two files that will be needed: CUSTOMIZ.EXE & CONFIGUR.EXE one of those gives the option to tell the computer to boot from the hard drive rather than the ROM DOS. MS has something in their knowledge base about it if you can figure out how to use their crappy search method. david, former PS/1 support In a message dated 8/30/2001 3:03:53 PM Central Daylight Time, vance(a)ikickass.org writes: > I could make copies of mine for you, if you would like. I would have no > problem doing it for the cost of shipping. > > Peace... Sridhar > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Mark or Beth Dorman wrote: > > > I have an IBM PS/1 that I messed up the 4.0 ver by trying to upgrade b/4 I > > realized there was a partitioned D drive. Now, I'm stuck 'cause I can't > > use FDISK because the command is not there. > > > > When the p/c is turned on, the IBM DOS Version 4.00 comes up, so I'm > > assumming the only way I can fix this is to re-load the program..only I > > can't find them. > > > > I did all this before I was smart enough to go to school and learn > > something before delete files!! > > > > Do you still have the 4.0 disk for sale? > > > > Thanks, > > Beth Dorman > > > > >

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Last week's finds

by optimus＠canit.se

This last week's been busy. I've finally found my own VAX system, a VAXstation 3100. Hardly state of the art, but at least it's got graphics and ethernet. The 'station has got two RZ23 (100 MB) drives and a floppy drive mounted internally. I also got some external cases, the markings seem to imply that they contain VMS. VMS is one OS which I've never, ever run, which is interesting. But what about breaking into this system? Is there any trick to forced entry into VMS, and what are you to do once you're inside? Any pointers for a VAX newbie? I also salvaged three monitors for the VAX. One 21" DEC, another 16/17", and a 16" Eizo 9070S, which unfortunately is broken, but the error seems to be a documented case, so I'll have a go at fixing it. The Eizo is the top dog, since it's a digital/analogue multisync (or Flexscan in Eizo language), unfortunately, it will only sync down to 20 KHz. Unfortunately, while I was loading the screens inside the bulding, some bastard walked off with the 17" DEC. Bloody idiot, what's he going to do with a 1989 vintage sync-on-green fix-frequency screen? Fortunately, I found an identical screen today. I'll have to try it out once it's dry. I also found a DEC drawing tablet. Plugs into the DEC mini-DIN-6 mouse port. Unfortunately it's got no pen or puck. There is no plug for the drawing instrument, so I suppose it's some kind of magnetic device. Anyone know some kind of replacement? The unit is called the VSXXX-AB. I found some ARCnet equipment, including two Thomas-Conrad 16-port active hubs. Another big haul was a motherlode of retired Luxor equipment. I grabbed four ABC806 units (flattish desktop boxes made out of a lot of metal), along with four keyboards. The keyboards were three different models. Two were more or less the same as the ABC800 keyboard, only in a stand-alone enclosure. One was the smaller, numerical-less unit, and one was a Facit-made one with a lot of keys (such as a very odd tilting arrow key) and LEDs. It also had a D15 at one end. I suspect that this keyboard was designed for the ABC1600, and the mouse would plug into the D15. Besides, the '806es, I found an ABC16, which is a rare PC-compatibility unit for the ABC series, mounted in an ABC806 enclosure. I also grabbed one or two dual 5?" drives (I can't recall the number right now, but it's not the ABC838), an ABC-bus expansion enclosure (the diskdrives were mounted in the same kind of box), and an absolutely hulking enclosure with dual 8" drives and ABC-bus backplane. Besides that, I had to leave about as much stuff behind. Most of it is at a friend's house, so I haven't been able to test it much. I suspect that some part of my monitor is dead, though. It will power up an '806 (I can determine that by the beeping), but there is no image. It could be a cable issue, though. This particular cable is the one with the "Stenmark switch", designed for the monitors which doubled as TV receivers. Unfortunately, they seemed to have eliminated all the software, or perhaps they're still running parts of the system. If you want to have a look at some of the systems I'm talking about, have a look at this site: http://user.tninet.se/~lmx072e/abc800/abc800_pics.htm I've found two pretty little terminals. One is called the "Datascreen" or "Compuscreen", IIRC, and is an integrated unit, seemingly from the late seventines. Looks a bit like a sleeker version of a PET or a Superbrain. The other one is a TECO VA-120, and I absolutely adore it! It's a sleek design with the intelligence fit into the foot and a very spacy look. Unfortunately, the display makes a squealing sound, though the keyboard seems to indicate that the unit works otherwise. The pitch of the squeal may be calibrated through the V.HOLD pot in the back. What do you do with a unit like this? At the fleamarket, I bought a Sanyo Sanword Mini-J, which is a late- eighties/early nineties Japanese word processing machine with built-in printer. The printer doesn't seem to work for me, but the wordpro is good enough in itself, what with the sad state of Japanese wordpros for the Amiga. =) I've also got hold of a Spectrum, rehoused into sa rather amateurish case with a mechanical keyboard. The case could have been done by anyone with a piece of sheet metal and a pincer. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a. Och har du en TV utan Scart, vilket nittionio procent faktiskt har, kommer de f?rmodligen att ringa fr?n Antikrundan. Martin Timell

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VAX 11/780 to 785 upgrade, what does it take?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hello, I know some of you are former VAX field service technicians or have other deep working knowledge of this: what exactly (!) does it take to upgrade a VAX 11/780 to a VAX 11/785 (or 11/780-5 as it was called.) I believe this includes changing the SBI backplane. But what else does it include? Is the console computer any different? Power supply? As you probably all know, I have the 11/785 board set on hand but no cabinet. Now I have the chance of transporting one or two 11/780 accross the country. Those are in real good shape as I gather (were stored inside!) So I figure I rather have a nice 11/780 than a rusty incomplete 11/785 that lacks a console computer. And with some chance I can upgrade one to an 11/780-5. So, what does it take? thanks for your advice, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Apple LISA easter egg...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Jeff --- While I was perusing your website, I ran across the page talking about the Lisa, http://www.geocities.com/j_hellige/LISA2.HTML I tried the easter egg, at the bottom of the page, on my OS9.1 Mac. They shotened it. Now, it only says "Finder - Created by all of the folks here at Apple. Inspired by the distinguished history of the Macintosh desktop.", still in front of the picture of the Apple campus. So much for the homage to the Lisa and her programmers... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] ! Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:18 PM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: S-100 Power Supplies: thanks! <<<<<clipped>>>>> ! Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File ! http://www.cchaven.com ! http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 !

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Looking of Digital Alpha CPU/Motherboard

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, someone on the Alpha-NT email list (which I'm sending this message to) should have a clue for you... (AlphaNT- don't forget to keep Jacek's address in the reply...) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Jacek Artymiak [mailto:workstations@poczta.onet.pl] ! Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:30 AM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Looking of Digital Alpha CPU/Motherboard ! ! ! Hi all, ! ! I acquired a small lot of Alpha 166 and 233MHz CPUs. ! Unfortunately, the ! AXPpci 33 motherboard I have does not work with the Alpha ! 21164-AA CPU I ! found in the box of Alpha CPUs sent to me. ! ! Does anyone know which DEC motherboards work with the Digital ! Alpha 233MHz ! 21164-AA CPU? I tried looking for information on the net, ! but found very ! few pointers. ! ! Jacek Artymiak ! ! ! ! -- ! ! OnetKomunikator - porozumiesz sie ! z innymi [ http://ok.onet.pl/instaluj.html ] !

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Any interest in Apple IIgs computers?

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, Two local schools in my area are trying to get rid of some Apple IIgs computers. I found out about this in time to save them from the dumpster. The total number of computers is somewhere between 50 and 100. I have NOT seen the computers, so I have no idea what shape they are in. I assume they are dirty, and may have school markings engraved or painted on them. I am going to see them on Tuesday, so I will have a better idea of the details then. I would like to accomplish two things: Get these computers to people that will use them, and make a donation to the schools. Assuming the computers are in working order, complete and functional, and assuming they may need a good cleaning, and may have school marking on them, how many people would be interested in them for $5.00 each + shipping (for those with small fonts, that's FIVE dollars, plus shipping)? I live in Massachusetts, USA, ZIP code 01473. Please respond OFF-LIST... And remember, I have NOT seen them yet, so I cannot give any more details than what you see here. Your responses will NOT be binding in ANY way ... I'm just trying to gauge general interest... Rich B.

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S-100 Power Supplies: thanks!

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, Thanks to all for the wonderful hints and tips. I have already gotten offers from several people to send/pick-up full power supplies. I will certainly follow up on some of those (but not all, simply because I could use a couple, not 5 or ten! :-). I will also get the 6.3V transformer, and try to build my own, just to know I can do it. Dick is right: In this particular case (though not all), I'd rather buy/get than build. Partially this is due to my inexperience at building power supplies. I have several S-100 backplanes, and many S-100 cards, but only one power supply. I'd like to get more S-100 stuff going, and I'd rather not release the magic smoke on my cards due to a bad design or bad construction methods. These boards are getting harder to find (at least in my corner of the world), so if I have a known working supply, I'd rather use that. On the other hand, this is the perfect opportunity to learn how to build a power supply. However, as Dick also pointed out, that is a secondary concern. I am more anxious to get the S-100 stuff running than I am to build a power supply. I will build one up, however (and test it thoroughly), and put it into operation. It's just that it will take me more time to get things running if I have to build up a power supply, rather than getting one already made. Thanks again to all, Rich B.

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california digital

by technos＠nerdland.org

On Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:09 PM, Sellam Ismail [SMTP:foo@siconic.com] wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Tony Duell wrote: > > > Sounds like a surplus shop called 'Display Electronics' over here. > > The > > last advert I saw from them (a couple of months ago) listed 8" > > floppy > > drives for close to \pounds 500 (no, not \pounds 5.00, which is > > what > > they tend to sell for at rallies) > > Believe it or not, due to their general scarcity from normal market > channels, 8" floppy drives can demand a high price from those who > really > need it to keep some old gear that uses one for storage alive. When > you've got an operation that can break down completely due to a single > 8" > floppy drive going bad, UKP500 is a small price to pay. > There are companies that make them *new*. They're used in some applications where radioactivity is a concern. I remember seeing an invoice for one (went in some medical equipment) that priced them at $170. Jim

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Looking of Digital Alpha CPU/Motherboard

by workstations＠poczta.onet.pl

Hi all, I acquired a small lot of Alpha 166 and 233MHz CPUs. Unfortunately, the AXPpci 33 motherboard I have does not work with the Alpha 21164-AA CPU I found in the box of Alpha CPUs sent to me. Does anyone know which DEC motherboards work with the Digital Alpha 233MHz 21164-AA CPU? I tried looking for information on the net, but found very few pointers. Jacek Artymiak -- OnetKomunikator - porozumiesz sie z innymi [ http://ok.onet.pl/instaluj.html ]

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TMS7040

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> > How can I dump the ROM inside a TMS7040? > > Does anyone know where I could obtain enough information to emulate a > TMS7040? www.freetradezone.com has some information but it seems to start at section 4 of the manual and the instruction set is in section 3. Antonio

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SemiOT: Mourning for Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Douglas Quebbeman skrev: > > >> There are parties in all of Scandinavia each year, as well as Poland and > >> France. Don't know about the scene beyond there. > > >Ok... what was throwing me for a loop here, was that you seemed surprised > >that I was unaware of them, but they turn out to be something we don't > >have around here, so my absence of familiarity shouldn't be such a > >surprise... > > Are you certain? It might just be a PAL/NTSC thing. No, we know about PAL, we just choose not to use it.... ;-) -dq

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Just curious about injection molding or casting

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Tony Duell wrote: > > > > Yes, I know it's nice to be able to make replacement parts (one day > > there will be no more spares), which is why I intend to investigate > > injection moulding at home. > > If only we had Star Trek's replicators! > > I'd say that personal manufacturing is bound only to get easier and less > expensive. Some day, even before the advent of replicators, it will be > feasible and cheap to build most any replacement part. I would expect > that to have a revolutionary effect on many fields of old stuff > collecting. Within another ten years, surplus stereolithography machines (and other "Santa Claus" machines) will be available to us. Good ones go for $250k, but a friend of mine and I thought we could engineer one to sell for about $25k, and others are likely having the same idea... For those you you who aren't familiar with these, think of them as "3d plotters". Some carve away at a block of material until the object of desire remains; others deposit tiny beads of metal that are sintered (?) together; my favorite uses a polymer fluid and a UV laser; the laser draws a cross-section on the fluid, which hardens the polymer; a tray under the first cross-section lowers slightly, the laser draws the next cross-section, and so on, until you have The Object. I think another spews plastic beads in a fashion similar to the sintered metal. Anyone have any hands-on experience with them? I could watch, but they wouldn't let me touch... ;-) -dq

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Wanted: TeleVideo CP/M machine(s)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

I used to use these at a former orkplace... a cow-orker ended up with a few, and is down to the last one, which he's kindly holding for me... -dq -----Original Message----- From: StormErage(a)aol.com [mailto:StormErage@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:06 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Wanted: TeleVideo CP/M machine(s) I own a Televideo 803 system (not a portable). I have the complete system with manuals, power cords, software, etc - even one OLD game called "mortar". I bought the system when it was new back in the early 1980's. Still runs like it always did - I have it in an air conditioned storage unit.

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Wanted: TeleVideo CP/M machine(s)

by StormErage＠aol.com

I own a Televideo 803 system (not a portable). I have the complete system with manuals, power cords, software, etc - even one OLD game called "mortar". I bought the system when it was new back in the early 1980's. Still runs like it always did - I have it in an air conditioned storage unit.

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Sorry

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> If you have any VAX 11/7xx documentation, I'm interested in buying it. > Let me know what you have and how much you want for it... Over at http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm you will eventually find about six or so of the VAX-11/780 related technical manuals. (They have them already, you just need to wait until they get around to putting them online). Antonio

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PC/AT memory boards

by zaft＠azstarnet.com

I've got an old genuine IBM AT (8 MHz) that has a couple of 16bit mystery boards in it... 1) Marked 55x3543, google says 0.5 to 3 MB board. It has a 16450 on it, a total of 12 30 pin simms, a male DB9 (okay, I guess it's a DE9) and a female DB25. I assumed it was a serial port and parallel port but it doesn't show up as such in the machine. Also since these appear to be 256K simms I expected the machine to boot with 2MB of RAM or more but it only came up as 1 MB. I'm suspecting it's configured wrong or there's a conflict but of course I don't have any docs... anyone? 2) Another memory board, 18 256Kbit chips, marked EV159 and has a big EVEREX chip on it. Google says 3 MB expansion board, same questions. I assume this motherboard has 512K on it, so... this board might be okay but I'd like to know what the switch settings are in case I decide to add memory to it (anyone know a cheap source of 41256s? Any help (docs especially) would be appreciated.... Gordon Zaft zaft(a)azstarnet.com

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Sorry

by lgwalker＠mts.net

Sorry about this, list, but I've just moved out to my retirement home and I really need every cent I can gather, so I sold a Borsky S1000 handbook and a PDP8 maintenance manual without offering it to the list. Once I get some of my multitude of boxes unpacked, I will be offering many other duplicates and non-essential things. I'm sure there is much that would not excite much interest on EPay but would be of interest to the list. I'll keep you posted. ciao Lawrence Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net

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Anyone know where...

by CELang＠worldnet.att.net

http://www.plumresources.com A quick search turned them up here. Craig -----Original Message----- From: Absurdly Obtuse <vance(a)ikickass.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:58 PM Subject: Anyone know where... > >Anyone know where I might be able to buy brand new 8" floppies? > >Peace... Sridhar > >

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S-100 Power Supplies: thanks!

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Well, with all the falderall try this. find a 6.3vac core with an output current that is adaquate. By examination, determine the turns/Volt for the secondary. method B: wind 5 turns over the core and see what the votage is. divide by 5 to get turns/volt. Divide that number into 1.7, that the additional voltage you need. Add those turns. That was the exact method used to correct the early version Altair with the undersized transformer. FYI, it needed 11 more turns of #16 to do the trick. No need to disassemble or "rewind". Allison

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Slightly OT, but...

by vance＠ikickass.org

...if anyone will know, it will be one of you. Using one of the accelerator boards as a template, would it be too difficult to design a 68060 accelerator board for a 68040 NeXT? I guess a big part of this question is: how different is the architecture of the 68060 to that of the 68040? Peace... Sridhar

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TMS7040

by tlindner＠ix.netcom.com

How can I dump the ROM inside a TMS7040? Does anyone know where I could obtain enough information to emulate a TMS7040? -- tim lindner tlindner(a)ix.netcom.com "Life. Don't talk to me about life." - Marvin, the android

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TI Stuff for Sale

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I have the following TI stuff available. Please see my previous note about Apple II stuff for all terms/conditions.... TI RF Modulator -- Qty. 5, untested, $2.00 EACH TI Power supply -- Qty. 3, untested, $5.00 EACH TI single cassette cable, untested, $5.00 Thanks! Rich B.

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PDP 11/34 work party

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

Well this is the weekend that I'll try and get the PDP 11/34 running as well as the AS400's in the garage. Anyone who will be in the Ottawa area is welcome to come and help. I'd like to see some signs of life before packing the magnetic media into the basement for the winter. Mike Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)

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S-100 Power Supplies: thanks!

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

-----Original Message----- From: Rich Beaudry <r_beaudry(a)hotmail.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Re: S-100 Power Supplies: thanks! Hey! I have a complete S100 PS transformer and all plus it has the regulators to run SA801s! It's a complete unit on it own plate >from a TEI or similar box. WANT IT???? It's heavy as all get out so shipping is out. Pick up is Framingham or maybe some place where we cross paths. Allison

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IBM AS/400 Advanced 36

by pjschilling＠gcstech.net

David, I gather it is twinax, do you have any connectors? As I remember you can use any twinax terminal but it must be connected to port 0 address 0, IIRC, at least mine are setup that way. I think that I probably have an extra terminal around. All this will be moot point if they wiped out software though. Phil -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of David Betz Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:52 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: OT: IBM AS/400 Advanced 36 I know this is a bit new to be of much interest to people here but I was recently given one of these and am at a loss as to what to do with it. I only received the actual box and I believe it requires a proprietary terminal as a console so I am unable to even determine whether it works. Does anyone here know anything about these machines?

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california digital

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

But the prices on *most* of their stuff is outta sight-- I don't care if most of their merchandise is 'NOS'; I still think the guy who's pricing this stuff is smoking a mind-altering drug . . . On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:26:57 -0500 (CDT) Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> writes: > I was just checking out california digitals web site, and i see they > have > a couple things of possible interest to others. > > They have DEC backplanes, 4 slot dual width, for $9.00 > > They also have Teletype model 40 terminals, supporting RS/232 and > Current Loop, and sporting a somewhat interesting 70's terminal > style. These are listed at $49.00 each. > > Of course they still have the usual stuff, 10 and 16 sector floppy > disks, copies of CP/M, etc. > > www.cadigital.com > > -Lawrence LeMay > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 29, 19:10, Tony Duell wrote: > Sounds like a surplus shop called 'Display Electronics' over here. The > last advert I saw from them (a couple of months ago) listed 8" floppy > drives for close to \pounds 500 (no, not \pounds 5.00, which is what they > tend to sell for at rallies) What's more, they've been selling -- or at least advertising -- the *same* floppies for over 10 years. I imagine they've not sold (m)any :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:46:26 -0700 "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> writes: > >Some of their 20-year-old FDD's are priced right at where they were >> when new. Do you suppose it's possible they're old inventory? Of that, I'm almost certain. They've been sitting on some of this stuff for over twenty years. I run into establishments like this IRL: Some old geezer, store filled to the gunwales with NOS 'stuff', and positively *refuses* to mark down any of the merchandise that's 'slow moving'. Ten years later, the store looks about the same, with the same 'stuff'. . . > In looking at their page last night I noticed that while some of > thier prices are quite reasonable, a lot of them are insane! When I say > insane, I mean insane even for dealers whose sole reason for existance is > keeping old hardware alive! Yep. Like I said: *DRUGS*. Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Osborne 1 Video -- again

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I dove back into the Osborne again ... just to recap, on power up there is no video output. Nothing is obviously damaged internally (no broken parts, loose connections, burn marks, etc.). Also, it does respond to the keyboard, as pressing "Enter" after power up causes the floppy to spin (as if looking for the disk you just inserted). Tony suggested tracing the +12V lines to the CRT. My trusty digital multimeter shows me +11.88 volts all the way to the connector on the neck of the CRT. I don't know if 11.88 is close enough to 12, but that's what I get. The CRT neck does not glow at all.... What's the next step, assuming the 11.88V is a "good" voltage? Rich B.

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HP 1820-1691 microprocessor pinout

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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Are office people really that, umm shall we say...slow?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On August 29, Tony Duell wrote: > So, to avoid confusion I tend to use 'male' and 'female'. And then I run > into problems over whether it's the pins or the housing I am describing. Pins vs. housing is easy to remember if you picture...well, umm, sex. Housings are seldom...umm, well, round. 8-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

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OT: IBM AS/400 Advanced 36

by dbetz＠xlisper.mv.com

I know this is a bit new to be of much interest to people here but I was recently given one of these and am at a loss as to what to do with it. I only received the actual box and I believe it requires a proprietary terminal as a console so I am unable to even determine whether it works. Does anyone here know anything about these machines?

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Opening a Z-19: Thanks!

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Tony, Why does this not surprise me? :-) I will definitely let you all know when I dive in.... Rich B. ----------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:47:24 +0100 (BST) From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: Opening a Z-19: Thanks! FWIW, I have a Z90 hardware manual alongside me (including schematics, etc). I believe the Z19 is a cut-down version of this (just a terminal,

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TI Stuff for Sale

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Ram, No problem! I'm kinda embarrassed that I didn't check out that site first myself... The RF mods I have are untested, and certainly not new, so I can't beat $1.00... Oh well, I'll hang onto them just in case.... Rich B. --------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:50:55 -0400 From: Ram Meenakshisundaram <rmeenaks(a)olf.com> Subject: Re: TI Stuff for Sale Not to burst Rich's bubble, but you can get *BRAND-NEW* TI RF Modulators for $1.00 plus shipping at the following site: http://www.99er.net/rfmod.html

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california digital

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:44:54PM -0500, Jeff L Kaneko wrote: ! > But the prices on *most* of [cadigital.com's] stuff is outta sight-- ! ! And their web site seems to be Macromedia Flash-only--at least using ! Netscape on Linux without Flash all I get is a hit counter. Stupid. This should get you by that crap... http://www.cadigital.com/cadigtl.htm --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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