28 Nov
2016
28 Nov
'16
6:23 p.m.
Hi all,
I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real
book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500
page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a
hardcover version of this book and does anyone have one for sale?
Thanks
Eugene W2HX
28 Nov
28 Nov
7:12 p.m.
On 11/28/2016 09:23 PM, W2HX wrote:
Hi all,
I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real
book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500
page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a
hardcover version of this book and does anyone have one for sale?
Thanks
Eugene W2HX
The soft cover was common. In 40 years I've never seen a hard cover
version even inside DEC.
Mine is old, its shows wear but its still useful. I expect in time it
will start to fall apart but
like many of the others from DEC I've made repairs that kept those
intact if not pretty.
There are two issues, the binding glue drying and cracking, the other is
high acid paper.
Allison
10:48 p.m.
New subject: Can do (unbound) book scanning - was Re: WTB: PDP-8/e handbook
I'm willing to scan any DEC books that are worn out and binding failing.
I have a lot of handbooks etc that I won't cut and scan because they're
still in good condition.
But if somebody has falling-apart books, I can get them guillotined and
scan them ADF. They can then be rebound - DIY or pay someone to do it. I
know at least one bookbinder is on this list :)
Located Toronto, Canada.
--Toby
On 2016-11-28 10:12 PM, allison wrote:
On 11/28/2016 09:23 PM, W2HX wrote:
Hi all,
I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real
book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500
page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a
hardcover version of this book and does anyone have one for sale?
Thanks
Eugene W2HX
The soft cover was common. In 40 years I've never seen a hard cover
version even inside DEC.
Mine is old, its shows wear but its still useful. I expect in time it
will start to fall apart but
like many of the others from DEC I've made repairs that kept those
intact if not pretty.
There are two issues, the binding glue drying and cracking, the other is
high acid paper.
Allison
29 Nov
29 Nov
7:12 a.m.
New subject: Can do (unbound) book scanning - was Re: WTB: PDP-8/e handbook
Hi Toby et., al.
Thanks for the offer to scan. In this particular case, the handbook PDF is available on
the internet from several locations. But I am sure we all appreciate your offer for other
books that might need preserving. A very generous offer.
Thanks
Eugene
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Subject: Can do (unbound) book scanning - was Re: WTB: PDP-8/e handbook
I'm willing to scan any DEC books that are worn out and binding failing.
I have a lot of handbooks etc that I won't cut and scan because they're still in
good condition.
But if somebody has falling-apart books, I can get them guillotined and scan them ADF.
They can then be rebound - DIY or pay someone to do it. I know at least one bookbinder is
on this list :)
Located Toronto, Canada.
--Toby
On 2016-11-28 10:12 PM, allison wrote:
On 11/28/2016 09:23 PM, W2HX wrote:
Hi all,
I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real
book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500
page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a
hardcover version of this book and does anyone have one for sale?
Thanks
Eugene W2HX
The soft cover was common. In 40 years I've never seen a hard cover
version even inside DEC.
Mine is old, its shows wear but its still useful. I expect in time it
will start to fall apart but like many of the others from DEC I've
made repairs that kept those intact if not pretty.
There are two issues, the binding glue drying and cracking, the other
is high acid paper.
Allison
28 Nov
28 Nov
11:54 p.m.
There are two issues, the binding glue drying and
cracking, the other is
high acid paper.
Allison
As mentioned these old handbooks were printed on high acidity paper, not quite
as cheap as newspaper but certainly not considered to last.
I had heard years ago about 'preservation paper' which was alkaline sheets
that are placed in between these sorts of old pages, but a quick search hasn't
turned up anything. The Library of Congress takes a more thorough approach by
dipping the book in a Magnesium Oxide solution
http://www.loc.gov/preservation/scientists/projects/mass_deacid.html
Probably not for the inexperienced archivist as how do you get the pages ironed
properly after it has dried out :). Long-term storage through digital means ie.
bitsavers and wide distribution is it seems going to last the longest (thank you
bitsavers).
Steve
29 Nov
29 Nov
2:54 a.m.
On 29/11/2016 02:23, W2HX wrote:
I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small
computer handbook in
the form of a real book. There is one on ABE books available which is
softcover. I always worry about a 500 page book in softcover in terms
of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a hardcover version
of this book and does anyone have one for sale?
I've seen literally hundreds of DEC handbooks, but the only ones I ever
saw with hard covers were ones our University library had rebound.
--
Pete
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