- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by brain＠jbrain.com

I know some of you all loathe eBay, so ignore if appropriate. For the rest, I've decided life is going too fast as it is, and this 3B2 is not getting high enough priority to stay here. So, to someone else it will go. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8805689078 Feel free to ask questions if needed. Jim

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Semiconductor Books

by kbao＠thaler.com

Hi, Jeff, I am looking for the Harris Semiconductor Analog databook. Do you still have the books you posted on the internet a couple of years ago? If you do, please reply this email. Thank you. Best Regards, K.B.

20 years, 4 months

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Another freebie...

by geneb＠simpits.com

A manual from Microdata Training and Product Support titled: Reality 8000 PEP Series Introductory Manual. It's in fair shape, 48 pages and punched for a 3 ring binder. E-Mail me off list if you'd like this. g.

20 years, 4 months

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Freebie

by geneb＠simpits.com

I've got a 3Com Etherlink III manual if anyone wants it. Covers: 3C509, 3C509-TP, 3C509-COMBO, 3C579 and 3C579-TP E-mail me off list if you're interested. g.

20 years, 4 months

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atari printers

by dsl289031＠vip.cybercity.dk

Looking for a small plotter I was directed to one of your sites. Do you know anywhere I could get hold of a Tandy CGP-115 new or used? Regards Arne Graff

20 years, 4 months

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360k disk and 1.44 drives not happy

by RMeenaks＠olf.com

I downloaded the docs a while back from a website (might actually be epson's). I'll see if I can find it... Ram

20 years, 4 months

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360k disk and 1.44 drives not happy

by RMeenaks＠olf.com

Nope. I paid about $10 for it and I am really happy with it. My computer can only support one floppy drive and it still works like a champ! I don't think I can read both floppy drives at the same time though, but who cares. I can now read all those old disks I have and on a modern PC nonetheless. Ram

20 years, 4 months

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Ping: Steve Phipps

by mmaginnis＠gmail.com

Steve, My messages to your cableone.net address are bouncing: Technical details of permanent failure: PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 relaying blocked, read new mail, add 64.233.166.182 to forwarding or enable smtp authentication in... - Mike

20 years, 4 months

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Software archiving news from the Computer History Museum

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Will you be posting the progress to a blog? :) It really does seem like there needs to be something. CHM is pretty opaque from the outside (having been a volunteer for over five years). I really like like Paul McJones' "Dusty Decks" site and may use that as a model. http://www.mcjones.org/dustydecks/

20 years, 4 months

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collection management system for web?

by legalize＠xmission.com

So what does everyone use to manage an exhibit of their collection as a web browsable thing? So far I've been hand-editing HTML, but its getting a little laborious and I'm wondering what sort of open source PHP/MySQL content management system out there might be apropos for such a thing. I'm using drupal <http://www.drupal.org> for a web site I'm doing and that seems to fit well with the collaborative nature of the site, but I'm not so sure it would be best for managing a collection site. What do you use? -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

20 years, 4 months

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Software archiving news from the Computer History Museum

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> So, when are you going to catalog and make TAP files of the > collection of PDP10 tapes at CHM? It's on the "to do" list for the coming year. My goals for the first year include reading The LGC collection and CHM's DECtapes.

20 years, 4 months

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uScope 820

by henk.gooijen＠oce.com

Yup, I am not staring at $500 or $700 (way too much), and I am not counting to make big bucks here. I will have a good look at it this evening, scan the doc (if I have it) tomorrow and then put it up on eBay for, say $25 ...! - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of dwight elvey > Sent: dinsdag 2 mei 2006 16:24 > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: uScope 820 > > Hi > The 499 one is on its second round, after not being sold for 499. > It is not likely that the 700 one will get much either. It > seems like I saw one of these get around 300 or so. Remember, > these are just asking prices. > These were designed to work with the 8080 but as I recall, > they were also used with a few others, like the 8085. When I > worked at Intel, I'd gotten a centronics printer wired for > 220 50 cycle. I used the transformer from one of these to use > to step down. I handled the 50 cycle with a gear change on > the AC motor. > Dwight > > > >From: "Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> > > >Wow, $500 and $700 for that thing? I have one at home with the > >documentation, and I am sure never going to use it. > >Guess putting it on eBay will make some money to finance the > >PDP-11 stuff which is far more interesting than Intel *&@#~$% I will > >check bitsavers if the doc is available, else I will scan that first. > > > >- Henk. > > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Don Y <dgy at dakotacom.net> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Can anyone verify that this box (1976 vintage) also handles > > > 8080's? > > > > I'm *sure* I had an 8080 "personality module" for mine > but I can't > > > > seem to find it (nor the overlay or the pod). > > > > > > > > > > FWIW, these two uScope items are both pictured with 8080A probes. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8802128045 > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5227203002 > > > This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.

20 years, 4 months

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I'm responding to your request for a ADDS console 580

by gmatthew＠gmail.com

I'm responding to your request for a ADDS console 580. There is one in the trash across the street and it doesn't look like it's in very good shape but I thought that I'd give you a buzz. Let me know if you want me to pull it out of the trash! There are a bunch of 5440 magnetic data storage 12 or 14" containers too. Matt Request for information on display terminals (third party request) *John Lawson* jpl15 at panix.com <cctalk%40classiccmp.org?Subject=Request%20for%20information%20on%20display%20terminals%20%28third%20party%0A%09request%29&In-Reply-To=000901c442bd%24667348e0%246402a8c0%40home> *Tue May 25 20:11:09 CDT 2004* - Previous message: Request for information on display terminals (third party request) <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/042167.html> - Next message: Request for information on display terminals (third party request) <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/042174.html> - *Messages sorted by:* [ date ]<http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/date.html#42168> [ thread ]<http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/thread.html#42168> [ subject ]<http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/subject.html#42168> [ author ]<http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-May/author.html#42168> ------------------------------ >**>* The first one is the ADDS Console 580 (ADDS stands for Applied Digital Data* ^^^^^^^ I b'lieve that's actually "Consul" - as in consular.... See a nit - pick a nit - ;} Cheers John PS: I had one: big, heavy beast - I think Hans glommed on to it...? don't remember...

20 years, 4 months

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360k disk and 1.44 drives not happy

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Ram, I have a couple of those too and they do work great. However I got mine surplus and haven't taken the time to figure out the jumpers setting. Do you know what they are? Joe At 11:15 AM 5/2/06 -0400, you wrote: >Not really going to help you, but I had several problems with floppy >drives on my P4 machine and I finally decided to get one of those dual >3-1/2 and 5-1/4 inch drives on ebay (I believe it was from Epson). >Solved all my problems...Now I can read all different types of PC >formats on a modern peecee... > >Ram >

20 years, 4 months

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uScope 820

by henk.gooijen＠oce.com

Wow, $500 and $700 for that thing? I have one at home with the documentation, and I am sure never going to use it. Guess putting it on eBay will make some money to finance the PDP-11 stuff which is far more interesting than Intel *&@#~$% I will check bitsavers if the doc is available, else I will scan that first. - Henk. > On 5/1/06, Don Y <dgy at dakotacom.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can anyone verify that this box (1976 vintage) also handles > 8080's? > > I'm *sure* I had an 8080 "personality module" for mine but I can't > > seem to find it (nor the overlay or the pod). > > > > FWIW, these two uScope items are both pictured with 8080A probes. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8802128045 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5227203002 > This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.

20 years, 4 months

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uScope 820

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 08:21 AM 5/2/06 +0200, Henk wrote: >Wow, $500 and $700 for that thing? I have one at home with >the documentation, and I am sure never going to use it. >Guess putting it on eBay will make some money to finance the >PDP-11 stuff which is far more interesting than Intel *&@#~$% >I will check bitsavers if the doc is available, else I will >scan that first. I wish you'd scan the docs. I have both a Z-80 and an 8080 unit that I'd love to try out (and then sell on E-bay for $700+ :-) Joe

20 years, 4 months

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19" Rack History

by Billy.Pettit＠wdc.com

When I was in the Army (Signal Corps), they told us the 19" standard was >from Germany, during WWI. It was actually .5 meters and used on all their early military electronics. But I have no data whatsoever to back this up. It was just one or two instructors and probably pure bull shit. Billy

20 years, 4 months

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Prime computer

by williams.dan＠gmail.com

I won the prime computer, I paid more then I really wanted, but there you go. I was expecting it to go out of my reach though. I will pick it up sometime this week. Watch this space for info... Dan

20 years, 4 months

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19" Rack History

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Hi I worked on British (Strowger Type) automatic telephone exchanges in the 1960's. The guy I worked for (then 60+) told me they first made racks 19" to hold a given number of standard relays in a row. (Circa 1920) Rod -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis Sent: 01 May 2006 16:49 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: 19" Rack History IIRC, 19" racks go back before WWII. I'll have to check one or two of my old electronics books, but my guess is that the size originiated in the 1920's. Cheers, Chuck

20 years, 4 months

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MS-DOS 1.0/1.1

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

> From: Marvin Johnston > Subject: MS-DOS 1.0/1.1 > > I was just reading through the MSJ (May 1987) and it has an interesting > article > called "Evolution and History of MS-DOS" and some of it is quoted below. > Does > anyone know whatever happened to Tim Patterson? I never hear his name > mentioned, > and am just curious. Tim has a web site with more information on MS-DOS http://www.patersontech.com/ Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholey

20 years, 4 months

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LA50 alignment problems

by fireflyst＠earthlink.net

Okay, I'm hoping someone who knows a little more about dot matrix printers than I can shed some light on this issue: I have a LA50 printer that has a problem where when it prints, it shifts the text about half a character too far to the right on the left-to-right pass, and the same on the right-to-left pass. I tried adjusting the "align" trimmer, but that didn't help. Has anyone else seen this problem on an LA50, and is there a workable solution to the problem? Thanks Julian

20 years, 4 months

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uScope 820

by dgy＠DakotaCom.Net

Hi, Can anyone verify that this box (1976 vintage) also handles 8080's? I'm *sure* I had an 8080 "personality module" for mine but I can't seem to find it (nor the overlay or the pod). (sigh) I've got to get this mess sorted out so finding things is easier! --don

20 years, 4 months

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Lets play name that game; Who has a better memory than me?

by jplist＠kiwigeek.com

Answer: Darned near everyone. I'm trying to locate a game I used to play on my cousin's computer back in the early 90s. The game is most likely older than this, but I can't say how much. (The only other games on this machine was Test Drive (#1) and some horrendous ASCII golf game) The game was a top-down dungeon style game (As in the location, rather than D&D or Zork association). The game used ASCII characters to build out the 'map' that you walked through using the arrow guys to guide your character, if memory serves an *, running into monsters and treasure and the like. I -think- the dungeon view only took up a portion of the screen, perhaps the right-half only, and your view was fairly limited to a "if you were in the dungeon this would be the extent of your eye line" sort of thing. Pretty nifty. Does this sound famaliar to anyone? A name would be great, a link would be disco, and source code would be fascinating. Thanks all for your hive-mind; JP

20 years, 4 months

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Zemu

by bqt＠update.uu.se

"Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> wrote: >Ok, I will get to it right away, Johnny! Good. >I will see if you changed the hex numbers (back) to octal numbers :-) Oops. No. I should do that... :-) >Can somebody explain te difference between >"VBGEXE ZEMU" and "VBGEXE" and then enter on the VBGEXE >prompt the file name (ZEMU.SAV) ? >Hi Johnny, > >I can not get access to ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/ ... >anonymous is not accepting my e-mail addresses >(gooiAToceDOTnl or henkDOTgooijenAToceDOTcom) >and I do not know the guest account password ... Weird. Hmm. There is no guest account. The anonymous account should accept pretty much anything you throw at it as a password. Try again? Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

20 years, 4 months

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Heurikon HK68/V4F boards

by jdrcpeterson＠graceba.net

Anyone have or know of Heurikon VME data acquisition boards, HK68/V4F? Thanks! Darren Peterson

20 years, 4 months

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American Automation emulators?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Oh, what the hell! I sent outside and dug the rest of the stuff out of the car. Here's what I have: 6800/02/08, 65xx, 8085, Z-80 and 27xx (programmer?). Looks like a nice collection of vintage stuff! I have both pods and interface cards for each of them. In fact, this stuff looks NEW! Most of it is still wrapped in foam plastic sheeting and it's VERY clean. Joe At 05:06 PM 4/26/06 -0700, you wrote: >Joe R. wrote: > >> Is anyone familar with this stuff? I picked up a pile of it a week or >>two back. The pod that I'm looking at right now if for the 6800/02/08 but I >>think the others are for other CPUs. Anyone know what system it's for? The >>interface board uses the same type female connectors as the ss-50 stuff but >>many more pins and much larger circuit card. I found some mentions on the >>net but nothing useful. >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> >I work for arium. What do you have? We are now American Arium, and >I can at least find out what you have it you send photos or descriptions. > >I suspect maybe you either have an analyzer with some trace pods, or >if you have run control, you may have an EZ/Pro system. > >Jim >

20 years, 4 months

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19" Rack History

by technobug＠comcast.net

I think the standard probably had its origins a bit further: My 1919 Westinghouse Catalogue lists control desks that have sections of 16, 20, 24, and 32" wide. The section was covered by a panel that spanned the width of the cabinet - the equipment was intended to be mounted on this panel. From the drawings it looks like the actual space within the sections would be an inch or so less - the specifications are a bit lacking. A 3'x20" rack with side panels ran $817.50!

20 years, 4 months

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HP 9000 Pascal 3.2 : HFS on HP9133L

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

BTW I just noticed on that someone has a Pascal 3.1 manual on e-bay. Item number: 7607549442 I think I sent a copy of this to Al to be scaned but who knows, this may have something different in it. Joe

20 years, 4 months

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HP 9000 Pascal 3.2 : HFS on HP9133L

by bernd＠kopriva.de

Hi, i'm currently trying to initialize my HP9133L with the HFS file system, but executing MKHFS only runs into an integer overflow exception ... ... this is independent of the number of volumes that are used (i have to admit, i only have tried 1 .. 3 volumes). I have a Basic 6.4 at hand as well, with this one, it's possible to initialize the drive, but then, the volume isn't accessible by Pascal anymore :( Another issue : is it possible to boot from the floppy within the 9133 ? I can only boot from another 9122 that is connected, but not with the 9133 build in drive, later it's possible to use it normally Thanks Bernd

20 years, 4 months

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cctalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 1

by roosmcd＠dds.nl

Don North wrote: >I currently work for a big datacom supplier, and design a lot of rack >mount equipment. The current major datacom/telecom customers invariably >want all equipment to fit in standard 19" two or four post racks. They >really don't like the 23" width (not 24" width) at all, and really balk >at buying a chassis that requires a 23" rack. And there's also 21".... Of course one notices these things when trying to mount 19" gear in the rack :). >More interesting is the concept of 'U' when it comes to racks. All >equipment is in units of 'U' (a standard 8' rack is 44U), which is >1.75". So anyone know where 'U' came from, and why it is called 'U'? Unit? greetings, Michiel

20 years, 4 months

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Zemu

by henk.gooijen＠oce.com

Hi Johnny, I tried again to download 'zemu.tar' via the link on the webpage http://64.253.97.239/pdp11/pdp11.htm which did work fine last week. Now I get: "HTTP 500 - Internal server error Internet Explorer" and the (Windows) text is "The page cannot be displayed. There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot be displayed." - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist > Sent: maandag 1 mei 2006 10:11 > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Zemu > > "Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> wrote: > > >Ok, I will get to it right away, Johnny! > > Good. > > >I will see if you changed the hex numbers (back) to octal > numbers :-) > > Oops. No. I should do that... :-) > > >Can somebody explain te difference between >"VBGEXE ZEMU" > and "VBGEXE" and then enter on the VBGEXE >prompt the file > name (ZEMU.SAV) ? > > >Hi Johnny, > > > >I can not get access to ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/pub/pdp11/ ... > >anonymous is not accepting my e-mail addresses > >(gooiAToceDOTnl or henkDOTgooijenAToceDOTcom) >and I do not > know the guest account password ... > > Weird. Hmm. There is no guest account. The anonymous account > should accept pretty much anything you throw at it as a password. > Try again? > > Johnny > > -- > Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus > || on a psychedelic trip > email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books > pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol > > This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.

20 years, 4 months

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Tektronix 4041 System Controller Programmer's Reference online

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/docs/tektronix/070-3917-01_4041_S…> -or- <http://tinyurl.com/gou22> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

20 years, 4 months

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Looking for Kaypro 4/88 MSDOS 2.21

by staylor＠mrynet.com

I'm in need of an MSDOS 2.21 boot diskette for some Kaypro 4/88 (CO-POWER 88 co processor) machines I've restored. I have the Kaypro diskettes to fire up the coprocessor and 512k memory add-on. The Kaypro co-processor start-up seems to be tied to MSDOS version 2.21. Any MSDOS 2.21 boot diskette will do, but perhaps the Kaypro-distributed one has additional utilities... not sure. Does anyone have a raw disk image or a teledisk image of a boot diskette I could download or be emailed? It is, of course, needed in 5.25" 360k format, but I can boot it and generate what I need worst-case. Thanks in advance, -scott

20 years, 4 months

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stuff that may be available

by rtellason＠blazenet.net

A guy writes to me: "I have several, Wyse 325 and Wyse 60 terminals. ?The great majority of them work fine as many were taken straight from work stations that converted to PCs." and: "I also have Frame relay networking equipment including routers and DSU units. ?Again, mostly working units. ?I also have several componets to a large R50 AIX computer server. ?They include power supplies, hard drives, expansion cards, processor boards and many other things." He's just looking to get rid of it. I'm looking for scrap, and maybe to make a buck or three. If any of this stuff is of interest contact me offlist and we'll put something together. -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

20 years, 4 months

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Tektronix 4105 Operator's Manual online

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/docs/tektronix/070-4527-02_4105_C…> or <http://tinyurl.com/hlh9a> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

20 years, 4 months

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CoCo2

by dgy＠DakotaCom.Net

Hi, I'm (slowly) trying to wade through things here with a goal of "thinning the herd" (sigh -- unfortunately, no basements, here! :< ). I have a working CoCo2. What aspects of it should I *document* before getting rid of it? (e.g., photos, ROM images, etc.) Or, is it just not worth my time? --don

20 years, 4 months

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Advice on SCSI CD-RW

by dgy＠DakotaCom.Net

Hi, I am in the process of converting my AViiON 3000 into a "media server" (i.e. hook up all my SCSI peripherals to it so I can read and write different media in one place... instead of dragging peripherals from one machine to another). The (old, slow) CD-RW that I had installed in it appears to be dead/dying. At first, I thought it was an issue of not liking "home-recorded" CD's. But, it appears to dislike "real" CD's just as much! :-( Aside from flashing LEDs, it's hard to tell what, if anything, it is doing (fans on the AV3000 are loud). I plan to take the covers off it (the CD-RW) and verify the hub is spinning, actuator arm is moving, etc. Other than that, could be a problem in the optics (which means toss it out...) It's a Yamaha CRW4260t-NB so its no big loss (though it does have a strap to allow it to be configured for different sector sizes). Any other tricks I can try? Any suggestions for a replacement drive? (I'm not looking for anything fancy -- just would be nice to be able to burn CD's on this machine as it has most of my file archive attached to it) Thanks! --don

20 years, 4 months

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LNW Research computer

by pslysh1＠san.rr.com

Dear Sir I have an LNW 80, two TRS80's, 5" and 8" disk drives and tons of all software imaginable for these machines that I would like to sell. Please make an offer. Paul Slysh PS Associates 3047 Ducommun Ave. San Diego, CA 92122 Telephone 858 453-3810 E-mail paul at isogrid-sst.com Web site http://www.isogrid-sst.com Paul Slysh PS Associates 3047 Ducommun Ave. San Diego, CA 92122 Telephone 858 453-3810 E-mail paul at isogrid-sst.com Web site http://www.isogrid-sst.com

20 years, 4 months

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OT: Sun Blade 1000

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Still got about 4 years before it's ontopic, so I'll make it quick. Does the Sun Blade 1000 support "Suspend" like other Sun Workstations such as the Ultra 10 and Ultra 60 do? It's more than a little power hungry, and generates a lot of heat, so I don't want to keep it running full time. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

20 years, 4 months

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help...early Zenith multisyncer refusing to sync

by Gary＠realtimecomp.com

> Subject: help...early Zenith multisyncer refusing to sync > > dont have the model number handy, was the first unit to sport > a flat screen (but my SX-64 has a pretty flat screen...hmmmm. > Perhaps the curvature is more pronounced on larger tubes, > making teensy weensy ones seem flatter). Plugged in a VGA > signal...ewwww. What a mess. Not likely Id simply find a > toasted cap I bet. If the display in question was a FTM-xxxx (1490 I think) it is a fixed frequency monitor. 640x480 probably 60-65Hz.

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VAX 3500 Problems

by technobug＠comcast.net

Spent some time this past week trying to get a VAXStation 3500 he just got to boot. It immediately comes up with: ?64 2 08 FF 00 0000 Then dumps registers, goes through normal tests and declares that normal operation is not possible. From what I've been able to find so far is that test 64 is failing, but not what test 64 is... Does anyone know what the tests are, the meaning of the register dump and how to proceed? CRC

20 years, 4 months

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Zemu

by bqt＠update.uu.se

"Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> wrote: >I tried running Zemu in RT11 v5.3 in SIMH. >It starts and asks for a game file. I entered ZORK1.DAT (from a zork1.zip >I once downloaded). The ZORK1.DAT is 180 blocks. >Zemu aborts after some 10 [ZALLOC] messages: >[ZALLOC]: Insufficient memory] >We didn't get memory for dynamic data. Aborting... >[Entered ZEXIT] >[INPEND: timer cancelled] > >and then I am back at the RT-11 dot prompt. > >Next I tried ".VBGEXE ZEMU". >After a [ZINIT], three [ZALLOC] and one more [ZINIT] line, Zemu prints >"ZEMU/RT X00.19" >but then I return to the RT-11 prompt! > >The last attempt was starting VBGEXE.SAV without a program on the >startline. >VBGEXE asks for a program, and I entered ZEMU.SAV. >Now soem 20+ [ZALLOC] lines are printed, the last lines are the >following: >[GETSLN: returning 24. lines] >[GETSCL: returning 80. columns] >[GETSTP: returning terminal type 3.] >[PUTTXT: Address = 066736, count = 14. characters] ><[?7l<[2J,=<[r >?MON-F-Trap to 4 101566 >. > >So, it is getting further. The "<" is actually a small arrow. >I guess these are control sequences for a VTxxx terminal? Or NNANSI.SYS >stuff, >as the zork1.zip file contained a zork1.dat, an .exe and a Nnansi.com >file >(thus PC stuff). >Perhaps this ZORK.DAT file is not correct ...? >Or does the ZEMU.SAV need somethignfrom the RT-11 environment? Zane has >build Zemu in RT-11 V5.7, and my version is 5.3 ... Henk, looking at this, I suspect your third attempt was working fine. The problems there is probably because Zane built a version that didn't have all the needed ingredients. I've uploaded a (hopefully) working set of sources now. Let's see how that fares? And Zane, I also did the other changes I mentioned in my last mail, so maybe the now published sources built without any modifications? Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Zemu

by bqt＠update.uu.se

"Julian Wolfe" <fireflyst at earthlink.net> wrote: > Speaking of which, does anyone know whether it would be more advantageous to > run the RSX executables or the RT-11 ones in RSTS/E 9.6? I haven't tried, but I suspect the RSX version will not work in RSTS/E. I'm using some of the asynchronous features of RSX, which I believe the RSX emulation in RSTS/E don't cope with. You can try, but I think the RT-11 version have a better chance at working... Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Zemu

by bqt＠update.uu.se

"Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: >>> Hi Zane, >>> >>>here is the updated zipped RL02 disk container. >>>It has Zemu 1.10 just released by Johnny. >>>I changed the hex fields into octal fields ... >>> >>>You might first try the earlier sent zip, and then >>>this new one, to see a possible difference. >>>If you want a zip file with the original Zemu 1.10 >>>release from Johnny (without my hex->octal adjustment) >>>just ask, and I'll zip it for you. > > >OK, here are my quick and dirty results from RT-11 5.7... > >?LINK-W-Undefined globals: >$SAVVR >PICDAT >ERPIC >PICTBL >DRWPIC >INTVER >.SAVR1 >GAMINI > >I've added these to the end of ZRT.MAC with the other three undefined >routines. > >The resulting file runs on both 5.7 and 5.4, but I can't figure out >where my infocom data files are (which probably says something about >how badly I need to backup my PDP-11). It's to late at night now to >be booting the PDP-11 up to get them. (Henk, I'll email you the >binary tonight.) Whoops! I totally forgot some stuff, I see... Oh well, that's what happens when things wander out of sync. Get a new copy, will you. One file was missing: ZPIC.MAC, which implements PICDAT, ERPIC, PICTBL and DRWPIC. I've also written a $SAVVR and .SAVR1, which I've put in ZRTLIB.MAC, which you'll need. INTVER is a constant, which is just the interpreter version which should be set. Place it as a global constant in ZRT.MAC. In RSX, it's currently 103 "C", which probably should be the same in RT11. So, just place a INTVER == 103 Finally, GAMINI. You can just let that one do a return. And maybe then we're in business? Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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anyone have a terminal server?

by adamg＠pobox.com

Addendum to my previous message. I think you would be best off with several compact 8 to 16 port terminal servers, placed near the devices they service; that way, you just have a few long Ethernet cables and a bunch of short serial cables, rather than a bunch of long serial cables. Uhh, unless of course you want to take a big, heavy Xyplex Network 9000 off my hands (40 serial ports and 40 Ethernet ports, with room to expand), in which case a big centralized terminal server is just what you need! ;-) On the DECserver and similar machines, with a terminal plugged in, you get a prompt you can "connect foo" to connect to a LAT service, or "telnet foo" on TCP equipped machines. Some also allow "connect local port_1" to connect to a local serial port without going through a LAT service. On machines that support reverse LAT, you can associate port(s) with a service, and connect to those ports remotely. You could also connect to the command prompt with MOP and on some models with LAT, IIRC. On TCP equipped models, you could telnet in (sometimes to 23 and sometimes to a high port) and get to the command prompt (sometimes after authenticating). Also, each serial port could have a high TCP port associated with it for inbound connections. Some machines could associate an inbound TCP port with a service, for port rotaries, IIRC. Note that I am painting DECservers, ETS, MAXservers with a broad brush here; some brands may not support all features. Oh, and you could also set ports to have a dedicated service, so they don't get the CLI. And you could set up menus, too. On the Annex you get a non-DECserver-like CLI from a terminal or modem dialin, and you can telnet out from there -- or, IIRC, it can be set to automatically telnet to a given host, or set up with menus. Coming from the network, you could telnet to port 23 and get a prompt for which serial port you wanted to connect to. The ports could be arranged in rotaries and if all ports were busy you could wait for one to become available. At the prompt for the rotary name you could also ask for the CLI. Like the DECservers, you can connect directly to ports by using high TCP ports. (Some models of?) the Annex could also have multiple IP addresses, if I'm not mistaken, and could be set up so that a telnet to each address would end up at a different serial port. I believe Annexes were popular with universities, but some corporations and ISPs used them too. They later had a "Remote Annex" RAS product with built-in modems, similar to the Ascend MAX and Livingston PM3. On the LANrover, if you dial in on a modem, or if you telnet in, you get a login prompt, and once you authenticate you go to the CLI -- or a given account could be set in the account database to go straight to a specific destination. From the CLI you can telnet out, or you can connect to ports by name. There is no provision for direct telnet to a serial port by a high TCP port. -- Adam

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Dasher/One

by James＠jdfogg.com

> Hi All, > Does anyone have info or disks for a Data General > Dasher/One PC? I have one that I'm attempting to restore. > > Thanks > Rob In a pinch I think it will boot normal DOS. It was a DOS compatible machine.

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Tektronix 9200T is 4105, 9201T is 4205; 4205 docs?

by legalize＠xmission.com

OK, so I think I have figured out these "9200T" and "9201T" terminals. The 9200T has exactly the same case and internal circuits as the 4105 with a different set of ROMs from the 4105. However, as near as I can tell, the only difference in the ROMs is that the 9200T reports 9200 as the terminal type in setup. The 9201T has a slightly different enclosure and logic boards. Its setup reports the terminal type as 4205, ROM version 10 Level 9. This is obviously an enhanced ROM with what appears to be support for a larger graphics feature set, including local 2D segments. The keyboards on both are slightly different, with some of the keycaps changed in the function key row (setup and dialog are different than on the 4105) and a mouse port on the back of the keyboard. The connector is also different, an RJ type jack instead of a large 9-pin DIN style. So now I'm looking for documentation on the 4205 terminals. There's nothing on manx or bitsavers. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

20 years, 4 months

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Lets play name that game; Who has a better memory than me?

by rickb＠bensene.com

Sonds like 'rogue'. Rogue originally was written for Berkeley UNIX, but ports were done to early PC's running MSDOS. Rick Bensene The Old Calculator Web Museum http://oldcalculatormuseum.com -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of JP Hindin Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:13 PM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Lets play name that game; Who has a better memory than me? Answer: Darned near everyone. I'm trying to locate a game I used to play on my cousin's computer back in the early 90s. The game is most likely older than this, but I can't say how much. (The only other games on this machine was Test Drive (#1) and some horrendous ASCII golf game) The game was a top-down dungeon style game (As in the location, rather than D&D or Zork association). The game used ASCII characters to build out the 'map' that you walked through using the arrow guys to guide your character, if memory serves an *, running into monsters and treasure and the like. I -think- the dungeon view only took up a portion of the screen, perhaps the right-half only, and your view was fairly limited to a "if you were in the dungeon this would be the extent of your eye line" sort of thing. Pretty nifty. Does this sound famaliar to anyone? A name would be great, a link would be disco, and source code would be fascinating. Thanks all for your hive-mind; JP

20 years, 4 months

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IBM 3420 tape drive rescue

by pat＠computer-refuge.org

I've got a bit of a write up on the IBM 3420/3803 tape drive subsystem rescue I did this past week up finally. There's more info I hope to post, but this is what I've got processed so far... http://computer-refuge.org/compcollect/ibm/3420/ Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

20 years, 4 months

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IBM 3270 emulation card software?

by pat＠computer-refuge.org

So, I picked up an IBM "3270 Emulation Credit Card Adapter" off ebay, which I intend to hook to a 3174 Establishment controller. However, I'm not having much luck finding any 3270 emulator software that'll talk to it. Does anyone have any software that'll talk to the card (and emulate a 3270-style terminal) laying around which will work with this card? I'd prefer something for OS/2, DOS; I could deal with Windows 3.1 if I had to, but would prefer not if I don't need to. I intend to eventually use this in an actual S/390 (or ES/9000) setup once I get some software, and a machine working to boot it on. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

20 years, 4 months

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Card readers--idle curiosity

by cclist＠sydex.com

Okay, here's one for you historians. I know that many card readers used both optical as well as electrical contact technology, but did any use air pressure to sense card holes? This occurs to me because I've been listening to recordings of old piano rolls--which used a vacuum system to sense holes--and did their job remarkably well, considering that the technology's over 100 years old. Just an idle mind wanting to be amused... Cheers, Chuck

20 years, 4 months

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Replacment for INS1771 FD controller

by cctalk＠catcorner.org

I'm lazy tonight. Are there any pin compatible replacments for this chip? It is the SD floppy controller on my TRS-80 EI. It is very sick... Any sources for 1771 anywhere. I see lots of 197x available. Kelly

20 years, 4 months

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[TekScopes] FTP Site restored

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Aak... sorry. In all honesty, you're better off using a generic FTP client (such as WS_FTP) than a web browser. Doing FTP with an HTTP browser introduces additional overhead that can slow the transfer (at least that's been my experience. ftp.bluefeathertech.com is the address of interest. Happy hunting. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 29-Apr-06 at 10:27 DaveC wrote: >>I'm pleased to report that, after a much more strenuous than >>expected upgrade (bloody power supplies!), Blue Feather's FTP >>archive has been back up since about Tuesday last week. > >What's the URL of the FTP site? > >Thanks, >Dave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"

20 years, 4 months

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need info on an HP 8-bit scsi card

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

has an NCR 53c400 chip, an als245, and not much else. 4 dip swiches, presumably (hopefully) for setting the id. I have plans for this bad boy... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

20 years, 4 months

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recycledgoods.com prices?

by trs-80＠cableone.net

Check out their computer salvage prices. Wow! $200 for XT machines... $25 for 3.5" drives. All the salvage shops I've been to charge a few bucks for such items. Do some folks actually pay those kind of prices for common items?

20 years, 4 months

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Replacment for INS1771 FD cont

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Kelly, See my off list reply. The Double density controller and chip are fine, you just need a boot disk. Bill D

20 years, 4 months

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F*ck a f*cking duck

by mross666＠hotmail.com

Speechless... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8799118065 !!!!!! Better go revising my insurance - I have more that aren't in this picture: http://www.corestore.org/ibmpanels.jpg Mike http://www.corestore.org

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New update to GTTY...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I've been using GTTY a lot recently and discovered a feature that probably should have been there from day one: A "clear screen" commmand. Expecially helpful when you're running diagnostics and are getting errors - then swaping boards and reruning the diags. Hitting the "clear screen" key (F6) is handy for cleaning up the old diagnostic messages. To update your copy to this latest version: ftp://bickleywest.com/gtty92 Cheers, Lyle Note: For those who haven't been following "GTTY" - Its purpose is to act as a "Glass TTY" for a PDP-8/x, including paper tape reader and punch. It has "pacing" implemented, and supports baud rates from 110 to 38,400. The "txt" file includes documentation on both "GTTY" and the hardware modifications for implementing "pacing" for your PDP-8/x. Source code is included. Please also note that GTTY defaults to "pacing" mode - but if invoked as "gtty -n" will turn off pacing. -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

20 years, 4 months

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NetCommanders (was:anyone have a terminal server?)

by dm561＠torfree.net

-------------Original Message: From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: anyone have a terminal server? <snip> >Mine are certainly soft-configured. There are, IIRC, no internal DIP >switches at all. And IIRC, sending it some control codes (it _MAY_ be >^T^T) gets you some kind of prompt, from which you can configure the port >setings, logcially conenct ports together, etc. >I've figured out enough to make the PSU brick for it (just a transformer >+ fuses), and that sort of thing. I was wondering if there's anything >that's not obvious... >-tony -----------------Reply: Hmm, they sure sound different from what I've got here; are they made by Digital Products Inc.? Any idea when? These units all have internal power supplies. FWIW, access to the configuration menu is ~~M, but you get a full screen menu, not just a prompt. mike

20 years, 4 months

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Best vendor and price for Catweasel MK4?

by cctalk＠catcorner.org

> > > > > Looks like a Catweasel MK4 would really come in handy. > Any vendor recommendations with good pricing in the USA? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > AJ > > > > > > > I don't think there are many choices in the US. I've > normally used Softhut > > for Amiga related stuff, and have always been happy with them. > > > > Plus they have been around since the C64 time began! :) Softhut is a good bet. That's who Jens suggests too. Kelly

20 years, 4 months

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Best vendor and price for Catweasel MK4?

by trs-80＠cableone.net

Hi all, Looks like a Catweasel MK4 would really come in handy. Any vendor recommendations with good pricing in the USA? Thanks, AJ

20 years, 4 months

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9 track drive and tapes on eBay UK

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> SCSI interface - almost certainly really HP tho' described as "SUN". It is an 88780. Most interesting thing about it is that it will probably have the 800bpi option.

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9 track drive and tapes on eBay UK

by kossow＠computerhistory.org

> SCSI interface - almost certainly really HP tho' described as "SUN". It is an 88780. Most interesting thing about it is that it will probably have the 800bpi option.

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ISO: SGI VW320 parts

by dgy＠DakotaCom.Net

Hi, I've inherited a VW320 but it is missing the drive cage. If I can get it running, I'd also be looking for some extra memory for it (wacky 40 bit? modules). I *think* I can replace the single CPU with a pair of off-the-shelf "matched" processors? Or, is this box not worth the time to get it running? Thanks! --don

20 years, 4 months

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Zemu

by henk.gooijen＠oce.com

Hi Zane, here is the updated zipped RL02 disk container. It has Zemu 1.10 just released by Johnny. I changed the hex fields into octal fields ... You might first try the earlier sent zip, and then this new one, to see a possible difference. If you want a zip file with the original Zemu 1.10 release from Johnny (without my hex->octal adjustment) just ask, and I'll zip it for you. thanks, - Henk. > Rats, I was afraid that PUTR was still the only way to do > this. Can you email me a copy of zemu.dsk? I don't > currently have a system setup that will run PUTR. > > I can at least see if it will still build under RT-11 5.7. > While I was working on learning MACRO-11 a few years ago, > real life stepped in, so I doubt I can do much in the way of > fixing actual problems. > > Zane > This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.

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9 track drive and tapes on eBay UK

by andyh＠andyh-rayleigh.freeserve.co.uk

see lot 8803325888 Price (?50) looks a little on the high side but does include 26 tapes SCSI interface - almost certainly really HP tho' described as "SUN". I have bought from company before - they seemed reasonable. This (very heavy!) drive will almost certainly need manoeuvering down a flight of stairs. Parking is tight but should be possible. Andy

20 years, 4 months

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New of Enterasys death is exagerated....

by dave＠mitton.com

On 4/26/2006 07:45 AM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote: >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:49:48 +0100 >From: <a.carlini at ntlworld.com> >Subject: RE: anyone have a terminal server? - Xyplex, Xylogics, and > DEC history > >David Mitton wrote: > > > The former DEC terminal server line was spun off to Cabletron, and the > > remains live in Enterasys. > >The DEC terminal servers did indeed go to Cabletron (as did all >of NPB iirc). When Cabletron split up, the terminal servers >ended up in DNPG. I've lost track of them now, but a few years >ago their "legacy" terminal servers line had been sent off >somewhere else. > >FWIW: Enterasys are no more, having been bought up by some >management company or other and Riverstone (the other Cabletron >spinoff) were sold on the block to Lucent (who almost immediately >afterwards seem set to vanish into Alcatel). > >Antonio > >-- > >Antonio carlini >arcarlini at iee.org Antonio, Enterasys is still quite alive. http://www.enterasys.com They recently moved from NH to near (or in) the old Andover plant. I'm still in touch with Dave Nelson, who is current co-chair of the IETF RADIUS Extentions Working Group. Dave worked on DECservers while in LKG. Looks like they are using the RoamAbout(r) name for their wireless stuff. Dave.

20 years, 4 months

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More info on IBM SP-2 Parallel super computer for rescue at Uof W, Seattle, May 6th

by innfoclassics＠gmail.com

http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/may2006catalog.html Catalog info out. It is item number 1 IBM SP2 (7 NODES) MAINFRAME COMPUTER WHICH INCLUDES: Frame has enhanced HPS Switch, 1 wide node, dual processor, 1GB memory; 2 thin nodes, each with four processors, 1GB memory; 2 thin nodes, each with four processors, 2GB memory; 2 thin nodes, each with four processors, 4GB memory; Each node has 2-9.1GB SCSI disks, 14 disks total, 127.4GB total capacity Going to be an interesting sale. I used to go to this regularly 10 years ago. I see they have online bidding now. -- Paxton Hoag Astoria, OR USA

20 years, 4 months

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ISO: SGI VW320 parts

by ken＠seefried.com

I'm totally unfamiliar with the VW320 (which means this is undoubtedly useless advice), but at least some of the SGI Visual Workstations were secretly Tyan Thunder 2500 (aka S1867) based, and could be flashed to a far more forgiving Tyan BIOS. Perhaps there's a similar sheep in wolves clothing here?

20 years, 4 months

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8080 Assembler-Text Editor (ATE)

by ljw-cctech＠ljw.me.uk

I've got a hex dump here of an Assembler/Text Editor for the 8080, called (IIRC) ATE. It's what I used on my first computer (8080 S100 8k + KC tape). It's about 4k, so I had 4k for source + object, or it could work as a 2-pass assembler reading the source off tape. Does anyone know about this? Is it of interest to anyone? I could either type it in, or scan the listing for someone else :-) The code would need patching for console & tape I/O, and I don't have any documentation on how to do this, or even how to use it, but it can't be too difficult. Forgive me, it's been almost 30 years! LJW I've been quiet lately, see http://www.ljw.me.uk/porsche for an idea why :-( -- Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360

20 years, 4 months

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11/45 interrupts

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I'm getting a little time to go back and work on my 11/45 project... Tony wrote... >> So, I would propose the following tests : >> >> 1) Make sure you can read/write all bits from external memort. Just write >> 1, 2, 4 ,8, 16,.... to successive locations using the panel and examing >> them. Jsut to eliminate a silly fault like a dead data buffer. If there was a dead data buffer, how on earth could the machine sucessfully boot and run xxdp+? I will try this test anyways. >> 2) Run the basic instruction diagnostic if you've not done so already. >> This should veryify that the data paths are OK. I am having some trouble finding the right diagnostic for basic instruction test on the /45. I will find it tonight and post the results. >> 3) If possible, try some other interrupting device. An obvious one is the >> console receiver. Wirre a program to : Load all the vectors with .+2, >> HALT >> as you did for the line time clock test that's failing.; Read the >> Console >> Rx data register to clear the data received bit (if necessary); then >> enable the receiver interrupt; and go into an endless loop. Then you >> press >> a key on the conosle. The processor should halt, but _where_ does it >> halt. If 4, then it appears the processor is ignoring all vectors. I think I see what you're saying. After I try the first two tests, I will need some clarification on this and post again :) >> Hopefully this will point us in the right direction to look for the >> fault. I hope so, I need to get this machine done to consolidate some room the basement that the wife is eyeing for her use ;) Jay

20 years, 4 months

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Dasher/One

by rborsuk＠colourfull.com

Hi All, Does anyone have info or disks for a Data General Dasher/One PC? I have one that I'm attempting to restore. Thanks Rob

20 years, 4 months

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anyone have a terminal server?

by dm561＠torfree.net

-----------Original Message: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:19:17 +0100 (BST) From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: anyone have a terminal server? >> In article <01C6674D.4F8CAD40 at MSE_D03>, >> M H Stein <dm561 at torfree.net> writes: >> >> And I've got a bunch of Digital Products NC16/250 NetCommanders. >You don't know anything about older NetCommanders, do you? >I have a unit on my desk here that's got 16 RS232 ports (IIRC it's 8 >plug-in daughterboards with 2 ports on each board). The mainboard has a >Z80A on it I think, and 4 RAM cards (IIRC 256K bytes each). I also have >-- somwhere -- some smaller units with 10 ports (6 serial, 4 parallel), >all on one PCB. >I can dig out model numebrs, etc, if you think you might be able to help >-tony --------- Reply: Sorry, Tony, much as I'd like to repay you for all the contributions you've made, I don't think I can help very much. No info on the old modular units at all, and the '86 price list & brochure I'm looking at doesn't mention any 10 port models either. I don't have any technical info in any case, just the Installation/Reference Manual and the Applications guide for the NC4, NC7, NC8 and NC16. The NC4 (4 serial) & 7 (4 serial, 3 par.) have configuration switches on the front, while the 8 & 16 are programmed from a terminal. If you think there might be anything useful in there, let me know. I do have several boxes full of manuals for terminals & printers, etc. that I haven't looked through for quite a while; if by chance I find anything I'll let you know. BTW, the typical applications are made to order for this list ;-) : -How to connect 10 VT-100s to a 6 port VAX... -How to connect 8 terminals to a VAX and a DG... -How to connect several 9600bd VT-100s to several 1200 bd Hayes modems... -Using it as an e-mail server for dumb terminals or PCs... -Switching between a Laser printer & a plotter... Those were the days... and all that for only US$ 2995 ! mike

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Absurd algorithms (was:RE: Programmer's conundrums)

by korpela＠ssl.berkeley.edu

On 4/14/06, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote: > On Fri, 14 Apr 2006, woodelf wrote: > > a.carlini at ntlworld.com wrote: > > > I'm sure Knuth mentions "random-sort" as being worse (randomly > > > shuffle elements, check if order correct, if not then repeat). > > Sounds like it would have the smallest memory ( data and code) > > footprint around. > > a bit larger than a bubble sort. > But, at least it would tend to be slower. It's called bogosort. It's O(N!) if your random number generator is perfect. Pseudocode from the wikipedia entry: --------------------------------------------------------------------- function bogosort(array) while not is_sorted(array) array := random_permutation(array) --------------------------------------------------------------------- The only worse (speed wise) sorting algorithm that I know of is what I call the infinitysort(). It just waits for random physical processes to sort the array. It is O((BN)!) where B is the size of the objects in bits. pseudocode representation is... --------------------------------------------------------------------- function infinitysort(array) while (not is_sorted(array)) or contains_different_elements(array) wait --------------------------------------------------------------------- You could greatly improve this algorithm by changing wait to "generate a random bit pattern the same size as array" The fastest sort I know of is the O(1) sort called nosort(). It's pseudocode is --------------------------------------------------------------------- function nosort(array) --------------------------------------------------------------------- It's only problem is that its probability of getting the right answer is equal to the probability that the array is already sorted.

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"proto" Alpha? - Anyone know what this thing is?

by dave06a＠dunfield.com

RXed this machine on the weekend. It appears to be an Alpha of some sort. Physically looks like a generic ATX PC clone, in a standard ATX case with powers supply - has PS/2 keyboard/mouse, two COM and 1 LPT ports. The board has two standard PCI slots, what appears to be two extended (64 bit?) PCI slots, and two ISA slots. Now the parts that don't look so much like a PC: - The memory consists of an array of 4 DIMMs, which although I haven't counted them, look like 168pin sockets. But the DIMMs are about three times the height of a normal DIMM, and do say "Digital" (as in DEC) on them. - Honkin big ceramic CPU - has studs in it for mounting the heatsink directly to the CPU chip. Under the heatsink is the following printed on the ceramic edge of the CPU: DEC 1026J H 9707 PROTO JD0855 (C) (M) DEC 1995 It was pretty well stripped when I got it - Had installed what looks like a generic S3 PCI video card (ie: looks like a PC card), and some sort of ISA multi-channel video capture card. The mainboard has 2 IDE and 1 floppy connectors although no such drives or cabling were in it - There was a SCSI CD in the enclosure, bit no SCSI controller (however several of the backplates were missing suggesting there might have been additional cards. The two cards that were in it were not actually fastened in - so they may or may not belong with it. Anyone know what this thing might be? Unfortunately it doesn't appear to do anything - No video, no beeps, no serial port activity, no toggeling of status lights on the keyboard - does power-up and down with the front panel button, but does nothing else. (It occurs to me that if the video card were not the correct one, the Alpha obviously would not know how to run the x86 BIOS on a PC card and it might either crash (if it tried to execute it), or get hung up because it doesn't have a video device it can talk to. (I haven't tried the video card in a PC, but I will at some point). It's probably a doorstop, but I wanted to check and see if anyone recognizes it --- the "PROTO" on the CPU seems interesting ... Could this be a prototype of some sort? Regards, Dave -- dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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OSI Addition to collection

by nospam212-cctalk＠yahoo.com

Received a nice addition to the collection today. An OSI Challenger 2P with a monitor and a LOT of cassette software. The really nice part for me was the ton of documentation, newsletters and books that came with it! Ok it isn't really a ton but it sure felt like it when I carried it in from the car. Now to spend time sorting and cataloging everything and checking out the system. Add the issues of the TRS-80 newsletter and Softside I received the day before and it's been a fun week. ----- David Williams http://www.trailingedge.com

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"proto" Alpha? - Anyone know what this thing is?

by ken＠seefried.com

From: <a.carlini at ntlworld.com> > John Allain wrote: > > Anybody dismiss this as not a Multia yet? > >I didn't think that Multias were ATX format. Correct. > That sounds a lot more like the later 164LX/SX > boards (or the equivalent 3rd party boards). Another possibility are the older PC64 (based on the 21064 or 21064A) boards, which are actually more baby AT format but have PS/2 connectors for mouse/kbd. I've got a PC64-275, which was a scorcher circa 1995.

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DUNGEON (Zork) & MIT's 545 Tech. Sq.

by bqt＠update.uu.se

"Eric F." <elf at ucsd.edu> wrote: > Johnny Billquist wrote: > > If ZORK were ever to run on any other machine > > that machine first and foremost would have to > > have MDL. You know if SDS had that? > > A quick scan of my MDL manuals: > > "The MDL Programming Language" by Galley & Pfister > > and > > "The MDL Programming Environment" by Lebling > > (both published by Laboratory for Computer Science @ MIT) > > show that MDL only ran on ITS, Tenex, and TOPS-20. All which are operating systems for the PDP-10, which I hope you know. :-) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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DUNGEON (Zork) & MIT's 545 Tech. Sq.

by elf＠ucsd.edu

Johnny Billquist wrote: > If ZORK were ever to run on any other machine > that machine first and foremost would have to > have MDL. You know if SDS had that? A quick scan of my MDL manuals: "The MDL Programming Language" by Galley & Pfister and "The MDL Programming Environment" by Lebling (both published by Laboratory for Computer Science @ MIT) show that MDL only ran on ITS, Tenex, and TOPS-20. SDS, on the other hand, ran the CP-V operating system. So I suppose that Zork never did make it onto an SDS machine. I do, however, clearly remember an SDS machine on the 9th floor at 545 Tech Sq. during my tour back in the early 80s. I was a youngin' though, and was just in heaven being so close to all these cool machines which I had only been accessing through a TIP from across the country (via the RAND-TIP in Los Angeles). Furthermore, I only had access to a printing terminal back home (300 baud, thermal paper, acoustic (loose fitting, noisy) coupler) -- so once I was given the tour, and then a seat at a CRT with a 9600 baud connection, well, I don't think I slept for 48 hours... Those were the days... only taking a break at sunrise for a food run with some of the other all-nighters hanging out there. Eventually, the folks at RAND caught up with my (non-authorized) usage -- and politely asked my to cease accessing the TIP. This was my first experience of going through a "withdrawal" syndrome -- I practically lived on those MIT machines (via their Tourist accounts they gave out.) -Eric F.

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NCD "secure" keyboard

by dgy＠DakotaCom.Net

Hi, Has anyone ever *seen* one of these? Or, is it a "documentation shortcoming"? Thanks! --don

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American Automation emulators?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Jim, I just did a Google search for American Automation EZ-pro and found ebay auction #7590626029. The pod shown in the picture there looks EXACTLY like mine including the slope front but mine doesn't have the CPU number on the box. So it looks like that's what I have. I'll get a more complete list of what I have tomorrow. Thanks for the tip. BTW when I searched for American Amutomation before I did find the link to Arium and I thought that might be what I was looking for but the link was dead! Joe At 05:06 PM 4/26/06 -0700, you wrote: >Joe R. wrote: > >> Is anyone familar with this stuff? I picked up a pile of it a week or >>two back. The pod that I'm looking at right now if for the 6800/02/08 but I >>think the others are for other CPUs. Anyone know what system it's for? The >>interface board uses the same type female connectors as the ss-50 stuff but >>many more pins and much larger circuit card. I found some mentions on the >>net but nothing useful. >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> >I work for arium. What do you have? We are now American Arium, and >I can at least find out what you have it you send photos or descriptions. > >I suspect maybe you either have an analyzer with some trace pods, or >if you have run control, you may have an EZ/Pro system. > >Jim >

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Boast of the day

by aw288＠osfn.org

While rummaging around a secret scrapyard, Dan Cohoe and I dug up the remains of an Intel 432/600 micromainframe, based on the ill fated 432 processor. All that was left in the pile was the plastic case parts and front panel, power supply and keyboard. That is all... William Donzelli aw288 at osfn.org

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American Automation emulators?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone familar with this stuff? I picked up a pile of it a week or two back. The pod that I'm looking at right now if for the 6800/02/08 but I think the others are for other CPUs. Anyone know what system it's for? The interface board uses the same type female connectors as the ss-50 stuff but many more pins and much larger circuit card. I found some mentions on the net but nothing useful. Joe

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F*ck a f*cking duck

by henk.gooijen＠oce.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of jim stephens > Sent: donderdag 27 april 2006 8:29 > To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: F*ck a f*cking duck > > with prices like this it seems like it may be time to fab up > some reproductions, with Hercules SBC's inside blink'n the > lights. I would almost buy such a gizmo, and have been > sorely tempted to go for one of the Pdp 8's on a wall that > are around, and so nice. Drool on www.pdp-11.nl/homebrew/pdp8/pdp8startpage.html or www.pdp-11.nl/homebrew/cons1170/cons70startpage.html Have a *good* look at the front panel of the SBC6120, and compare it with a real pdp8/e. You will notice that a few switches are missing. Then check out my front panel ... Given the Blinkenlight board set, you can build a replica yourself either by (a lot of) DYI, or by grabbing a panel of eBay and make a box around it. I am waiting on the arrival of an order of IDC headers for the I/O Board to finish the 11/70 console ... - Henk, PA8PDP. BTW, I will finish the 11/70 console and the first chap that offers $10,000.- will get it :-) - working, running RT11, Advent and perhaps RSX with the chasing light pattern ... This message and attachment(s) are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or agent thereof responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and with a "reply" message. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Zemu

by bqt＠update.uu.se

"Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> wrote: > OK, thanks Johnny. > I have a day off, but that's for working in the garden. > This evening (when my back is hurting) I will change the hex values to octal. That should fix the first problem, and that should be easy... > If somebody could make the SYSTEM.MLB avalilable in a .zip file, would that > be sufficient to solve the second issue ? Might. I don't know what macros are used, and what they do. Remember, I don't really know RT-11. But, like I said, it might be that just commenting that line out, and see what macros fail will give you enough clues to what is missing that you can either safely remove that, or write those macros on your own. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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DEC Gigi terminal

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> As I recall it was connected > to the controller board in the VAX via a fibre optic cable. That was the VS-100, which is of historical interest because it was was what the X Window system was developed on. GIGIs are raster termials using the REGIS command set. "REGIS graphics GIGI" turns up a few interesting google hits.

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HP 106B Quartz Frequency Standard?

by bobalan＠sbcglobal.net

I scanned the two pages from the 1967 HP catalog. You can find it here: http://www.dvq.com/docs/hp106_107.pdf It's a very nice quartz standard. Bob Message: 30 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:03:33 From: "Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com> Subject: HP 106B Quartz Frequency Standard? To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Message-ID: <3.0.6.16.20060426200333.18778810 at pop-server.cfl.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can't find this in any of the catalogs that I have. Can anyone tell me anything about it?

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HP 106B Quartz Frequency Standard?

by lee＠geekdot.com

Bother! I hit send then find this .. http://www.tucker.com/images/images_spec/00000927.pdf It should tell you what you need to know. Lee.

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HP 106B Quartz Frequency Standard?

by lee＠geekdot.com

> I can't find this in any of the catalogs that I have. Can anyone tell > me anything about it? A heated XTAL oscillator used to derive 5MHz, 1MHz and 100KHz reference outputs. Short term stability is probably around 1 part in 10^11 with long term stability an order worse. Units like this are often used as the master reference at HF, MF and LF transmitter sites and should be calibrated periodically against a better reference like a Rubidium standard. Without calibration this is just as accurate as any XTAL source as the frequency can usually be adjusted over 1 part in 10^7 and have a fine tune (which if I remember the HP unit is a voltage input) that has a range of 1 part in 10^8 Lee.

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HP 106B Quartz Frequency Standard?

by technobug＠comcast.net

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:03:33, "Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com> wrote: > I can't find this in any of the catalogs that I have. Can anyone > tell me > anything about it? > You are the proud owner of an extremely stable 5, 1 MHz, and 100 kHZ frequency standard. The drift over 24 hours is less than 5x10e-11. Before atomic standards became "affordable", these beasties were the secondary standards used in the lab. CRC

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Tektronix PEP301 mystery resolved

by legalize＠xmission.com

OK, still sifting through this big pile o' stuff from DoveBid :-) Some of you may recall that the lot included a PEP301 16 MHz System Controller and I didn't know what it was. Well, its an IEEE-488 system controller built as an interface card and software combination for a 386 PC clone. Its all branded with Tektronix logos though: main unit, monitor and keyboard. Although there were no seals, it appears new in box with a full set of manuals and software diskettes. The manuals are a stock set of manuals for PC clones of the era (GW-BASIC, MS-DOS 3.3, owner's manual for the PC) and a manual for the Tektronix HPIB software utilities. There is this little dinky pamphlet sort of manual for the keyboard. People seem to be selling that online for some reason as if you need help in figuring out a standard 101-key IBM PC keyboard? I'll be scanning the Tektronix manual and uploading at some point and try to make some disk images of the non-standard software bits. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

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more docs scanned (Random Colleague, Silent 700, Tektronix 4041)

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Al Kossow, would you prefer I email you new PDFs for incorporation to > BitSavers in the future? an email and URL are fine.

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more docs scanned (Random Colleague, Silent 700, Tektronix 4041)

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/vintage/docs.html> New: Random Corporation - Colleague & Colleague Plus User's Guide Aug 1988 (15.9M PDF) Tektronix - 4041R01 Graphics ROM May 1985 (5.8 MB PDF) - 4041R02 Plotting ROMPack Feb 1985 (6 MB PDF) - 4041R04 Utility ROMPack Jul 1985 (1.6 MB PDF) Texas Instruments - Silent 700 Model 703/707 Quick Reference Card (250K PDF) - Silent 700 Auto-Access Cartrdige Quick Reference Card (86K PDF) - Silent 700 Model 707 Battery Pack Option (51K PDF) - Silent 700 Model 707 User's Manual (6.3 MB PDF) Al Kossow, would you prefer I email you new PDFs for incorporation to BitSavers in the future? There's more stuff coming... -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

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anyone have a terminal server?

by dm561＠torfree.net

------------Original Message: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:01:58 -0500 From: "Dave Dunfield" <dave06a at dunfield.com> Subject: Re: anyone have a terminal server? >> I'm looking to acquire a terminal server so I can feed all the beasts >> simultaneously :-). >Richard, >I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for ... but I do have a >spare Newbridge 1032 data PBX. It goes up to 56 ports, and I >have scads of cards for it, so I can give you the full 56. >the 1032 is an async data PBX - it supports speeds from 50-19200 >bps, and runs each interface independantly with buffering and >flow-control to accomodate mismatched speeds (ie: your computers >and terminals don't all have to run the same speed). <snip> ----------------- And I've got a bunch of Digital Products NC16/250 NetCommanders. Similar to Dave's Newbridge units; 16 ports/256K buffer, RJ-45 RS232 only (110-19200bd) (on one main board, unlike the Newbridge). Cascade for more ports. Literature & docs available. Also some Datagram StatMuxes, modems, line drivers, converters &c. mike

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LF: Sony PCG-505G port replicator (for older VAIO notebook)

by dave06a＠dunfield.com

Looking for a Sony PCGA-PR5 port replicator. This is a small box with a cable that fits the I/O connector of older Sony VAIO notebooks and provides access to parallel, serial, video and keyboard/mouse ports. I've put a picture of it at: http://www.dunfield.com/pub/pcgapr5.jpg It came standard with the VAIO PCG-505G (which is what I am looking for it for), and probably other sub-notebooks. Anyone got one kicking around? Regards, Dave Dunfield -- dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Plethora of Pictures from TCF 2006 ;)

by bpope＠wordstock.com

GOTO http://home.comcast.net/~bryan.pope/index.html Cheers, Bryan P.S. That is my C64 setup in the TCF pix.

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MYcom Instruments PLL-DataSender?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Last week I found a curious looking board marked MYcom Instruments PLL-DataSender. It has a five position terminal strip on the top edge with some wires dangling from it, a ZIP socket with what looks like an EPROM (it has a lable on it so I can't read the PN), an LCD display and six pushbottons on the bottom edge marked "reset", "mode", "send", "up', "down" and "<cursor>". I can get a display on it and the cursor move things around and pull up four different displays but I can't fingure out what it's supposed to do. Anybody know anything about it? Joe

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HP 106B Quartz Frequency Standard?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I can't find this in any of the catalogs that I have. Can anyone tell me anything about it?

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SAGE film 1956

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://www.archive.org/details/OnGuard1956> Lots of nice shots of the equipment... -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

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anyone have a terminal server?

by legalize＠xmission.com

I'm looking to acquire a terminal server so I can feed all the beasts simultaneously :-). Before a couple days ago, I didn't know anything about terminals servers beyond the fact that they existed, so consider me a n00b. I see that DEC has had a line of terminal servers. They look like they would do the job (my needs are more along the lines of connectivity rather than fancy features like 3270 support). Reading around on the net indicates that Xylogics had a good line of terminal servers, but that the similarly named Xyplex had buggy product. I'm not fixated on the DEC brand, but it looks like they made lots of product over the years making them readily available and reasonably priced. I'm looking for at least 16 ports, preferably 32 as I've already got more than 16 terminals :-). Whether those 32 ports come in one box or two boxes (or even 4 boxes) is not so much a concern to me as is the total cost of acquisition. Ultimately this could feed into a public interactive museum space exhibit on timesharing. At the moment I could connect the following: - DEC LA-120 VT-100 VT-278 - Heath/Zenith Z-19 - Hewlett-Packard HP1351A HP2397A HP2621A HP2648A (2) - Honeywell VIP 7809 - Lear Siegler ADM-3A ADM-5 (2) - Megatek Whizzard 1645 - Tektronix 4010 4014 4105 (4) 9200T (6) 9201T (8) - Televideo 925 - Teletype Model 43 - Texas Instruments Silent 700 (2) - Westinghouse W1643 Total: 39 Now realistically, I don't think it would be fruitfull to connect all 39 terminals in my collection as i) I plan on liquidating some of the Tektronxi 9200T/9201Ts, one of the Silent 700s only has a modem interface on the exterior and the Westinghouse doesn't have a keyboard and has some sort of weird party line interface. However, even if you factor all of those out of the picture a 32-port server still only leaves me a few ports open. I'd probably need to get up to 64 line capacity at some point. Suggestions? Currently I've been looking at the DECserver stuff on ebay; they seem relatively plentiful and it seems that with patience a good price could be had. There's a bundle of them on govliq right now, but the operating condition is unknown. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>

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