- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Hi all, I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500 page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a hardcover version of this book and does anyone have one for sale? Thanks Eugene W2HX

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for sale/trade: big list of both old and (relatively) new, deadline: end of November (ideally)

by mgariboldi＠gmail.com

The following is for sale, or trade possibly. (I've tried to send this earlier, but it didn't appear in the list, so this is my second try to post htis...) Most of the listed items I've used together with SGI IRIX and HP/Compaq/DEC OpenVMS and Digital/Tru64 UNIX systems and served me very well. I need to sell this by the end of the month (Nov-2016), else I'll have to potentially scrap a considerable bunch of it. I probably forgot to mention a number of things and perhaps I made a few mistakes here and there. I'll try to update (and if needed, correct) this list with follow-up posts. For now, this is the list of items: - SGI systems, e.g. MIPS R5000 and R5200 processor equipped O2s notably, perhaps also a teal Indigo? with 250-MHz R4400, at least 256 Mbytes (also up to 1 Gbyte available) of RAM, various types of CPUs available, along with various other options in terms of disks, video I/O, etc. (ask me) --> suggestion: if you don't care for IRIX, an O2 would still make an excellent X terminal to any e.g. other system, too, as they don't consume a lot of power and they're wonderfully small; - SGI parts, like an SGI Tezro dual-processor 700-MHz R16000 system board and an SGI DMediaPro DM10 IEEE-1394a FireWire PCI card plus cable and manual; - DEC Multia/UDB VX40B, maximized, with 166-MHz LCA4/21066 processor, the maximum amount of RAM (256 Mbytes), large 73.4-Gbyte 2?" SCSI HDD (with Tru64 UNIX V5.1B[-5?] optionally pre-installed, OpenVMS V7.2 also works on it, the original vertical stand and documents are present, too), Ensoniq AudioPCI (16-bit 48-KHz) audio card, replacement NVRAM/TOY back-up battery, experimental SRM console, PCI audio card and custom-shoehorned, etc.; - various older/non-x86 or compatible computer (besides earlier mentioned SGI, e.g. DEC, Compaq and HP) bits & parts, think of FireWire (e.g. IEEE-1394a), audio, etc. cards, cables and such ... included are things like an AlphaServer DS15-compatible PCI audio card, HP IEEE-1394a FireWire PCI card (rare, should work in some HP Integrity systems) and more (ask me for details); - Exar/Neterion/S2io 10-Gbit fiber-optical (10GBASE-SR) PCI-X Ethernet NICs including transceivers, besides x86/-64 also OpenVMS and IRIX compatible (and tried/used in various systems, including HP rx2600s, rx2620s and a DS15 and also an SGI Tezro), LC FC cables optionally available, too; - Mellanox 40-Gbit InfiniBand PCI-E adapters (3 total), optional copper and fiber-optical cables, in various lengths, are also available; - various (e.g. HP) HBAs, notably SCSI (e.g. Ultra160 and Ultra320) and FC (e.g. 2-Gbit and 4-Gbit), for PCI/-X or PCI-E, many PCI/-X cards also compatible with IRIX and even OpenVMS, some include the HP-branded "combo" types, providing both dual-channel FC (HBA) and Ethernet (NIC); - various optical/tape drives and media (e.g. DVD-RAM, various data & cleaning tapes, of which many brand new), DDS/DAT of many types (e.g. DDS-2/DAT12, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-4/DAT40 and DDS-5/DAT72) Ultrium (mostly LTO-1 and LTO-3), mostly of brands like HP (notably), Quantum and Sony... to summarize several: -- HP Ultrium LTO-3 SCSI half-height tape drives -- Quantum Ultrium LTO-1 SCSI full-height tape drive -- various Ultrium LTO-3, -2 and -1 cleaning and data cartridge tapes (mostly HP-branded) -- various (HP and Sony-branded) DDS-4/DAT40 tape drives, also one DDS-5/DAT72 drive, all with -- various DDS-5/DAT72, DDS-4/DAT40, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-2/DAT12 and DDS-1/DAT8 tapes; - various DVD-RAM discs, both with and without the plastic caddies; - various HP, AXUS and Ciprico brand Ultra320 SCSI/S-ATA-bridged & 2-Gbit or 4-Gbit FC external enclosures, for HDDs (optionally including large capacity HDDs, also hardware RAID functionality depending per enclosure), 5?" devices and more (these can be tricky to ship, but not impossible), to summarize some of it: -- AXUS Demon SA-16U4P Ultra320 SCSI<=>S-ATA RAID storage enclosure, including 16 * 1-Tbyte S-ATA HDDs and spares --> advantages: relative low power consumption and triple-redundant power -- Ciprico/Huge Systems MediaVault 4-Gbit FC/FC-AL RAID disk array, including transceivers, 10 * 250-Gbyte P-ATA HDDs plus one or more spare HDDs --> advantages: low power consumption and rather silent -- HP StorageWorks M5313A FC/FC-AL 2-Gbit (JBOD) disk array, including transceivers and 14 * 146.8-Gbyte FC HDDs and one or two spare HDDs, too --> note: perhaps not useful for OpenVMS users as-is, as JBOD and FC-AL are a no-go, but it can be used in a larger SAN setup; - various types of printed documents/documentation (various manuals and reference guides, from e.g. SGI and Intel); - APC Smart-UPS 3000 XLM (heavy-duty, 3000VA capacity) UPS back-up battery aggregate power system, plus special APC RJ-45 USB cable (the whole unit is perhaps hard to ship, but not impossible I guess), this UPS can sustain e.g. several 2U and even some 4U HP Integrity servers for up to 30~40 minutes (depending on the loads, of course); - HP OpenVMS Alpha V8.4 SPL (Software Product Library) July 2010, including the original box and 'documents'; - lots of relatively recent 300-Gbyte and 146.8-Gbyte 80-pin (SCA/-2) and 68-pin 10K and some 15K RPM, hot-swap, SCSI HDDs (most are HP-branded); - older <=9-Gbyte SCSI disks, from various vendors, some with (e.g. DEC) firmware, with 50-, 68- and 80-pin (SCA/-2) connectors (many DEC and Compaq/HP-branded ones, relevant for OpenVMS and Digital/Tru64 UNIX, too); - HP StorageWorks 3U external 5?" SCSI expansion enclosure, room for 4 (68-pin) SCSI devices (including optical drives, tape drives and including full-height models); - PCMCIA and PC card items: SanDisk CompactFlash card reader, SIIG IEEE-1394a adapter, USB 2.0 adapter and an Adaptec Fast SCSI adapter plus cable; - Apple ADB and serial items: Griffin iMate adapters (2 total, 1 in original packaging) and Keyspan adapter; - Chieftec SNT-3141 S-ATA HDD backplane plus sleds and I can provide 3 * free 250-Gbyte S-ATA HDDs --> suggestion: perhaps useful for in a system like the HP zx2000 (if it fits, of course; I never tried it); - IBM System x central fan tray (P/N: 90P4618, FRU P/N: 26K4761) and also (e.g.) x346 rack rails (might fit on other devices/systems, too), SCSI HDD caddies, fans and more (ask me); - HP KVMIP console (PN 262589-821) 8-port extender hub, no power supply required for this; - Gefen 1080p HDMI scaler, professional grade (original box present), useful for some computers and monitors to correct aspect ratios; - non-computer items, or indirectly: professional SDI equipment, like JVC-branded CRT and LCD monitors, Miranda bridges (including for IEEE-1394a FireWire to SDI) and more, also many cables of various lengths available and also photo & video equipment (e.g. Nikon D70 plus Nikon Nikkor AF-S 18-70mm f/1:3.5-4.5G zoom lens, a barely used Sony HDR-FX1000/E plus accessories and various bits & parts and a Tamron TV Zoom Lens 12.5-75mm f/1.8 with C mount with constant aperture over the zoom range). All the items are located in the Netherlands. I'll provide more information and pictures on demand. As far as possible trades go. I'm mostly interested in lenses (mostly in Nikon F/G, Pentax K, Leica M, Leica M39, M42 and Sony E-Mount mounts), in particular fast longer telephoto lenses (135mm and above), also enlarger lenses. - MG

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DEC kit on offer in Sussex, England

by lproven＠gmail.com

A friend of a member from another mailing list has some DEC kit to dispose of. Here is what I know at present: ? Rudiments of 2 microvax 2000s, a SCSI disc, a TK50 drive and a Vaxstation 3100 An X-terminal. A couple of VT220s An LQP02 - the drive belts have rotted :( A Vaxmate A Rainbow Full inventory to follow, will have to wait for a sunny day. ? Would anyone care to suggest if any of this is worth money? -- Liam Proven ? Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lproven at gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven ? Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R)

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WTB: PDP-8/e handbook

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Eugene - I never saw a hardcopy... ed# In a message dated 11/28/2016 7:24:05 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, w2hx at w2hx.com writes: Hi all, I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500 page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a hardcover version of this book and does anyone have one for sale? Thanks Eugene W2HX

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SWTPC 6800 issues again

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

It tested good with my DVM when I first had it.. but the cap is original for sure... maybe I will invest in a new one even though it seemed ok. Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: "Ian S. King" <isking at uw.edu> Date: 2016-11-28 11:37 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800 issues again On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Brad H <vintagecomputer at bettercomputing.net > wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > You might recall a while back I was having issues where I'd have to power > up/power off multiple times before I'd get the 6800 to start up correctly > and give me the SWTBUG prompt.? What I did was remove an overwrought > modified RAM board and replaced it with a more basic 4K board set to the > $A000 range.? That worked great for a while, but not we're getting back to > the situation where I power up many times and get either ? marks, a string > of 4s, or some other random character.? I have to power off and on several > times before I get the $ prompt. > > > > I figured out how to run a proper RAM diagnostic and no errors came back. > I > wasn't sure how to properly test the $A000 board -? I assumed I couldn't > let > the test test the address space used by the test program itself, so I set > it > to run from A07F to AFFF (I think I did that right, I set the MSB in A002 > to > A0 and LSB in A003 to 7F, and for the upper limit MSB in A004 to AF and > A005 > to FF). > > > > I'm wondering now if this is really a RAM problem or maybe something else. > I don't think it's the serial card.. I've tried both the MP-C and MP-S and > no change. > > > > I have an NOS MP-B2 motherboard here.? The 'check pins' on the molex > connectors for the cards haven't even been cut.? I could set that up for > testing although, being totally unused I'm hesitant about altering it. > What > do you think on that? > > > > Brad > > My first question (and pardon me if this was addressed in your earlier thread) is, have you checked the power supply?? If possible, use a scope, but even a good DVM will tell you if you're maintaining voltage.? And if the filter cap is the original, just replace it - they have a limited lifespan.? I bought one from Digi-Key for $19.? Hope that helps -- Ian -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu> Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical Narrative Through a Design Lens Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal <http://tribunalvoices.org> Value Sensitive Design Research Lab <http://vsdesign.org> University of Washington There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

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SWTPC 6800 issues again

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

Hey guys, You might recall a while back I was having issues where I'd have to power up/power off multiple times before I'd get the 6800 to start up correctly and give me the SWTBUG prompt. What I did was remove an overwrought modified RAM board and replaced it with a more basic 4K board set to the $A000 range. That worked great for a while, but not we're getting back to the situation where I power up many times and get either ? marks, a string of 4s, or some other random character. I have to power off and on several times before I get the $ prompt. I figured out how to run a proper RAM diagnostic and no errors came back. I wasn't sure how to properly test the $A000 board - I assumed I couldn't let the test test the address space used by the test program itself, so I set it to run from A07F to AFFF (I think I did that right, I set the MSB in A002 to A0 and LSB in A003 to 7F, and for the upper limit MSB in A004 to AF and A005 to FF). I'm wondering now if this is really a RAM problem or maybe something else. I don't think it's the serial card.. I've tried both the MP-C and MP-S and no change. I have an NOS MP-B2 motherboard here. The 'check pins' on the molex connectors for the cards haven't even been cut. I could set that up for testing although, being totally unused I'm hesitant about altering it. What do you think on that? Brad

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DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

by henk.gooijen＠hotmail.com

Van: william degnan<mailto:billdegnan at gmail.com> Verzonden: maandag 28 november 2016 01:28 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts<mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40 I have a CPU backplane populated as follows, I have checked the jumpers on the CPU cards to verify that they're correct to the options installed 1: empty 2: M7253 3: M7232 (1-4) M7237(5) 4: M7231 5: M7233 6: M7235 7: M7234 8: M7236 9: empty with GC FWIW, slot 1 is only for M7239 and slot 2 is only for M7238. I assume what you have in slot 2 is a typo, it can only be EIS. Slot 1 is for FIS. - Henk

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pdp-8e power test/lamps

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Hi folks. As I begin getting my 8e running, after checking the PS for proper voltages and ripple I connected up the front panel. This picture is with all cards removed, just the PS and front panel. http://w2hx.com/x/VintageComp/PDP-8e/power-applied-no-cards.jpg Can anyone tell me if I have burned out bulbs (7 not illuminated in total)? Or is this inconclusive because they may be in some random state? Or, with all cards out - should I expect all lamps to illuminate? I have read all of the info/threads on bulb this great community has produced, I found a company with a stash of OL-2 which I will probably go with once I determine if I have a bulb problem or not. Thanks Eugene W2HX

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Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

by seefriek＠gmail.com

I vaguely recall a T-1 network controller with a 8x300 series controller in an X.25 node about 30 years ago, but I don't have any supporting doco. I think it's pretty clear that uses other than disk controllers were very rare. KJ

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VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Pontus Pihlgren > The machine also has a qbus which is somewhat peculiar to find in a > desktop VAX. I don't know much about Vaxen, but I think the early desktop ones all had a QBUS. I'm not sure if it was ever used for memory access; I know some used it as an I/O bus (to take advantage of all the existing QBUS I/O devices), and used an 'over-the-back' cable system for the memory bus. > However, I don't have the cables necessary to attach a QBUS expansion. > Does anyone have a set? What do they even look like? They are a pair of boards connected with a pair of 50-pin cables. The boards are different on each end, because the QBUS does not have in/out connectors which separate from device slots, like the UNIBUS; it only has regular QBUS slots, and those have grant in on different pin from grant out. So on the card at the end of one backplane, the grant line is connected to the 'grant in' pin, and on the other card, to the 'grant out' pin. There are a whole bunch of different card and variants thereof for this, with and without termination resistors, etc; the M9400/M9401 pair are for Q18 (which you won't want, I'd be pretty sure), and the M9405/M9405 for Q22. One set I know of is an M9404/M9405-YB. There's a fair amount of discussion of multi-segment QBUS systems in the QBUS PDP-11 processor/etc manuals, as far as the termination, etc goes. As to finding a set, there are some available on eBait at the moment for a not wholly unreasonable amount of money. Noel

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DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

by billdegnan＠gmail.com

Hi all...I am hoping there is someone here who has an 11/40 or 11/35 and a M9312 ROM terminator card. I'd like to know how you have yours jumpered. I took photos of the jumpers installed in my M9312: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/digital/PDP11-40/M9312/ Here is the page from the manual that describes jumpers per UNIBUS system type: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/digital/PDP11-40/M9312/M9312_Jumper-configur… 1) Yes or no - Did I correctly identify the location of W8? 2) Yes or no - Should W8 be in for am 11 40/25/10/05 or is the /40 special? Here is the issue....when I jumper W8 the CPU can do very little and I cannot activate the CONSOLE ROM. I put in posts into what I believe is W8 so I can switch back and forth without having to re-solder. With W8 out the system works better, and I can at least get to the CONSOLE prompt. Looking for opinions as to whether my card is correctly configured. I am trying to determine why I can't bootstrap and run a TU58 nor RL11, yet I can load and run BASIC just fine. I think I may have a UNIBUS problem OR a CPU card problem, but I can't load XXDP either to determine for sure. There are more problems, I can't bootstrap the RL11 nor TU58 manually either, I am working through everything CPU and UNIBUS too. Is there a complete XXDP tape that I can download from PDPGUI? I found TU58 image but I can't get the TU58em emulator to work yet. If I could just figure out why I can load BASIC and not RL02 RT11 I'd make my day. Thanks Bill

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VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

Hi I brought up a VAX 4000-100 yesterday to test DSSI disks. It worked like a charm. The machine also has a qbus which is somewhat peculiar to find in a desktop VAX. However, I don't have the cables necessary to attach a QBUS expansion. Does anyone have a set? What do they even look like? Kind Regards, Pontus.

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Bringing up a PDP-8e

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Hi folks, This is my first vintage computing project. I have a PDP-8/e with the following boards in this order. FRONT PANEL M8330 KK8E CPU Timing board (system clock), replaces M833 M8300 \ KK8E CPU Major registers M8310 / KK8E CPU Major register control M837 MC8E Extended Memory and Time Share Control M849 SHIELD CORE1 \ CORE1 / CORE2 \ CORE2 / M8320 KK8E Bus loads Each core pair is 16KW. There are a bunch of other non-DEC boards (ECRM) that I have removed for the time being. You will notice that I have no serial board (yet. I have a line on one). I have cleaned up the machine, removed and clean out the foam, cleaned the card sockets and card edges, tested the power supply. I am ready for the next step. Next, I will put the boards back in and start testing. I am looking for some very simple programs that I can key in from the front panel to do some basic testing. I have found simple programs on the internet but they are all in assembler and I don't yet have the knowledge/tools to convert them to switch-enterable programs. For example, here are some good test programs but not directly enterable on the front panel (or at least I don't know how). http://dustyoldcomputers.com/pdp8/pdp8i/testprogs/index.html Can someone direct me to some simple sequence of switch settings to do some basic testing? Many thanks in advance Eugene W2HX PS. Here is more on the machine as received: http://w2hx.com/x/VintageComp/PDP-8e/ Also as you will find on the internet, the ECRM boards are from a company that produced electronic character recognition systems.

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OT: Looking for Jos Dreesen

by w2hx＠w2hx.com

Sorry for the bandwidth. Looking for Jos Dreesen who back in 2005 mentioned on this list that he had documentation on the ECRM OCR system. Please contact me if you can. Thanks Eugene

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Macintosh Portable

by pye＠mactec.com.au

Does anyone know off hand what polarity that Mac Portable requires? I know that the original was 7.5V @ 1.5A, but not sure of the polarity. I did have have a PB100 power supply that I used with mine, but (unfortunately) no longer have it. Also (if it still works) what is the easiest way to image the old Conner SCSI drive? It doesn?t appear to have a standard connector. I have googled this, but didn?t come up with anything useful. Thanks, Chris...

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Macintosh Portable

by spereira1952＠comcast.net

I am not certain exactly what you mean by polarity in this case, but I?m guessing that you are asking which contact is positive and which is negative. If that?s the case, the center socket is positive, and the outer jacket band is negative. I hope this helps. smp -- Stephen M. Pereira Bedford, NH 03110 KB1SXE > On Nov 27, 2016, at 1:00 PM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 16:26:43 +1000 > From: Chris Pye <pye at mactec.com.au <mailto:pye at mactec.com.au>> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>> > Subject: Macintosh Portable > Message-ID: <00D543B1-7E32-40DE-8829-91E3EBFCBF4A at mactec.com.au <mailto:00D543B1-7E32-40DE-8829-91E3EBFCBF4A at mactec.com.au>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Does anyone know off hand what polarity that Mac Portable requires? I know that the original was 7.5V @ 1.5A, but not sure of the polarity. > > I did have have a PB100 power supply that I used with mine, but (unfortunately) no longer have it. > > Also (if it still works) what is the easiest way to image the old Conner SCSI drive? It doesn?t appear to have a standard connector. > > I have googled this, but didn?t come up with anything useful. > > > Thanks, > Chris... > > >

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Magnetic media FTGH!

by mouse＠Rodents-Montreal.ORG

I've just dug out and inventoried two boxes of magnetic media. A little of it is not mine; a little more is stuff I'd like copies of if I can make it happen. But most of it is just going to leave soon, one way or another. I'd rather see it go to someone who can actually use it, but it is not worth the costs of keeping it around to me. I do not currently have any system on which I can check the contents of any of these (while it's possible I might get one or more set up, I can't count on it, and it's unlikely to happen soon). So, while the labeling might be accurate, it also might not. There are a bunch of TK50s (or something similar; I know there are other, similar, tapes, some similar enough to fool a quick inspection; I didn't look in detail to be sure every one is a TK50). They have labels, some printed, some scribbled, some carefully handwritten. Here, \ indicates a line break. SW/gnu \ Nov 28/91 /usr/local \ 91/10/26 6.0 + 797493 ULTRIX V4.2 \ SUPPORTED SUBSETS \ VOL. 1 ULTRIX V4.2 \ SUPPORTED SUBSETS \ VOL. 2 Sunclock \ 91/11/21 AQ-PE1F0-01 C01 \ DEC FORT ULTRIX V3.2 BIN \ TK50 AQ-PE1F0-01 \ DEC FORT ULTRIX V3.2 BIN \ TK50 ULTRIX V4.2 \ MANDATORY UPGRADE Kermit5A \ 91/11/21 DEC FORTRAN \ V3.0 (crossed out and "obsolete" written in) K2 /usr/local \ 1991/03/14 LOTUS 1-2-3 \ 91/11/19 /usr/users \ 91/10/20 swTeX.tar.Z \ 91/11/02 ULTRIX V4.2 \ UNSUPPORTED SUBSETS There are numerous quarter-inch cartridge tapes (the DC600 formfactor; many are DC600s or DC600As, but some are other sizes/lengths/formats). Some have no label. Three of these have absolutely no label, not even a manufacturer/brand label. Nine more have a brand label but no indication of their contents. One has a printed label which has been ripped off enough that all I'm sure of is that it had the usual boilerplate text for US Government users. Two others have ripped-off labels; on one, all that remains legible is "tix" at the end of a word; the other, I can see enough of a logo to be fairly sure it was an Accelr8 label. Four more have labels that are short and simple enough to fit on a single line: 89/02/22(F) ISC0D0S0 TO BE CHECKED 89/02/17 ISC0D0S0 /files! execlude ./digests & ./misc 90/10/08 cd /files Twenty-six tapes are labeled with just their sizes. These are written in my hand, so I feel fairly sure they are the result of me capcity-testing the tapes: SIZE: 30605 ?512 SIZE: 30643 ?512 SIZE: 30611 ?512 SIZE: 30730 ?512 SIZE: 30730 ?512 SIZE: 114081 ?512 SIZE: 115168 ?512 SIZE: 116769 ?512 SIZE: 118878 ?512 SIZE: 119721 ?512 SIZE: 119870 ?512 SIZE: 119891 ?512 SIZE: 120345 ?512 SIZE: 120352 ?512 SIZE: 120412 ?512 SIZE: 120586 ?512 SIZE: 120741 ?512 SIZE: 120756 ?512 SIZE: 121719 ?512 SIZE: 121722 ?512 SIZE: 121917 ?512 SIZE: 122116 ?512 SIZE: 122343 ?512 SIZE: 122608 ?512 SIZE: 122664 ?512 201796?512 Five more have sticky-notes (one on the box, one on the tape) and a size sticker. I _think_ the 3.5 here refers to version 3.5 or something (SunOS is a likely candidate). -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 1 sticker: SIZE: 121372 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 2 sticker: SIZE: 118586 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 3 sticker: SIZE: 119293 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 4 sticker: SIZE: 122624 ?512 -- sticky-note: 3.5 sticky-note: Tape 5 sticker: SIZE: 120216 ?512 -- The rest are a grab-bag: -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED S.O. # INT4406 PLAN 5000 (tm) Boot Utility Tape QIC24 SERIAL # 6050221 SYSTEM RELEASE 5.2 (C) 1982-1986 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED S.O. # INT4406 PLAN 000 (tm) PLANPAK # 712 IA BACKUP TAPE QIC SERIAL # 6060238 SYSTEM RELEASE 5 (C) 1982-1986 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. -- Nestar Systems, Inc. Subsidiary of DSC Communications Corporation PLAN Series (tm) Boot Uility Tape QIC-24 FS# UPGRADE Star Plus FS Release 1.10 160-12676-002 (c)1982-1988 DSC Nestar Inc -- various indistinct writing; legible bits include: 90/2/19 /FICRSI 90/04/10 DIGEST NeXT, SUN-SPOTS, SUN-386i 92/12/19 -- /HOME/ICH 10/10/90 , 11/17/90, 16/15/90 1/30/91 2/1/91 22.4.91 -- 3/15, 5/8, 7/26 (various further dates and words crossed out) SUG89 (INTERESTING STUFF ONLY) 90/12/16 -- IFUJ1 IFUJ1 90/03/19 TAR HOME/ICH 92/12/10 89/3/8 MPAQUETT 90/04/30 89/5/1 MPAQUETT 90/05/25 (indistinct) / 92/12/08 -- LAB B YEAR END 2/2 -- LAB J A3 MAY 7/93 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB F YEAR END 1/2 -- LAB B YEAR END 1/2b -- LAB B 4 OF 4 LAB B 4 4 HP JAN 15 1993 n/u -- (crossed-out text omitted) ABBOTT INCR DUMP OCT-1-87 4 MAY 87 (1of2) -- NESTAR SYSTEMS INCORPORATED PLAN 1000 (tm) Print Server Version 1.1 IA BACKUP TAPE QIC- 11 P/N 160-12170-002 (C) 1981,1982,1983,1984,1985,1986,1987 NESTAR SYSTEMS, INC. Licensed Program -- SUPERSKETCH REL 6 ? A. PENTLAND 1985,1986,1987 -- LAB B 3 4 HP JAN 15 1993 -- Fall- 8AT LAB B 1 (unclear) End of Semester backup -- Accelr8 DESCRIPTION DCL8 (2,0) EDT8 (2,0) PART NUMBER 8-812-001, 002 RELEASE #: TAPE 1 OF 1 . NUMBER OF FILES BPI SN: 000646 -- (SUN 3.2 SUNBIN EXPORT 68020 logo) 1.4" Tape (boot format), 2 of 4 Part Number: 700-1256-02 Rev. A -- box: KEE 3.1 Genera 7.1 tape: 3.5 EXPORT SUNBIN 68020 1.4" Tape (boot format), 3 of 5 Part Number: 700-1600-02 Rev. A -- 13/3/89 Relax 1of2 LFRL system and saved results -- 13/3/89 Relax 2of2 -- LAB J A2 MAY 7/93 -- LAB F YEAR END 2/2 -- LAB B 2/4 -- LAB J A1 MAY 7/93 -- There are also a bunch of 5?" floppies. 34 of them are unlabeled, possibly completely unused: 9x Sony branded, DSDD 48tpi 6x Sony branded, "MD-2HD" 6x 3M branded, DS, DD, RH, MARK Q 9x BASF branded, 2S/2D 48tpi 4x Unbranded The BASF floppies from the above list are marked as being for sale to government and educational institutions only, not for resale; I don't know whether that has any bearing. Of the remaining floppies, some have labels short enough to be reasonably represented on a single line: QuickBasic 1of3 QuickBasic 2of3 QuickBasic 3of3 FW Macros d|i|g|i|t|a|l branded, unlabeled BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 28/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 27/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 26/28 85/10/28 (scratched out) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 25/28 86/10/28 (scratched out) ?ACKUP ????OVMS 4.1M 6/28 85/10/28 (partially ripped off) BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 5/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 4/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 3/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 2/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 1/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 9/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 8/28 85/10/28 BACKUP MICROVMS 4.1M 7/28 85/10/28 MS-DOS boot AG2012 Maxell branded, label ripped off, all that's legible is "FEB85" QuickBasic 1 QuickBasic 2 QuickBasic 3 Network Boot DOS 3.1 There is also a set of original Borland Turbo C diskettes: INSTALL/HELP A2B0427471 INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT COMMAND LINE/UTILITIES LIBRARIES HEADER FILES/LIBRARIES EXAMPLES/BGI/MISC and two sets of six which appear to be working copies of the above. There are three Microsoft-branded floppies: Microsoft Mouse Setup/Mouse Menus 1 Microsoft Paintbrush Program/Mouse Menus 2 Microsoft Paintbrush Utilities Disk and two that don't fit any of the above: -- label partially ripped off: remaining text is BL-N639C-BH P/OS HARD DIS DISPATCH VOLUME LABEL "PROD 1983 ? Digital Equipmen -- BitFax for Windows V2.08A (01/25/93) BitCom Deluxe with MNP5 v5.1 (06/20/91) -- This is all in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. In general, I suck at getting things shipped; local pickup, either in person or by proxy, is much preferred. I can try to find the round tuits to ship, but it's usually a losing proposition (I have at least two boxes of stuff that have been awaiting shipment for months at this point). /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

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Front Panels - PDP-8/L (Rod Smallwood)

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:07:00 +0000 > From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com> > Subject: Front Panels - PDP-8/L > > Hi Guys > > In addition to good stocks of PDP-8 panels as below I > have artwork ready to produce PDP-8/L > > panels. In order to gauge the size of the first batch please indicate > your interest. > > Rod (Panelman) Smallwood > > -- > PDP-8/e PDP-8/f PDP-8/m PDP-8/i > Front Panels ex Stock - Order Now How about making the overlay panel that goes at the top of DEC 19" racks? My PDP-8/e has the plastic part at the top of the cabinet, but the orange/yellow panel is missing. It probably uses the same colors as the 8/e front panel. -- Michael Thompson

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Wanted for RSX-11M Plus 4.6: the DECnet install tapes

by oscar.vermeulen＠hotmail.com

Hi, Memo to self: the DECnet install tape image *is* complete, my know-how isn't... As someone showed me: .mou mu3:/for .bru /rew/dir mu3: VOL1. INSTALL NETKIT 25-JAN-99 16:04:05 VOL1. NETKIT NETKIT 25-JAN-99 16:04:15 VOL1. DECKIT DECKIT 25-JAN-99 16:05:33 VOL1. PREGENRL02 ENDNODEKIT 25-JAN-99 16:07:47 BRU - Completed Beg your pardon :) Kind regards, Oscar.

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Wanted for RSX-11M Plus 4.6: the DECnet install tapes

by oscar.vermeulen＠hotmail.com

Hi, I am trying to do a clean install of RSX-11MP 4.6 on simh. I have found the install magtapes on Bitsavers, and they work fine. However, trying to install DECnet, I found only 1 of the 2 (or 3) install tapes. What is missing is the decnet11mp46-deckit tape. The accompanying **netkit** tape is on Bitsavers, but not the **deckit** tape. So you cannot complete the install process... Does anyone have this tape? I know there's an installed simh *disk* image, I also know you can fix the problem with it. But there is just nothing like having a full, proper install process to come up with your own setup :) And it would be nice if the last version is preserved completely. Kind regards, Oscar. For reference: A. installation magtapes for RSX-11 M PLUS 4.6: 1. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… 2. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… B. installation magtapes for the accompanying DECnet 11mp46: 1. http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtape… 2. MISSING: the DECKIT tape.

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iRMX 86 booting in simulation

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=108017#Post1… it would be really handy to have installation instructions for the 286 right now :-(

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3000 series 33

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://www.cpushack.com/2016/11/26/hp-3000-series-33-16-bits-of-sapphire/ "Looking at the handdrawn schematic of the Series 33" ? Something Tony did?

9 years, 6 months

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Front Panels - PDP-8/L

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys In addition to good stocks of PDP-8 panels as below I have artwork ready to produce PDP-8/L panels. In order to gauge the size of the first batch please indicate your interest. Rod (Panelman) Smallwood -- PDP-8/e PDP-8/f PDP-8/m PDP-8/i Front Panels ex Stock - Order Now

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A good shipping service for large computers?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Todd Goodman > Did you have any issues with customs bringing in the racked equipment > from Toronto? No; it just sailed right through. The fact that it was Canada->US probably helped. IIRC PakMail in Toronto picked a customs broker - or maybe we were talking about doing that, and he decided we needn't bother? I forget now. > Both times the carrier knew it was unpalleted computer equipment and > did a good job using blankets and strapping them into the trucks. > ... > The other carrier did a great job .. They mostly ship antiques and > pianos and other items that can be fragile and not palleted > ... > Both were very competitively priced in my experience. Sounds like these were both so-called 'white glove' shippers, who do things like furniture, etc. Those are also an option, but in my experience, somewhat more expensive: when I was shipping a pair of -11/84's from California to Virginia, the shipping cost just about doubled when I had to switch from freight to 'white glove' for them. Hence my advice to palletize stuff, and send it freight (at least for cross-continent, where the difference really adds up). Noel

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A good shipping service for large computers?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Devin Davison > I am uncertain of a good service to use for the task, i need the > machines to be packaged up / put on a pallet at the pickup location I have had good luck with PakMail (http://www.pakmail.com/); I've had them ship a couple of 6' racks (one from Arizona, one from Toronto), and been very happy with the results. The shipping cost in the Arizona case may not have been the absolute lowest possible I could have secured had I been on the spot, looking around, but.. I wasn't on the spot, looking around; and it was pretty reasonable (I've shipped a number of large items from the West Coast, so I think I'm reasonably well calibrated). And they went to the person's house, picked the thing up, put it on a pallet, and shipped it. A tip for keeping costs down when shipping via freight (i.e. on a pallet, which generally is a key thing to do to keep costs down) to one's house (i.e. not a place with a loading dock): if you have a vehicle which can hold the item(s), have it/them delivered to the nearest freight terminal, not the house, and go pick it up. That way, they won't have to roll a truck with a lift-gate to your house, which is an extra cost. Every line I've ever used (SAIA, FedEx Freight, etc) were happy, when one arrives to pick it up, to dump the shipment in their yard, and let one take everthing off the pallet and load it all into your vehicle. (But check with your local terminal first, to make sure they're OK with it. And check the weather prediction to pick the day to go get it! :-) And you generally save a couple of days, too. I have discovered that a Ford Taurus wagon nicely holds an H960 6'x19" rack (I joked that the car must have been designed by someone who collects old gear :-), so I have been able to pick up a shipment consisting of _two_ H960's this way: one inside, and one on the roof rack. With only one person, one has to remove the heavy units first, and put them in the car separately, but it can be done. Noel

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A good shipping service for large computers?

by lyokoboy0＠gmail.com

I have purchased 3 large SGi crimson computers and need them shipped from california to florida. I am uncertain of a good service to use for the task, i need the machines to be packaged up / put on a pallet at the pickup location, the owner is unable to do so. Usualy I would use YRC freight, however they do not offer the service to package the machines on site. Hopefully someone here can make a suggestion. Ive never dealt with shipping something this large before. I did have a Microvax 3800 shipped with YRC freight, however that was purchased through a business and was packaged before shipping. The crimsons will be a bit larger. I have the machines paid for, but figuring out the shipping has had me a bit stumped for the past few days. --Devin

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A good shipping service for large computers?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

we liked our winstar that was on a taurus wagon chassis I was told... wish we still had it hauled a lot of stuff in it! currently have a subaru forester... unfortunately is is not as much volume as the winstar with the seats out! I hear the outback has a longer cargo area.Ed# In a message dated 11/25/2016 8:57:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, elson at pico-systems.com writes: On 11/25/2016 05:49 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > I have discovered that a Ford Taurus wagon nicely holds an H960 6'x19" rack > (I joked that the car must have been designed by someone who collects old > gear :-), so I have been able to pick up a shipment consisting of _two_ > H960's this way: one inside, and one on the roof rack. With only one person, > one has to remove the heavy units first, and put them in the car separately, > but it can be done. > No, it was designed by a guy whose wife plays harp in the symphony. My cousin does that, and the Taurus from years ago was the only station wagon that would fit it. The others came up short by just one inch! Jon

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Turkey Day Scans: TELEX

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

well that is good stuff and your scan were well done many thanks ! Ed# In a message dated 11/25/2016 8:24:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, silent700 at gmail.com writes: On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:03 AM, <COURYHOUSE at aol.com> wrote: > These are very nice! thank you for posting them! > do you have anything else twx, telex or teletype? Not that I've run across yet. There are some more terminal brochures to come, however. Informer, among others. j

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Turkey Day Scans: TELEX

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

These are very nice! thank you for posting them! do you have anything else twx, telex or teletype? Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 11/24/2016 10:52:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, silent700 at gmail.com writes: I received another big pile of random documentation this week and these floated to the top and landed directly on my scanner: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/WesternUnion Circa 1968-9 Western Union TELEX brochures, rate charts and a little bit of ASR32 technical data. Really interesting stuff for fans of early data networks, as well as groovy graphic design! Enjoy... -j

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Data General CS 200n (Ebay warning)

by jwsmail＠jwsss.com

This system has several tape drives, and possibly some Eclipse era processor. If someone knows what this is they may want to rescue it. There are three what appear to be 6' racks with various tape devices, and a desk high cabinet. There are two 3 or so switch front panels, one on one of the 6' racks, and one on the low boy rack, may be a simple reset run power type panel for each. Lincoln Nebraska 4822.33 bucks Data-General-Model-CS-Series-200n-Commercial-Series-Terminal-Controller-Vintage/ http://www.ebay.com/itm/282212431051 No interest, just reporting. May want to ask the vendor if there is more to this, and whether a possible system was scrapped. If so explain to them that they have scrap iron, and should have sold the system cabinets for real money. thanks Jim

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Are there mailing lists or groups just tor ... (Al Kossow)

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 08:46:19 -0800 > From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> > Subject: Re: Are there mailing lists or groups just tor ... > > There are none that I know of. I've been doing a lot of work this year > archiving > VME information and firmware. > > there's not a lot out there for software, though beyond NetBSD > > On 11/24/16 10:51 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > VME based systems ? I've been given a VME chassis and want to build up a > > 68K based system for fun. > > > > TIA > > > > -pete > My employer is a member of VITA, the group that does the VME standards. I am working with VITA management to get members to send AL documentation on older VME products, and hopefully software too. I am sure that there are plenty of people on this list that would help you get a VME system running. Early Sun systems were VME based, and their documentation on the VMEbus is very good. Michael Thompson

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Are there mailing lists or groups just tor ...

by mnusa2＠hotmail.com

Pete, You can start with www.m88k.com You can email me for information. BR Matti On 11/24/16 10:51 AM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > VME based systems ? I've been given a VME chassis and want to build up a > 68K based system for fun. > > HP 9000/3xx ? I think I asked this one before. But can't find searching the > archives or my email. > > TIA > > -pete >

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Are there mailing lists or groups just tor ...

by pete＠petelancashire.com

VME based systems ? I've been given a VME chassis and want to build up a 68K based system for fun. HP 9000/3xx ? I think I asked this one before. But can't find searching the archives or my email. TIA -pete

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by chocolatejollis38＠gmail.com

Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and bounces never happen. Is anybody ever going to fix this brain dead, bone headed bug, or can we expect to continue getting memberships disabled every couple of weeks?

9 years, 6 months

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Thanksgiving Day

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

I wanted to wish all American readers of this list a very happy Thanksgiving Day from a reader in Canada. Reading 'Classic Computing' still plays an important part in my appreciation of the role of computers from earlier years in why I still enjoy working with computers. Happy computing. Murray :)

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Turkey Day Scans: TELEX

by silent700＠gmail.com

I received another big pile of random documentation this week and these floated to the top and landed directly on my scanner: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/WesternUnion Circa 1968-9 Western Union TELEX brochures, rate charts and a little bit of ASR32 technical data. Really interesting stuff for fans of early data networks, as well as groovy graphic design! Enjoy... -j

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by rlloken＠telus.net

On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, Graham Toal wrote: > Not so. By doing nothing (ie NOT creating an SPF record for the sending > domain) you pretty much guarantee a lack of problems. (At least, these > specific problems). It's the smart aleck admins who do create SPF records > etc who cause the problems, in conjunction with recipients that think these > records are worth paying attention to. The irony is that SPF was invented > by the advertising industry to ensure that their so called 'legitimate' > bulk mail gets through; it does very little to stop actual spam and it > completely messes up mailing lists and people who use traditional SMTP mail > while travelling. Sorry, I shouldn't start on SPF, it just drives me > crazy. If you are a DNS admin, *please* don't fall for the SPF bullshit. > (For some reason Microsoft are totally enamored of it and twist their > clients' arms to enable it :-/ ) You are preaching to the choir. Some of the first implementers of SPFs were outfits that the rest of us would call spammers. As for Micro$oft, my employer trashed our Zimbra and PMDF servers and sent us over to Office365 so now I spend my time babysitting Exchange in the cloud, writing PowerShell scripts, and waiting a Micro$oft minute for things to happen that used to be immediate. And you are right, Micro$ofts loves SPFs but they do nothing at all to expedite our mail through their servers. And in honour of Micro$oft, SPFs, and my 21st century managers, I am retiring in 29 days. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

9 years, 6 months

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Reverse-engineering WD1000, WD1001 hard disk controllers

by spacewar＠gmail.com

I've been working a little bit off-and-on for years on reverse-engineering the WD1000 and WD1001 disk controllers (8X300/8X305-based), and their clones. I've only made any significant progress within the last few days, after hacking together my own disassesmbler which deals with the Fast I/O Select PROM. I do NOT recommend using this disassembler yet, for reasons that are explained in the README, but I've put it on github: https://github.com/brouhaha/s8x30x I've made some progress interpreting the firmware of an early WD1000, which only had 512 words of firmware, and didn't support run-time configurable sector size selection. So far I've figured out how they handle the host reading and writing the task file, dispatching the commands, and much of the sector ID search.

9 years, 6 months

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by rlloken＠telus.net

On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, John H. Reinhardt wrote: > I was thinking of changing my email to another provider even though I've had > this one for at least 12 years. But if it's because of a configuration > problem, then other providers may react the same way so will it do any good? I doubt that changing your email provider will help. My mail is constantly being disabled now that I am using my ISP address but it wasn't while I was using my work email address but I think that is a coincidence - the problem did not manifest itself until a few weeks after I changed my email address. By the way, I am my employer's email administrator and I know that I was not doing anything special to make the email go through - no spf records, no nothing. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

seems odd some list serves have this problem and some do not out there... which would suggest it may be a matter of the way the listserv is configured. I hear people with yahoo mail complain about some list serves but they also say some cause no problem at all. Most of it is a mystery to me as I have not run a listserv on a server or a mailserver.. Ed# In a message dated 11/23/2016 10:05:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com writes: On 11/23/2016 8:00 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016, Michael Brutman wrote: >> Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: " It >> has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests for >> authentication." >> >> Digging deeper into the header one finds: >> >> "Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of >> cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org designates 199.188.211.196 as permitted >> sender) client-ip=199.188.211.196; >> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; >> dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=(a)mx.aol.com; >> spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of >> cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org designates 199.188.211.196 as permitted >> sender) smtp.mailfrom=cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org; >> dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=aol.com" >> >> >> I'm no expert on dmarc, but that looks to be the source of the pain. > > Do we have any evidence that his messages are affecting the rest of us, > though? > I get disabled regularly. My address is at Yahoo. Currently I'm sitting at 2.0 out of 5.0 for my bounce score. The previous disabled messages came at: 11/20/2016 11/06/2016 10/25/2016 10/18/2016 10/13/2016 10/05/2016 09/26/2016 09/10/2016 08/23/2016 08/11/2016 08/06/2016 08/01/2016 07/19/2016 07/10/2016 07/01/2016 A fairly uneven distribution. None repeating sooner than 5 days and sometimes taking up to 18 days before hitting the 5.0 bounce limit. I was thinking of changing my email to another provider even though I've had this one for at least 12 years. But if it's because of a configuration problem, then other providers may react the same way so will it do any good? John H. Reinhardt

9 years, 6 months

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by barythrin＠gmail.com

Ditto although my timing was odd and I may have gotten the notice prior to replying. ?I emailed Jay off list but understandably he should be having some family time during this holiday break and not having to worry about us right now :-) Hopefully there's a log or something noting what the mail service did or what bounced if anything. -------- Original message --------From: Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com> Weird I got one of these notices today when I replayed to a thread

9 years, 6 months

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Fan deal?

by cclist＠sydex.com

Dunno if this will appeal to any of the readership, but Electronics Goldmine is offering a box of 30 new Papst 80 mm 24 volt fans for $10. http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G21651A I like Papst as a good brand. I just have no use of 30 24 volt fans. --Chuck

9 years, 6 months

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Happy turkey day to the list

by barythrin＠gmail.com

Should we do some sort of tradition of what vintage computing item we're thankful for? If ?that's too much of a repeat it could be a vintage project this year that you're thankful for. I know we're all thankful for Jay and classiccmp.org. I'm thankful for my recent successful visit to San Jose. ?I was fortunate enough to get to experience both Weird Stuff (first time) and the CHM (2nd time but previous was VCF 10). Was great to hear some other visitors at the museum bringing up memories and some chatter about teaching kids about old tech. One visitor was talking about how he had a class do a sort of human logic array so they'd hold hands if it was true or false (like the battery, thread spindle/paperclip, light bulb intro form building your own computer books). Picked up some Byte magazines from Weird Stuff as a souvenir and of course bought some shirts and a donation to support the museum. On the 8.5 hour drive back to wgere i was supposed to be I listened to some old RCR podcasts I think it was David Greelish, Bill Degnan, Earl Evans and Jason Scott) lol. Probably one of the first couple episodes. Good time and you all kept me awake on a dark Pacific Highway 1. So thankful for you all too. :-p? - John

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Membership disabled due to bounces

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

no the only one that gets bounced is me. and I have to re enable it every so often not a lot though.... just sometimes In a message dated 11/23/2016 4:57:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, charles.unix.pro at gmail.com writes: On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Ian Finder wrote: > >> Not an expert on mailing lists, but I wonder if the fact that gmail always >> puts COURYHOUSE into the spam folder due to AOL weirdness is the signal >> source for the bounce? >> > > ^^^ Mis-attributed; I (Charles) said that, and I have no data to go on -- pure speculation. -- Charles

9 years, 6 months

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iRMX II lives!

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Used Dave's emulator to image the hd in an Intel SYP310 and to my surprise it had an iRMX II (286) development toolchain on it. The MAME guys got it running in simulation in about 30 minutes. Anyone have any documentation or software distributions? iRMX development stuff is extremely hard to find, esp the 286 version.

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curious claim questioned [was RE: Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.]

by RichA＠livingcomputers.org

From: jim stephens Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:21 PM > the Ultimate system was the only Non IBM written supervisor / system > that ran on mainframes at the time. You're going to have to be more specific than that. At what time? On what mainframe(s)? Are you saying that by the time Ultimate, whatever that is when it's at home, was running, no other non-IBM OSes were running on IBM hardware, all others being dead? Or that Ultimate was earlier than, say, MTS on IBM hardware? And are you claiming that no other manufacturers' systems are mainframes? What are you saying? Rich Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Living Computers: Museum + Labs 2245 1st Avenue S Seattle, WA 98134 mailto:RichA at LivingComputers.org http://www.LivingComputers.org/

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Novell was Re: TRIAD

by barythrin＠gmail.com

I think it's the hardware or server company folks might have an attachment towards. I only saw novell 3.x and up but it was all standard x86 arch. Did they support other platforms? -------- Original message --------?Not many here seem to be into preserving Novell servers and such. ?? I could be mistaken. Bill

9 years, 6 months

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Help! Looking for rolls of paper tape for teletypes, twx and telex all

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Help! Looking for rolls of paper tape for teletypes, twx and telex all widths. As we have an array of these machines at SMECC and like to demo them and always need tape to print on and punch! Size varies between just smaller than 3/6 inch to one inch wide and several sizes in between. Please check your closets and storage... you may have some and not know it! drop a note off list please to us. Thanks Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC

9 years, 6 months

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ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

by henk.gooijen＠hotmail.com

Van: Guy Sotomayor Jr<mailto:ggs at shiresoft.com> Verzonden: woensdag 23 november 2016 17:29 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts<mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> Onderwerp: Re: ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options > On Nov 23, 2016, at 7:11 AM, william degnan <billdegnan at gmail.com> wrote: > > > 3) I would not mind getting something like Guy's UA11 to test with. Are > these available? > Yes, they are still available (along with KM11s) TTFN ? Guy ------ I soldered my two KM11?s last Sunday! I bought them from you at least eight years ago! Going to put them to good use solving issues in my 11/10 and 11/40 ? BTW, my 11/35 booted from RL02. But at the moment the 11/35 has issues ? Regarding an SLU in slot 9: AFAIR, the M7800 does not use nor connect NPR, So the M7800 will go well in slot 9 regardless of BG and NPR present or not.

9 years, 6 months

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TRIAD (was RE: Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The "scrapper" in NC that has the Triad contacted me directly, he had seen the discussion of the system in the classiccmp archives. He wasn't sure how to get his contact info out there, so he emailed me with his name and direct phone number. I don't want to just post it publicly (although it may already be out there somewhere, I don't know). If someone is spearheading the effort to save this machine, please contact me offlist and I'll provide the contact info. Best, J

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ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Josh Dersch derschjo at gmail.com > see if the same is true for other bus grants -- I can run the system > with no grant continuity card at all in slot 9 and everything works. Well, the BG4-BG7 grants definitely _are_ run through the SPC slot 9 (see below) - at least, on a stock system. It's _possible_ that the software you're loading doesn't use interrupts. (I have this vague memory that, unlike the -11/34, the /40 doesn't complain if there's a non-continuous grant line.) Or perhaps someone wired them across on that slot, to avoid knuckle-mashing trying to put a G727 down there. Anyway, the wire list in the drawings show all four lines (although they are listed in two places, under "BGx" and "BUS BGx"). E.g. BG4 is shown on pg. 79 as going from D07E2 (Source - K4-6, pg. 63, top right) to D09S2 (which is the correct BG4 'in' pin for SPC), and as BUS BG4 on pg. 84 as going from D09T2 (SPC BG4 'out' pin) to B09E2 (correct BG4 UNIBUS 'out' pin). > I now have the system booting XXDP Yahh!! > I did find out why there was that wire missing on the backplane; the > KW11-L requires a wire (carrying one of the bus grant signals) be > removed from slot 3. Right, BG6 is wired through that KW11-L slot because the clock needs interrupts - the wire list shows that on pg. 79, where the BG6 entry is longer than the other BGn entries, because of that. If I'm reading the notations correctly, it shows the jumper installed by default - I guess it was removed by hand on systems sold with a KW11-L? There must also be some way to indicate that the jumper should be wired on top at both ends (so the F03V2 to D09M2 wire wouldn't have to be removed to pull the F03R2 to F03V2 jumper) - although maybe they just did _all_ multi-pin runs as alternating low on both ends, high on both ends, repeat to make removal/replacement easier. Speaking of notation, dunno if you knew this (I didn't), but the wire list for the 11/40 includes etch also; you can tell etch entries from an 'H' in the "Q" column and 'P' in the "Remark" column. Don't confuse them with the 'H' in the "A/P" column, which also also has some 'L' entries; not sure what that is about, unless it tells whether the signal is asserted high or low. Noel

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for sale/trade: big list of both old and (relatively) new, deadline: end of November (ideally)

by mgariboldi＠gmail.com

The following is for sale, or trade possibly. (I've tried to send this earlier, but it didn't appear in the list, so this is my second try to post this...) Most of the listed items I've used together with SGI IRIX and HP/Compaq/DEC OpenVMS and Digital/Tru64 UNIX systems and served me very well. I need to sell this by the end of the month (Nov-2016), else I'll have to potentially scrap a considerable bunch of it. I probably forgot to mention a number of things and perhaps I made a few mistakes here and there. I'll try to update (and if needed, correct) this list with follow-up posts. For now, this is the list of items: - SGI systems, e.g. MIPS R5000 and R5200 processor equipped O2s notably, perhaps also a teal Indigo? with 250-MHz R4400, at least 256 Mbytes (also up to 1 Gbyte available) of RAM, various types of CPUs available, along with various other options in terms of disks, video I/O, etc. (ask me) --> suggestion: if you don't care for IRIX, an O2 would still make an excellent X terminal to any e.g. other system, too, as they don't consume a lot of power and they're wonderfully small; - SGI parts, like an SGI Tezro dual-processor 700-MHz R16000 system board and an SGI DMediaPro DM10 IEEE-1394a FireWire PCI card plus cable and manual; - DEC Multia/UDB VX40B, maximized, with 166-MHz LCA4/21066 processor, the maximum amount of RAM (256 Mbytes), large 73.4-Gbyte 2?" SCSI HDD (with Tru64 UNIX V5.1B[-5?] optionally pre-installed, OpenVMS V7.2 also works on it, the original vertical stand and documents are present, too), Ensoniq AudioPCI (16-bit 48-KHz) audio card, replacement NVRAM/TOY back-up battery, experimental SRM console, PCI audio card and custom-shoehorned, etc.; - various older/non-x86 or compatible computer (besides earlier mentioned SGI, e.g. DEC, Compaq and HP) bits & parts, think of FireWire (e.g. IEEE-1394a), audio, etc. cards, cables and such ... included are things like an AlphaServer DS15-compatible PCI audio card, HP IEEE-1394a FireWire PCI card (rare, should work in some HP Integrity systems) and more (ask me for details); - Exar/Neterion/S2io 10-Gbit fiber-optical (10GBASE-SR) PCI-X Ethernet NICs including transceivers, besides x86/-64 also OpenVMS and IRIX compatible (and tried/used in various systems, including HP rx2600s, rx2620s and a DS15 and also an SGI Tezro), LC FC cables optionally available, too; - Mellanox 40-Gbit InfiniBand PCI-E adapters (3 total), optional copper and fiber-optical cables, in various lengths, are also available; - various (e.g. HP) HBAs, notably SCSI (e.g. Ultra160 and Ultra320) and FC (e.g. 2-Gbit and 4-Gbit), for PCI/-X or PCI-E, many PCI/-X cards also compatible with IRIX and even OpenVMS, some include the HP-branded "combo" types, providing both dual-channel FC (HBA) and Ethernet (NIC); - various optical/tape drives and media (e.g. DVD-RAM, various data & cleaning tapes, of which many brand new), DDS/DAT of many types (e.g. DDS-2/DAT12, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-4/DAT40 and DDS-5/DAT72) Ultrium (mostly LTO-1 and LTO-3), mostly of brands like HP (notably), Quantum and Sony... to summarize several: -- HP Ultrium LTO-3 SCSI half-height tape drives -- Quantum Ultrium LTO-1 SCSI full-height tape drive -- various Ultrium LTO-3, -2 and -1 cleaning and data cartridge tapes (mostly HP-branded) -- various (HP and Sony-branded) DDS-4/DAT40 tape drives, also one DDS-5/DAT72 drive, all with -- various DDS-5/DAT72, DDS-4/DAT40, DDS-3/DAT24, DDS-2/DAT12 and DDS-1/DAT8 tapes; - various DVD-RAM discs, both with and without the plastic caddies; - various HP, AXUS and Ciprico brand Ultra320 SCSI/S-ATA-bridged & 2-Gbit or 4-Gbit FC external enclosures, for HDDs (optionally including large capacity HDDs, also hardware RAID functionality depending per enclosure), 5?" devices and more (these can be tricky to ship, but not impossible), to summarize some of it: -- AXUS Demon SA-16U4P Ultra320 SCSI<=>S-ATA RAID storage enclosure, including 16 * 1-Tbyte S-ATA HDDs and spares --> advantages: relative low power consumption and triple-redundant power -- Ciprico/Huge Systems MediaVault 4-Gbit FC/FC-AL RAID disk array, including transceivers, 10 * 250-Gbyte P-ATA HDDs plus one or more spare HDDs --> advantages: low power consumption and rather silent -- HP StorageWorks M5313A FC/FC-AL 2-Gbit (JBOD) disk array, including transceivers and 14 * 146.8-Gbyte FC HDDs and one or two spare HDDs, too --> note: perhaps not useful for OpenVMS users as-is, as JBOD and FC-AL are a no-go, but it can be used in a larger SAN setup; - various types of printed documents/documentation (various manuals and reference guides, from e.g. SGI and Intel); - APC Smart-UPS 3000 XLM (heavy-duty, 3000VA capacity) UPS back-up battery aggregate power system, plus special APC RJ-45 USB cable (the whole unit is perhaps hard to ship, but not impossible I guess), this UPS can sustain e.g. several 2U and even some 4U HP Integrity servers for up to 30~40 minutes (depending on the loads, of course); - HP OpenVMS Alpha V8.4 SPL (Software Product Library) July 2010, including the original box and 'documents'; - lots of relatively recent 300-Gbyte and 146.8-Gbyte 80-pin (SCA/-2) and 68-pin 10K and some 15K RPM, hot-swap, SCSI HDDs (most are HP-branded); - older <=9-Gbyte SCSI disks, from various vendors, some with (e.g. DEC) firmware, with 50-, 68- and 80-pin (SCA/-2) connectors (many DEC and Compaq/HP-branded ones, relevant for OpenVMS and Digital/Tru64 UNIX, too); - HP StorageWorks 3U external 5?" SCSI expansion enclosure, room for 4 (68-pin) SCSI devices (including optical drives, tape drives and including full-height models); - PCMCIA and PC card items: SanDisk CompactFlash card reader, SIIG IEEE-1394a adapter, USB 2.0 adapter and an Adaptec Fast SCSI adapter plus cable; - Apple ADB and serial items: Griffin iMate adapters (2 total, 1 in original packaging) and Keyspan adapter; - Chieftec SNT-3141 S-ATA HDD backplane plus sleds and I can provide 3 * free 250-Gbyte S-ATA HDDs --> suggestion: perhaps useful for in a system like the HP zx2000 (if it fits, of course; I never tried it); - IBM System x central fan tray (P/N: 90P4618, FRU P/N: 26K4761) and also (e.g.) x346 rack rails (might fit on other devices/systems, too), SCSI HDD caddies, fans and more (ask me); - HP KVMIP console (PN 262589-821) 8-port extender hub, no power supply required for this; - Gefen 1080p HDMI scaler, professional grade (original box present), useful for some computers and monitors to correct aspect ratios; - non-computer items, or indirectly: professional SDI equipment, like JVC-branded CRT and LCD monitors, Miranda bridges (including for IEEE-1394a FireWire to SDI) and more, also many cables of various lengths available and also photo & video equipment (e.g. Nikon D70 plus Nikon Nikkor AF-S 18-70mm f/1:3.5-4.5G zoom lens, a barely used Sony HDR-FX1000/E plus accessories and various bits & parts and a Tamron TV Zoom Lens 12.5-75mm f/1.8 with C mount with constant aperture over the zoom range). All the items are located in the Netherlands. I'll provide more information and pictures on demand. As far as possible trades go. I'm mostly interested in lenses (mostly in Nikon F/G, Pentax K, Leica M, Leica M39, M42 and Sony E-Mount mounts), in particular fast longer telephoto lenses (135mm and above), also enlarger lenses. - MG

9 years, 6 months

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Looking for 8085a CPU

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Still working on this STC Executel and it looks like the CPU isn't too good given how hot it gets within a minute or so. The display is the same whether there's a CPU physically present or not. I built this circuit to test it: http://saundby.com/electronics/8085/freerun.shtml Using a 4mhz crystal the address lines are all over the place - I'm using a logic analyser rather than LEDs. Has anyone got a spare they'd like to sell me? I'm struggling to think of something I've got that may have a socketed 8085... -- Adrian/Witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer collection?

9 years, 6 months

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Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

what is it? looks too new for me,.... do not remember this one.... Ed# In a message dated 11/21/2016 9:30:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, drlegendre at gmail.com writes: The vintage computing world is in your debt, Steven.. ;-) On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Steven Maresca <steve.maresca at gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Someone go rescue this: > > http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html > > > > Or palletize it and send it to me. > > > > > > -- > > Ian Finder > > (206) 395-MIPS > > ian.finder at gmail.com > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ian.finder at gmail.com');> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ian Finder > > (206) 395-MIPS > > ian.finder at gmail.com > > > I'm in CT close enough to make a rescue..I've reached out to the poster. > > Regards, > Steve >

9 years, 6 months

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Fwd: NCD16 images. Was: NCD19 / Xncd19

by fjkraan＠xs4all.nl

Hi Al & list, Sorry for the delay, but the files should be readable now. On 18-11-16 19:00, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote: > Fred, could you make these files readable, please Apparently Filezilla in the new configuration needs more configuration. The URL again: http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/comp/divcomp/NCD/ Greetings, Fred Jan

9 years, 6 months

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Rogue: Mctesq was here

by rlloken＠telus.net

On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Antonio Carlini wrote: > There is a rogue that runs on VAX/VMS as I definitely played it a little back > in the day. > > I don't think I had the sources, just a .EXE, so that may not work so well > for Alpha. Now THAT is interesting! I wonder where it went to? -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

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DNIX and ABCenix install media disk images.

by anders＠abc80.net

Not that I'm aware of. I can do it, but I don't have daily access to the machine so it will take a couple of months. > > has the firmware been dumped from this? > > On 11/21/16 6:54 AM, Anders Sandahl wrote: >> >>> >>> On 11/18/16 12:02 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: >>>> This is great! Thanks Mattis, Jonas and Al. >>>> >>>> Somewhere I have an early DNIX system image from a development machine. >>>> I don't know if that is interesting to put on bitsavers as well? >>>> >>> yes, I think so >>> >> >> And I have documentation and software to the Luxor ABC1600 as well. >> >> Temporary link: http://blue.abc80.net/archive/luxor/ABC1600/ >> >> Most of it is in Swedish though. >> >> /Anders >

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ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> It's possible that they didn't bother wiring NPG to that slot, but sent > it directly to the NPG pin on the 'UNIBUS out' connector Sho'nuff; the 11/40 prints indicate (pg. 86) that "BUS NPG" goes directly from C07P2 ("Source" - you can see the generation on print K4-5, pg. 62, lower right side), to A09U1 (NPG on the UNIBUS Out connector), do not pass through SPC slot 9, do not collect a grant. I dunno about any other oddities you're seeing, but I think this one is solved. :-) Noel

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Rogue: Mctesq was here

by rlloken＠telus.net

On Sun, 20 Nov 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > There's a Rogue for the Alpha Micro. I don't have source for it either, > but it runs very well. What is an Alpha Micro? -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

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ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Josh Dersch > There appears to be no continuity between CA1/CB1 of slot 9 and CA1/CB1 > of the SPC/MUD slots in the rest of the system. Is that the only issue? If so, that should be 'not too hard' to track down. It's possible that they didn't bother wiring NPG to that slot, but sent it directly to the NPG pin on the 'UNIBUS out' connector; when the -11/40 was done, there were no single-board DMA devices. > It's very puzzling. BTDT! :-) > I have an RK11 and an RK05 Ah, you're good then - Unix V6 will run fine with a single RK. (Ah, memories: my first experience as a sys-admin was on an 11/40 with a single RK...) The standard V6 distro include systems that will run on an RK. (The V7 distro does not, but it's possible to build RK-based systems. You'd need to bring it up on an emulator to do so.) > (with the option of a 2nd RK05 if I ever get some mounting rails for > it.) I know the RK05s are tight storage-wise. Well, you can't put all the source and documentation online with a single RK (or even two), but that shouldn't be an issue. If you were actually trying to do _real work_ on the system, a single RK might be something of a PITA. > I also have an RL02 but I need to repair an RL11 first. Put that online, and you'll have plenty of room. Also, with two controllers, you'll get higher performance (not that you care :-); you could put e.g. swapping on the RK, and most files on the RL. > I should be able to wrangle bits onto media either using what I have, > or by using stuff at the LCM, but the VTServer option sounds nice too. OK, I'll probably get back to work on it 'soon'. > The RL bootstrap and driver would be very useful to have, thanks! They're available on my "Bringing up V6 Unix on the Ersatz-11 PDP-11 Emulator" page, here: http://mercury.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/V6Unix.html#RL That page (and it's partner, "Improving V6 Unix") probably contains some other useful stuff, if you're serious about running V6. One off the top of my head: the C on the 'vanilla' V6 distro is fairly primitive. There are no longs or unsigneds, casts don't work, etc, etc. There is a later version (which I think might be the so-called 'phototypsetter C'), available from the 'Shoppa disks', you might want to get that. Noel

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Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Ah! Ok! heard of it but never seen an installation. Great find! I am a little foggy on it but I somehow remember it being able to control external devices for process use vs. the usual IBM stuff that was just 'data processing' Ed# In a message dated 11/22/2016 12:31:26 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, ggs at shiresoft.com writes: The IBM Series/1 was introduced in 1976 and withdrawn in 1988. There were originally 2 models and another 2 models were added later. I always knew them by their code names ? different varieties of peaches?so named because they were developed by IBM?s GSD division which was headquartered in Atlanta, GA (even though all of the development was done in Boca Raton, FL). TTFN - Guy > On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:11 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote: > > what is it? looks too new for me,.... do not remember this one.... > Ed# > > > In a message dated 11/21/2016 9:30:06 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > drlegendre at gmail.com writes: > > The vintage computing world is in your debt, Steven.. ;-) > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Steven Maresca <steve.maresca at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Ian Finder <ian.finder at gmail.com> > wrote: >> >>> Someone go rescue this: >>> http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html >>> >>> Or palletize it and send it to me. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ian Finder >>> (206) 395-MIPS >>> ian.finder at gmail.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ian.finder at gmail.com');> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ian Finder >>> (206) 395-MIPS >>> ian.finder at gmail.com >>> >> I'm in CT close enough to make a rescue..I've reached out to the poster. >> >> Regards, >> Steve >> >

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Free IBM system/1(?) in eastern US.

by ian.finder＠gmail.com

Someone go rescue this: http://nwct.craigslist.org/zip/5886266424.html Or palletize it and send it to me. -- Ian Finder (206) 395-MIPS ian.finder at gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ian.finder at gmail.com');> -- Ian Finder (206) 395-MIPS ian.finder at gmail.com

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ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Josh Dersch > The 11/40 is mostly working ... but I've been unable to boot anything > (like XXDP, for example). What are you trying to boot from? > Slot 9 of the CPU backplane is supposed to be an SPC slot but it > doesn't seem to work Missing/hard-wired BG/NPG jumpers on that slot, maybe? If not, plug one of Guy's UA11's into that slot, and see what's up! :-) > I assumed I needed the KJ11-A because the KT11-D manual specifies > (bottom of page 2-1): "When the KT11-D Memory Management Option is > added to an existing PDP-11 system, the KJ11-A Stack Limit Register > Option must also be added." So I assumed the MMU required this option > be present... Hmm, I didn't recall that; not sure I ever knew that! (Sorry!) I spent a short time looking at the KT11-D and KJ11-A prints, trying to see exactly what the KT11-D wanted, but I wasn't able (yet) to fully grok the interaction. >From the KJ11-A prints, you can probably work around not having a KJ11-A card by strapping the relevant outputs high or low (as the case might be), i.e. simulating a KJ11-A which is not reporting a problem. Like I said, V6 doesn't use the SLR for anything, so it's it's not actually working (i.e. reporting stack transgressions), no biggie. If you're determined, I did scan in a KJ11's PCB, so it would probably be possible to produce 'after-marked' ones - it's not a very complicated card. >> You will also need the KE11-E (M7238), as the Unix C compiler emits >> MUL, DIV etc, and even the bootstrap uses them. The KE11-F (M7239) is >> useless; the V6 Unix C compiler doesn't generate that type of PDP-11 >> floating point. > Yeah, that might be harder to find, I'd forgotten about that > requirement. I suppose I could run Ultrix-11 instead (I have that on my > 11/34 at the moment) as it'll run sans floating point hardware, We seem to be having a communication failure. You don't need floating point to run V6 or V7 on an 11/40. In addition, the hardware floating point hardware on the 11/40 (the FIS) is a variety that Unix doesn't support anyway (in the sense of, the C compiler doesn't generate FIS instructions). It's the Exteded Instruction Set (EIS) card (which supports MUL, DIV, ASHC, etc) which is necessary. No way UNIX (of any flavour) will run without those instuctions (and thus, that card). If you don't have an M7238, start looking.... BTW, what is your mass storage device? RL's? If so, vanilla V6 doesn't support RL's, but I do have a V6 RL driver, I can either build you a system that will run on an RL, or (if you bring up V6 under an emulator, so you can build systems, etc) provide it so you can add it. You'll also need an RL bootstrap (again, those are available, but not in vanilla V6). Also, how are you getting the bits onto the mass storage? V6 can only be 'cold installed' onto a blank machine from a TM11 or TM02 tape drive. Failing that, you have to put a V6 filesystem onto a disk on some other machine. Do you have the ability to write packs on another machine/OS, and the ability to get a Unix file system onto that system? Failing that, I'm in the process of getting VTServer working to transfer V6 over a serial line to a blank machine (my situation) - I got distracted before I got 100% finished, but I have it all scoped out, and can get it done in a couple of hours from where I am now. Noel

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Interested in UNIVAC 9000 Series (and IBM 360)

by billdegnan＠gmail.com

http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=658 Hot business women posing with classic UNIVAC hardware and a link to a very rare 1968 business proposal by UNIVAC to Philip Morris, an attempt to sell either a 418-III or 9400, pricing, comparison with IBM 360 models. Included with the proposal were a handful of product brochures. I scanned some of my favorite photos. Bill

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ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Josh Dersch > I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started > working on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've > learned a lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly > now). A KM11 might help, if you have one: there are a couple of sources for new ones (I got mine from Guy), it will allow you to single-step the microcode, etc, etc. > My ultimate goal is to run V6 or V7 UNIX on it -- I have the MMU but > I'm looking for an M787 (line-time clock) and M7237 (stack limit > register) to complete the set. You don't need the SLR to run Unix V6 (in fact, IIRC, it doesn't use it). For the clock, you don't absolutely have to have a KW11-L, you can substitute a KW11-P - but V6 _has_ to have one or the other, or it panic()'s - some things in the kernel have to have a working clock. You will also need the KE11-E (M7238), as the Unix C compiler emits MUL, DIV etc, and even the bootstrap uses them. The KE11-F (M7239) is useless; the V6 Unix C compiler doesn't generate that type of PDP-11 floating point. Noel

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ISO: PDP-11/40 LTC and Stack Limit options

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Hi all -- I'm finally turning my attention back to my 11/40 (which I started working on 7 years ago and never quite got around to finishing -- I've learned a lot since then and I'm hoping to be able to debug it properly now). My ultimate goal is to run V6 or V7 UNIX on it -- I have the MMU but I'm looking for an M787 (line-time clock) and M7237 (stack limit register) to complete the set. I have other DEC stuff for trade, drop me a line... Thanks! Josh

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A Multibus board just sold for over $2000

by aek＠bitsavers.org

well, not just ANY Multibus board http://www.ebay.com/itm/262697366358

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DNIX and ABCenix install media disk images.

by anders＠abc80.net

> > On 11/18/16 12:02 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: >> This is great! Thanks Mattis, Jonas and Al. >> >> Somewhere I have an early DNIX system image from a development machine. >> I don't know if that is interesting to put on bitsavers as well? >> > yes, I think so > And I have documentation and software to the Luxor ABC1600 as well. Temporary link: http://blue.abc80.net/archive/luxor/ABC1600/ Most of it is in Swedish though. /Anders

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Slide Rails for Integrity and/or BA23

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

Hi I've just brought home a 42U rack and started mounting things currently in shelves and on the floor. But I'm missing some hard to get slide rails. Does anyone have a spare set of rails for an Integrity rx2620 or QBUS BA23 box for sale? The Integrity rails look like this: http://www.trademoon.com/assets/images/default/A6939AZ.JPG BA23 shelves look like this (except some missing parts): http://www.plccenter.co.uk/en-GB/Buy/DEC/702076101 Kind Regards, Pontus.

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Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Josh Dersch > Someone should try to rescue that; they're very rare... I personally don't want to get into this (I'm already knee-deep in PDP-11 stuff), but I can help with the logistics; I'm down in SE Virginia, very close to the NC line. So if someone wants to do this, but is e.g. on the West Coast, I can wrangle getting it, and getting it shipped out. Noel

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Interested in UNIVAC 9000 Series (and IBM 360)

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Jon Elson > if they were doing mostly RPG work, then a /20 could do that. This is a _long_ time ago, and I was a junior operator, not a programmer, but I know most (maybe all) of their work was in RPG. Noel

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Some scrapper in NC has an old machine Labled TRIAD he is scrapping

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/general-electronics-recycling/30872-old-comp… --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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New family member

by jwsmail＠jwsss.com

Some may recall the Nova 3 front panel discussion some months back. I bought a Nova 3 front panel just for the heck of it, and we discussed replacing lamp, and have the correct lamp info now. Nova 3 CPU, 2 16K boards, Basic I/O and Anyway the Nova 3 karma system was watching and guess what. http://jimsoldtoys.blogspot.com/2016/11/data-general-nova-3.html So now I may really be doing work on the lamps on both my system and on the spare front panel. Maybe the Star Trek gods are doing this, since we have a DG copy of Star Trek too. Getting scary. thanks Jim

9 years, 7 months

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Archiving Fortune 32:16 bits

by aek＠bitsavers.org

spent way too much time on this the past few days I dug up everything I had on the system, took pictures and dumped firmware and floppies Maybe someone will figure out how to remove the serialization some day bitsavers.org/pdf/fortuneSystems floppy images under bits/ I also started reverse-engineering the board, mostly to see how the mmu worked. Pretty basic, four base/bound sets made up of two 12 bit registers in three bytes the 12 bit adder is applied to A10-21 This all looked familiar, esp the bus pinouts. I think I had docs at one point for expansion board developers. Have no idea what happened to that.

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I knew my deceased uncle worked for EAI after retireing from Signal Corps I

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

I found this ad! >From what I knew of him he was more of an admin type person than a hands on person.. If anyone else finds something related to him at EAI let me know. When I worked for him before I had started my computer business and stayed at his house I do not remember much of any hoarded stash of anything... must be from living then Army life for over 20 years where you moved all the time.. ============================= anyway here is the ad I found! ========================== 230 Dataplotter Designed for time-share users I self-contained, desktop device, compatibly interfaced to keyboard terminals and acoustic couplers / operates at maximum speed in all directions'l includes easy-to-use FORTRAN plot ting subroutines. Electronic Associates, Inc. 185 Monmouth Pkwy. West Long Branch, N.J. 07764 Attn: Ed Sharpe COMPUTERS and AUTOMATION for March, 1971 Ed Sharpe ( the younger) Archivist for SMECC _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)

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Collection of stuff in Austin (ebay warning) listed before

by jwsmail＠jwsss.com

I did not go back thru the list for the prior discussion of this, but found this pile listed again, local pickup in Austin. IIRC, the seller was a flake listing and relisting it a number of times. This time the Buy it Now price id $999 Local Pickup Austin MUSEUM-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-LOT-COLLECTION-FLOPPY-APPLE-NORTHSTAR-IBM-TI-XEROX-TEJAS/ http://www.ebay.com/itm/3617774590138

9 years, 7 months

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Rogue: Mctesq was here

by rlloken＠telus.net

So I am 35 days from retirement and I have been cleaning up the office and my Redhat Linux workstation and in /usr/local/src I found: linuxrogue-0.3.7-roguecentral.tar So I exploded the tar ball and compiled it and it crashed so I carted it over to one of our Tru64 Unix Alpha boxes, took the 'g' off "gcc" in the makefile, used sed to change ncurses to curses where ever it could be found and compiled it. AND IT WORKS SWELL! Rogue is as addictive today as it was in 1982 on the VAX-11/780 running 4.2bsd. I think I will port it to OpenVMS and run it on my AS4100. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

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Looking for info on the imi 5018 MFM drive.

by jos.dreesen＠greenmail.ch

..in particular I wouil like to know the purpose of the dipswitches on the PCB Jos

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Interested in UNIVAC 9000 Series (and IBM 360)

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: William Degnan > for all that I have read about the actual use of the /20 that was not > what it was for. IBM used the /20's as a smart terminal and that kind > of thing. The thing in between the mainframe and something else > operating in a remote location, and so on. When I was working at IBM Bermuda (as sort of an intern), they used a 360/20 as their main service bureau machine. (I'm pretty sure it was a /20, and not a /30.) It had a card reader/punch, 4 (IIRC) tape drives, and a 1403 printer. They had just gotten in a System/3, to replace it, but only one client had transitioned to using it. Noel

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Double Buffer RK11-C

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> Check out the module utilization chart .. On a stock RK11-C, slots 1-8, > rows C-D (the bottom two rows) are empty. ... (I'll be documenting the > added Flip Chips in the Double-Buffered variant 'soon'.) I've added a module chart for the double-buffered variant here: http://gunkies.org/wiki/RK11-C_disk_controller I'm working on the prints now. (Any idea what I should call this thing? There's already an "RK11-C_Engineering_Drawings".) Noel

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Interested in UNIVAC 9000 Series (and IBM 360)

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Chuck Guzis > On 11/18/2016 10:00 AM, william degnan wrote: >> Hot business women posing with classic UNIVAC hardware > Models? Yup. Definitely too hot to be business-women! (Hope Chuck doesn't mind being quoted out of context, but it was just too good to let pass... :-) Noel

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DEC bus receiver chips

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

So, I was glancing at pair of M784 Flip Chips, on early production, one late, and I noticed that the early one used SP380A's (marked "DEC 380A"), and the later one used DS8640's (marked "DEC 8640"), with the exact same PCB traces. So probably the latter is an alternative for the former. Noel

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National Semiconductor 48-bit and 56-bit ECC polynomials

by spacewar＠gmail.com

Has anyone determined what 48-bit and 56-bit ECC polynomials are used by the National Semiconductor hard disk controllers? The DP8496/97 allows choice of hard-wired 16-bit CRC, or 32-bit, 48-bit, or 56-bit ECC. The 32-bit ECC is a common polynomial known as the Glover polynomial, and it's the same one used by WD and others. However, National was apparently extremely proud of the 48-bit and 56-bit polynomials they chose, and the data sheets say that they require a license agreement with National. The more common DP8466 supports 32-bit 48-bit, but allows the user to configure the polynomial. The data sheet states that National's 48-bit polynomial is available under license. WD wasn't as proud of their 56-bit polynomial; it's given in the WD42C22 data sheet. It doesn't seem to match National Semicondutor's 56-bit polynomial.

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Fwd: [SIGCIS-Members] Jay Wright Forrester

by aek＠bitsavers.org

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [SIGCIS-Members] Jay Wright Forrester Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 21:27:40 +0000 From: Deborah Douglas <ddouglas at mit.edu> To: Sigcis <members at sigcis.org> I regret to announce the death of one of MIT?s leading computer pioneers Jay W. Forrester. Forrester died Wednesday, November 16 at age 98. The New York Times has published an obituary; MIT?s is being completed as I write. There will many who can offer comments on Forrester?s myriad contributions but here, I would add that he has been a stalwart supporter of the MIT Museum and a regular participant in many programs. I am grateful for his enthusiasm for sharing the details of his knowledge about the Servomechanisms Lab, Whirlwind, SAGE, Lincoln Laboratory, system dynamics and management. As more information becomes available, I am happy to share with interested individuals. Debbie Douglas *Deborah G. Douglas, PhD* ? Director of Collections and Curator of Science and Technology, MIT Museum, Room N51-209 ? 265 Massachusetts Avenue ? Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 ? http://mitmuseum.mit.edu ? http://museum.mit.edu/150 ? ddouglas at mit.edu <mailto:ddouglas at mit.edu> ? 617-253-1766 phone ? 617-253-8994 fax

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DNIX and ABCenix install media disk images.

by mattislind＠gmail.com

A guy in Sweden made the effort to image the install media for DNIX 5.3 and 5.12 as well as ABCenix 5.12. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96935524/Datormusuem/dnix-imd.tar.bz2 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96935524/Datormusuem/ABCnix.tar.bz2 These are for computers made by DIAB (later part of Bull) DS90 and Luxor ABC1600 (branded Luxor but developed by DIAB). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dataindustrier_AB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_1600 They all were 68k based. The early DS90 had 68010 + 68451 MMU. The ABC1600 had 68008 and some homebuilt MMU. The ABC1600 is quite a nice machine with 768x1024 b/w portrait screen that can be twisted into landscape. It has a simple windowing system. Actually half of the hardware that make up the system is the graphics board. Unfortunately the 68008 makes it quite weak. I hope that the imaged disk can end up in a safer place than my dropbox, for example Bitsavers... Thanks Jonas Malm for doing the disk images (I am just the messanger)! /Mattis

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Datamation, May 1972

by kylevowen＠gmail.com

Does anyone have a scanned (or hard) copy of this? I'm trying to locate one, without much success. I'm mostly interested in the article entitled "Capture and Display of Keyboard Music". Thanks! Kyle

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NCD16 images. Was: NCD19 / Xncd19

by fjkraan＠xs4all.nl

Hi, Some 20 years ago I briefly had some NCD16's and found some of the tarred images and software from those days. Hopefully it survived the various media transfers. Fred Jan

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Datamation, May 1972

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote: > Interesting. From around 1975 or so (...) A few years later (...) > Not long after, Lippold Haken created a keyboard that's continuous rather than discrete (think of a keyboard like the fingerboard of a violin); a successor of that is still sold today. This thing here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuum_Fingerboard ? Seems a bit like a digital successor to, or at least inspired by, the analogue 1930s "Trautonium" device (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trautonium) developed by Trautwein and Sala in Berlin, which used a length of resistance wire suspended over a metal rail. Both position (pitch) and pressure (volume)sensitive according to the description. Arno, DO4NAK

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Doug Englebart - mouse!

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Fred Cisin > Who has some time to go clean up Wikipedia? I'll get right on it ... as soon as I finish bailing out the ocean with a spoon. Wikipedia - proof that if you give a million monkeys keyboards, they can create something that vaguely resembles an encyclopaedia. Noel (who was an early Wikipediast, until the Marching Morons arrived)

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Double Buffer RK11-C

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Ethan Dicks > I haven't even made an inventory of it. What would I look for to know? Check out the module utilization chart, either in the RK11-C Engineering Drawings, or here: http://gunkies.org/wiki/RK11_disk_controller (at the top of the section "RK11-C Board chart/count tables"). On a stock RK11-C, slots 1-8, rows C-D (the bottom two rows) are empty. In the "Double Buffer" variant, they are full of Flip Chips. (I'll be documenting the added Flip Chips in the Double-Buffered variant 'soon'.) Noel

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Double Buffer RK11-C

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> Subject: Does anyone actually have a KT11-B? > Date: Fri Sep 30 19:04:47 CDT 2016 > the ones shown in the images show it to be (mostly) an RK11-C. > ... > I say "mostly" because there appear to be extra cards on the right hand > end; whether those are some sort of upgrade to the RK11-C, or whether > someone just stored spare Flip Chips out there, I have no idea. So this mystery has been solved (sort of). According to some drawings I have, there is apparently something called a "Double Buffer Disk Control" variant of the RK11-C. I looked online, but there was nothing about it there, and the RK11-C Engineering Drawings at BitSavers don't cover this variant. Does anyone out there have one of these? Noel

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Doug Englebart - mouse!

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

Today in the age of pointer-graphics, ie., using a mouse, is a very important day: Nov. 17, 1970, Doug Engelbart, of SRI, Menlo Park, CA, invented the mouse or granted a patent for "X-Yposition indictator for a grahics display." BTW he doesn't know who coined the word 'mouse'. Happy computing! Murray :)

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HP 6954A Multiprogrammer

by pete＠petelancashire.com

I just picked one of these up the 1991 catalog describes HP 6954A Features A Rugged Rack-mountable Test System in a Single Unit Built-in HP 9000 Series 310 or Series 332 Computer. and 20 Megabyte Hard Disc Includes BASIC and HP 14753A CAT Programming Package HP-IB, HP-HIL, RS-232, Audio and Video Interfaces .... Anyone have a manual on this guy ? So far I can't find where the hard drive goes, was it internal or external via GPIB ? BTW mine is older, the CPU is a 310 (98561-66515) -pete

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SPRAGUE capacitor for Tektronix 4051.

by mark＠markesystems.com

From: Mattis Lind <mattislind at gmail.com> Subject: SPRAGUE capacitor for Tektronix 4051. > One of the DC filter capacitors has gone open circuit in my Tektronix > 4051. > It is a SPRAGUE 9600 uF - 30VDC with a little bit unusual foot print. Check out www.cedist.com - they have a pretty good assortment of these old-style capacitors available. ~~ Mark Moulding

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tumble under BSD

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever gotten Eric Smith's tumble pdf creation program running under any version of BSD? I ran into a problem porting it to OS X, in the way it used rewind() and was wondering if anyone else ran into that on other BSDs

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eBay: 1982 Prime Computer

by cctalk＠ibm51xx.net

Could ?be a number of things. Usually the seller has setup the wrong email address in eBay. I.e. they put in an email address for their PayPal account that does not match the actual PP account. If he is real a quick call to eBay will get it fixed.? -------- Original message -------- From: Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> Date: 11/16/16 12:30 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: eBay: 1982 Prime Computer So I took a chance..... Seller hasn't responded to any of the previous emails, nor have they acknowledged the purchase in any way. Something I have never seen before in all my ebay transactions... when I go? into ebay instead of a greyed out $ symbol (unpaid) or black $ symbol (paid)... it has an hourglass. Hovering the mouse said "your payment is being processed". Kinda odd since the payment was from paypal funds already on account. So I logged into paypal.... Paypal says "eBay - fishslayer40 at XXXXXXXX (redacted) hasn't accepted yet." Google shows no trace of that email address and while not a red flag, usually something is in the search results for someone's email address. I have never seen where paying someone on ebay via paypal required them to "accept the funds". They just "get them" I thought. Crossing my fingers.... J

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OT- PBS tonight...Watch TV along with Ed# Recording studio history... Thi...

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Ethan thanks for the heads up on this I will check them out! In a message dated 11/16/2016 12:59:39 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, ethan at 757.org writes: > PBS tonight...Watch TV along with Ed# Recording studio history... This > is the sounds of our music! - check your time guide for AZ pm - however > calif and others can differ Soundbreaking - Painting with Sound #102 Tuesday, > November 15, 09:00 pm on 8.1 ((AZ TIME Othere state PBS check your Sched. > Duration: 0:56:46 Description: Learn how the recording studio itself became > an instrument. From the advent of magnetic tape, chart the evolution of > multi-track recording and the ingenuity of artists such as the Beatles, Beach > Boys, Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac. > http://www.azpbs.org/previews/play.php?vidId=9753 If you're into this, you should also check out the documentary Sound City. Also there is a Muscle Shoals recording studio documentary as well that is on NetFlix. -- Ethan O'Toole

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OT- PBS tonight...Watch TV along with Ed# Recording studio history... This is

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

PBS tonight...Watch TV along with Ed# Recording studio history... This is the sounds of our music! - check your time guide for AZ pm - however calif and others can differ Soundbreaking - Painting with Sound #102 Tuesday, November 15, 09:00 pm on 8.1 ((AZ TIME Othere state PBS check your Sched. Duration: 0:56:46 Description: Learn how the recording studio itself became an instrument. From the advent of magnetic tape, chart the evolution of multi-track recording and the ingenuity of artists such as the Beatles, Beach Boys, Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac. http://www.azpbs.org/previews/play.php?vidId=9753

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General TC11 DECtape diagnostic/formatter questions

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Hi all -- I'm working on getting a TC11 + TU56 running at the LCM+L. We plan to use it as a tool for various archival and restoration efforts. After restoring the power supplies, I have it lashed up to a PDP-11/44 -- I know this is anachronistic, but it's been a workhorse machine with ethernet and SCSI, which makes it very flexible. So far, so good. I have RT-11 running and it can read and write tapes, although the left TU56 transport seems to be a bit marginal. I am running into a couple of issues, and I'm curious if anyone else out there has experience here and might be able to shed some light before I spend a lot of time on it: 1) In bringing the TC11 up, I've been attempting to run the TC11 diagnostics, with mixed success. ZTCB runs, but reports an error with the ENDZ status bit not being set properly. So far as I can tell, ENDZ *is* being set on normal operations, but I haven't exhaustively debugged the controller yet. The other four diagnostics (ZTCA, ZTCC, ZTCD, and ZTCE) do nothing when run -- nothing is printed and there is no response. If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/44, I see the same behavior. If I run them on SIMH configured as an 11/20, then I get the printout described in the documentation and listings. (See bitsavers -- http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/dec/pdp11/xxdp/diag_listin…). I haven't yet dug in to see what accounts for the difference -- any ideas? 2) I'm looking for means to format DECtapes on the TC11. I have a few marginal tapes and I'd like to see if reformatting them brings them back to life. The maintenance manual only indicates "a special program supplied with the TC11 system," and I haven't managed to find it. I *have* found this: http://mirrors.pdp-11.ru/inf.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdp11/dtf.mac which I've assembled and run on RT-11 and it goes through the motions of writing out the timing and mark tracks, but when it goes through the second pass to write out the block numbers it fails immediately, with either status 001207 (indicating a "Data Missed" error) or 020033 (Mark Track Error). I haven't yet hooked up a scope to see if the T&M tracks are *actually* being written, but given my experience with the diagnostics in (1) above, I'm not averse to thinking there may be more than meets the eye with this issue. So in a nutshell: Anyone used a TC11 on a later PDP-11 (like the 11/44)? Anyone have any thoughts on the diagnostics and formatter issues? Thanks as always, Josh

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NCD19 / Xncd19

by seefriek＠gmail.com

> Is the 701 based on the RacerX from LSI? Good question...nice shout-out for an obscure MIPS variant. The Explora 700 is, however, not a RacerX, but an R4700. With up to 256MB of RAM. Which is nice. KJ

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