- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by binarydinosaurs＠gmail.com

Hi folks, I've been chatting to someone who has a TRS80 Model 4 that's giving him a horizontal sync issue, is there anyone around the Fremont area who could give him a hand with it? Cheers -- adrian/witchy Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer collection? t: @binarydinosaurs f: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk

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Houston stash sorting this coming Saturday

by sales＠elecplus.com

The 2 sheds will be sorted next Saturday morning, early, in Katy, TX. If you want the address, pls email me. If you are in the Austin, TX area, there might be room in a carpool. Same for the Minneapolis and Michigan areas. If you are coming, please wear sturdy boots, gloves, bring bottled water, and dress in layers, as it might be either 35F or 75F that day. Bring your own food. Bring cash, no checks or cc. Not sure about restroom facilities. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Orphan HP Alphaservers looking for a new home

by rlloken＠telus.net

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, Jim Manley wrote: > I've got everything lined up to do a full pickup, except the timing. It > will have to be next Saturday, 2/2, or preferably 2/9, but I appreciate > that the owner has waited this long. The only potential bugaboo could be > the weather, but the cycle seems to be favorable at the moment. However, I > just heard that the dreaded Polar Vortex may bust out of The Great White > North and cause Al Gore to switch from air conditioning to heating in his > oversized 50,000-foot environment-unto-itself mansion in Tennessee. February 2 would be the best date. I am away the weekend of February 8 and would have to get somebody else meet you and help you load. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear, Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

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WTB - HP 25567-60003 & A2263-66536 LAN cards

by jesse＠cypress-tech.com

If anyone has and they want to sell or trade, I'm in need of... 25567-60003?? LAN card EISA board - for HP 9000 7xx series workstations A2263-66536?? LAN / RS232 board - for the 9000 712 series workstations Thanks Jesse Cypress Technology Inc

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HP board "gold recovery" garbage

by cmhanson＠eschatologist.net

This hurts my heart: HP Gold vintage 1970's high yeld recovery plated ic chips leads w palladium caps https://www.ebay.com/itm/382505855460 Who cares what something could do, there might be pennies worth of gold to be had! -- Chris

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Jesse and the ebay mess

by sales＠elecplus.com

I just got off the phone with Jesse at Cypress. He said he did not post the gold and tantalum items on ebay. It is someone else, trying to cast a bad name on him. I explained to him that the list would really like to work with him, and that old HP stuff is wanted. He explained that each item is put into a system, fully tested, and has warranty and follow up support if needed, so prices are not low. I explained to him that many list members can do board level repairs. I suggested a "garage sale" type scenario, where he offers as-is equip, to save the costs of paying a tech to test everything. He is open to that idea. He has pallets of old terminals and keyboards that he does not work on anymore, so no warranty. I told him that if he would test the monitor to make sure it turns on, and include a complete matching keyboard, members would prob pay about $85 plus shipping for a set. He does have a 150, and a lot of 1970s and 80s terminals and keyboards. He said he will gather them together and do a basic test and offer some out, on an as-is basis. Please understand that he is a business (for the past 30 years), and he does have to cover costs of storage, technicians, etc. No, he won't sell stuff for $5. It costs him more than that to pay someone to find the stuff and pack it. Please bear his needs in mind too. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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TeleVideo

by pat＠vax11.net

For anyone interested, I've restarted my blog on things I've been doing with TeleVideo systems, and have the first two parts (out of maybe a dozen or so planned) up. http://worldofvax.blogspot.com/2019/01/televideo-systems-part-i.html http://worldofvax.blogspot.com/2019/01/televideo-systems-part-ii-keyboards.… Pat

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WTB - HP 25567-60003 & A2263-66536 LAN cards

by jesse＠cypress-tech.co

If anyone has and they want to sell or trade, I'm in need of... 25567-60003?? LAN card EISA board - for HP 700 series workstations A2263-66536?? LAN / RS232 board - for the 712 series workstations Thanks Jesse Cypress Technology Inc

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HP board "gold recovery" garbage

by couryhouse＠aol.com

I learn something? new? then... when? ?was? palladium?used?? ?was it? around in? the? 2100? hp? days or? was this? ?used? later?? ?and? I had not heard of? it? Ed#In a message dated 1/23/2019 6:47:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, paulkoning at comcast.net writes: palladium

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PDP-11 ID page, a few images needed

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

In response to a request a couple of years back from Cindy, I've been slowly working on a page to help scrappers identify PDP-11's, and give them an idea what to look for. I have it _mostly_ done: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/PDP-11_Models.html Comments/error-checking etc welcome. Also, I still need images of a few things: -11/60 and -11/94 front consoles, the original LSI-11 card, the KDJ11-E, and most of the DEC QBUS boxes. (Yeah, I could try looking for free images, I've been busy!) Any help gratefully received! Noel

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CR11 M8290/M8291 difference??

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

Does anyone know what the difference is between the M8290 and M8291 versions of the CR11? The only version of the CR11 manual online only seems to cover the M8290? Noel

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HP board "gold recovery" garbage

by couryhouse＠aol.com

tantalum maybe? Ed# In a message dated 1/23/2019 3:26:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: palladium claim.

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WTB - HP 1000 Series SCSI Card A12016

by jesse＠cypress-tech.com

I have a need for an SCSI card for A series. The part number is 12016A / 12016-60101 Thanks Jesse Cypress Technology Inc Jesse at Cypress-Tech.com

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cctalk Digest, Vol 52, Issue 22

by fred＠MISER.MISERNET.NET

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 19:08:46 -0500 > From: Jesse Dougherty <jesse at cypress-tech.com> > Subject: Hewlett-Packard 3000, 9000, Itanium (HP-UX & MPE/iX) Servers, > Storage Arrays, Replacement Parts, Maintenance, & Disaster back-ups > HP 3000 MPE/iX PA-RISC servers (aka e3000) I've always wanted a 3000 system to play with after using one (as a user only) many years and many jobs ago. Epay prices seem a little high. $current_job had one years ago and sold it on eBay for $250 (I found the sold listing in a folder ...). I cried a little. It wasn't a fill the floor model - but it had to have had a little "oomph" as it supported 30-40 interactive users all day. I agree with the other posters and the list-boss - if you provide hobbyist pricing I'd be game. You're not going to get far with commercial or "high price just because it's rare but not in demand" pricing. Otherwise, I offer fifty bucks ... :) Fred

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WTB - HP 1000 Series A990 System

by jesse＠cypress-tech.com

I have a need for an A990 system. If anyone has one that they want to part with, let me know. Thanks Jesse Cypress Technology Inc Jesse at Cypress-Tech.com

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Hewlett-Packard 3000, 9000, Itanium (HP-UX & MPE/iX) Servers, Storage Arrays, Replacement Parts, Maintenance, & Disaster back-ups

by jesse＠cypress-tech.com

Man you guys are tough... We sell this old HP stuff, thats what we do. There is no commercial or retail price in 20+ year old items. Its comes down to what we have into it, what others are selling them for, and what the demand is. Jay, I dont recall quoting you a 12920, I went back 3 years on my sent emails and I cant find it. I dont remember what the price or circumstances were. If I had that info, I could understand and explain the price that I quoted you .. but I'm glad you found what you needed... sorry if you were offended. As for me posting an intro on this site.. I have a boat load of older HP stuff and I'm always trying to find homes for. If my info or parts helps someone get the part or system they need, then its a win for everyone. I'm not some spam bot that just sends crap email out, we are a very small company thats been around for 25 years and we have a lot of knowledge with this older 1000, 3000, 9000, & Itanium hardware. Resellers get flack from everyone but small HP vendors like us help keep the wheels of this older HP machine rolling. Try to buy a 25 year old system from HP, they will try to sell you a x86.. :-) Again, it was an intro and if it offended anyone, please accept my apologies* *

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Buyer beware

by sales＠elecplus.com

I almost NEVER do this, but please be VERY cautious if dealing with CU Digital in Sadorus, IL. He does have a few model Ms and maybe some Fs, but I STRONGLY suggest you pick them up in person and have a laptop and an adapter to test them before buying. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Change in UNIBUS parity operation (Was: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem)

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> Even better, it claims to be able to control whether the memory uses odd > or even parity! (How, for UNIBUS memory, I don't know - there's no way to do > this over the UNIBUS. So this really confused me, as the UNIBUS spec says parity is wholly within the slave device, and only an _error_ signal is transferred over the bus. E.g. from the 'pdp11 peripherals handbook', 1975 edition (pg. 5-8): "PA and PB are generated by a slave ... [it] negates PA and asserts PB to indicate a parity error ... both negated indicates no parity error. [other combinations] are conditions reserved for future use." The answer is that originally the UNIBUS parity operation was _different_, and that sometime around the introduction of the PDP-11/45, they _changed_ it, which is apparently why Appendix E, about parity in the /45, says what it does! I found the first clue in the MM11-F Core Memory Manual (DEC-11-HMFA-D - which is not online, in fact no MM11-F stuff is online, I'll have to scan it all and send it to Al); I was looking in that to see if the parity version had a CSR or not (to reply to Paul Koning), and on the subject of parity it said this: "The data bits on the bus are called BUS DPB0 and BUS DPB1." And there is nothing else on how the two parity bits are _used_ - the clear implication is that the memory just _stores_ them, and hands them to someone else (the master) over the bus, for actual use. Looking further, I found proof in the "unibus interface manual" - and moreover, the details differ between the first (DEC-11-HIAA-D) and second (DEC-11-HIAB-D) editions (both of which differ from the above)! In the first, Table 2-1 has these entries for PA and PB: "Parity Available - PA ... Indicates paritied data" and "Parity Bit - PB ... Transmits parity bit"; at the bottom of page 2-4 we find "PA indicates that the data being transferred is to use parity, and PB transmits the parity bit. Neither line is used by the KA11 processor." (Which explains why, when, after reading about parity in the MM11-F manual, I went looking for parity stuff in the KA11 which would use it, I couldn't find it!) In the second, Table 2-1 has these entries for PA and PB: "Parity Bit Low - PA ... Transmits parity bit, low byte" and "Parity Bit High - PB ... Transmits parity bit, high byte"; at the top of page 2-5 we find wholly different text >from the above, including "These lines are used by the MP11 Parity Option in conjunction with parity memories such as the MM11-FP." I looked online for more about the MP11, but could find nothing. I wonder if any were made? This later version seems to agree with that Appendix E. I tried to find an early -11/45 system manual, to see if it originally shipped with MM11-F's, but couldn't locate one - does anyone have one? The ones online (e.g. EK-1145-OP-001) are much later. It's also interesting to speculate about _why_ these changes were made; I can think of several! :-) Noel

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UK: TRS-80 Model 100 Assembler/Debugger & Remote Disk cassettes/manuals in bookcase covers

by msw＠hecnet.eu

I have these two in unused condition (the paper inside is a little yellowed but apart from that looks new) including cassettes. Cat no: 26-3839 & 26-3823 Ten pound including postage as paypal gift - not asking a lot as I'd rather someone had them and saved them from the tip. Regards, Mark.

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HP 12042B Serial Interface board

by jesse＠cypress-tech.com

Looking to track down an old HP 1000 series A900, A700, A600, A400 board. Its a 12042B Serial Interface board aka 5061-4941 or 5061-4919. If anyone has one that they want to part with, feel free to contact me. Thanks Jesse Dougherty Cypress Technology, Inc. Re-Sellers of HP hardware jesse (at) Cypress-tech.com

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VXT2000+

by bill.gunshannon＠hotmail.com

Bummer time.... I turned on my VXT2000+ today and after about 5 minutes there was a "pop" and a small puff of smoke from the power supply. No smell like you get from a selenium diode or other semiconductor. Now, the fan tries to run but only twitches and the led blinks slowly. No obvious blown part visible. Does anyone have a service manual for the H7109-B Power Supply? I would really like to fix this but I can't see paying $150-$250 for a replacement. (Actually, if I had that kind of money I would, but I don't!) bill

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DEC Rainbow / Pro video on VGA monitors?

by marvin＠west.net

> I'm trying to find a way to get my DEC Rainbow's monochrome output onto a > newer monitor than my aging VR201 (especially since I zapped something in > it and my diagnostic efforts to date haven't fixed it). I can't remember the video output on the Rainbow, but I wanted to do something similar to have one setup for the S-100 machines. After looking on eBay (before I banned them from my use), I found a device that basically had RCA audio/video inputs with a VGA output. It also had the advantage of having an analog TV tuner built in so I could also use things like the old video games that had the Channel 3/4 output. The device is buried somewhere so I can't tell you the brand.

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PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Fritz Mueller > The most efficient way I think would be to work up a simple LDA loader > that would fit in a boot sector, and load a diagnostic from contiguous > disk starting at the second sector. It would then be easy to blast down > just the boot sector and a single desired diagnostic Yup, an .LDA loader wouldn't be hard. > The good news is that my enhanced diagnostics now detect failures in > the same physical banks and with the same bits Excellent! I imagine you're busy with a soldering iron at this moment? :-) Once those are fixed, it will be interesting to see if the problems you saw with the OS's go away. It'd be easy to hack V6 to turn on parity error detection, if you'd like to. > Will have to see after I make the next round of repairs if there are > still additional problems that the MAINDEC flags that my simplistic diag > isn't shaking out. It will be interesting to hear those results... > I've also been somewhat surprised by the level of repair needed on this > memory board. So far, I've seen 6 failed 4116 out of an array of 144 > total, so about a 4% failure rate. Is this typical for vintage 4116 I don't know about 4116's, but I've seen a fairly high failure rate on _some_ cards with 256K DRAM's - on one board, a couple of chips totally dead, some others with just _some_ bad bits. Other cards were totally fine. I suspect it depends on the chip manufacturer. > Might be just a fastbus thing? Could be - I'm not too familiar with the Fastbu. > It's also hinted in paragraph 7.7.7 of the older KB11-A maintenance > manual .. This particular text is removed from the later KB11-A,D > maintenance manual, and the description there seems to imply all reported > parity conditions trap directly to 114. Ah... Looking at the "pdp-11/45 processsor handbook", 1972 and 1973 editions, there's an "Appendix E: Memory Parity" (of which I was previously unaware!), referred to in "2.5.6 Memory Parity". (I haven't checked to see if later ones have it.) It claims there are "16 memory status registers ... each one associated with an 8K section of memory". (It doesn't say whether UNIBUS memory, Fastbus, or both!) One bit in each register claims to be 'Halt Enable': "[when] set, the machine will execute a halt if a parity error occurs"; when clear, it traps to 4! Even better, it claims to be able to control whether the memory uses odd or even parity! (How, for UNIBUS memory, I don't know - there's no way to do this over the UNIBUS. And the MM11-L and MM11-U manuals indicate they both use odd parity, although there's a CSR bit to allow wriring 'wrong' - i.e. even - parity.) Very odd. Maybe this was deleted in the hardware (or they decided not to do it), and someone forgot to follow through in the manual? I recently found another reference to a /45 CPU feature I'd never heard of - forget what it was, alas! > surprisingly, neither one of my M8106 has either a jumper or the > indicated pull-up at that location! .... The fact that W1 exists on the > M8119 is interesting; maybe the situation is that the prints are for > later revisions, and my actual M8106 are earlier? Could be. I wonder if there's any way to get ahold of the ECO list for that card? Noel

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Handful of SUN SCSI cables

by msw＠hecnet.eu

Anyone in the UK want a handful of Sun SCSI cables. Six cables of various lengths with various combinations of narrow, wide and ultrawide connectors including the tiny SCSI connectors. 5 quid as a paypal friend will cover postage. Regards, Mark.

7 years, 1 month

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WTB: Looking for several Intel manuals

by systems.glitch＠gmail.com

All, I'm looking for hardcopy of: * Intel MCS-80 System Design Kit User's Guide * Intel MCS-8 Manual (8008) * Intel PROMPT-48 Microcomputer User's Manual I've got PDFs of these, but I like original dead tree format when I can find it. Thanks, Jonathan

7 years, 1 month

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PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Paul Koning > It checks if the bits 007750 are active in the parity CSR, if so it > takes that to be an address/ECC parity CSR. That's odd; those are the 'error address' bits. Maybe there's an assumption that the sweep of memory to size it will have caused a parity error from garbage in DRAM at startup? (If so, I wonder if it would work on a machine with all core? :-) > It figures out the CSR to memory association by going through memory in > 1 kW increments ... This should set bad parity, and it scans all the > CSRs to see which one reports an error ... If no CSR has that set, it > concludes the particular block is no-parity memory. Oooh, pretty clever - good workaround for rhe undefined relationship between CSR's and memory. If I added parity support to V6, I'd be tempted to do it with a hand-configured table - devices are all manually configured anyway in V6, so I'd be continuing a theme... :-) Noel

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3850 media

by cctalk＠ibmjunkman.com

Original lister has relisted the item https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3850-media-cartridge-1970s-vintage/123603101597 And now one shows up in the UK. Same photos and description. Very strange. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113564749573 I have asked why his listing is identical to the other one. :-)

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3850 media

by donald＠donaldwhittemore.com

2nd seller indicates he is the first seller. Just selling on UK eBay. Don?t think you need different IDs to do that but what the hey. Whatever floats your boat.

7 years, 1 month

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Houston stash

by oldthingswantednow＠gmail.com

It did happen, but I had to leave before they got to the 2nd shed, and I was not able to upload anything onsite. Please see https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=20593&e=1&view=unread#unread and https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Kw9caNwgBhlP-FMfQo9jsuTMeE2n0vd8?us…

7 years, 1 month

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Xerox Star emulator (Darkstar) released today

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Hi All -- Thought you folks might be interested -- I've been working on a Xerox Star emulator at LCM+L on and off over the past year and I've finally unleashed it upon the world.? It's called Darkstar, it's open source and it runs all the Star software I'm aware of.? The Ethernet interface is still mostly untested, however. You can grab the emulator and its source code on our GitHub site here:https://github.com/livingcomputermuseum/Darkstar.? Disk images are available on Bitsavers as always.? Thanks to Al for providing a lot of assistance on this project. Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. Thanks! Josh

7 years, 1 month

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VCF PNW 2019: Exhibitors (still) needed!

by mbbrutman＠brutman.com

This is not quite last call, but it is getting close ... We have 16 exhibits so far and we need a few more to make the show work. (20 would be nice, 25 would be ideal.) The event is March 23-24th in Seattle. Soon I'm going to start working on the exhibit floor plan, set the event schedule, and start to do the prep work that makes the show possible. But I need to know who is participating before I get too deep into that. If you know you are definitely going to participate then please help me out and formally register. If you have questions or are on the fence then let me know and I'll try to help you decide. Maybe this is not the right year for you, and that's fine ... but if there is something I can help you with let me know. I'm not fussy but if you can exhibit Commodore 8 bitters or Amiga equipment then I really want to talk to you. :-) (We seem to have a gap in the show there. Amazingly, nobody is doing an IBM PC related exhibit either.) A description of the event can be found at http://vcfed.org/vcf-pnw . General information for exhibitors including pictures from last year, a link to the registration form, and a FAQ can be found at http://vcfed.org/wp/vcf-pnw-exhibitor-registration/ . Thanks, Mike mbbrutman at brutman.com or michael at vcfed.org

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PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Fritz Mueller > Worked up some simple standalone diagnostics to map and test all the > memory on my 256K MS11-P. Sure enough, I'm seeing some stuck bits at > various addresses in physical address range 700000-757777. Excellent news. (Sorry I've gone quiet - I got distracted from the analysis effort by trying to finish up the -11/34 ucode transcription effort.) Is it really an MS11-P? Those are EUB memories; I don't recall offhand if they (like the MS11-M) have a jumper to configure them to operate on the UNIBUS. Noel

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How to refurbish plotter pens?

by mattislind＠gmail.com

I am about to get our IBM1627 (rebranded Calcomp 565) going but the pens in the case is quite dry. What is the best method to refurbish those? What is the best solvent to get the old ink out? What ink to refill with? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-rp4vyPPYu1ZjVRbnlyczV4czQ

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Wanted: AT&T System V Release 3.2.{1,2,3} Source Code

by web＠loomcom.com

[Cross-posted from the 3B2 mailing list] Hi folks, I'm in search of source code for AT&T's System V Release 3.2.1, 3.2.2, and/or 3.2.3 for the 3B2. Does this exist? Has anyone ever seen it? Note that I'm not looking for the System V Release 3.2 Source Code Provision for the 3B2 /310 and /400 -- I already have that. It was absolutely invaluable when I was writing my 3B2/400 emulator. The reason I'm so keen on getting access is that I have ROM images from a 3B2/1000, and I'd like to add support for it to my 3B2 emulator. The system board memory map seems a bit different than the /300, /310, and /400. These max out at SVR 3.2. I can't imagine trying to add 3B2/1000 support without the 3.2.x source code. I imagine there's some tape image somewhere that's a delta of files that take you from 3.2 to 3.2.1, 3.2.2 or 3.2.3? -Seth -- Seth Morabito Poulsbo, WA, USA web at loomcom.com

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Free: SGI Indigo R4k (NYC area)

by kyle000＠gmail.com

Hi - I am making some room. I have a two SGI Indigos. One of them is a R4K. The second may be a r3k, but may be a r4k as well (I wont get a chance to check til the evening). Both will have ram/cpu/graphics/sled. If youre local, come and get them. If no takers locally, I will ship for cost of shipping (but I wont get a real chance to do this for a week or 2, if not longer). Ping me if youre interested, thanks.

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cctalk Digest, Vol 52, Issue 18

by iain＠csp-partnership.co.uk

I have used Jorgs kit to get my 11/70 front panel running. There is NO NEED to split the cables - for manual circuit, nor is there in the new ?cap? adaptor board. I *THINK* Jorg has many cables and many panels and the split is a throwback to some earlier work that I saw photos of. My (wire wrapped, no using the new ?cape?) is at http://www.scotnet.co.uk/iain/DEC/1170/ <http://www.scotnet.co.uk/iain/DEC/1170/> Flat 40 pins - no split. I have not had time to document the process of the old or new board. All I can say is that the kit turned a messy job into a fairly quick and easy one. I can strongly recommend the kit to anyone. It took me two nights with the circuit list and a wire-wrap tool to set up the board in the link above. Then an elasped day footering with the test software and scope checking signals etc. With the newer 11/70 add on board I would think it would be a painless evening of work. > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:45:19 -0500 (EST) > From: jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Cc: jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu > Subject: Re: "Plug and Play" adapter for PDP-11/70 panel - BlinkenBone > update > Message-ID: <20190117184519.32C6918C0BE at mercury.lcs.mit.edu> > >> From: Jorg Hoppe > >> Now you can painlessly plug a physical 11/70 panel > > So I'm curious about the flat cables to the -11/70 console, which have been > taken apart into individual conductors. I am wondering why? > > This doesn't seem to have been done because you needed to re-order them (they > turn back into flat cables before they go into the connectors - although > perhaps you cross-connected a pair of wires)? Easier access to individual > signals for debugging? > > Needless to say, if people who want to build one of these also have to do > this, I wouldn't exactly call it 'painless'! :-) > > Noel

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seeking punched-card reader in Boston area

by fedorkow＠mit.edu

Greetings CCtalk, ? Does anyone in the Boston area know of a working 80-column punched-card reader? ? I'm working with a researcher at Harvard who's come across some very interesting election polling data from the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon race, punched onto about 10,000 cards (five boxes).? That's too many for manual transcription, but too few for an industrial-strength solution. ? The cards are in a professionally-managed university archive, so it's not as easy as just throwing them in a shipping box and sending them off to who-knows-where to be read. ? Some of the cards are in binary format, so I'm fine with some ad-hoc Pythonic data massaging, if I can just get the bits read. ? If anyone in the Boston area has a machine they might be able to make available, could you get in touch? ? That's fedorkow at mit.edu ? Thanks! /guy fedorkow

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Boxes ready to send, need address confirmation.

by cclist＠sydex.com

Hi Gene, I have two 35 lb. boxes of magazines ready to go; I just need address confirmation. Thanks, Chuck

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EmuVR & videogames & monitors...

by rtomek＠ceti.pl

Hi there, Those who complained about diminishing stash of 4:3 monitors, soon you will have them all emulated, together with your favourite pdps and standing in vr recreation of your bedroom of the era: [ EmuVR Lets You Play '80s/'90s Videogames--in '80s/'90s Virtual Reality Settings https://www.core77.com//posts/82315/EmuVR-Lets-You-Play-80s90s-Videogames-i… ] "You can even choose to play them on crappy '80s TV sets" Monolith in a bedroom, anybody? -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com **

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EmuVR & videogames & monitors...

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Zane Healy > Paper is an archival medium If you want archival, you really need to go the 'baked clay tablet' approach.. :-) Noel

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EmuVR & videogames & monitors...

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Chuck Guzis > Maybe paper is obsolete and I'm just behind the times. You and me both... :-) Noel

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Telex terminal with keyboard

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://www.recycledgoods.com/ibm-compatible-terminal-with-keyboard-model-2- large-telex-277d-as-is/ Might be too expensive? Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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"Plug and Play" adapter for PDP-11/70 panel - BlinkenBone update

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Jorg Hoppe > Now you can painlessly plug a physical 11/70 panel So I'm curious about the flat cables to the -11/70 console, which have been taken apart into individual conductors. I am wondering why? This doesn't seem to have been done because you needed to re-order them (they turn back into flat cables before they go into the connectors - although perhaps you cross-connected a pair of wires)? Easier access to individual signals for debugging? Needless to say, if people who want to build one of these also have to do this, I wouldn't exactly call it 'painless'! :-) Noel

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Interlan 2010 (QBUS) manual

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Al Kossow > I found the brochure for the board Ah, thanks very much! I had some details (from my old driver), but this discovery of yours answers my open questions (e.g. board format). Noel

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Interlan 2010 (QBUS) manual

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

Does anyone have an Interlan NI2010 (the QBUS version of their Ethernet interface) manual? Bitsavers has the NI1010 (UNIBUS), and I have a driver for the 2010, and between them I can probably figure out the 2010, but the 'real thing' would be superior. Noel

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DEC VR150 CRT Monitor

by dj.taylor4＠comcast.net

I have one of these and would like to get it working correctly, but can't find any info on it from the internet. It has a date code of 1989 and was built in Yokahama Japan, by who I don't know. Does anyone know who DEC had build there CRT monitors back then? Are schematics available? Doug

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Data General Keyboard for D412 or D412+

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://www.recycledgoods.com/data-general-6348-a-terminal-keyboard-for-d-41 2-d412-mechanical-keys/ Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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EDU Magazine (No. 12, Summer 1974)

by dmonnens＠gmail.com

Does anyone here have copies of EDU Magazine by Digital Equipment Corporation? I was unable to find any on Bitsavers. I am specifically looking for No. 12, Summer 1974. -Devin Monnens

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2 vax 4000-300s, 54KHA-AB, storage container and drives

by useddec＠gmail.com

Any interest in anything? Please contact me off list. Thanks, Paul

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Vintage-computing relevant IOBCC entry

by john＠ziaspace.com

> /* You are not expected to understand this. */ > > https://www.ioccc.org/2018/mills/hint.html Unsurprisingly, the original 1984 submission still compiles and runs as expected on a VAX running NetBSD 8 with gcc 5.5.0 :) https://www.ioccc.org/1984/mullender/hint.html John

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"Plug and Play" adapter for PDP-11/70 panel - BlinkenBone update

by j_hoppe＠t-online.de

There's a new adapter board for the BlinkenBone system. Now you can painlessly plug a physical 11/70 panel to the extended SimH running on a BeagleBone. See http://www.retrocmp.com/projects/blinkenbone/physical-pdp-11-70-panels/288-… Entry to far-too-many web pages here: http://retrocmp.com/projects/blinkenbone All in all there are now at least 3 different (but compatible) ways to get a blinking 11/70 with SimH. - Connect a real 11/70 panel http://retrocmp.com/projects/blinkenbone/physical-pdp-11-70-panels - Run the virtual Java panel http://retrocmp.com/projects/blinkenbone/simulated-panels/243-blinkenbone-p… Download &run from github https://github.com/j-hoppe/BlinkenBone/releases - get Oscars Vermeulens PiDP11 http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-11 Is that enough '70 now? Joerg

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PDP 11 repairs in progress

by lyokoboy0＠gmail.com

Hello, ive been reading on the list here for a while. I'm usually in the background not seen much, I figured i would give a status update on my pdp 11/34 system. I have been moving quite often for work over the past couple years, and still have not gotten my machine running since picking it up over 3 years ago. Thankfully I have all of the equipment and peripherals in one place now, and am hoping to get this thing finally running soon. I had picked up an entire truckload of a pdp 11/34 system. Its an 11/34 with a tape drive in a separate rack, 2 rl02 drives and an rl01. Lots of disk packs and terminals. I fought with some power supply troubles at first, but after some part swapping i got the machine to power back up. As of right now, i have a minimal machine that i can key in programs on the front panel. I was able to enter programs through the front panel that would display on the vt100 connected via current loop. Thats pretty much the state of things right now. The system is in a minimal state,most of the cards are removed for troubleshooting. i wanted to test the hardware and see if i can boot to a disk packs. My disk packs appear to be loaded with RSX. I was trying to switch from current loop to rs232, so i can connect the machine to a modern computer with a serial port, and dump diagnostics over the line to test the machine. I have tried wiring up the cable, but am getting intermittent garbage on the terminal. Thats pretty much the hangup at the moment. I hope to over the weekend troubleshoot it further and get this project moving again. There is a lot of local activity here with all the hacker spaces and amateur radio folks, i really want to get it running in some kind of public manner that others can interact with, perhaps some kind of telnet gateway or over ax.25 packet, but thats later down the line once its running. There is also another 11 I am picking up in Georgia in the following week, so i have that drive ahead of me. Not even sure i will get started checking the other system out till the 34 is running. Well, thats about it for the state of things and my progress. Once i get things cleaned up a little better ill post back with some pictures of the current setup. --Devin D.

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Relating to 386 / 486 motherboards wanted

by lyokoboy0＠gmail.com

About a week ago, "drlegendre" posted looking for some 386 and 486 boards. I said i had some, but was quickly overwhelmed with work and have not had time to post back till now. Should anyone else be interested, I'm putting a link to some pictures of what 386 and 486 boards i have. Some have corrosion from battery leaking, i usually clip those off, and use an external battery. If you have a board of interest in the pictures , let me know and i will clean it up and make sure it posts / checks out. I have other boards as well, for pentium, pentium pro, amd k6, 5.25 floppys, drives, etc. Plans are to get a website going with a listing of everything, but for now, if you are looking for an older system , just let me know, and ill get back to you with what i have on hand. https://postimg.cc/gallery/ebkjait6/ --Devin D.

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Obscure IBM trivia T-shirt

by paulkoning＠comcast.net

https://www.zazzle.co.uk/ikf4084i_c_t_shirt-235922162936523884 In the 1970s I got a catalog from a T-shirt company named "Outer products" and this one was in it. I had to look it up in the OS/360 "Messages and Codes" manual. It's a real code, and it fits. I never did try to reproduce it, though. paul

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3850 media

by cctalk＠ibmjunkman.com

I believe someone was looking for these recently. https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3850-media-cartridge-1970s-vintage/123591889131

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Enjoyable blog post about a retro writing tool: the Amstrad NC100

by lproven＠gmail.com

https://tantobieinternettattler.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-amstrad-nc100-port… I have one of these myself -- my piece about it (and some its kin) is here... https://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2011/11/10/portable_writing_tool/ -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lproven at cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lproven at gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ?R (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053

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Test

by oldthingswantednow＠gmail.com

Test. Please ignore. IMG_6213.JPG <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RTwYMqkRo64MD6u0Siam1kA0JqcY4t-g/view?usp=…>

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parts pickup in Orem UT

by shumaker＠att.net

Is there anyone on list in or near Orem UT willing to pick up a couple smallish boxes (Looks like "book cartons" or similar) that the seller is unwilling to ship? Reply off list if interested/willing Steve Shumaker Boulder Creek, CA

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Folder for pics of Houston haul Jan 2019

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Kw9caNwgBhlP-FMfQo9jsuTMeE2n0vd8?usp =sharing I will be posting pics here while we sort. I can update this from my cell phone in the field. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Houston Jan 2019 Want List

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SrVeiZ5uhzZSCf3bV3QCJBQ81Jc0PukDUp79 KnygEf0/edit?usp=sharing Please enter your interests here. We will be able to access it while we are sorting. So far it looks like maybe a dozen people might come. Hooray! Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Looking for SGI Onyx system and/or parts

by kyle000＠gmail.com

Does anyone have any SGI Onyx parts? Any parts. I am trying to resurrect a deskside r10k onyx, and will need parts - right now I am more focused on power and VCAM parts, but again, I am interested in all parts. And if you have a system, I would be interested as well. This is the original onyx, not the onyx2. I have an issue that is power or vcam related. thanks.

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PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> the swappable per-process kernel data does in fact include pre-computed > contents for all the memory management registers, so we'll be able to > see (from the process core dump) where the code and data segments were. Uh, no. The copies there are 'prototypes', later modified for actual use by adding in the actual address in main memory. Still trying to understand how that works - the code (in sureg() in main.c) is kind of obscure. Noel

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Bellmac 8 Tutor on ebay

by couryhouse＠aol.com

Wayne: Yes this is a great reference! ? The yellow manual is the one I had mentioned before along with others is available in the bitsavers link at the bottom of your article link. In addition there is the Bell System Technical Journal article announcing release of the microprocessor listed at the end of your article also.? -Ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Sunday, January 13, 2019 Wayne S <wayne.sudol at hotmail.com> wrote: There this link to "Ferretronix" that seems to have relevant info. http://ferretronix.com/march/sbc/mactutor/ Wayne > On Jan 13, 2019, at 8:35 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > there should be a yellow covered 8x11 manual out there if not.. let me know... > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > On Sunday, January 13, 2019 Jason T via cctalk <silent700 at gmail.com; cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 7:47 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: >> >> If any the? group? gets the? bell mac? we would love? a scan? or? hi? res? photo of that multi? colored? sheet. It? would? look? nice? printed in the? back? of? a? display? of? ? one of these units? here.We? have? 3 of these units as? I remember...? and? actually? when I? get my hands around them one? will be? up? for? grabs. Please? advise? ------Ed# SMECC > > Seconded - I have one of these boards (without the fancy case) but I > have zero docs for it, save for what little is online.? The auction > seemed to have a few booklets, as well as the poster. > > j

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Bellmac 8 Tutor on ebay

by couryhouse＠aol.com

If any the? group? gets the? bell mac? we would love? a scan? or? hi? res? photo of that multi? colored? sheet. It? would? look? nice? printed in the? back? of? a? display? of? ? one of these units? here.We? have? ?3 of these units as? I remember...? and? actually? ?when I? get my hands around them one? will be? up? for? grabs. Please? advise? ?------Ed# SMECC?

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Bellmac 8 Tutor on ebay

by couryhouse＠aol.com

also if you have an IEEE library access I get a number of hits of other articles mentioning mac 8. thanks .. ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Sunday, January 13, 2019 Glen Slick via cctalk <glen.slick at gmail.com; cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: Sold to someone out there for $358 Is there an archive of The Western Electric Engineer journal online anywhere? In the July 1977, Volume 21, Number 3 issue there is a 7 page article "MAC-8: A Microprocessor for Telecommunication Applications", by Herbert H. Winfield".? which provides a good architectural overview of the MAC-8 for those that are interested. Several years ago I found that the University of Minnesota Libraries had that issue in their collection and they were able to provide a photocopy on request for a minimal charge to cover processing and copyright expenses. From a quick glance at their website now it's not obvious if they still provide that service, and still have that journal in their collection.

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Bellmac 8 Tutor on ebay

by couryhouse＠aol.com

is there anything in bstj? if so they are at archive.org.?? ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Sunday, January 13, 2019 Glen Slick via cctalk <glen.slick at gmail.com; cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: Sold to someone out there for $358 Is there an archive of The Western Electric Engineer journal online anywhere? In the July 1977, Volume 21, Number 3 issue there is a 7 page article "MAC-8: A Microprocessor for Telecommunication Applications", by Herbert H. Winfield".? which provides a good architectural overview of the MAC-8 for those that are interested. Several years ago I found that the University of Minnesota Libraries had that issue in their collection and they were able to provide a photocopy on request for a minimal charge to cover processing and copyright expenses. From a quick glance at their website now it's not obvious if they still provide that service, and still have that journal in their collection.

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ELTRAN THE COMPILER ANY DOCS? (NOT THE SEMICONDUCTOR STUFF!)))

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

>ELTRAN THE COMPILER >ANY DOCS? ANY ONE? USED IT? >(NOT THE SEMICONDUCTOR STUFF!)) > >ED# Hey ed, you might want to check your Caps Lock key there, bud. ;)

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ELTRAN THE COMPILER ANY DOCS? (NOT THE SEMICONDUCTOR STUFF!)))

by couryhouse＠aol.com

sometimea it starts out locked and when it is hard to type. I just finish it in uppers .? -ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Sunday, January 13, 2019 geneb via cctalk <geneb at deltasoft.com; cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2019, Peter Cetinski via cctalk wrote: > >> On Jan 13, 2019, at 1:32 PM, John Ball via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: >> >>> ELTRAN THE COMPILER >>> ANY DOCS? ANY ONE? USED IT? >>> (NOT THE SEMICONDUCTOR STUFF!)) >>> >>> ED# >> >> Hey ed, you might want to check your Caps Lock key there, bud. ;) > > Maybe he?s using a TRS-80 without the lowercase enhancement? :) ...running WordSalad 1.01(beta). g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby.? Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

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wanted TO BUy any and all XSCRIBE KEY BOARD AND COMPUTER closed caption related & Steno typer key board related ... docs... parts.. units building up an working analog CC demo chain for display in our Deaf and Hard of Hearing assisting tech area.

by couryhouse＠aol.com

Yes, Fred there is,a lot of differnt facts to cc history...? an odd one was when CBS wanted the own? system not compliant with line 21... that attempt touched off demonstrations in the street and more... we have some great pic of the event.? ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Sunday, January 13, 2019 Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote: You could also do small sub-exhibits: on how closed captioning works (2 ASCII characters in line 21 of vertical retrace) history of federal actions difference between subtitles, CC, SDH: "He is in a meeting" "He can see you now" "Oh, I'm sorry, he seems to have stepped out" V Mozart horn concerto in E flat "He is in a meeting" [toilet flushes] "He can see you now" [gunshot] [door slams] [tires squeal] "Oh, I'm sorry, he seems to have stepped out" content of .SRT file Sub-ripper how to add an .SRT file to an MP4 (Handbrake, VLC output, etc.) On Sat, 12 Jan 2019, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > wanted any and all XSCRIBE closed caption related and steno typer key board? related ... docs... parts.. units building up an? working analog CC? demo chain for display in our Deaf and Hard of Hearing assisting tech area.? will consider othe brand gear to if even just for static display too.... > Interested in ad materials photos, war stories. etc etc? > ? thanks. Ed Sharpe

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DiscFerret found a new home.

by fjkraan＠xs4all.nl

Hi Everyone, The DiscFerret found a new home. I did get some questions on its usefulness, which I would address here. Indeed the software developed for it is limited to a driver and some analytical tools. But it uses the same format for flux-intervals as the CatWeasel, at different (higher) clock rates. So any open source CatWeasel program is easy to adapt to the DiscFerret. Using the provided MagPie dump program I managed to adapted Tim Mann's cw2dmk program for the CatWeasel to dfi-files (https://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/comp/divcomp/discferret/). Of course this only does FM, MFM and variants (DEC and Intel), but demonstrate its usefulness for archiving. It is too bad production stopped and the writing image software never materialized. BTW, reading floppy disk rate flux-changes can reliably be read with modern ~100 MHz micro-controller. Several are commercial available. AFAIK not open source. Greetings, Fred Jan

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wanted TO BUy any and all XSCRIBE KEY BOARD AND COMPUTER closed caption related & Steno typer key board related ... docs... parts.. units building up an working analog CC demo chain for display in our Deaf and Hard of Hearing assisting tech area.

by couryhouse＠aol.com

wanted any and all XSCRIBE closed caption related and steno typer key board? related ... docs... parts.. units building up an? working analog CC? demo chain for display in our Deaf and Hard of Hearing assisting tech area.? will consider othe brand gear to if even just for static display too.... Interested in ad materials photos, war stories. etc etc? ? thanks. Ed Sharpe

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Bogus "account hacked" message

by hollandia＠ccountry.net

One of this list's members gave me a URL for handling these emails. Through that URL was found the following, to which those emails can be forwarded. https://isc.sans.edu/contact.html Thanks, Kurt () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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PDP-11 Memory

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Allison Parent > Most Probable cause is interrupt grant is broken. The only -11 that complains if the grant chain is broken that I know of is the /34 (maybe the /04 too). I certainly have a QBUS chassis right next to my workstation here that i) has a bunch of empty slots, and ii) works fine, as long as there are no empty slots between the CPU and the devices. Also, IIRC he said it works with 3 cards plugged in, but not 4; how can plugging a card _in_ cause grant problems? > For most microspheres backplanes the first three slots are different > than remaining. That might be worth checking into. I'm not familiar with the second box he's using, so can't help there. Noel

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HP HP HP !! PING THE CURATOR AT HPMUSEUM IN OZ ED SHARPE TRYING TO REACH U MAKESURE AOL GOES THRU

by couryhouse＠aol.com

THANKS? DAVID? WILL? USE? YOUR? DIRECT NAME? EMAIL BOX.SHOUTING?? NO...? ?THE FONT IS IN CLASSIC HP 2752A AND HP? 2754B ?TELEPRINTER?EMULATION.?(GRIN!) THANKS ED SHARPE ARCHIVIST?FOR SMECC In a message dated 1/12/2019 4:26:52 PM US Mountain Standard Time, davidkcollins2 at gmail.com writes: Hi Ed...? I?m actually in London right now but going back to Melbourne on Monday morning. Internet connection very bad where I am staying so haven?t had a chance to check on what I have but if it?s on the list and you have it scanned please send and I?ll put it up on the site. Thanks (and I can hear you without shouting :-)) David Collins +61 424 785 131 > On 12 Jan 2019, at 10:22 pm, ED SHARPE via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > HP CURATOR - -HOWDY? HAVE? SOME? MANUALS? WE ARE SCANNING? PRE-7900 DISC? SYSTEM!? ? U NEED? AS? U? SAY? DO NOT? HAVE > > YOUR MOST HELPFUL 150 INFO CAME? TROUGH? ? FROM A? PUBLIC? REQUEST? HERE(THANK? YOU THANK? YOU!!!!!)? BUT SUSPECTED? THE? AOL BOX? NOT? GOOD? GOING TO? YOU? DIRECT ..? HELP?? ? ? ED SHARPE

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HP HP HP !! PING THE CURATOR AT HPMUSEUM IN OZ ED SHARPE TRYING TO REACH U MAKESURE AOL GOES THRU

by couryhouse＠aol.com

HP CURATOR - -HOWDY? HAVE? ?SOME? MANUALS? ?WE ARE SCANNING? ?PRE-7900 DISC? SYSTEM!? ? U NEED? AS? ?U? SAY? DO NOT? HAVE? YOUR MOST HELPFUL 150 INFO CAME? TROUGH? ? FROM A? PUBLIC? REQUEST? HERE(THANK? YOU THANK? YOU!!!!!)? BUT SUSPECTED? THE? ?AOL BOX? NOT? GOOD? GOING TO? YOU? DIRECT ..? HELP?? ? ? ED SHARPE

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HP OK! hello world

by couryhouse＠aol.com

hello world! (? LARGE? PRIOR? BROADCAST? BUT? ONLY? WAY TO GET IT? TO? OZ ) In a message dated 1/12/2019 3:25:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, tdk.knight at gmail.com writes: but u didnt say hello world

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IBM in TX

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xwq1JKaMPVXLXJwhocWf9qTogANG2iye This is the pic I was sent. Original msg should have said PS/1 and PS/2. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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PDP-11 Memory

by bill.gunshannon＠hotmail.com

Well, I have decided to stop playing with my hardware for a while and get back to playing with software. :-) In order to do this I am building three (maybe four) PDP-11's. I have an 11/93, an 11/73 and an 11/23+ (and maybe another 11/23 or 11/73). BUt, I have run into a small problem. Memory. (both the systems and me!) My 11/93 has 2 meg internal and I would like to bring it up to 4 meg. The others I would like to see with 4 meg if possible. (except the last one which I may deliberately keep at 128KW.) I have a number of different memory modules. Mostly DEC but a couple third party. Here's the problem. None of them are reflected in any of the documentation I have been able to find so I can't configure them away >from their defaults! Here's a list of numbers: M7551-AC - All the docs I can find seem to refer to AA or AB and jumpers and switches are not in the same locations. M8067-LB M8067-LF M8067-LJ - Same problem. I can find no documentation for any -L boards and these don't even resemble the pictures I find. And then I have two non-DEC module that are unlikely to have any documentation still floating around for. Camintonn CMV-1000 -- As funny as it sounds, this one looks more like a DEC MSV11-QA then the DEC ones do, but not exactly. And one who's maker is only identified by a logo that looks like 2 interlaced stylized S's. Model Number is: 980110014-201 Rev E. Anybody got any pointers to help me configure some of this stuff? bill

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Bellmac 8 Tutor on ebay

by couryhouse＠aol.com

(OK I TRY THIS AGAIN!) THIS BELL MAC? ?YOU? SHOW? IS VERY? SCARCE ACTUALLY! IT IS REALLY GREAT?THAT??IT? HAS A MANUAL AND? LIGHTS? UP! In a message dated 1/11/2019 8:48:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: VERY? SCARE ACTUALLY. AND? GREAT IT? HAS A MANUAL AND? LIGHTS? UP In a message dated 1/11/2019 8:12:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:I stumbled on this on ebay:https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-Laboratories-MAC-8-Processor-Tutor-1977-… someone here might be interested.? I have no affiliation.Will"He may look dumb but that's just a disguise."? -- Charlie Daniels "The names of global variables should start with? ? // "? --?https://isocpp.org

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Bellmac 8 Tutor on ebay

by couryhouse＠aol.com

VERY? SCARE ACTUALLY. AND? GREAT IT? HAS A MANUAL AND? LIGHTS? UP In a message dated 1/11/2019 8:12:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: I stumbled on this on ebay:https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-Laboratories-MAC-8-Processor-Tutor-1977-… someone here might be interested.? I have no affiliation.Will "He may look dumb but that's just a disguise."? -- Charlie Daniels "The names of global variables should start with? ? // "? --?https://isocpp.org

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Bellmac 8 Tutor on ebay

by wrcooke＠wrcooke.net

I stumbled on this on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-Laboratories-MAC-8-Processor-Tutor-1977-vinta… Thought someone here might be interested. I have no affiliation. Will "He may look dumb but that's just a disguise."? -- Charlie Daniels "The names of global variables should start with? ? // "? --?https://isocpp.org

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Who is in Houston?

by sales＠elecplus.com

2 storage sheds were bought at auction. Includes mainframes, terminals, dot matrix printers, monitors, PS/2 and PS/2 machines, etc. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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warped RK05 pack -- lost cause?

by fritzm＠fritzm.org

So, one of the things I have along with my 11/45 is an RK05 alignment cartridge. Unfortunately, its seems warped -- rides up an down a few millimeters in each direction as you turn it in an RK05 drive. :-( Is there any hope for bending one of these platters back more into true (maybe using a rig like they do with bicycle rims, etc?). Or is it just basically junk at this point? I wouldn't really care, but it's an alignment cartridge and there can't still be too many of these still around out there... So it sort of sux to just write it off. I'm assuming that if I had to release the media >from the hub in order to true it, its value as an alignment cartridge would be lost anyway. --FritzM.

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PDP-11 Memory

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Bill Gunshannon > I have a number of different memory modules. Mostly DEC but a couple > zthird party. Here's the problem. None of them are reflected in any of > the documentation I have been able to find so I can't configure them > away from their defaults! ... > Anybody got any pointers to help me configure some of this stuff? > M7551-AC - All the docs I can find seem to refer to > AA or AB and jumpers and switches are not > in the same locations. You've looked in EK-MSV1Q-UG-002, right? That seems to cover a couple of different revisions. > M8067-LB > M8067-LF > M8067-LJ - Same problem. I can find no documentation for any -L > boards and these don't even resemble the pictures I find. The M8067-L variants are all MSV11-PL (512-Kbyte QBUS MOS memory). The last letter usually indicates the vendor of the MOS chips used. > And then I have two non-DEC module that are unlikely to > have any documentation still floating around for. > Camintonn CMV-1000 I too couldn't find any documentatin for this; there is the 'SMS 1000 Microcomputer System OEM Manual', which says how to configure one for a base configuration. I started to work out what the configuration switches do, by experiment, but I got distracted before I finished. I have found my notes >from this exercise, and can send them to you if they are of any use. Noel

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IBM in TX

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Fritz Mueller > They'd nicely compliment or house those new QSIC indicator panels > you've been working up, huh? :-) Complement. I already have a large stack of empty bezels, acquired to hold the indicator panels... :-) Although Dave Bridgham has been playing with the CNC mill at his local makespace (he's already turned out a bunch of light shields for me), and he now has a prototype of a thing which combines the bezel and light shield. So maybe the empty bezels will instead get paired with blank sheets to make a stack of 1/2-width blank panels. Someone still makes that 'pebbled' sheet like what DEC used in blank panels, but we haven't acquired any yet to see just how close a match it is. (Anyone happen to know?) Noel

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IBM in TX

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Fritz Mueller > I think I see an H960 with a couple DEC half panels stuck on it peeking > out of the very back there... Two H960's, actually - it looks like there's another one in front of that one. If the half panels are for sale, I'll take them! :-) Noel

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IBM in TX

by couryhouse＠aol.com

thank God? ?for? Hoarders!? ?what a? ?stash! In a message dated 1/11/2019 10:49:45 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xwq1JKaMPVXLXJwhocWf9qTogANG2iye This is the pic I was sent. Original msg should have said PS/1 and PS/2. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus

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Interest in a DiscFerret?

by fjkraan＠xs4all.nl

Hi Everyone, Is there any interest in a DiscFerret in good working order? If so contact me off-list. I don't have a plan yet for the case interest is >1. Fred Jan

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Netronics EX85 BASIC dump

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

Wondering if anyone has any EPROM dumps of Netronics' BASIC for the Explorer/85. I'd like to set up my own EX/85 for that but also have this little Atlantis 8085 board that I was hoping to experiment with. I've looked all over the interwebs and have had no luck finding a dump, although I have found reference to people dumping them for backup purposes. Many thanks! Brad

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Subject: Data General Eclipse microcode manual

by evanlinwood＠hotmail.com

Hi Peter, Bitsavers has an example for each of 16 & 32 bit Eclipse: http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dg/eclipse/014-000050-00_Eclipse_WCS_microPgmg_Nov… http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dg/mv10000/014-701003_MV10000_microgramming_May83.… Did you work in this area much yourself? Rgds Evan

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Large group of later DEC board on eBay

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

Not my thing (I'm into earlier stuff): https://www.ebay.com/itm/392212420626? but I thought I'd post it since it's filed in an unusual place. Noel

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warped RK05 pack -- lost cause?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Fritz Mueller fritzm at fritzm.org > I'm assuming that if I had to release the media from the hub in order > to true it, its value as an alignment cartridge would be lost anyway. Yes and no.... The RK05 alignment pack is mostly to make sure that the fine lateral track adjustment is correct (i.e. that when the head thinks it's over track 0, it's _really_ over track 0). However, there's also rotational alignment (i.e. start of sector), which is done with the slits in the ring on the pack (so yes, releasing the media from the hub in an ordinary pack will make that pack unreadable - at least until it's reformatted). There is an index/sector timing adjustment procedure, and it uses the alignment pack too, but this rarely needs to be done. Still, if the platter is on wrong, the whole thing's useless anyway. So as long as the platter goes back exactly concentric (and I'm unsure of how the mechanical alignment works, there may be something to assure there's no runout), it should still be usable for the head alignment. (To use it for sector alignment, you'd have to ensure that the drive is aligned for this before-hand, then use it to align the pack.) But check the RK05 Maintenance Manual (EK-RK5JF-MM-001), and see if there's anything I missed. There's also an 'RK05 Subsystem Maintence Course' document (EY-D2055-WB-001) which might contain some useful info. Off to look at the V6 MMU setup code! ;-) Noel

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OT RE: Bogus "account hacked" message

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

-----Original Message----- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of John Foust via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 6:33 AM To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Bogus "account hacked" message At 08:56 PM 1/8/2019, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: >I currently have 9000-some blocked IPs in hosts.deny, I wonder how much that slows down my store. Ugh, the stuff we are forced to go through. Now you've increased your chances by 9000x that someday someone will complain that they can't reach your site. You said "botnet" right? - John

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Documentation for Xebec Owl (a 1984 SASI-disk-drive)

by martin＠shackspace.de

Anyone here, owning a Xebec Owl and/or its documentation? The Owl is a SASI-disk-drive from 1984. One could say that it's mostly a Xebec S1410A mounted on a drive, thus eliminating the ST-506-interface. The one I had my hands on seems to be a late version, called the Owl II (20MB instead of 10MB). It shiped with a PC-SASI-controller for the 8-bit-ISA-bus (TTL) and 4KB Boot-ROM (in a 2764-EPROM). The firmware of the Owl II itself seems to be more advanced and bigger than that of the well-known Xebec-bridge-boards: The Owl has 16KB (27128) of firmware, compared to the 4/8KB (2732/64) of a S1410/10A/20. A lot of its commands are explained in the documentation of the S1420 controller, but it seems there are some commands missing, e.g. the command 0x0C. The drive is not compatible with later SCSI equippment. The owner reported, he did not manage to run it with a "modern" PC-SCSI-Controller and I'm not surprised about this: Some commands and codes are incompatible to SCSI/CCS, so the SENSE codes. There is also a command collision with the INQUIRY command, uhhhh :( Does someone own the/some/any documentation for the Owl? It doesn't seem there's much more out there than this brochure: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/xebec/brochures/Xebec_Owl_Datasheet_198410xx.p… --map

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Bogus "account hacked" message

by seefriek＠gmail.com

FWIW, I use a password manager (Keepass/Keepass2, tho there are other good ones). It's another step or two in my workflow, but let's me have a unique, very strong password for everything I log into. Greatly reduces the impact of password dump attacks.

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IBM APL/PC unofficial patch for memory >512KB

by bear＠typewritten.org

IBM's APL/PC v1.0 crashes if you try to run it on a PC with more than 512 KB RAM. I learned today that there was a patch published to make it work on systems with 640 KB. Of course, I can't seem to find any trace of it. Anyone save a copy or know where it might be found today? ok bear. -- until further notice

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RL02 packs FTGH in 01057

by wilson＠dbit.com

So I'm consolidating my storage and finding I have a lot of surplus stuff. For starters, I have a few too many RL02K-DCs (also a few RL01K-DCs and a couple of 12-sector RK05 packs): http://www.dbit.com/wilson/RL02K-DC.jpg Believed to be good/usable but of course I guarantee nothing. YMMV. YHMC. Located in Monson, MA, 01057, USA. I'll drive anywhere in southern New England to deliver some / a few / all of them, for free. Anything more complicated is OK, at your expense. John Wilson D Bit

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Microcode, which is a no-go for modern designs

by technoid6502＠gmail.com

On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 12:00 -0600, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Re: Microcode, which is a no-go for modern designs I was a tech in the 90's when the original Pentium FDIV bug was storming. The issue was confined to the integrated floating point portion of the processor and was therefore rarely an issue as the vast majority of software did not use the mathco portion of the chip. Only a handful of applications and relative handful of users were affected. This became Intel's position on the matter and they hoped the issue would just die down to those handful whom they would provide new chips. The issue did not die down and the bad press forced the decision to replace ALL pentiums affected. Only a relative few were actually replaced in the home and small business arena. A software patch was a common solution to the problem. It masssaged input to the FDIV instruction to produce a corrected result and worked pretty well as I recall. At the time of the storm, the Pentium was still pretty new and very expensive. Most folks were getting along with AMD k5 and k6 processors. I WAS. I went from k6 to Celeron. Best Jeff

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Old HP stuff

by sales＠elecplus.com

Thanks for all the replies! Based on the responses I got, this is the specific request list that I just emailed him: anything HP 1000 related is interesting. HP 2100, HP 21MX 2113 2117, A-Series A400 A600 A700 A900 A990, etc. are all 21MX/2100-series: HP 12908A Writable Control Store Interface Kit (PCA 12908-60002) HP 12908B Writable Control Store Interface Kit (PCA 12908-60006) HP 12908-60003 Jumper Board Assembly HP 12908-60005 Backplane Jumper Assembly HP 12908-60008 Jumper Board Assembly HP 12978A Writable Control Store (PCA 12978-60006) HP 12978-60006 Jumper Cable Assembly HP 02100-60018 Cable Assembly (need two!) HP 02100-60052 Connector Assembly an HP HIL mouse (so not PS/2), preferably 3-button HP apollo 735/125 power supply part # 0950-2081 (Astec). It comes from a workstation, A2608A or A2841A HP 9000, whether it's the /200, /300, /400, /700, or /800 series The prices I see for this equipment online are stiff! May I assume (and yes, I know what that spells) that you guys are looking for machines in the sub $200 class, not $2000 like some sites have posted? Equipment from the recycler is so much cheaper, but strictly as-is. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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cctalk Digest, Vol 52, Issue 9

by fred＠MISER.MISERNET.NET

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:03:24 +0000 (WET) > From: Peter Coghlan <cctalk at beyondthepale.ie> > Subject: Bogus "account hacked" message > > About two hours ago, I received an email to the address I only use for > cctech/cctalk. > > It claimed my email account had been hacked and threatened all sorts of > dire consequences if I didn't deposit $1000 in bitcoins in some place within > 48 hours. [chop] I enjoyed reading the discussion regarding these bogus emails. I get a one or two per week. Some with no password, and some with a password only used for one particular site with an email address only created for that site. (and the site is no longer around more than likely due to being hacked ... essentially the account I had there was a throwaway). Some of the phishers are getting "smarter" and dropping the "-suffix" I used for the email (which also ends up getting to me ...) Obviously the system(s) they send it to don't have a camera, don't have any web browsing software installed, are text based (Linux and OpenVMS) and I just laugh. However, I do enjoy totally confusing the scammers. I have the extra password configured for the SYSTEM account on my main VMS box. The script kiddies have no idea what to do with a second password prompt (since you don't get a User Authorization Failure until you enter both passwords, good, bad, or indifferent). 34630 failures since last successful login No intrusion records either, as they try once and move on. Long passwords are looooong so I challenge them to guess. If they get in, login DCL does checks and if you don't have the secret sauce ... *plonk* I probably don't have to have extra password set, but I'm paranoid and do it anyway. I've also noticed folks at $work are starting to get these "give me bitcoins because I saw your pr0n" messages as well. Those were some fun discussions. Fred

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