- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Hurrah for moderated mailing lists - I hope. This may be a brief visit but since I got broadband at home it's not so much of an issue now. Anyway, in June '00 Hans (if he's still here) posted questions about the Semi-Tech Pied Piper and at the time I knew where there were some but hadn't had a chance to go get 'em. Mark Gregory also had questions since he had one but no docs. In the last few weeks I've been able to pick them up and was most impressed to find that one of them was an original prototype with a serial number of 38. At this point we won't go into the fact the keyboard connector is missing a post - it has 23 instead of 24 which causes some strange but expected issues when the keyboard is plugged in wrongly. I'm now in a position to answer PP related questions since I've a) got the technical manuals, b) spent a bit of time making 1 good machine (the prototype) out of 2 bad ones and c) got a bundle of disks I can hopefully make images out of if my PC's 5 1/4" drive is working. Sellam wanted pictures (nothing like being over 2 years late) so go to www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk, hit 'inhabitants' and go to the STM section. cheers, -- adrian/witchy www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans

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XT Clone with a bus board?

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

I ran across an old XT clone with bus board in it instead of a true motherboard. I have never seen an IBM PC compatible computer like this before. Is this common? I have several XT's, but all the ones I have ever seen had an actual motherboard. I just thought this was an interesting machine. I have some pictures of it - http://24.194.68.104/computerland_xt.html. Does anyone know anything about this? Were there other PC's made like this? BTW - I hope the page will work OK, it's on an old Pentium 166 running Linux I use as a webserver. Ian Primus ian_pimus(a)yahoo.com

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OT: _spam_ (Fred N. van Kempen)

by loedman1＠juno.com

I use http://www.spamcop.net to deal with the porn and some of the more annoying spammers. They do a great job of tracking down the actual origination, sorting out and discarding all of the false addresses and providing the proper abuse reporting site, even better , it is free but you can pay if you wish Rich >> This has come up many times before and if it was true we would all >be receiving the same spam. Most of my spam lately has been from >people promoting how you can make millions of dollars on the i-net >f I just send $25 to this person who must have time enough from >making MILLIONS to spam others for 25 bucks, or the African >government scam where if I will allow them to use my acount I can >share in the MILLIONS secreted in an African account. Haven't even >got one lately from the Viagra people promising a new day if only I >try thier penile assistance, or SEXY NUDE TEENS ,awaiting my >perusal at a minimal fee. >Newsgroups or websites are still rich areas to harvest and I don't >think we are a big enough source to glean, as yet.

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Microprofessr MPF-1 Manuals?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Thanks for posting the schematics. That will save me the trouble of figuring out how the keypad and LED display are wired up and make it easier to figure out the code which scans the keypad and drives the display. -Glen >From: "Davison, Lee" <Lee.Davison(a)merlincommunications.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: "'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org'" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: RE: Microprofessr MPF-1 Manuals? >Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:09:26 -0000 > >Glen, > > > Does anyone have manuals for the MultiTech Microprofessor MPF-1B? > >I have the manauals and listings but not online. Diagrams ar available >at http://members.lycos.co.uk/leeedavison/z80/mpf1/ . If the machine >you have is the 1B then it should have the BASIC EPROM in the second >socket (U7). > >Cheers, > Lee. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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HP 1000 diag library on 7900A disc

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Jay, Do you have the ability to make a raw sector dump of a 7900A disc cartridge to a file that can be read by a PC? I'm not sure how that would work, maybe dump the 7900A disc cartridge to 9-track tape and read the tape with a PC compatible tape drive, or something like that? I seem to recall seeing some HP 1000 disk image files that were 20MB or so on the web somewhere but can't find them now, so I think this can be done. Anyway, if you could dump the HP 1000 diag library 7900A disc to a PC readable file, I think the individual diagnostic images could probably be extracted from it. If I read the diag manual right they should just be saved on disk in standard absolue binary format, but with a three word header which forms a linked list to the cyl/head/sector of the next diag image in the list. (This is from the Diagnostic Configurator reference manual, p/n 02100-90157) -Glen >From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:55:52 -0600 > >I have the complete HP diag library on 7900A disc cartridge. I can copy it >to another 7900A disc cartridge, but then of course you have to have a >7900A >drive to read it. I don't think the disc based diags can be copied to mag >tape or paper tape, I seem to recall the diag manual saying this wasn't >possible due to different formats. IF I've got it backwards (tape to disc >vs. disc to tape), then it can be done but only if you boot up DOS or RTE >first and use it to do the copies. > >Jay West _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Help Needed with Non-profit Status

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I'm trying to get all the paper work done before the end of the (2002) to get non-profit status from the IRS and the State (TX). I can't decide which is the best between a 501(c)3 or a 501(c)4 organization? Which did most of you that have filed use for your computer museum? Any other help with task would be great. Thanks in advance.

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Web Site Question (was: OT: _spam_)

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Thanks, but I wasn't satisfied. Since then I've moved on to other looks. > What I need to know is this: > > Should the ClassicCmp web site look new/fancy or retro/simple? > > In a way, I want to have a simple/retro look. > > Recent ideas I've had include this one (semi-fancy): > http://www.subatomix.com/etc/classiccmp/webdocs/ > and this one (retro): > http://www.subatomix.com/etc/classiccmp2/ I say retro/simple. I don't like new/fancy as such layouts tend to get in the way of usability. Having looked at all three, I rather like the current, but think it would look better without the busy graphic below the black CLASSICCMP line. Of the other two, I prefer the 'retro' one, but would recommend white instead of pale green. One thing I like is a page that simple and looks/works good under both Netscape/Mozilla/IE, and Lynx. For example my DEC Emulation site works just fine under Netscape/Mozilla/IE, and works pretty good under Lynx. http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html It's also a very low bandwidth site in that it is pretty basic HTML, with almost no graphics. Zane

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Auction Finds Today for the Collection

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

1) hp900 800/G30 with tape drive and cd-rom drive not tested yet. 2) IBM type 4055 terminal not tested yet. 3) PE Nelson terminals (2) model 1020GC+ (PERKIN ELMER) 4) Gateway Astro all-in-one computer first one I had seen. Will need some parts and work to get it back up again. Have finished going thru all the boxes yet so there more goodies to be found.

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PDT-11/150 on eBay

by dittman＠dittman.net

In the list of stuff in this lot there's a PDT-11/150 listed: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2077944579 -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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BBC Domesday project

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 3, 1:22, Sellam Ismail wrote: > > Seems like they finally figured out how to read that BBC Domesday disk: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2534391.stm > > What I want to know is how they used "software emulation" to "read" the > disc. There had to be some hardware involved somewhere. > > Anyone have the full story? I don't know what exactly they did, but I do know that several people who have working laservision players offered to lend one. It's just a Philips laservision player, as still used by video buffs, but with a SCSI interface. Of course, you'd need software to make sense of the directory structure, so perhaps the "emulation" part was something to run the Video Filing System developed for the BBC Micro, or some equivalent. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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BBC Domesday project

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com > >On Dec 3, 1:22, Sellam Ismail wrote: >> >> Seems like they finally figured out how to read that BBC Domesday disk: >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2534391.stm >> >> What I want to know is how they used "software emulation" to "read" the >> disc. There had to be some hardware involved somewhere. >> >> Anyone have the full story? > >I don't know what exactly they did, but I do know that several people who >have working laservision players offered to lend one. It's just a Philips >laservision player, as still used by video buffs, but with a SCSI >interface. > >Of course, you'd need software to make sense of the directory structure, so >perhaps the "emulation" part was something to run the Video Filing System >developed for the BBC Micro, or some equivalent. > >-- >Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York > Hi If they had the player, why not use an original BBC Micro to read things? Dwight

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OT: _spam_ (Fred N. van Kempen)

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "John Lawson" <jpl15(a)panix.com> > > > > Since I have never posted anything to Usenet in 11 years, and since I >have always used a Unix shell account running Pine - I get relatively >little spam. There was a case some years ago where some enterprising >HAX0R catted the user directory and got all of Netcom's userids... > > I have never found any correlation between classiccmp ad spam levels... >I curently get one or two Nigerian offers a month, 7-10 Winning Poker ads, >7-10 Home Mortgage Refinance, an/or Ultimate Vacation Offer, and, lately, >once or twice a week, some thoughful person offers to sell me some Stuff >to make my YuNoWhat bigger... I don't know whether to to be flattered or >offended - so I just delete it all. Hi John I'm on two mail list at this email address. I get maybe one Nigerian letter a week but no much else. I have a hotmail address that I also use to post to news groups. I average 14 junk mails a day ( that get through my filters ). If someone is mining this list, I don't see much that is making it my way. News groups are definitely mined and I notice increase in a few days after my posting there. I've started collecting the Nigerian letters. Some are quite clever while others are just copies. One thing I've noticed is that they like to use $20,500,000 as the standard value. This might make a simple way to stop a large percentage of them by filtering the body text for this. Dwight > > I am not including the spam that filters onto the List itself (as a >recipient), I am citing the examples that are addressed to me personally. >Actually I get spam through Panix itself, the Lists I'm subscribed to, and >personal spam - at a ratio of about 40/40/20 percent. Even at that, it >amounts to 10 or 15 a week, and the DEL key kills 'em all, save for the >few creative or utterly moronic amateur examples that I file away. > > > Just now there's a news item circulating as to how we can expect a >coming barrage of spam, and also as to how various Big Retailers are >gearing up to flood our collective mailboxen. And you thought you hated >Sanford Wallace sufficiently... > > Cheers > >John > >

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BBC Domesday project

by foo＠siconic.com

Seems like they finally figured out how to read that BBC Domesday disk: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2534391.stm What I want to know is how they used "software emulation" to "read" the disc. There had to be some hardware involved somewhere. Anyone have the full story? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Motorola HDS-200

by marvin＠rain.org

There is an HDS-200 MC-6805R2 ... cartridge with no bids and a $0.99 opening bid on ebay at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1873578018. Amazing place to put it as it is on ebay motors :).

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OT: _spam_ (Fred N. van Kempen)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 2, 20:10, Lawrence Walker wrote: > This has come up many times before and if it was true we would all > be receiving the same spam. Most of my spam lately has been from > people promoting how you can make millions of dollars on the i-net > if I just send $25 to this person who must have time enough from > making MILLIONS to spam others for 25 bucks, or the African > government scam where if I will allow them to use my acount I can > share in the MILLIONS secreted in an African account. Haven't even > got one lately from the Viagra people promising a new day if only I > try thier penile assistance, or SEXY NUDE TEENS ,awaiting my > perusal at a minimal fee. That's exactly what mine has been like lately. I wonder if that matches Fred's? > Newsgroups or websites are still rich areas to harvest and I don't > think we are a big enough source to glean, as yet. "Big enough" has nothing to do with it. If you do a Google search for "mailing list", classiccmp archives are amongst the hits, and therefore easy to trawl. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Sharp PC5000

by LGREENBERG＠MN.RR.com

I also have a Sharp PC5000. Is it worth anything?

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WordStar Professional For sale

by phillipmilks＠juno.com

Version 5.5 NOS - seal is intact 5-1/4" floppies - Complete in the box !! ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

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Beehive Terminal Manuals

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi The Beehive was one of the best terminals I'd ever used. The one that Intel used ( and painted Intel blue ), used Cherry Hall effect switches for the keyboards. I only saw one of these switches go bad and that was because the keyboard had a heavy object dropped on it ( drive box ). It broke the ceramic that the Hall effect device was on. This keyboard had the best feel of any keyboard that I'd used before or since( around '80 ). How may out there have problems with other mechanical keyboards ( I know I have a few flaky ones ) and wish they'd used the robust Hall effect keys? Dwight >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Dan, > > I found a NIB Beehive terminal a couple of years ago and I couldn't even give it away. I finally tossed it in the trash. > > Joe > >At 06:51 PM 11/30/02 -0500, you wrote: >>While looking for old floppy disks I came across a couple >>of manuals: >> >>Reference Manual for Beehive Terminals, Models I, II and III (1972) >> >>and >> >>Operator Manual OCLC Model 100 Computer Terminal (1974) >> >>If anyone needs any information from either of these manuals, >>drop me a line off-list. >> >>I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who might have >>a Beehive terminal, since they look pretty interesting (if you >>have an interest in old computer terminals, as I do). >> >> >>Cheers, >> >>Dan >>http://www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html >> >> > > >

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IUP-200/201

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "gijs kantoor" <gijs.meirmans(a)financial-plaza.nl> > >I am looking for an old Intel unit, the IUP 200/201 universal prom >programmer, with software, and information how to use. I have the IUP-F87/51 >module and userguide, and a folder of the IUP-200/201 but not the programmer >it self. > >Gijs Meirmans >The Netherlands > > Hi Gilis I don't recall if the UPP also needed a special programmer card for the 51's. I know that things like the 8748's required both a special card and an adapter like you have. I have one of these programmers but it isn't for sale. The use of these is quite simple if you have a Intel development system to plug it into. Most of the software to program things was either built into the monitor ROM's or available through the update OS. One can make an adapter cable and run the programmer from a bi-directional parallel port of a PC. Most of the control sequences were simple. When I worked for Intel ( years ago ), I was responsible for the developing the test for the newer personality cards that Intel made for this programmer. It was funny, Intel was one of the last customers for the 4001 ROM's used on these boards. I remember when they got the notice from the fabs that they needed to make their last end of life purchases. This was the death notice for this product. I'd made a special board to test the products. It was what I called a "4040 slow time ice". The 4040 bus is dynamic and needs a continuous clock. I ran things from code on a Series II. I would use the board to checkout things like the programming drive signals and the data in the ROM's. It saved quite a bit of time in trouble shooting these boards. It was funny that I had requested the data in the ROM's for test purposes and was told that it was too proprietary ( remember, these were obsolete 4040 systems we are talking about, even then ). I just copied known good boards and used them. They were always changing the numbers on the packages for boards like the 2716's. Having the code inside made it a lot easier to check that they'd plugged the right ones in. One still had to watch for upgraded software but when a lot came in with 100% fails and the code was different, it didn't take long to figure what needed to be replaced. Dwight

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The internet 10 years ago

by gil＠vauxelectronics.com

10 years ago, I was at Cray Research. We did trade shows over the internet (might have been ARPA back then). Show booths had 3D SGI workstations, connected to the net by T1 links. Simulations ran in parallel -- visualization on the workstation, and number-crunching on the big iron at Cray (MN/WI). Pretty cool for the time. Run a remote car-crash/fluid-flow/electromagnetic/... simulation on the cray (which ran a flavor of unix), then see the results moments later over the net. gil >Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:34:02 -0800 (PST) >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: The internet 10 years ago (was Re: Selling it off. What would you keep ?) >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > >--- Peter Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote: >> On Nov 30, 17:57, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: >> > > > I just wish the internet was around 10 years ago. >> > > >> > > Fortunately, it was. >> > Well, yes, but not everywhere, and _certainly_ not for everyone. >> >> By the late '80's it covered most of Western Europe and the States >> including non-academic sites. CIX (Compulink Information Exchange) was >> founded in 1987, and Demon Internet in June 1992, both offering public >> services in the UK. Demon charged UKP10/month for dialup access. > >10 years ago, I was doing Usenet and email through my Amiga (with two >ST225s and a PC-XT disk controller!) with UUCP. I couldn't do ftp >and telnet and cool stuff like that, but I could at least get a few >newsgroups like comp.sources.amiga and rec.humor.funny delivered to my >door. > >2400 bps, 20 MB news spool! Those were the days. Not. > >-ethan ;----------------------------------------------------------- ; vaux electronics, inc. 480-354-5556 ; http://www.vauxelectronics.com (fax: 480-354-5558) ;-----------------------------------------------------------

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Intel RMX 86/330 system & 380 startup questions

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/1/02 1:46:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com writes: > The 310/330 are white boxs that are about the a size of a PC chassis. The > 86/330 is an aluminium/steel chassis that's 16" tall x 16" wide x 24" deep. > The ones that I had had 8" floppy drives and 8" hard drives, the 310/330 > use 5 1/4" floppy drives and have an optional 5 1/4"(?) hard drive. The > 86/330 used an 8086 CPU, the 310/330 use 286s IIRC. > > The Intel 310 is a desktop similar to a PC that uses any multibus 1 processor, 8080 to 80286. Actually I think it will run the Multibus 1 386 card too. It has a 6 slot Multibus chassis and uses 5 1/4 Hard and floppy drives. The 330 and 380s are the 16"X16"X24 white aluminum boxes. The 330 has a 6 slot Multibus card chassis combined with a 8" Floppy and 8" hard drive, usually a Priam 3450 35 meg drive. The 380 is a two 16"X16"X24 box set that is a 14 slot Multibus 1 backplane in one of the boxes and the drives in a separate nearly identical cabinet, usually housing a 1/4" tape drive along with the 8" floppy and 8 inch hard drive. Both the 330s and 380s will handle any Multibus CPU card from the 8080 to the 386. In fact the 380 can run multiple CPU cards. 86/330 indicates an 8086 card in a 330 cabinet. The Intel 320 cabinet is a desktop with a Multibus II backplane that uses 5 1/4' drives. I don't have one of these. I am going to sort this stuff out this winter & will catalog the docs then. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Superb Exidy System on Ebay in Holland

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On >> Behalf Of Peter Turnbull >> Sent: 26 November 2002 08:11 >> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: Re: Superb Exidy System on Ebay in Holland >> >> >> On Nov 25, 21:28, Curt Vendel wrote: >> > Anybody who is into this system should check it this auction I found on >> > Ebay: >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2 >> 074514971 >> > >> > The guy also has some nice Commodore stuff, a Sony (MSX?) >> System and some >> > other cool stuff too. >> >> The coolest item there, for me, is his Jupiter Ace. For those who don't >> know, it's a FORTH machine, and fairly rare. It's based on a Sinclair >> ZX81, and named after the Pilot ACE computer built in 1950 at the National >> Physical Laboratory. > >Not strictly true; it was designed by Richard Altwasser (hardware) and >Steven Vickers (ROMs) after they'd left Sinclair and formed Jupiter Cantab; >both had previously worked with the ZX80 (Richard) and 81 (Richard/Steven) >and I think Steven also wrote some of the firmware for the Spectrum. It's >design is more ZX80 than 81 in that it's a single board machine with the >membrane keyboard incorporated on the mainboard. >I don't think there were any differences between the Ace and the Ace 4000, >though I'm sure US ones had a slightly modified case in that it had an extra >'bump' in it! > >It's typical that all that stuff comes up when I don't have a job - I'd have >all of it :) > Hi The main difference between the US and European Ace was that the US one was slower and had a different divider circuit for the video ( slower because of the crystal used to get video right ). I have a US version but know people that have the European version as well. Dwight

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Poqet PC

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

(I tried replying to this on Friday, but was at home, accessing work email with Outlook Web Access, which my company requires. The reply didn't make it.) There were 3 Poqet models, referred to as the "Classic" (PQ-0164), "Prime" (PQ-0181) and "Plus". My information comes from Brian Mason's Poqet PC Web site http://www.bmason.com/PoqetPC/index.shtml, an excellent source. The last one is the Fujitsu model that California Digital sells. It has backlighting, built-in rechargable NiCads (which often are dead by now), 2MB RAM, and Type I/II PCMCIA slots. It is the only model that can use Flash RAM (up to 32MB, reports to the contrary notwithstanding) and modem cards (only certain ones). The first model had 512KB RAM, and the second 640KB, as well as better built-in programs. Both use two AA batteries for power. There is no backup battery -- you have about 30 seconds to change AA's before the internal RAM disk goes blank. (I asume Steve is refering to the backup batteriues in his SRAM cards.) Both can only use Type I PCMCIA SRAM cards or small linear Flash cards (as ROM cards). The expansion connector on the back is a female 80-pin edge connector. It brings out most of the PC bus, as well as the serial lines. Pinouts are in Brian Mason's FAQ and in the Fujitsu technical manual, which Brian has on his web site (http://www.bmason.com/PoqetPC/techref/toc.html). The Poqet serial adaptor is rather bulky, so I created a bitmap for etching a small PC board to use as a serial connector. I can email the bmp file to anyone who is interested. The Poqet PC web site also has archives of a mailing list, with lots of useful info. The list has been dead for about 2 years now. There was an attempt to revive a list, but it is only sporadically active. Used Poqets are popular with QRP radio fans. The New Jersey QRP web site has info on replacing dead Nicads in the Plus model. BTW, the spelling of the name is "Poqet". It is pronounced as "pocket", I believe, although I pronounce it "PO-ket". All-in-all, I think the HP LX palmtops are better and more useful computers. (I have a Poqet PQ-0181, HP 95LX and HP 200LX.) <plug> I also have two early PQ-0164's, both with broken LCD's, missing keys, opened cases, etc. (this is the way they were when I got them). The newer is serial number 5224, with PC boards made in Japan. The earlier is Poqet Computer Corp Asset #02778, with boards made in the US. This one also has a "US Govt. Prop. DOE" sticker on the screen. I'm willing to part with either or both of these. Contact me offline.</plug> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Jones [mailto:classiccmp@crash.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:43 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Poqet PC I've muddied the waters a bit... The link I included was for the later Fujitsu Poqet PC Plus. Fujitsi bought out the original company before or while the second generation product was being offered. CA Digital is giving specs for the Plus model, which is what I believe they're selling. Gee, I wonder if this is covered on one of the timelines people have been discussing... The original Poqet PC has _no_ backlight, uses 2 std AA cells, and MS-DOS 3.3 in ROM. Not sure how much memory is in there, ISTR at least 512K and maybe more. There's a small ramdisk on D: for AUTOEXEC/CONFIG.SYS, and the DOS ROM is C:. The two PCMCIA slots at A:/B: are nice, especially with the 2MB SRAM cards - however I appear to have forgotten to refresh the lithium backup batteries in mine :^} Fred's right, the original Poqet brings pretty much the whole XT bus out to a connector on the back. I like the idea of hooking this up to a backplane... B^P Somewhere I have the docs from when I bought the thing, but it may be years before they surface again. --S.

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Microprofessr MPF-1 Manuals?

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Glen, > Does anyone have manuals for the MultiTech Microprofessor MPF-1B? I have the manauals and listings but not online. Diagrams ar available at http://members.lycos.co.uk/leeedavison/z80/mpf1/ . If the machine you have is the 1B then it should have the BASIC EPROM in the second socket (U7). Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Fwd: newbrain schematics

by jss＠subatomix.com

Here's a person in need of newbrain schematics. Please reply to him, not me. ---------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: George Tsiros <george(a)tsiros.net> To: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org Date: Sunday, December 1, 2002, 10:09:31 AM Subject: newbrain schematics Hello I have a newbrain. It has some problem with display circuits. It shows a different area of memory on screen. please tell me if you can where i can find them. thank you. ---------- End forwarded message ---------- -- Jeffrey Sharp

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PDP-11 Freeware CDs (Originally Produced by Tim Shoppa)

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 If you are not receiving this paragraph as part of a group message, then you are not on my list of individuals who may wish to receive their own copies of the CDs. In that case, please reply so that you can be placed on my list when I send out an e-mail with my address. The first batch of the 3 CDs were sent out and have been received. Although there were not a large number of people who were interested, at least a few more people now have copies. The CDs were produced from images obtained from the following two sites: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ and http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/ Since there might be a number of individuals who can't download at a reasonable speed (even with DSL it takes about 3 hours each at about 30 KBytes per second as compared with about 3 KBytes per second on a dial up line), I am prepared to make additional copies (Tim Shoppa no longer seems to have the time to do so) and make them available at my cost (for media, label, envelope and shipping carton plus postage to the US) and make them available at my cost of $ 5 / $ 9 / $ 12 for 1 / 2 / 3 CDs. If you prefer to have me use Memorex Black brand CDs which I have been told last about twice as long, the cost will be $ 1 more per CD. Note that all the prices are in US dollars for destinations in the US and postage from Canada. If you are in a different country, the postage will be different. All funds received will be considered to be a gift. Note that the images at Tim's site are ".bz2" files while the images at classiccmp are ".gz" images. For myself (Windows 98 and Netscape 4.78) DOES NOT WORK with the ".gz" images (since the file is automatically expanded - and the result is incorrect), but Carlos Murillo sent me a Windows 98 version of wget which does work, I suppose on any file. If you need help and are running Windows 98 or a compatible OS, I can send you copies of both "bzip2.exe" and "MD5.exe", but not for others OSs. For other OSs (and Windows 98) for bzip2 programs, see: http://sources.redhat.com/bzip2/ and click on either: PC, Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP PC, Windows 95/98/NT/2000. for bzip2.exe - I was advised to use the second older version and did - it worked fine under Windows 98. For MD5 programs, see either: ftp://ftp.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/crypto/md5/ http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/ I obtained my MD5 programs at the first site. By the way, for myself, I would VERY much appreciate being in touch with all individuals who have a copy of the RT-11 Freeware CD V2.0 so that we might exchange information about RT-11. Tim Shoppa felt that he might be violating privacy concerns if he made the names, of those who ordered the CD, available. I don't see it that way, so if you want your name to be known along with the other individuals (or not as the case may be - i.e. restrict that you have a copy of the RT-11 CD to ONLY specified individuals such as possibly just myself) so that you can receive interesting information about new developments in RT-11 and the status of the operating system, then PLEASE contact me so that we can share information. Also state if you want to be known to the entire group of just to specified individuals such as myself. Some of you have already expressed an interest in the CDs. I hope that I have sent a personal copy of this post. If you sent a request for my snail mail address and I somehow missed you, please send me your request again. I am now ready to burn a second batch of the CDs. If you wish to have a set, please reply and I will send you my snail mail address if you are interested. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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Fw: Tell your friends: Free hardware

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Culled from c.s.s.h... No affiliation, replys to author, yadda yadda yadda... Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "bolt thrower" <tucansam(a)whodis.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.workstati on Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: Tell your friends: Free hardware > i have a bunch of free sun, sgi, cisco, and other gear that i need to get > rid of. you have to come get it. i'm not going to reserve anything, you > show up here first, you get to take whatever you want. bring a truck -- > hell, bring two! i am in petaluma, california, 70 minutes north of san > fran, in sonoma county. i'm home in the evenings. next sunday, anything > that is left is going to the dump, so please, PLEASE come and take this > stuff away. > > * one sgi 20" monitor, granite, with cable and remote, works perfectly. i > was using it on my indigo. i am keeping my indigo boxed up for use later, > but can't really see keeping this giant monitor around. > > * one same as above with a little blur in one of the corners. i don't > know which of the two monitors it is (i am dumb and didn't mark the bad > one) and i don't have an sgi readily available to test it. come and take > your chances, or just grab both. please? > > * one sun 16" monitor with cable. had it on my ultra2. works fine. a > little small by today's standards, and just a tad on the dim side, works > great. > > * sun a1000 disk array. with three trays, a gang of 2gb disks in sleds, > some extra controller parts, some cables, and whatever else i can come up > with. it powers up. lots of drives spin and it sounds cool. that's all > i know. > > * a bunch of SPARC stuff. keyboards, mice, whatever. I have a SPARCcard > somewhere. I'm not sure if it works, but it sure looks cool. ome and > get it and hang it in your cube. you boss will give you a raise for being > such a geek. > > * some token ring and fddi stuff. concentrators and cables and nics and > what not. > > * whatever ethernet stuff i can find (little netgear type hubs, swithces, > blah blah) > > i have a whole closet full of stuff that i am cleaning out so i may post a > follow up to this message if i find more big stuff. otherwise basically > you can expect to find a large pile of crap sitting in the middle of my > living room, and you and some pals can come and get whatever you want. > the more you take the happier you'll be, i promise. if you come and take > _all_ of it, you will be destined to live a long life, and beautiful women > will want to be with you. > > its all free, but if you feel compelled to give me something in return, i > am looking for reloading equipment and 9mm and .40 S&W ammo. beer is > always good, too. > > yay! > > email me at jmw _at_ panix _dot_ com to arrange for you to come up here. > if you don't live in the bay area but know someone who does, send this to > them, ok? > > thanks.

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Beehive Terminal Manuals (SYM-1 Power Connector)

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

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Intel RMX 86/330 system & 380 startup questions

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I have a Intel RMX 330 that was working last I ran it (about 1992). I also have a 380 in two cabinets that worked also. I just moved my stuff in the storage locker and ran across them. I have docs and maybe disks. I also have lots of parts for 310s. Any suggestions for starting up the 3450 Priam Hard drives that haven't run in 10 years. I would love to fire both the 330 and the 380 up. They are fully equiped. I think the 380 has a 80286 Multibus card in it. Not sure what format the floppys are. I will see if I can find the information. Who else in the group is into Multibus I? Paxton Astoria, Oregon USA

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XT Clone with a bus board?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 12:38 PM 12/1/02 -0500, Pat wrote: >On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote: > >> Hmm, my Zenith XT wasn't as wide as an IBM XT but was taller. I >> wouldn't compare it to an AT, although the later 386 Zeniths I saw had a >> csse comparable in size to IBM AT. It was the later 386's that were >> supposed to be able to fall off of a moving truck, as I was told. >> >> My Zenith XT has 3 drive bays, one on top of the other. I can't tell if >> Sarks computer does or not. > >Never mind, you're right. I've only seen one with a 'narrow but tall' >case before, and it was laying in pieces at the time. > >> > >> > Of course, there are also newer machines with passive backplanes, I think >> > JDR microdevices has sold 'the parts' for ISA and PCI (PIC/MG?) passive >> > backplane machines. >> >> Do you mean those rack mount multiple computers in one case type things? > >No, just a single ISA or PCI backplane (or both) that had a single >processor card and several slots for I/O cards. I'm not sure if JDR still >carries the, I haven't seen their catalog in at least 5 years. Yes, you could mount more than one system in those cases. I had about 30 Advantech rackmount systems that had 15(?) slot backplanes and the backplanes were divided into two sections. You could run a separate CPU and I/O cards in each section. The power supply was common as I recall. Several of these system had HP-IB cards and each computer was linked to the other one in the same case by HP-IB! Joe

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FS/FF More clearing out and sorting

by fernande＠internet1.net

All items $1.00 plus shipping unless otherwise specified. -Aldus Photostlyer Special Edition 2.0 for Windows (on 3.5" floppies) -Risk World Conquest Game (like the board game) for the IBM PC, XT, AT (on 5.25" floppy with a copy on 1.44) -PW2 Unisys Multiple Port Board, has two 16C452 serial ports and 1 parallel port, with driver disk, cable, and manual -Diamond SpeedStar Pro VLB -3Com Etherlink III 3C509TP (ISA) -Gateway ISA video card with docs and drivers (5.25" HD), ATI Ultra/A, ATI 38800-1 -Digi AccelePort 16-bit ISA dual serial port board 16C650 uarts, may not be function, with docs -486 AT motherboard model 486-PVT, I think it is a FIC, 7 slots, 2 with VLB extensions, socket 3 -generic PC plastic adjustable sidestand -1/2 a check box full of XT type memory -13 CD/DVD/etc. jewl cases (the kind that break easily) -decently built 5.25" bay to 3.5" floppy converter from old Gateway 386..... much better than the little flimsy things at the computer shows. -Dual EISA ISA (takes two slot) video card from Matrox, video out is 13w3, video in is db9. Matrox doesn't know what I have...... "Impress/Ultra", doesn't match any name on there web site exactly, and doesn't match description on the "Impress". It is very impressive looking :-) I do have one lead on drivers for it, but I don't have an EISA system anymore, to try it. $5 -Teac 32x cd-rom model CD-532-E (IDE, barely used) $15 -"The Longest Day" on RCA Selectavision Video Disk (CED) (2 disk set) -"Tora Tora Tora" on RCA Selectavision Video Disk (CED) (2 disk set) -Paradise/WD 16 bit or 8 bit ISA 256K VGA card -Alaska by James A. Michener, hard cover, a bit musty smelling, but not too bad. -Compaq AGP 3DFX card -IBM XT motherboard, supposed to be last bios revison, and was purchased by me as such. $10 For pick up only: -large AT server case built by Tandy, for Grid, for the Government. This case will hold a fullsize AT MB without it being underneath any drive bays or the power supply. Power supply has temp sensor and will adjust fan speed. Many drive bays. Very Nice case, I just don't need it anymore. Originally housed a EISA bussed 486. $10 Please reply off list Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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What is the Q/UniBus board set?

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. I got this Q/UniBus board set: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/qbus_1.jpg (105 kB) http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/qbus_2.jpg (128 kB) The first is the top card (towards CPU). I think it is QBus, as I got it together with some other QBus / MicroVAX stuff. On these cards are: lots of TTL ICs and PALs 4 x TS2901 (=AMD 2901 bit slice?) 1 x 2910 1 x DEC 010B 19-14038 I 8415 (The DIP 20 with golden heat spreader) 10 x AM27S35 (Microcode PROM?) 2 x Harris D1-15530-9 2 x "Transceiver" 1 x DC/DC converter. 2 x 82S09N 8039 2 x V61C16P16 1 x 10 pin IDC connector (upper left on bottom card) There is a cabinet kit with two BNC connectos and two blue koax cables, labled A and B that connects to the 10 pin IDC connector. The two cards are interconnected with two 40 pin ribbon cables. This numbers are on the PCB: 5079322-001E 5079312-001F 5079310-001 5079320-001 What is this? -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> > I just wish the internet was around 10 years ago. > > Fortunately, it was. Well, yes, but not everywhere, and _certainly_ not for everyone. --fred

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Ben wrote: > > *If the answer is 'the couch' then you've lost it. > I thought 'the wife' would be when you lost it. Usually, getting rid of the wife doesn't make a lot of room for new machines. There _is_, however, a good chance of ending up with more cash to spend on 'em... :) --fred (doing only DEC PDP-11/VAX/Networking himself..)

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

John Allain wrote: > And, ultimately 'what will I have to throw out to keep it?'* > ... > *If the answer is 'the couch' then you've lost it. I know several people who seem to have no problem dropping furniture in favor of Good Iron, _provided_ the iron looks or smells good enough for a livingroom or bedroom :) (no, not me... I prefer the soft couch.. ;-) --f

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by mtapley＠swri.edu

On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Lawrence Walker wrote: > I am at a point where I am thinking about divesting myself of the > majority of my computer collection. Good luck! I'm not aware of anyone successfully doing this. But in weaker moments, I've considered it. Here's my choice(s) 1) Find a worthy recipient willing to take it *all*. Keep a modern machine only, make a clean break. Farewell. 2) Pick the minimum combination of machines that will do the things you *need* to do, then get rid of the rest. This may default to option 1). (It wouldn't in my case - the Mac Plus still has many games I consider indispensable, and the NeXT is my only Mathematica platform (and is thus heavily used at work). But I couldn't justify keeping my Rainbow, for example.) 3) Pick the minimum combination of machines that'll still do all or most of the things your current collection will do. Rainbow is good here, because it'll do both CP/M and DOS; Could argue that a NeXT with SoftWindows and Daydream covers three operating systems (Mac, Win, Unix) as well as NeXTStep. For Macs, a II and a G4, will probably run all of your Mac software, etc. 4) Take two aspirin and wait for the aberration (getting out of classic collecting) to pass. You'll feel horrible if you give it all away and then start trying to re-assemble a collection. - Mark

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Computer Timeline

by marvin＠rain.org

There used to be a comprehensive timeline of computers available online, but I have been unable to find it. It might have been put out by Hans Pufal, but I'm not sure. Anyone have a link to such a list?

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DSSI cable needed

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Oops-- You're right, of course. Can't wait to get 'em spinning... >Can the OpenVMS page file (or whatever it's called) span disks? No, but you can create multiple page files (up to 4 IIRC) so you can spread stuff around that way. Antonio

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XT Clone with a bus board?

by f.heite＠hccnet.nl

>I ran across an old XT clone with bus board in it instead of a true >motherboard. I have never seen an IBM PC compatible computer like this >before. Is this common? The first 286 and 386 systems of the Dutch manufacturer Tulip were built with this design (resp. AT Compact and AT 386). In the AT 386 the processor was on one board, and the memory on another. They had special connectors at the top side of the boards to connect the CPU board to the (one or two) memory boards. Freek.

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8" Hard drive on PC

by rmx_sys86＠hotmail.com

Hi guys!, Go easy on me, I'm new here and don't know the ropes yet :S I have an old Intel RMX Sys86/330 system (white cabinet)which I'd got working a few years back, but has fallen over again. All I'm really interested in is getting the data (mostly ASM source)on the hard drive onto a PC. I also have boxes full (heaps!) of 8" floppies for this system that I'd like to get the data off and over to a PC. I've searched classiccmp archives and google and can't find quite what I'm after, though I did find ppl trying to run 3.5" and 5.25" fdd's on 8" systems. What I'd like to be able to do is connect my 8" HDD to a PC and D/L all the data directly - likewise with the 8" FDD. Am I wasting my time, or is this possible? Making interfaces / electronics is no problem, and I have all the gear like CRO, logic probe, etc. Hard drive is - Priam Model 3450-10 8" HDD Floppy disk drive is - Mitsubishi Model M2894-63D June 83 8" FDD I believe this is DSDD based on some of the disks I have. Any help would be appreciated Regards Grant Mc :o) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Free/Sale software, hardware, DEC, PC, A2

by fernande＠internet1.net

Free plus shipping: - Moon Patrol for the IBM PC in box - Electronics Arts Chessmaster 2000 for the Apple // series - Sublogic Flight Simulater II for the Apple // series - Magic Windows //e some non-original disks, with manual - AC 120mm 10 blade fan (loud and vibrates a bit too much for solid mounting I think, real nice fan though) Forsale, plus shipping: - Unopened NIB Adaptec SCSI channel AHA-1640 Microchannel (MCA) adapter $10 - 2 fan trays for the R400X DEC expansion chassis with fans $15 for both - SCO Open Desktop 2.0.0 on Qic tape with license certificate $5 Please reply off list Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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OT - Thinkpad 760CD

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Push the cover latches the other way from opening the top. This unlatches the keyboard which is hinged at the back and folds up from the front. The hard drive, battery and CD reside there. Pull the HD up from the back by the little wire handle. Usually you can replace the HD in the HD carrier. Paxton Astoria, OR

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DSSI cable needed

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Just picked up a R400X loaded with RF-72s (Thanks, Ethan!), includes a terminator but no cable. :( I want to plug it in to my VAX 4000 200, since that's the only VAX I have with DSSI. A DEC part number that starts with BC21M- is what I need, if anyone has a spare they'd like to part with. Thanks! Bob

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 30, 17:57, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: > > > I just wish the internet was around 10 years ago. > > > > Fortunately, it was. > Well, yes, but not everywhere, and _certainly_ not for everyone. By the late '80's it covered most of Western Europe and the States including non-academic sites. CIX (Compulink Information Exchange) was founded in 1987, and Demon Internet in June 1992, both offering public services in the UK. Demon charged UKP10/month for dialup access. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT: _spam_

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Hi all, I have been checking some dates, and I'm quite sure that someone on this list isn't for real, but a spam-address-collector instead. If I post something on this list, I get spam pretty soon thereafter. And yes, I varied my sender address (a little), and it takes over that spelling. Can the ListMaster check on this, possibly by having us all do a manual "yes, I am here" reply or somesuch? Thanks, Fred

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IUP-200/201

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I have one that's not working and that I haven't had time to fix. They also show up on E-bay periodicly, in fact, I think one was on there just recently. I MAY have a manual for it, I'll have to look. Joe At 09:03 PM 11/30/02 +0100, you wrote: >I am looking for an old Intel unit, the IUP 200/201 universal prom >programmer, with software, and information how to use. I have the IUP-F87/51 >module and userguide, and a folder of the IUP-200/201 but not the programmer >it self. > >Gijs Meirmans >The Netherlands > >

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Microprofessr MPF-1 Manuals?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Does anyone have manuals for the MultiTech Microprofessor MPF-1B? This is a Z-80 single board computer with a keypad and six 7-segment LEDs for the display. I picked one up as my first Z-80 system to mess around with. I dumped the EPROM image and have started to unassemble it, but of course it would be quicker to just read the monitor source if someone has a copy of the monitor listing manual. I suppose I would learn more figuring out how it works on my on than by reading the manuals. I did some web searching and couldn't find manuals anywhere, but apparently these are still being made today by a UK company that acquired the rights to the design. http://www.flite.co.uk/micros/mpf-1b.html Actually what I really have is an E&L Insturments FOX MT-80Z which is a MPF-1B grafted to an expansion board with a prototype area. I can't find any docs on the web for those either. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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The internet 10 years ago (was Re: Selling it off. What would you keep ?)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 30, 10:34, Ethan Dicks wrote: > 10 years ago, I was doing Usenet and email through my Amiga (with two > ST225s and a PC-XT disk controller!) with UUCP. I couldn't do ftp > and telnet and cool stuff like that, but I could at least get a few > newsgroups like comp.sources.amiga and rec.humor.funny delivered to my > door. > > 2400 bps, 20 MB news spool! Those were the days. Not. Ten years ago, I was still relying on bulletin boards most of the time. I well remember using the dialup provided by Lancaster University (what was HENSA and is now the UK Mirror service), and realising that some distribution I needed was going to take several hours to download. Luckily, I had a friend at York who could use FTP over a JANET link :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 30, 19:31, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: > For regular people, I doubt one could get a decent and affordable conn in > 1992 in the UK, Pete. Thats why Cliff started doing UUCP first :) But you *could* -- that was my point. In 1992, Demon made that possible with dialup IP (not UUCP), and it grew very quickly, from an initial base of 200 users. At least one of my friends had an account back then -- I know, because I used it. And by 1994 when I started at York University, Demon Internet was well enough established that several students had dialup accounts, and other companies had followed Demon's lead and produced a very competitive market. CIX did it before that, though it was restricted, as you suggest. And I'm not sure when they moved from UUCP to whatever else they did. The company I worked for at the time had .co.uk accounts in 1989 or 1990 (but I don't know who the provider was). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Free to a good home - Tricom Custodian II Network Security System - UK

by dave＠naffnet.org.uk

I have a Tricom Custodian II Network Security System (dialback system) that needs a good home. The system has redundant power supplies, one Supervisory Module and four Line Modules to give dialback on eight lines. Cables and manual included. Available for shipping costs only, or delivered for a couple of pints if you are local to me (East Berkshire). Cheers, Dave.

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The Computer Garage Sale

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

Anyone know what happened to Jim Willing? I've yet to receive the part I ordered from the Computer Garage Sale and emails have gone unanswered. -- Christopher L McNabb Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.1356N 80.4272N GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by lgwalker＠mts.net

Oops. Forgot the Apples. A serious decision between a highly loaded A2 Plus, GS with 5.25 and 3.5 floppies, Mac 512 with heavy upgrade, and Mac IIc that I have affection for. And then their are the Zines and docs. sighhh. Not easy. Lawrence lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

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Optical paper tape readers

by rmx_sys86＠hotmail.com

Re: Optical paper tape readers I have a number of PTR's from industrial controllers (my field). Smallish Facit units (about 2.5"h x 4"w x 3.5" deep) - late 70's / early 80's model ? Mod 4032 (have circuits diagrams and an interface unit for this, and also a diagram I made to interface to bi-directional PC printer port.) I also have one or two older Remex units that's a little bit bigger (about 5" x 4"), quite robust - mid / late 70's model. These mounted on a 19"rackmount plate with power supply (240V input) and a pulse generator to simulate step pulses (though this can be bypassed). and some very modern looking (mid 80's) units from Data Specialties Model R150. These are really cute little units, only about 2.5" all round and weigh nothing. They have a led light source too, so no filament burnout. These have an external interface board about 3" square to link to TTL level and I have pinouts for this. All units are designed for panel mounting, but you could easily mount them in a small metal or plastic case for bench use. I want to keep some of these, but if you're interested, contact me and we'll see what we can work out. I'm in 'down under' by the way. BTW, not sure if anybody has seen the waaaay old Siemens PTR's that didn't use light. Instead they used small wire brushes and contacts underneath - ah the old days! ;o) Grant

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IBM Aptiva Parts

by muzikman30＠yahoo.com

Hi Bob, Do you still have the Power supply from the Aptiva 2168?? How much would you charge? How would you ship? Is it in good condition? power supply, FRU 06H2973, P/N 06H2971 has 3.3V, and an extra connector, keyed 3 pin with a latch, 22GA black, white, & red Dave Dickinson --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

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What is the Q/UniBus board set?

by aek＠spies.com

> What is this? It appears to be a microcoded interface to a MIL1553 bus

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Decmate III

by trestivo＠concentric.net

Joe, yes, I'm the seller. You are welcome to come browse the warehouse anytime(as long as I'm in town!). We're in Melbourne Fl. Send me an email for directions. We have thousands of boards, systems, power supplies, keyboards, monitors, printers, cables and more. You can see a partial list at www.tarinc.com (click on the DEC PARTS link) thom email me at trestivo(a)tarinc.com

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IBM Power supply

by stargazerjim＠yahoo.com

Hi; I found your post thru a Google search for an IBM 06H2973 Power Supply. I know it was a while ago, but I'd be interested in ti if you still have it. Glad to pay postage plus something. Let me know if your interested. Thanks! Jim Leonard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

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Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm thinking more towards commodity laptops because they are much > more common. The LX palmtops certainly qualify for an out-of-the-box > device that's easy to add a terminal emulator to. The 95LX/100LX/200LX have the terminal emulator in the ROM; in fact the 95LX's usefulness as a portable terminal is why I got interested in the HP MS-DOS palmtops way back when. But it's been long enough since I used a 95LX that I don't remember what its is like, other than the less-than-24x80 screen. The 100LX/200LX have a usable VT100 emulation, and have a serial port that can do hardware flow control which is a plus. The 1000CX is a 100LX/200LX that just boots to MS-DOS without the applications that are built-in to the 100LX/200LX; you'd need to add an MS-DOS terminal emulator program to that, but then it would sit in the internal RAMdisk until you let the batteries go flat. Maybe you would put it on a PCMCIA flash card. If you want to go the commodity laptop route, I wonder if the easiest solution wouldn't be a flash device with an IDE connector. Just install it as the "disk drive" and put FreeDOS and your favorite MS-DOS terminal emulator. These things do turn up on eBay fairly regularly. -Frank McConnell

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HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

Sorry if this screws up someone's snipe plans... but it was offered a couple of weeks ago and closed with no bids. It currently (10:50 am EST) has no bids with 11 hours to go. I can't imagine that nobody one the list would want this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1789314629

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IUP-200/201

by gijs.meirmans＠financial-plaza.nl

I am looking for an old Intel unit, the IUP 200/201 universal prom programmer, with software, and information how to use. I have the IUP-F87/51 module and userguide, and a folder of the IUP-200/201 but not the programmer it self. Gijs Meirmans The Netherlands

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> By the late '80's it covered most of Western Europe and the States > including non-academic sites. CIX (Compulink Information > Exchange) was > founded in 1987, and Demon Internet in June 1992, both offering public > services in the UK. Demon charged UKP10/month for dialup access. In The Netherlands, Internet (not UUCP, but IP-based service) was simply not affordable until the mid-to-late nineties. Demon, too, started off as an UUCP provider- I worked with Cliff :) A lot of politics were involved too, at least in The Netherlands. Even right now, if you not an organization or a company, you *cannot* get a domain in the .nl space, and several other totally BS rules. (I got my Trailblazer UUCP link straight into the U.S. in 1988, because we were denied a connection by NLnet (aka UUNET aka WorldCom.) For regular people, I doubt one could get a decent and affordable conn in 1992 in the UK, Pete. Thats why Cliff started doing UUCP first :) --fred

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Cosmac Elf Lot on Ebay

by truthanl＠oclc.org

I saw this,and am in no way associated with the seller. I thought others might want to peruse: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=basements ale&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25 Cleveland OH Sincerely Larry T

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OT: _spam_

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/30/02 9:01:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl writes: > I have been checking some dates, and I'm quite sure that someone on > this list isn't for real, but a spam-address-collector instead. If I > post something on this list, I get spam pretty soon thereafter. And > yes, I varied my sender address (a little), and it takes over that > spelling. > > I don't think this is true for me. I use a separate email address for this list, that only is used for this list, and it gets almost no spam at all. I see no differences when I reply to the list. I get no increase of spam that I can detect. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Selling it off. What would you keep ?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

James wrote: > I think my wife says prayers of thanks each day, that I don't > like or collect big iron or mini's. Owww... if you change your mind, I still have a Masscomp 5700 for you... wife can use it for laundry dryer, too ! Seriously.. anyone interested in a Masscomp 5700? Cheers, Fred (trying to make room.. VAXen are trying to assimilate me..)

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MicroVAX II

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Which connector are you referring to? The KA630 and KA65x both use the >same console bulkhead, and in turn use the same two cables that connect >it. The KA630 and KA65x do of course use different memory boards, but the >ribbon cable that connects them is the same. Those are the only 3 >connectors that I can think of offhand, except for the Q/CD bus >connectors... The over-the-top connector in question is the one used to connect the memory cards to the CPU; sometimes also called the PMI connector. The KA630 one and the KA650 one(s) are different. The KA630 one does have some issue in a KA650 system, but I don't know exactly what the problem is. IIRC the KA630 one has three connectors (two mem boards max) so a four connector one (three memory boards) would be a KA65x one. (I don't have part numbers and a quick google didn't help). This may, of course, have nothing to do with your actual problem. >Well, *none* of the memory boards are faulty :) OK - if you know they work, that's different. >For some reason, they seem to not be getting clean power, so they are not >working properly. I won't know for sure until I get my scope probes, but I >expect to see lots of noise on the power supply output that happens to >power most of the chips on those boards. Antonio

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ASR33 - now working

by david_comley＠yahoo.com

Thanks to Tony and Dwight for their advice on repairing my ailing teletype model 33 ASR. It is now functioning correctly. The problem turned out to be the trip lever which had come unseated from its guide, plus a mal-adjusted distributor. The distributor clutch was permanently engaged, not synchronized with the keyboard. Characters printed OK when holding REPT because the keyboard reset concided with the start of the distributor cycle, bringing them both into sync while REPT was held down. I should have realized this before as I watched that distributor whiz round and round... D'oh. Anyway now it runs a lot quieter too and the carriage responds crisply to keystrokes after all that cleaning. Dave __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 5 months

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Found another Mac mouse

by cb＠mythtech.net

>This is a all beige mouse with a long 9 pin connector. On the connector is >the number KPT-0044J-03 and on the mouse is model A2M4015. Going off the model number, it would seem to be an Apple part. If it is all the same color beige (button isn't a slightly darker color), then I would think it is the original Apple II mouse (which would fit with the model number designator A2M for Apple 2 Mouse). I believe these were used with the Apple IIe (pre IIe Platinum). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Cybiko (was Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal?)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 29, 12:33, Brian Chase wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Peter Turnbull wrote: > > After some of the posts here, I'm seriously thinking of getting one. Can > > anyone tell me what the screen resolution is (chars x lines) if I use it as > > a terminal? > > I found a site that offers a VT100 emulator for it. > > The original model (which is now selling for 25$US on Amazon.com), has > the following specs: > > 32bit, 11MHz Hitachi H8S/2246; a 4MHz Amtel AT90S2313; 512KB of RAM, LCD > display of 160x100 pixels, I found that, and also saw in the terminal emulator blurb that there's a choice of fonts including 3x5, 4x6 and 5x7, so it should be able to make a reasonable display, say 40 chars by 16 lines. The software is hardly a VT100 emulation though; it only does clear screen and cursor movements, and none of the other VT100 ops. So far :-) > an RF2915 transceiver, RS232 serial port. The > RF communication specs are that it operates in the frequency of > 902-928MHz. It supports 30 digital channels, with rates of 19200 > bps/channel. The range is 150ft indoors, and 300ft outdoors. It says "up to 150ft". In some places I've been, I bet it would be pushed to manage 150" :-) > And it > mentions a "max on-line Cybiko computers" of 3000 (100 units on each of > 30 channels). My impression that each unit can communicate > simultaneouly with that number of other units. > > This information was found near the end (pg 46 or 47) of their online > guide: http://www.cybiko.com/guide/guide.pdf > > The newer Xtreme (gah!) model has more RAM, a faster main processor, and > a USB port (I don't see an RS232 port mentioned.) > http://www.cybikoxtreme.com/support/specs.asp USB isn't useful to me. None of my SGIs, Suns or older machines support it. BTW, the RRP in the UK is ?29.99 according to Cybiko's online shop. I've seen it for ?26.99 at Jungle, it may be cheaper elsewhere. That includes batteries, charger, RS232 cable, etc, so it's worth buying "on spec" at that price. And the Linux SDK is free, like the Windows one, except it's (the Linux SDK) currently one revision ahead, interestingly. Anyway, I found the terminal emulator. More importantly, I found Asteroids and Colossal Cave ;-) Now I just need Wumpus ;-) http://www.devrs.com/cybiko/download.php -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Cybiko (was Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal?)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 29, 17:00, Philip Pemberton wrote: > Just out of interest, how many people here over the age of - shall we say > twelve - have got a Cybiko? From the photos I've seen it would make a nice > portable terminal, but it looks a bit "kiddy". Nothing a can of Humbrol > spray-on matt enamel paint and matching varnish wouldn't cure, though. After some of the posts here, I'm seriously thinking of getting one. Can anyone tell me what the screen resolution is (chars x lines) if I use it as a terminal? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 5 months

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Shameless eBay Self-Promotion

by jss＠subatomix.com

I'm still unemployed (but hopeful), and last week I spent about $200 on classiccmp gear that I couldn't really afford. I've got to recoup the cost of this or bills don't get paid this month. So I did some housecleaning and put a bunch of items up on eBay. There is some DEC stuff, an HP workstation, and a grab bag of other miscellaneous items: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=xor-ax-ax In a few days, I'll add more to that list: 2 HP-85s, a couple more DEC boards, and maybe some more cables. -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 5 months

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OpenVMS media available for d/l?

by Adrien.Farkas＠Sun.COM

Hello folks, I've registered at cpq user group, got OpenVMS license, but I do not really want to order OpenVMS media for $30 (or whatever). Would anyone be so kind to supply me with a link where to get these iso images? Thanks in advance, -- freddy

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8 bit vs other Computers.

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk > >> So what? People still did useful work on those machines. I wrote a >> database program to store my comic book collection on a computer with 2K >> of effective memory and a rubber "chiclet" keyboard using cassette tape >> for storage. Are you saying this was't real? > >One of my related interests is programmable calculators (which are really >computers IMHO -- or at least I've love to see a sane definition which >excludes them). I've been using an HP65 (100 program steps, 10 registers >(variables)), an HP67 (224 progam steps, 26 variables), and so on. And >from the published software I have for these machines, I'll bet that >'real work' was done using them. > >-tony > > Oh no! Tony has brought 4 bit computers into the world of being useful. We are just lucky that one can't make a useful 0 bit computer. Dwight

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Decmate III

by trestivo＠concentric.net

Anyone interested in a working Decmate III check out this ebay link... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2075159467 thom

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Old Computers

by gfrajkor＠ccs.carleton.ca

I recently posted to this list my desire to give a good home to big bunch of old computers, including some DEC PDPs and some CP/M lunks, and Atari and Commodore pioneers. The response was amazing. I never realized there were so many people still interested in preserving and using these classics. In less than a week, I had contact information and offers and requests for information >from many parts of the continent. As it turned out, conveniently, they all found homes right here in the Ottawa area. Thank you all for your generosity with contact information and suggestions. I believe the old computers thank you also. -- ------ Jan George Frajkor _!_ 221 Arlington Ave. --!-- Ottawa, Ontario | Canada K1R 5S8 /^\ aa003(a)freenet.carleton.ca /^\ /^\ gfrajkor(a)ccs.carleton.ca h: 613 563-4534 fax: 613 520-6690

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decmate III available

by trestivo＠concentric.net

Anyone interest in a working Decmate III check out this link... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2075159467 thom

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Computer Timeline

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Not quite clever enough -- the last free version is still available on the >Wayback Machine. Start here: > >http://web.archive.org/web/20010802114248/www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/comph… Well the entries from 2001 onwards ask for money for the 1977-2001 period. The last entry that lists anything at all for 1977+ only goes as far as 1980. If there a URL that lists more of that period in the wayback machine, I've somehow managed to miss it. Antonio

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ebay deals do happen

by mats＠sagabelectronic.se

Hi Erik, Do you still have the C8080-8 CPU? If you are interrested in selling it or trade it for a C8080A + money please let me know. I have several C8080A's but no C8080-8. Best regards Mats Bystr?m (CPU collector) riviera(a)telia.com

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Dec Rainbow

by trestivo＠concentric.net

Mike, If you need a working vr201 for your rainbow let me know. I have quite a few of them and will sell you one for $25. Add $5 if you also need the cable. (you pay shipping from florida or pick it up). I have working Decmate III's as well and I think I may have the hard drives that go in the rainbow along with the dual floppy unit. I also have some original rainbow software. You can email me at trestivo(a)tarinc.com. Regards, thom

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Superb Exidy System on Ebay in Holland

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 25, 21:28, Curt Vendel wrote: > Anybody who is into this system should check it this auction I found on > Ebay: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2074514971 > > The guy also has some nice Commodore stuff, a Sony (MSX?) System and some > other cool stuff too. The coolest item there, for me, is his Jupiter Ace. For those who don't know, it's a FORTH machine, and fairly rare. It's based on a Sinclair ZX81, and named after the Pilot ACE computer built in 1950 at the National Physical Laboratory. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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computer timeline

by daveb＠computerhistory.org

Hans wrote: > OK, ok, ok already. This link is to a raw text file taken from my web > site when it was active. There are quite a few versions of this on the > web and none of them cite the origin !! I hadn't realized that you were the source of the list. The person with the link I cited was wrong in not crediting you. > I have taken the time to put up most of my original site at > www.aconit.org/hbp/CCC Thank you, thank you, thank you. For creating the list in the first place and sharing it freely with the rest of us. > None of the CGI scripts work (yet) so you cannot search but the > formatted lists are working. Some of the links may also not work yet. > > I will try and put up the CGI scripts soon and do some updates also. > > Let me know if you use the list, feedback always helps motivate updates ;-) I use the list and find it very helpful. As I can, I'll be sending a few updates and corrections for the machines I'm familiar with. Thanks, DaveB Volunteer, Computer History Museum

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Keyboard key labels

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

Ever notice that on modern keyboards, the letters on the keys are not in the middle of the key? They are off to the left. This is something that has always kind of annoyed me. I like the way the older keyboards were made, like on the VT100 terminal. Not only did they have real switches and a great feel, but the letters were right there in the middle of the key, where they should be. Not only that, but the labels on these old keyboards actually went all the way through the key - it was made of two different colors of plastic. This way, the letters wouldn't wear off. It's obvious why they changed the key switches - to make the keyboard cheaper. That and some people are weird and don't like the wonderful sounds that the older keyboards made. (I hate quiet keyboards...) But why were the letters moved? Was this cheaper or easier? Or did Apple suddenly do it and then everyone else followed suit? <grin> Does anyone know what computer started using this style of keycap labeling? Just curious. Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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Old Tech - Sort of

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

Well, my Pentium II motherboard bit the dust the other day (Thank You American Electric Power!), so I went to the local computer parts store in search of a new one. Being somewhat of a vacuum tube fan, I settled on the AOpen AX4B-533TUBE board. Yes, this one has a vacuum tube. It uses a dual triode (Sovtek 6922) as the audio amplifier. The board also sports a 1.5Ghz Pentium 4 and DDR SDRAM, along with the usual bells and whistles such as LAN, Serial, Parallel, etc. The audio out of the board sounds great, as long as you make sure you have the right impedance speakers/headphones plugged in. My normal 8 ohm headphones were badly overdriven, but plugging the computer into my guitar amp (sounds weird, don't it?) delivered that nice, wide vacuum tube tonality that normal sound cards just can't deliver. I really gotta hand it to the guys at AOpen for delivering a wonderful mix of new and old tech. I do, however, really need to install a window in my case so I can bask in the warm glow of the vacuum tube. -- Christopher L McNabb Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.1356N 80.4272N GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD

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Poquet PC

by lgwalker＠mts.net

Nice. Virtually identical to the Sharp PC 3100, but the Sharp had proprietory 10pin RS232, 20pin Parallel, and fdd sockets. It ran an 80C88 at 10mhz as opposed to the Poquets' 16mhz. Only type 1 PCcard slots as opposed to the Poquets' type I/II. Uses 4 x1.5v cells. Based on the specs I think the Poquet wins out. But a later machine. These guys have the PC 3000. About the same price. http://www.notebooksplus.com/pc3000.htm This guy has done some amazing things with the 2MB PC3100. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Strand/3387/pc3story.html Lawrence > Back in the mid-90's I kept a Poqet PC in my bag or desk to use as an > ad hoc console terminal for data center gear. Wasn't as convenient as > the then current HP palmtops, but a heck of a lot cheaper and an > easier keyboard if the HPs were a tad small for you. MS-DOS in ROM > supported Kermit nicely for ANSI terminal emulation. > > California Digital (not the newbies that bought VA Linux' hardware > operation) still has them, though perhaps a bit (ahem) overpriced: > > http://www.cadigital.com/poqetpc.htm > > --S. > lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

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computer timeline

by daveb＠computerhistory.org

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Marvin Johnston wrote: > Thanks, turning on Javascript did it! But it is still not what I am > looking for. I've seen lists in the past that have only the computer and > the (sometimes approximate) date they were introduced. So far, I've > still been unable to find such a list. Here's the link you may be remembering: http://members.fortunecity.com/pcmuseum/complist.html I like this one because it gives references to where much of the information came from. Thanks, DaveB Volunteer, Computer History Museum

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Optical paper tape readers

by mhscc＠canada.com

I've got a few PPT readers (SCM & Burroughs, parallel I/F) if anybody wants to play around with one; also some punches and parts. Contact me off-list if interested. mike --------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com

23 years, 5 months

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Poqet PC

by classiccmp＠crash.com

I've muddied the waters a bit... The link I included was for the later Fujitsu Poqet PC Plus. Fujitsi bought out the original company before or while the second generation product was being offered. CA Digital is giving specs for the Plus model, which is what I believe they're selling. Gee, I wonder if this is covered on one of the timelines people have been discussing... The original Poqet PC has _no_ backlight, uses 2 std AA cells, and MS-DOS 3.3 in ROM. Not sure how much memory is in there, ISTR at least 512K and maybe more. There's a small ramdisk on D: for AUTOEXEC/CONFIG.SYS, and the DOS ROM is C:. The two PCMCIA slots at A:/B: are nice, especially with the 2MB SRAM cards - however I appear to have forgotten to refresh the lithium backup batteries in mine :^} Fred's right, the original Poqet brings pretty much the whole XT bus out to a connector on the back. I like the idea of hooking this up to a backplane... B^P Somewhere I have the docs from when I bought the thing, but it may be years before they surface again. --S.

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New Find Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

While at the Goodwill I picked up a black case and inside was a Bridge Challenger III with power supply and manual. It's missing thirteen dealer cards. These cards are read my a built in scanner. This unit was built by Fidelity Electronics LTD.

23 years, 5 months

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OS disks for HP150A

by Kim＠entrix.co.uk

Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me. I have an early 1980s Hewlett Packard HP150A which I am trying to find a home for in a museum. The system is working but I can't find the MSDOS (or application) disks for it which were on 3.5" floppy. Does anyone know a source of such things? I think I may have a museum interested but I would rather donate it as a fully working system. Thanks in anticipation Kim Harris * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is intended for the addressed recipient only. If it has reached you in error, please return to postmaster(a)entrix.co.uk. Messages are sent by individuals and do not necessarily state the policy or opinion of Entrix Computing Ltd. Email is scanned for viruses and content by MailMarshal and Norman Virus Control.

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Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

No, it is a Hornet chip, but it has an 80C186 in it. Running MSD.exe will show this information. See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/200lx/block.pdf for a block diagram of the chip, with the 80C186 clearly indicated. There are also a lot of references to the '186 in programming information for the LX's. -----Original Message----- From: Philip Pemberton [mailto:philpem@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:02 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal? <snip> I though the 200LX used an 8086, more specifically an Intel HORNET embedded CPU? <snip>

23 years, 5 months

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HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

The winning (only) bidder was vcf! so I guess that means it went to a good home and now I won't regret bidding on it. > >>From: "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net> > >>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >>To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > >>Subject: HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay > >>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:53:02 -0500 > >> > >>Sorry if this screws up someone's snipe plans... but it was > >>offered a couple of weeks ago and closed with no bids. It > >>currently (10:50 am EST) has no bids with 11 hours to go. I > >>can't imagine that nobody one the list would want this: > >> > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1789314629 _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

23 years, 5 months

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Optical paper tape readers

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

I have a optical paper tape reader called a "TPR-1" connected to my Altair. We bought it as a kit. It has a pretty blue box that matches the computer. It uses a standardized part that has phototransistors spaced correctly to read paper tape. The sprocket hole also has a phototransistor that is used as the clock. This is how we always loaded Altair Basic. I saw the manual a few days ago. I'll see if I can scan it. -Rob -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Andy Holt Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:34 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Optical paper tape readers Another problem with building a paper tape reader is to ensure that the light source is constant - in particular that it does not vary with mains frequency! (Memories of getting a PTR modified to work on my homebrew 6800 system 25 years ago) Andy

23 years, 5 months

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Found another Mac mouse

by cb＠mythtech.net

>The leading A2 certainly means it's an Apple product relating to the >Apple II family, but the M doesn't make it a mouse. Lots of things >were A2Mxxxx, and only a tiny number were mice. Sorry, brain fart on my part. You are of course correct. A good number of items have M in the model number that are not mice (for instance, the entire(?) Mac line). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 5 months

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MicroVAX II

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Tony, > I do wonder just hwat is taught in universities these days :-(. Aside from how to surf the net? Visual Basic and Java are hot topix nowadays. :) > Pity. IMHO, one of the main reason that soft-microcoded CPUs are > interesting is that you can modify yhr micorocode yourself. Dude.. I have a hard time explaining to friends what microcode *is*. They do not get the idea of single-stepping a CPU through its microcode.. --f

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #295 - 28 msgs

by gil＠vauxelectronics.com

Hi Godfrey: You may be interested in the greenkeys teletype email list -- lots of good folks with questions, answers, etc. Mostly 5-level baudot machines, but some ascii stuff too. It averages a few emails a day (not overwhelming). You need to go to http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys to sign up. You can poke through the archives at: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/ gil >From: "Godfrey Manning" <cgmm(a)thersgb.net> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:00 PM >Subject: Flexowriter > > >> Does anybody in the UK (apart from me) possess a Mk. 1 Friden Flexowriter? >> Can I be of any help (info/spares) to such a person? >> Godfrey. ;----------------------------------------------------------- ; vaux electronics, inc. 480-354-5556 ; http://www.vauxelectronics.com (fax: 480-354-5558) ;-----------------------------------------------------------

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HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Speaking of HP 1000 diags, I recently acquired a set of HP 1000 diags on six DC100A tapes, along with a few inches of docs in a couple of binders. I would list the part numbers on the tapes but I don't have them in front of me right now. Each tape contains the configurator file and then several module level diagnostic files. Unfortunately the tapes are 20+ years old and the oxide layer has lifted off in a few spots and I haven't been able to read them successfully. Does anyone the full set of HP 1000 diagnostic files that they would be willing to share? I do have one diag file on paper tape. That was why I was interested in acquiring a reader. >From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay >Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:49:13 -0600 > >The 2748B paper tape reader is a very nice unit. I'm not bidding, I have >two >already. The connector on the reader is "v.35-ish", but not v.35. The other >end of the cable is "proprietary" and goes to the HP 8-bit duplex register >board. If someone has an HP box, they should definitely get this for >loading >diags. > >Jay West >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:53 AM >Subject: HP 2784B Paper Tape Reader on ebay > > > > Sorry if this screws up someone's snipe plans... but it was > > offered a couple of weeks ago and closed with no bids. It > > currently (10:50 am EST) has no bids with 11 hours to go. I > > can't imagine that nobody one the list would want this: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1789314629 > > > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Optical paper tape readers

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 26, 11:02, Glen Slick wrote: > I was hoping there might be some sort of preassembled optical sensor array > available with the right spacing for paper tape holes, but maybe that is > hoping for too much. If you build one with discrete sensors, is it easy to > find ones that are narrow enough to stack side to side with the correct > spacing? One way would be to get some Perspex (Lexan/Plexiglass) rod and make some short light pipes, and fan them out to get the spread you need. Or make some kind of 9-partition screen out of thin sheet metal, narrow at the top and wider at the bottom where the detectors are. The detectors don't have to be right up against the tape, so long as you don't get light from one bit affecting the detector for adjacent ones. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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What is it

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

I seem to remember similar third party processor upgrades for IBM XTs, so I would guess it was something like that. David

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Found another Mac mouse

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

This is a all beige mouse with a long 9 pin connector. On the connector is the number KPT-0044J-03 and on the mouse is model A2M4015.

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Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal?

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Back in the mid-90's I kept a Poqet PC in my bag or desk to use as an ad hoc console terminal for data center gear. Wasn't as convenient as the then current HP palmtops, but a heck of a lot cheaper and an easier keyboard if the HPs were a tad small for you. MS-DOS in ROM supported Kermit nicely for ANSI terminal emulation. California Digital (not the newbies that bought VA Linux' hardware operation) still has them, though perhaps a bit (ahem) overpriced: http://www.cadigital.com/poqetpc.htm --S.

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Optical paper tape readers

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I have an old Intel tape reader ( I think it was made by REMEX ). It was a parallel output. I took me about 20 minutes to make an adapter to plug into the bi-directional printer port on my laptop( it took me longer to buy the cable since I went to Fry's to buy it). I took me another hour or so to look up the info on the parallel port to write a simple reader to take input from the printer port to a file. I started without schematics or docs on the reader, just knowing that it was parallel. One should be able to find the output strobe and data lines with a logic probe ( although I used an oscilloscope ). Dwight >From: "Loboyko Steve" <sloboyko(a)yahoo.com> >They once made these but I haven't seen any surplus in >years. > >Until I picked up some paper tape readers on eBay >(cheap - no one wants readers, they want punches) - I >was considering making one out of tiny >phototransistors/IR emitters using wooden strips >masked with Mylar tape punched with the RUBOUT >character. I definitely think this is doable. But >seriously, I'd look at eBay, because readers with >nonstandard interface go for cheap. I recently missed >a complete Remex reader (with reels, etc) for $20 >(nobody bid on it), and I DO know how to interface >these. > > > >--- "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> wrote: >> Hi Glen >> There isn't much application for things with this >> spacing. >> Remember, you will most likely be connecting this to >> a >> uP. You really don't need to space then in a >> straight >> line. You can stager them and reassemble the entire >> byte width afterwards. >> Another though would be to use one of the linear >> arrays, >> used in scanners. Most of these are about as wide as >> a paper tape. You could use a collimated source and >> drag the tape directly over the array. You'd need >> to do a little image processing but it shouldn't be >> too >> difficult. >> There are some mechanical options that might work >> as well. >> Like I said, use some imagination. >> Dwight >> >> >> >From: "Glen Slick" <glenslick(a)hotmail.com> >> > >> >I was hoping there might be some sort of >> preassembled optical sensor array >> >available with the right spacing for paper tape >> holes, but maybe that is >> >hoping for too much. If you build one with >> discrete sensors, is it easy to >> >find ones that are narrow enough to stack side to >> side with the correct >> >spacing? >> > >> > >> >>Hi >> >> Ahh, such concepts as make one come to mind. >> You could >> >>scrap a number of mice for the optical sensors ( >> two for >> >>each axis, 4 total per mouse ) or you could buy >> photo >> >>transistors from Jameco. In a pinch, the clear >> lensed >> >>LED's make reasonable detectors. >> >> Use a little imagination. >> >>Dwight >> > >> > >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >> >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 >> months FREE*. >> >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >> > >> > >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com >

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