- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by chd＠chdickman.com

Besides PUTR are there any tools for reading and writing to pdp8 OS8 device images? Something with source for Linux maybe?

6 years, 9 months

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DLC Company "Cowculator"

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I took a better picture of the panel for this yesterday http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dlcCompany/cowculator Other than a couple of want-ads from the early 60's I've not been able to turn up any more information on this. I'm assuming you optimize by adjusting the parameters to zero on the meter. Other than what is on the panel, I've not found anything on the DLC Company in Linthicum, Md.

6 years, 9 months

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Damaged LTO tapes

by healyzh＠avanthar.com

Anyone have any experience on how hard it is to damage an LTO tape. I mean damage them to the point they split at the seam. Zane

6 years, 9 months

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UNIVAC 422 material acquisitions updates..

by couryhouse＠aol.com

UNIVAC 422 Training? Computer? material acquisitions updates.. - UNIVAC 422 Training? Computer program Instruction reference cards? ?-? (4 each)- Photograph? of? students? using one? in an educational environment (1 each)- Applications programs description sheets? fro? 2? programs ( 1? each ,? 2? programs)- UNIVAC 422 Partial Maintenance Manual? (1 each)-UNIVAC Card Spares? suitcase -? some dividers-? ?removed? (1 each) The? ?Game is? Afoot! Please? check? your? files? for ANYTHING? related to? the? UNIVAC? 422? or? UDT? Training? computers!? -? ?Ed Sharpe -? ?Archivist? ?for SMECC

6 years, 9 months

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Raised Floors

by mark＠matlockfamily.com

The discussion on raised floors in data centers reminded me of an interesting past experience. My company had installed its first supervisory process control system in an enzyme plant. The plant had been around for quite some time and the process control system was part of a retrofit of the facility. Part of that retrofit was remodeling a room for the PDP-11/44 and the related racks of industrial controllers. There were hundreds of cables carrying various analog and digital signals and control signals under the raised floor that they installed. The only bad thing about the location of the data center was that it was directly under some tanks that were installed on the roof. One tank was for concentrated sulfuric acid which was used to adjust pH in the fermenters. That acid tank was filled from tanker trucks that would come from time to time. One day a trucker who was filling the tank was not paying attention and over filled the roof tank and acid overflowed over onto the roof which should have held the overflow, but it was a flat roof designed to protect from rain not concentrated sulfuric acid. Down in the data center the operator noticed that liquid was flowing down the walls of the room and past the raised floor tiles into the space below. It was easy to confirm it was acid since it was attacking the paint on the wall. The acid pooled under the floor with the cables. That was when they called the research chemists next door. We came in and determined that there were some drains under the floor (it had been a factory room before it was converted) and we suggested that they flush the space under the floor with water to dilute the acid to get as much of it out as possible. Then they used fans to try to dry out the room and the space under the floor. After all this, miraculously everything seemed ok, but about once every 6 weeks or so that PDP-11/44 would develop some issue and the DEC field service guy (it was under contract) would come out and swap a board or two, marveling at how he had never seen boards that were so corroded. In retrospect I?m amazed that 11/44 survived as well as it did. Mark

6 years, 9 months

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9895A Flexible Disc Memory For Sale

by mark＠meba.com

I have an old floppy disk drive by Hewlett-Packard, their 9895A Flexible Disc Memory. We got this from an estate cleanout and I would like to sell it. It has been powered up and one bay door works when the button is pressed and the other doesn't. It is a large, very heavy machine. I have it on ebay for $299 ( <https://www.ebay.com/itm/254242280384> https://www.ebay.com/itm/254242280384) but that was just a shot in the dark. Any reasonable offer considered. Mark mark at meba.com

6 years, 9 months

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UNIVAC 422 material acquisitions updates..

by couryhouse＠aol.com

UNIVAC 422 Training? Computer? material acquisitions updates.. - UNIVAC 422 Training? Computer program Instruction reference cards? ?-? (4 each)- Photograph? of? students? using one? in an educational environment (1 each)- Applications programs description sheets? fro? 2? programs ( 1? each ,? 2? programs)- UNIVAC 422 Partial Maintenance Manual? (1 each)-UNIVAC Card Spares? suitcase -? some dividers-? ?removed? (1 each) The? ?Game is? Afoot! Please? check? your? files? for ANYTHING? related to? the? UNIVAC? 422? or? UDT? Training? computers!? -? ?Ed Sharpe -? ?Archivist? ?for SMECC

6 years, 9 months

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Raised Floors

by cruff＠ruffspot.net

I should have been more clear in my last response. The 2x2 grid of the floor tiles does not extend to the floor, but to an intermediate layer with wider spacing of the supports at the floor level.

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Raised Floors

by cruff＠ruffspot.net

The NCAR Wyoming Supercomputer Center has raised floors of about 20 feet. The auxilary cooling and PDUs are installed down there. Needless to say, you don't pull a floor tile there unless you are on the facility staff!

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FTGH - VAX Datatrieve binders

by toby＠telegraphics.com.au

These four binders are in Toronto, Canada. * VAX DATATRIEVE - User's Guide * VAX DATATRIEVE - Handbook * VAX DATATRIEVE - Reference Manual * VAX DATATRIEVE - Guide to Writing Reports, Guide to Using Graphics, Guide to Programming and Customizing But I don't see on bitsavers -- Can anyone else confirm? I have the ability to ADF scan before recycling. Or can ship to anyone prepared to pay cost. --Toby

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Raised Floors

by cruff＠ruffspot.net

> On May 22, 2019, at 11:00 AM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > From: Grant Taylor <cctalk at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > > On 5/21/19 5:33 PM, Craig Ruff via cctech wrote: >> The NCAR Wyoming Supercomputer Center has raised floors of about 20 feet. > > Did the support posts go all the way down? Or was there some sort of > grid work that supported the raised floor above an open area that > contained the PDUs? It was moderately open below the floor, there are columns that support the grid. I looked, but I don't have a picture in the under floor area when I was up there years ago, and didn't see anything obvious on the NCAR or Wyoming web sites. There is a video at https://www.youtube.com/embed/u4H7U5Weopw <https://www.youtube.com/embed/u4H7U5Weopw> that shows some of the support equipment briefly, but not the underfloor area.

6 years, 9 months

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M7264 Troubleshooting

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> On the LSI-11/2, with the machine stopped, 'run' was off, and the > output on AF1/AH1 was always high (i.e. not asserted). > I don't have any guesses as to what the behaviour of yours is about. Hah! Eureka! I had a brainwave, and decided to look at my machine with the serial console board pulled out! I then get the exact same behaviour on SRUN as you're seeing - a very brief spike every so often (about every 25 usec, here). So I'd be looking pretty hard at your DLV11-E; start by making sure it is configured correctly. Past that, you'll need prints; Manx claims there aren't any online, but there are a set in the jumbo assemblage, ET-LSI-11 (MP00706); the DLV11-E prints are on pp. 31-37. All you have to do to get a nice 'scope loop is to power the machine on; the CPU will dutifully try and read the RCSR, in a fairly tight loop. Probably worth picking up a spare DLV11 of some type for fault localization via board-swapping/etc; DLV11-J's can be found on eBait for not a large sum. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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apollo psa test point adaptor

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

anyone know where i could find manual or drawings on this im up in northern manitoba canada picked it up at a rr auction to experiment with as a audio interface not sure if the jacks on the side are the weird pins nasa had or another standard i can find? https://www.flickr.com/photos/1ajs/albums/72157705166193482

6 years, 9 months

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Pleas ID this IBM system....

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Jos Dreesen > And so the story continues.... > https://ibms360.co.uk/ Wow, what a great recover, and a great site documenting it! Renting temporary local storage was a great idea; it would have been hard to get all that out of there on schedule any other way. (Alas, I don't know any hauliers who can help them get it all back to the UK!) They should have tried to get the raised floor too (I guess it wasn't included in the sale), since i) it'll be useful if they try and get the machine up and running, and ii) it'll probably just get scrapped. Although there may already be raised floor where they're planning to put it. Noel

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HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

by couryhouse＠aol.com

HP-01 calc watch go-withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting? We have a? ?few? ?spare? ?items? ? has? anyone? put? together? a? checklist? of? ?go-withs? Apparently? there? was a? ?series? of? ?picnics and? t-shits? that? came? form those? events. Drop? ? us? a? note? off list --? ?Thanks? Ed# (Fondly? remembering the? days? ?Jerry and? I? would? shake? our? HP-01s? at? each other at? ?3000? meetings...)

6 years, 9 months

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HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

by couryhouse＠aol.com

well the? good? thing? is? Marc? with? turn over in? industrial? facilities? and? updating? tech...? ? what? you? are? looking? for? ?should? come? available at a? reasonable? ?price....? ?yikes? I? am amazed? how? cheaply? ? some of the normal? biological? scopes? ?go? ?for? ?now... we have been offloading? some? of? ours? ?from the? collection as? for? instance? with? a ziess standard? we? have? 3? and? ?really? should? only? have? one as? an? example....? ?they are? ?a partial? price? of? what? ?they would? have? been? 10? years? ago. Let? me? know? how? you? ?do.? looking? ?for? Nomarsk? ?stuff. We? ?do? not? have? any? extra. We? may? have? something? extra in? Nikon? ?with? Francion Yamatto? ?somewhere though, Ed# I? have? not? been? to may? ?auctions at? any of? the industrial? facilities or? auctioneers? ?in? years? to? look? ?for? ?hi? power? ?semiconductor? ?scopes? ?but? that? is? where? they? used to? show? up. In a message dated 5/20/2019 10:36:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time, curiousmarc3 at gmail.com writes: Nomarski microscopy, Ed. Differential phase contrast microscopy. Makes very small height differences (partial wavelength) on mostly planar objects pop out, and creates amazing color effects as a biproduct. Pretty much a stalwart of any good cleanroom microscope. Every manufacturer offers it, usually a pretty expensive option as all your optics have to be stress-free. I dream to own one of these one day. Marc ? From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Reply-To: "COURYHOUSE at aol.com" <couryhouse at aol.com>, "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, May 20, 2019 at 11:20 AM To: "COURYHOUSE at aol.com" <couryhouse at aol.com>, <spacewar at gmail.com>, "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting? should? say ?Francion Yamamotto? ?not ?Yrancion Yamamotto In a message dated 5/20/2019 10:07:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time, couryhouse at aol.com writes: Since? we? have? nice? microscopes at? the museum? project? we? were? hired? to? photo? some IC? innards? years? back. This? ended? up? becoming? a minor obsession? for? a short? time? as? the? artwork under? various? illuminations? is? fantastic.? One of the things? that? seemed? to show the mots? difference in? detail between layers and highs? etc... was? differential? interference contrast? (after? nomorski (sp?) ( this? was on our? Ziess Ultraphot? and? seems? to be? a Zeiss? only? ? offering.0? ?on? the? Japanese? side of? things? Nikon? had? ?Yrancion Yamamotto (sp?)? method? which? seems? ?nice? ? but? I? preferred? the? ?Nomeriski. Using? these? ?methods? you? may be? able? to extract? more usable? detail? ?than? with traditional methods.? ?and? wow? the? color? photos? are? ?frame-able! But? ?kinda? what? I? wanted to mention? to is? depending? on? what? era? ?the chips? were? the? over? coatings? ? seemed? to? worsen? the view? the newer the chip? or? so? I? thought at the? time. Such? great? ?fun? to? photo? ?the? little? ic innards!? ?even? a? standard? ?illum.? ?scope? with the? vertical? episcopic? illumination? gives? ?some? ? fun? photos? too,? especially? on the? earlier? ?chips. Don't? know? if? any? of? ?this? will help on the? HP-01? roms? but? sure? was? fun to talk about? again ed sharpe archivist for? smecc In a message dated 5/20/2019 9:00:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time, spacewar at gmail.com writes: Only just within the last month I finally obtained a ROM dump from a production HP-01, for potential use in my Nonpareil simulator. Previously I only had the preproduction code listed in a US patent. I'm not sure when I'll have time to actually work on the simulation, though. My original plan had been to crack open an HP-01 module and try to read the ROM bits optically, as Peter Monta did for the HP-35. However, that didn't work, probably due to a passivation coating on the ROM dies.

6 years, 9 months

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M7264 Troubleshooting

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Glen Slick > According to the M7270 LSI-11/2 Microcomputer Module User's Guid[e], > it uses BC1, BD1, BE1, BF1 for SCLK3 H, SWMIB18 H, SWMIB19 H, SWMIB20 H. Oh, thanks! I wonder how I missed that, looking at the prints? (The drawings have these nice dark arrowheads to indicate backplane connections.) I just visually blew past it, I guess. BH1 is also used there (for SWMIB21 H); and on the previous page, the STOP L output is on AE1, and MTOE L (whatever that is) can be fed from AK1. Not quite sure how a Q22 memory card causes the problem, electrically, since those lines are inputs on the memory card, so it's an input<->input connection (i.e. voltage sources in TTL), but obviously it does. And I also don't see why Q18 cards are a problem; BDAL16 and 17 are AC1 and AD1 respectively, which I don't see in the 'extra pins' list for the LSI-11/2. Oh well, not too important to track it down. Thanks again for catching my miss! Wow, it's been a loooong time since I worked with an LSI-11 - about 40 years! :-) Noel

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M7264 Troubleshooting

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Mister PDP Well, I verified that the LSI-11/2 should work in a Q22 backplane - in the sense that the only pins it tries to talk to are standard QBUS pins, and AF1/AH1 for SRUN. It doesn't drive BREF, which might cause issues in later QBUS systems. Although it's a different board from the LSI-11, it uses the same CPU chip set, so it should give us some useful comparison data. So after a certain amount of issues (see next), I got my LSI-11/2 working. (It doesn't seem to work with Q18 memory, such as the MSV11-D. Attempts to write 0 to memory from ODT wind up leaving the bits in the high byte set. I have no idea why - anyone have any ideas? With Q22 memory, the symptoms are even stranger; the system hangs with the 'run' light on - even with the HALT switch on! Luckily I had an MMV11, and it worked OK with that.) > I took a picture of the readouts for SRUN Odd. On the LSI-11/2, with the machine stopped, 'run' was off, and the output on AF1/AH1 was always high (i.e. not asserted). I don't have any guesses as to what the behaviour of yours is about. > Checking the BSYNC, it looks like there is life. It oscillates at > 58.605 KHz, and has wider peaks than the SRUN signal. The frequency is not as useful as plain timings - especially for signals which don't have a 50/50 duty cycle. For example, on the -11/2, while in the ODT console CSR read loop (below), BSYNC is asserted for 2.5 usec (which sounds about right for a complete read cycle), then off for 1.0 usec. Also, in the pictures, it's not clear which part of the cycle is asserted (which, on the QBUS, is 0V - i.e. inverted) and which is idle (~3V). Is this the actual bus signal we're seeing, with high being idle, zor on the other side of an inverting receiver? The image shows some timing numbers, but it's not clear that they mean. E.g. above, it says "4.00 usec" - but is that per division, the whole horizontal, what? Below, I see below "17.06 usec", and if that's the rising edge -> next rising edge interval, that sounds like a bus timeout is happening. > This signal does not respond to the Run/Halt switch being toggled, > but I would assume that to be normal Right; while in ODT the CPU is trying to read the console CSR, and so you should see BSYNC cycling. At this point, you might want to look at BRPLY, which will tell us if the console is responding to the read of the CSR. Also, I don't know if your /73 system has a KDJ11-A (dual width card, no onboard console) or a KDJ11-B (quad width card, onboard console); if the former, it might be worth swapping the DLV11 card into that system to see if _it_ is working. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Pleas ID this IBM system....

by couryhouse＠aol.com

I liked? raised? flooring....? ? ?you can? clean the room up? fast? by stashing? stuff in the non critical to airflow? areas!? ----see we? were? lucky? when? comshare? of an arbor? ? division on? phx? ? moved out? ?where? they? designed? IBM channel interfaces? for? xerox sigma 9s We? got their? space next to? us? ?and bought? their? their? flooring? rather? than them? shipping? back? to ann arbor Mich.? to put? our? HP? stuff on. best? thing? ever? did? ?it? kept? things neat, clean and? provided? xtra storage.? In a message dated 5/20/2019 9:11:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: > I guess it would look right for the era, but I'd never build a data center > with raised flooring after my experiences with them.? It's such a pain to > work with compared to a sealed concrete floor and overhead cable trays. But with a raised floor, you can whack the tile puller down in such a way that it makes an enormously loud pop that startles everyone in the datacenter! I cannot imagine difficult it would be to run S/360 era cables in overhead trays. Many are an inch or more in diameter. -- Will -- Will

6 years, 9 months

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Raised Floor => was RE: Pleas ID this IBM system....

by dave.g4ugm＠gmail.com

-----Original Message----- > From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis via > cctalk > Sent: 21 May 2019 22:33 > To: Grant Taylor via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Pleas ID this IBM system.... > > On 5/21/19 1:17 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > > I'm sure that was /a/ problem. But I'm not comfortable attributing > > that problem to the raised floor. > > > > I expect that the same problem would be effected by an elevator that > > doesn't stop perfectly level with the floor, or has too wide a gap > > between the car and the floor, or even on tiled floor. > > > > That really seems to me like it's a sub-optimal design, pushed past > > it's operating parameters by overloading it. > > > > I can't fault the raised floor for that problem. > > No, but it's just one of the anecdotes that go with the terrain, like leaving a > box or two of cards or a stack of tapes or your dinner on top of a 1403N1 > when it ran out of forms.. > > How well sealed were the raised floors? I ask this because i recall an episode > or two where a disk drive would spring a leak and make a beautiful slippery > pool on the floor, just waiting for the next operator to dash by. I always > wondered how much of the stuff made it to the subfloor. > I think the joints were often tight. Otherwise you got drafts or a breeze. Speaking of breezes, we found our plotter ( kept over-heating.) Some one kept closing the floor vent. We eventually found it was the plotter operator who was a young lady with a short skirt. When loading the mag tape with the plots she had to stand over the vent which blew out cold air, So she closed the vent..... ... it took some tact to get this info, and we then moved the tile with the vent and the plotter stayed cool... At another place we had a disk drive drop through a tile. We had had the joiners make some temporary tiles while we were having an upgrade. The ran out of plywood and joined two scraps, but not very well. The rocking of the drive broke the joint and the drive fell through. We were surprised it kept working without a head crash.... > --Chuck Dave

6 years, 9 months

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apollo psa test point adaptor

by carlclaunch51＠gmail.com

On 05/19/2019 09:46 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > There's a switch labeled "IRIG" which stands for Inter Range > Instrumentation Group, and refers to a standard for > telemetry encoding. There is a standard for time code, a > standard for modulating analog signas onto a bunch of FM > carriers, and a standard for multiplexing several analog > signals onto one FM carrier. In this case IRIG stands for Inertial Reference Integrating Gyroscope, one of three inside the Intertial Measurement Unit of the spacecraft. This adapter is used to test the PSA tray (Power Sub Assembly) which had modules such as the Coarse Alignment Amplifiers that were used to drive and measure the gryos (and the accelerometers). It also drives the sextant optics for star sighting in the CM (thus you see the knobs labeled Sxt Shaft and Sxt Trun) Those same circutis would be used with the Rendezvous Radar for the PSA installed in a LM. > Apollo documents are probably VERY hard to come by these days. They are being rapidly and steadily digitized and made available. Many of the PSA schematics are now accessible. The test point adapter itself is not going to be easy to find, but you can find the wiring harness schematics that would tell you what each of your 91 leads in the connector does. Carl

6 years, 9 months

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Things to do in Australia & New Zealand?

by pat＠vax11.net

I'm going to be in Australia and then New Zealand for most of June, and was wondering if there was anything interesting classic computer wise to visit? I'm planning on being in Sydney for the Australia half of the trip, and haven't made many plans for New Zealand yet besides flying in/out of Auckland. Pat

6 years, 9 months

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PDP-11 Rack

by useddec＠gmail.com

Hi Thomas, I tried to call but couldn't reach you. I think I can have it picked up before then, but have a few questions. Thanks, Paul 217 766 7690

6 years, 9 months

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PDP-11 Rack For Sale

by tsraguso＠gmail.com

I have an empty PDP-11 rack that must be gone by Thursday, 5/30. I am asking $90 OBO. I also have a UNIBUS SMD disk controller (asking 150). I will ship the controller, but not the rack. I am located in Houston, TX. Thomas Raguso 832 374-2803

6 years, 9 months

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Available: Wang 370 book

by anders＠abc80.net

Hi, I got a stash of documentation yesterday. Found a book "WANG 370 calculating system, program library volume 1" which I don't have any use for. Looks to be almost unread, it has become a bit yellow and it has a small sticker on the front page. Printed in 1968. Is there anybody that want's it (free pickup in south Sweden or for postage fee)? /Anders

6 years, 9 months

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HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

by couryhouse＠aol.com

OK ?Marc.. guess, ?patent ran out. this was eons ago I was involved initally... ?so thus my dated ?"who had and not ?list"... remember the leitz episcopic.. ? phase contrast? system... ighhh...!, ?have,an otholux set up like that... another fun one is the Wild m20 ?with episcopic... bright field AND darkfield. Marc .. yes... as u said....Nomarski microscopy, is Differential phase contrast microscopy. Makes very small height differences (partial wavelength) on mostly planar objects pop out, and creates amazing color effect.... ?the francon yamotto method seems simular in images,and colors... ? -----Original Message----- From: Curious Marc <curiousmarc3 at gmail.com> To: COURYHOUSE at aol.com <couryhouse at aol.com>; cctalk at classiccmp.org <cctalk at classiccmp.org>; spacewar <spacewar at gmail.com> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 10:36 PM Subject: Re: HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting? #yiv6703816687 #yiv6703816687 -- _filtered #yiv6703816687 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6703816687 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv6703816687 #yiv6703816687 p.yiv6703816687MsoNormal, #yiv6703816687 li.yiv6703816687MsoNormal, #yiv6703816687 div.yiv6703816687MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv6703816687 a:link, #yiv6703816687 span.yiv6703816687MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv6703816687 a:visited, #yiv6703816687 span.yiv6703816687MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv6703816687 p.yiv6703816687msonormal0, #yiv6703816687 li.yiv6703816687msonormal0, #yiv6703816687 div.yiv6703816687msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv6703816687 span.yiv6703816687EmailStyle18 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv6703816687 .yiv6703816687MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv6703816687 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv6703816687 div.yiv6703816687WordSection1 {} #yiv6703816687 Nomarski microscopy, Ed. Differential phase contrast microscopy. Makes very small height differences (partial wavelength) on mostly planar objects pop out, and creates amazing color effects as a biproduct. Pretty much a stalwart of any good cleanroom microscope. Every manufacturer offers it, usually a pretty expensive option as all your optics have to be stress-free. I dream to own one of these one day. Marc ? From: cctalk <cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Reply-To: "COURYHOUSE at aol.com" <couryhouse at aol.com>, "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, May 20, 2019 at 11:20 AM To: "COURYHOUSE at aol.com" <couryhouse at aol.com>, <spacewar at gmail.com>, "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting? ? should? say ?Francion Yamamotto? ?not ?Yrancion Yamamotto? ? ? In a message dated 5/20/2019 10:07:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time, couryhouse at aol.com writes: Since? we? have? nice? microscopes at? the museum? project? we? were? hired? to? photo? some IC? innards? years? back. This? ended? up? becoming? a minor obsession? for? a short? time? as? the? artwork under? various? illuminations? is? fantastic.?? ? ? One of the things? that? seemed? to show the mots? difference in? detail between layers and highs? etc... was? differential? interference contrast? (after? nomorski (sp?) ( this? was on our? Ziess Ultraphot? and? seems? to be? a Zeiss? only? ? offering.0? ?on? the? Japanese? side of? things? Nikon? had? ?Yrancion Yamamotto (sp?)? method? which? seems? ?nice? ? but? I? preferred? the? ?Nomeriski. Using? these? ?methods? you? may be? able? to extract? more usable? detail? ?than? with traditional methods.? ?and? wow? the? color? photos? are? ?frame-able! But? ?kinda? what? I? wanted to mention? to is? depending? on? what? era? ?the chips? were? the? over? coatings? ? seemed? to? worsen? the view? the newer the chip? or? so? I? thought at the? time. ? ? ? Such? great? ?fun? to? photo? ?the? little? ic innards!? ?even? a? standard? ?illum.? ?scope? with the? vertical? episcopic? illumination? gives? ?some? ? fun? photos? too,? especially? on the? earlier? ?chips. ? Don't? know? if? any? of? ?this? will help on the? HP-01? roms? but? sure? was? fun to talk about? again ed sharpe archivist for? smecc ? ? ? ? ? In a message dated 5/20/2019 9:00:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time, spacewar at gmail.com writes: Only just within the last month I finally obtained a ROM dump from a production HP-01, for potential use in my Nonpareil simulator. Previously I only had the preproduction code listed in a US patent. I'm not sure when I'll have time to actually work on the simulation, though. My original plan had been to crack open an HP-01 module and try to read the ROM bits optically, as Peter Monta did for the HP-35. However, that didn't work, probably due to a passivation coating on the ROM dies. ?

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HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

by couryhouse＠aol.com

should? say ?Francion Yamamotto? ?not ?Yrancion Yamamotto? In a message dated 5/20/2019 10:07:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time, couryhouse at aol.com writes: Since? we? have? nice? microscopes at? the museum? project? we? were? hired? to? photo? some IC? innards? years? back. This? ended? up? becoming? a minor obsession? for? a short? time? as? the? artwork under? various? illuminations? is? fantastic.?? One of the things? that? seemed? to show the mots? difference in? detail between layers and highs? etc... was? differential? interference contrast? (after? nomorski (sp?) ( this? was on our? Ziess Ultraphot? and? seems? to be? a Zeiss? only? ? offering.0? ?on? the? Japanese? side of? things? Nikon? had? ?Yrancion Yamamotto (sp?)? method? which? seems? ?nice? ? but? I? preferred? the? ?Nomeriski. Using? these? ?methods? you? may be? able? to extract? more usable? detail? ?than? with traditional methods.? ?and? wow? the? color? photos? are? ?frame-able! But? ?kinda? what? I? wanted to mention? to is? depending? on? what? era? ?the chips? were? the? over? coatings? ? seemed? to? worsen? the view? the newer the chip? or? so? I? thought at the? time. Such? great? ?fun? to? photo? ?the? little? ic innards!? ?even? a? standard? ?illum.? ?scope? with the? vertical? episcopic? illumination? gives? ?some? ? fun? photos? too,? especially? on the? earlier? ?chips. Don't? know? if? any? of? ?this? will help on the? HP-01? roms? but? sure? was? fun to talk about? again ed sharpe archivist for? smecc In a message dated 5/20/2019 9:00:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time, spacewar at gmail.com writes: Only just within the last month I finally obtained a ROM dump from a production HP-01, for potential use in my Nonpareil simulator. Previously I only had the preproduction code listed in a US patent. I'm not sure when I'll have time to actually work on the simulation, though. My original plan had been to crack open an HP-01 module and try to read the ROM bits optically, as Peter Monta did for the HP-35. However, that didn't work, probably due to a passivation coating on the ROM dies.

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Pleas ID this IBM system....

by jos.dreesen＠greenmail.ch

The seller clearly has no idea, but the starting price is right ! https://www.ebay.de/itm/seltene-Anlage-Puma-Computer-IBM-2020/202646831828?… Jos

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Looking for my old ADM-3A

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

I used to have an ADM-3A Dumb Terminal... fixed it up, and made my own lower-case ROM from a 2716 EPROM and a lot of small wires. Sold it around 2005 or so, but can't remember who bought it. Anyway I'd like to buy it back if the current owner is out there and isn't using it :) Thanks Charles --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

6 years, 9 months

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M7264 Troubleshooting

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Mister PDP > After a day of confusing and mixed up signals (I don't really use > this type of equipment very often) .. I switched over to the > oscilloscope Don't feel bad, I too prefer to rely on an oscilloscope by default; not only does it let you see what's really happening (intermediate voltages, noise, etc) but it's simpler, and there are less ways to get incorrent info. > to confirm that the four clock signals on the MCP-1600 chipset were > working properly .. and was able to see that the very basics of the > CPU were working. It's not necessarily good if the 4 clocks (I take it that's what the latter refers to) are working, because if one or more of those were broken, it's a relatively easy/simple fix, whereas if they are working, and the CPU's still not running, it could be a failed CPU chip, and the only fix there is to replace it. > the SRUN signal coming off of the backplane. Note that SRUN isn't crucial to the machine's operation, it's just user info. If SRUN is somehow broken on it's own (i.e. failed component somewhere between where the CPU generates it, and the display LED) finding and fixing that issue won't help. Far more useful, in terms of getting the thing running, would be to know if BSYNC on the QBUS is hopping around (as ODT tries to talk to the console - an easy thing to check into, too). If not, that's a show-stopper that needs to be looked into. > From: Glen Slick > the SRUN L signal is driven on to the backplane bus line AF1. The '78-'78 "microcomputer processors" says (pg. 3-15) that on the LSI-11 it's also on CH1; just to complete the complexity, it also says (pg. 3-32) that on the LSI-11/2 it's also on AH1! > From: Mister PDP > I hooked the oscilloscope up to SRUN off of E68, and found that it > oscillates low at 58.68KHz. .. Hitting the Run/Halt switch does not > have any effect on the period or amplitude of the oscillation. So maybe the CPU is actually running after all? Although turning RUN/HALT to 'HALT' should stop it - the Run light would I think go out when ODT is running. (It certainly does on the /23.) Can you check that BHALT on the QBUS is actually asserted (i.e. 0V) when the switch is in HALT? Noel

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HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

by couryhouse＠aol.com

Since? we? have? nice? microscopes at? the museum? project? we? were? hired? to? photo? some IC? innards? years? back. This? ended? up? becoming? a minor obsession? for? a short? time? as? the? artwork under? various? illuminations? is? fantastic.?? One of the things? that? seemed? to show the mots? difference in? detail between layers and highs? etc... was? differential? interference contrast? (after? nomorski (sp?) ( this? was on our? Ziess Ultraphot? and? seems? to be? a Zeiss? only? ? offering.0? ?on? the? Japanese? side of? things? Nikon? had? ?Yrancion Yamamotto (sp?)? method? which? seems? ?nice? ? but? I? preferred? the? ?Nomeriski. Using? these? ?methods? you? may be? able? to extract? more usable? detail? ?than? with traditional methods.? ?and? wow? the? color? photos? are? ?frame-able! But? ?kinda? what? I? wanted to mention? to is? depending? on? what? era? ?the chips? were? the? over? coatings? ? seemed? to? worsen? the view? the newer the chip? or? so? I? thought at the? time. Such? great? ?fun? to? photo? ?the? little? ic innards!? ?even? a? standard? ?illum.? ?scope? with the? vertical? episcopic? illumination? gives? ?some? ? fun? photos? too,? especially? on the? earlier? ?chips. Don't? know? if? any? of? ?this? will help on the? HP-01? roms? but? sure? was? fun to talk about? again ed sharpe archivist for? smecc In a message dated 5/20/2019 9:00:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time, spacewar at gmail.com writes: Only just within the last month I finally obtained a ROM dump from a production HP-01, for potential use in my Nonpareil simulator. Previously I only had the preproduction code listed in a US patent. I'm not sure when I'll have time to actually work on the simulation, though. My original plan had been to crack open an HP-01 module and try to read the ROM bits optically, as Peter Monta did for the HP-35. However, that didn't work, probably due to a passivation coating on the ROM dies.

6 years, 9 months

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M7264 Troubleshooting

by vintagecomputersmn＠gmail.com

This is a continuation of my post from about a week and a half ago. The weekend I had some free time, so I returned, armed with a oscilloscope and logic analyzer, to try and figure out what is wrong with my H11A. At first, I tried to use the logic analyzer to confirm that the four clock signals on the MCP-1600 chipset were working properly. After a day of confusing and mixed up signals (I don't really use this type of equipment very often), I realized that my logic analyzer was picking up the signals incorrectly. I switched over to the oscilloscope and was able to see that the very basics of the CPU were working. After that, I decided to try and find out why the Run/Halt light was not coming on when I hit the switch. Looking at the H11 schematics, the light relies on the SRUN signal coming off of the backplane. The problem I am currently facing is I cannot find where the CPU board generates the SRUN signal. If anyone who is more experienced that me knows how the M7264 generates the SRUN signal, that would be wonderful. Thank You, Gavin

6 years, 9 months

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VT420 terminal screen

by petermallan＠gmail.com

I have a DEC VT420 terminal which works pretty well. However, I am concerned that sometimes the characters on the screen seem to get torn sideways and jump around a little on a timescale of less than one second. My guess is that there is some issue with the power supply, but that is just a guess. Does anyone have any experience of this and know what I should look at in order to fix it. If it never gets worse, I can live with it, but I fear that one day it will just die. Cheers Peter Allan

6 years, 9 months

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Tape seals?

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Just a reminder: "Tape seal" is a generic name (or defunct trademark?) for the wrap-around plastic tape hanger for half-inch magtape reels. There's a flexible white (soft plastic) or beige (hard plastic) belt with a clamp (sometimes black) and a hanger. They usually had a little place to put a label in them too. They usually came with a new reel of tape but you could also buy them by themselves. 20 years ago I had thousands of 9-tracks hanging from decaying tape seals. Every couple days I would find a couple of tapes dropped to the floor and their tape seal broken. At the time it was no problem to find surplus tapes with recent tape seals to rehang them, and tape seals were still available new. Most of mine came from Southern California where I think the ozone in the atmosphere severely limited useful life of the plastics. Here in 2019 I only have a few dozen tapes and few remaining tape seals. I suspect any source I found of tape seals would be selling 20-year old tape seals. Is there any outfit that sells "new tape seals"? Or a preferred better way to hang tapes in 2019? It wouldn't surprise me if an archivist told me hanging tapes was the wrong way to store them but I never have really noticed (temperature/humidity changes seem to be a way bigger problem than storage orientation). P.S. Yes all these tapes were imaged decades ago. Not really sure why I still have them around unless say I need to boot a PDP-11 or VAX OS from 9-track which I guess hasn't happened in at least a decade for me. Tim N3QE

6 years, 9 months

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HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

by couryhouse＠aol.com

at the? time,? the hp-01 was? discontinued? when i? became a? dealer.? for the? calc/ hppc? ?line.? ? one? is? well? worn? and? ?could? ?be? ?sold/traded? ? the other? ?i? got? as? new? condition? and just? ?wore? to? hp 3000? conferences? etc.? and? will remain? with the museum... Yea? might? ?be? ?fun? to look? for? some of those other? ones? ?you? mention... but the HP? ?one is? ? our? main? ? thing? we? cluster? ad? materials and go withs? around. We? ?do? have a? ?few? ?extra? go withs? and? adverts? etc. to off? at? some? point and? yes,? ?have the? tee shirt? from the? Corvallis? pipnic? (no misspelling) Ed# In a message dated 5/19/2019 3:50:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: I never had an HP-01. But, I had several Casio CFX-40 and CFX-400 (wristwatch scientific calculator with "programmer" features (hexadecimal, octal, etc.) I replaced broken case on a few, including Bob Wallace's.? Probably still have some.? underneath everything else. A number of years ago (2002), Scott Mueller (author of "Reapair And Upgrade PC") had some extras of those that he was selling. I have an Epson RC-20 wrist computer (Z80-like, RAM, ROM, serial port, touch screen)? Never imported into USA, so I had to learn to read some katakana. But, the book had example programs, with Z80 mnemonics. NO, nobody has ported CP/M to it. There was a Seiko "smart" watch, that had a "candy-bar" keyboard. Gave that away. I have a Fossil watch, which runs Palm Pilot OS.? It is here and handy. It responded when I plugged in the charger!? I'll give it a day to see if it charges. I have numerous OQO (SNAZZY! 4x5x1 inch XP computer) MOST of the big pile of lithium batteries that I have for them will probably not charge.? They refuse to try if below low threshold, but sometimes a little jump will get them started, and charge up. BTDTHTSFP Been There Done That Had T-Shit Form the Picnic On Sun, 19 May 2019, ED SHATTNER via cctalk wrote: > heh! none? ?for? ?you? ?fred > > In a message dated 5/18/2019 7:04:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: > t-shits form those picnic events. > > > On Sat, 18 May 2019, ED SHATTNER via cctalk wrote: >> HP-01 calc watch go-withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who >> else collecting? >> We have a? ?few? ?spare? ?items? ? has? anyone? put? >> together? a? checklist? of? ?go-withs? >> Apparently? there? was a? ?series? of? ?picnics and? t-shits? >> that? came? form those? events. >> >> Drop? ? us? a? note? off list --? >> ?Thanks? Ed# >> (Fondly? remembering the? days? ?Jerry and? I? would? shake? our? HP-01s? at? each other at? ?3000? meetings...) > -- Fred Cisin? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? cisin at xenosoft.com XenoSoft? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.xenosoft.com PO Box 1236? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (510) 234-3397 Berkeley, CA 94701-1236

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HP-01 calc watch go withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who else collecting?

by couryhouse＠aol.com

heh! none? ?for? ?you? ?fred In a message dated 5/18/2019 7:04:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: t-shits form those picnic events. On Sat, 18 May 2019, ED SHATTNER via cctalk wrote: > HP-01 calc watch go-withs - brochures, t- shirts, booklets, ad copy who > else collecting? > We have a? ?few? ?spare? ?items? ? has? anyone? put? > together? a? checklist? of? ?go-withs? > Apparently? there? was a? ?series? of? ?picnics and? t-shits? > that? came? form those? events. > > Drop? ? us? a? note? off list --? > ?Thanks? Ed# > (Fondly? remembering the? days? ?Jerry and? I? would? shake? our? HP-01s? at? each other at? ?3000? meetings...)

6 years, 9 months

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11/93 Rebuild

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys ?????? Well the RD53 in my 11/93 finally clapped out. ?????? The CPU is a late model KDJ11-E with everything on the one board. ?????? So its a switch from MFM to SCSI Drives. ?????? A CQD220A will drive the hard disk and the RQDX3 will stay to look after the RX50 ?????? I've? put the Hard Drive on the primary CSR address (17772150) and I will shift the RQDX3 to an alternate CSR ?????? Comments as to if this is the right way round and what CSR's to use for the two controllers invited. ????? Rod --

6 years, 9 months

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"industrial" PDP-11

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

From: Paul Anderson > They did make the RT100, RT340, etc. which were rugidized versions or > the VTs. We also ran into a VT52 (I think, although possibly it was a VT100) which apparently had been TEMPEST secured; the inside of the casing had been coated with a metallic film. (Or perhaps it was built to operate in an environment with a high E-M radiation level, and kept stuff out, not in.) I don't recall anything else about it now, alas - it's been almost 40 years! Noel

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Kaur Collection Inventory

by athornton＠gmail.com

Last Saturday I went out to the location where the collection mentioned by Kristina Kaur resides, to take photos, create an inventory to the best of my abilities, and help her solicit proposals for the various items. I?m going to lead off with one of my last sentences in this email: PLEASE DO NOT WRITE KRISTINA, OR ME, DIRECTLY WITH YOUR OFFERS. Use the contact form in the Google Drive folder (see below) I?m pointing to and send your proposal to laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com <mailto:laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com> . I have no power over the disposition of any of this?I am just the chronicler?and Kristina wants to route all proposals for acquiring these things through the family's lawyer. The basic background is this: all of this stuff belongs to a man who has run a bulk-mailing business for many years, and who wrote a bunch of his own software for PDP-11 machines to do that bulk mailing. He has continued to use the PDP-11s until, apparently, quite recently. He also, unfortunately, has recently had a stroke, and although he is expected to recover, he is not going to be able to continue running the business, and particularly not from these machines. So his daughter, Kristina, has decided to make the collection available to people who will do right by it (preferably in a public museum), rather than just send it to the scrapper, which is awfully nice of her. I want to express my gratitude to Kristina for allowing me to go out there and root through the collection, and to Ruthann, who provided good company during the digging and invaluable service during the search. There are three locations for all these items. Computing equipment is either in a climate-controlled garage, and apparently has been running until quite recently, or it is in a warehouse, which I do not believe to be climate-controlled but is walled and roofed and kept dark, which are all good things in Tucson. All the manuals were on a bookshelf in the home office, and were kept climate-controlled and relatively dust-free. The manuals are in excellent shape considering their age, with no environmental damage, although some of them are clearly worn from use. Let me get a couple things out of the way first: it was rumored there was an 11/40 here. I didn?t see one, but I saw a mystery PDP-11 in the garage that I believe to be an 11/70. As near as I can tell, there are two PDP-11 systems in the garage (the mystery 70 and an 11/45), which I believe to be in running or near-to-it shape. There?s also a *lot* of stuff out in the warehouse, much of it apparently bought from the University of Arizona at auction over the years, largely shrinkwrapped (sometimes to pallets, sometimes not) or stored in plastic bags. My guess would be that the things in the garage were in general never used after their acquisition, although some may well have been migrated out there after their useful lifespan was over. This is a GUESS. I have no idea of the condition of any of it, or what was cannibalized as spares for other things; I can say that, in general, it?s been stored out of the weather and doesn?t seem to be water damaged or (for Tucson anyway) very dusty. I (and the Kaur family, and everyone) make NO GUARANTEE AT ALL of the condition of any of this. Everything here is sold WHERE IT IS and AS IT IS and it may or may not work or be restorable. It is YOUR responsibility to pick it up, and if it can?t reasonably be restored, tough luck. We don?t know, and the one man in the world who DID know is not in any condition at the moment to tell us. As you might expect from a bulk-mailing business, this collection is super-heavy on printers and various paper-handling devices, as well as tape drives. These are things I know almost nothing about: I have mostly collected 8-bit micros and videogame systems, and only recently have started acquiring and restoring DEC equipment. There may well be pictures of things Kristina doesn?t want to include as part of this lot?all the more modern printers and paper-handling stuff is destined for people in the printing-and-mailing world in Tucson. But there?s an awful lot of stuff here where ?uh, it looks like a lineprinter to me, and maybe you connect it to a PDP-11?? or ?that?s probably a disk drive?? or ?it?s a controller for _something_.? So among the things I?m asking you to do is to please help identify what I took pictures of. I?ll call out the things I find particularly interesting and baffling. I have already offered first pick of the manuals to Al Kossow and bitsavers.org <http://bitsavers.org/>, the Living Computer Museum and Labs, and Jason Scott at the Internet Archives, since that is likelier to get them scanned and preserved than if they just vanish into people?s private collections. The LCML has indicated interest, and I have not heard back yet from the other two. If there?s something from the manual collection you particularly want, and one of those three also wants it, you will probably have to work it out with them. Most of the manuals seem to be for fairly major software, which I suspect (but have not looked to check) that bitsavers already has a copy of. Kristina asks that you please put together a proposal for what you would like from the collection BY MAY 31, and please use the form on ?Equipment Proposal v2.docx? (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oJFVg8MsTie3e3fpdzmfoWmIuQo96aQP <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oJFVg8MsTie3e3fpdzmfoWmIuQo96aQP>) to do that. She and her family?s lawyers will evaluate the various received proposals and she will decide on a division of items. The pictures I took?and many of them are terrible. In many cases I don?t know what I was looking at, and in other cases, the items were not in convenient spots to photograph; sometimes both. All are in the folder at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kECm7hiYComNDTrLEwPPKIdIZ3MqKJ6y <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kECm7hiYComNDTrLEwPPKIdIZ3MqKJ6y> . My inventory of these things is in CSV form at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xv5aYu9tE3BUYZOicgJTTJhrDhy2ci89 <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xv5aYu9tE3BUYZOicgJTTJhrDhy2ci89> and in slightly-better-looking Numbers (a Mac spreadsheet) form at https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi <https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi> . I make no representation as to its accuracy?it?s just the best I could do in the time I had available. For most of the items, there is both a line number (some numbers are missing: this is intentional. They correspond to which spreadsheet line it is, and there are some blank ones) and a reference to the picture of said item, which is the filename (i.e. ?IMG_2xxx.JPG?) in the folder. I didn?t bother to do image IDs for the manuals?they are mostly in order, and I figure everyone can read, so matching the title to the image is generally straightforward. A few notes about the items. It looks to me?and I could be wrong?that there are two PDP-11 systems in the garage. One is obviously an 11/45, and judging from the structure of the panel, the other is some kind of 11/70, but I?ve never seen a front panel quite like this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi <https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi> . Based on the fact that there are two Datasystem 570s out in the warehouse, I suspect it?s a Datasystem with a Frankensteined front panel, but I don?t know. I think that basically it?s two two-cabinet systems, each with a CPU and a disk in one cabinet and a tape drive in the other cabinet, but again, I?m not sure. I have no idea whether the pair of Datasystem 570s in the warehouse are intact or not. There are also three VAXes out there, one 11/750 and two 11/730s. One of the 11/730s clearly has an attached RL02, but I don?t know about the other two. Most of the stuff out there, generally, looks like it?s in good shape in the sense that it was put in the warehouse, often in shrink-wrap, and not exposed to light or weather for a long time. Sometimes a very long time. I am quite curious about what the Sun Microsystems item (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLpoP6ZoHfs3_dvdOFkv9uy68X29OSjV <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLpoP6ZoHfs3_dvdOFkv9uy68X29OSjV>) is?I couldn?t really get to it, and it?s about the right size and shape for a 3/160, but it could also easily be something like a tape drive that Sun OEMed. It has a plate on it identifying it as part of an ?IRAF? system, and what I know about IRAF is that it?s astronomical software (I am helping design something that the LSST project hopes is a ubiquitous successor to it, sort of), and so I kinda suspect this came out of the astronomy department or Steward Observatory at UA. There are no pictures of the 13-or-so Decwriters in the warehouse: they?re on a shelf about 10 feet up and you?re going to need either a forklift to get them down, or be extraordinarily brave. The ADM-3A (well, I think. It?s obviously an ADM terminal, and these match my mental image of 3As, but I could be wrong about the model) was obviously the terminal of choice here and there are a dozen or so. Sorry about that, VT-xxx fans. Again: PLEASE DO NOT WRITE KRISTINA OR ME directly with your offers. Use the contact form and send your proposal to laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com <mailto:laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com> . I hope this is useful to folks. Adam

6 years, 9 months

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ISO Network General Sniffer 5.x manual set

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I've been working on archiving two Sniffers (ethernet and wan) and was wondering if anyone had a spare manual set. I have access to a set, but it is bound and would have to be scanned a page at a time

6 years, 9 months

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Kaur Collection Inventory

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Ed Cross > I saw a mystery PDP-11 in the garage that I believe to be an 11/70. Yeah, I think so; someone has transplanted a few red/purple toggles into it (perhaps some of the original blues got broken), but it's a /70 front panel, which won't (without major kludging/surgery) work on any other model. Without pictures of the insides of the main pull-out bay, and any others (there should be at least one, for the main memory) it's impossible to say how complete a system it is; -11/70 CPU boards are easy to find, though. > please help identify what I took pictures of. A couple of things I hoticed quickly: 2349 shows a PR05 high-speed paper tape reader (like the PC05, but reader-only), and 2325 a CR11 card reader (a Documation unit re-badged by DEC). My impression from looking at it all is that it's a huge pile of stuff, and some is probably just junk that should go to the scrappers. Their process, with the lawyer, is probably too top-heavy for a lot of the smaller items (e.g. 2387 shows a partial PDP-11 front panel which might be of some interest - e.g. I'd buy it if it showed up on eBait). Perhaps some one/group who is local can take everything that's left, after the main items (e.g. the VAX 750 - those are rare, I'm sure someone will scoop that up) are picked out, as a cheap lot, and sort out the good bits and put them up on eBait, and scrap the crap. > I hope this is useful to folks. Yes, very; thanks very much for putting in the effort. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Kaur collection inventory

by athornton＠gmail.com

Last Saturday I went out to the location where the collection mentioned by Kristina Kaur resides, to take photos, create an inventory to the best of my abilities, and help her solicit proposals for the various items. I?m going to lead off with one of my last sentences in this email: PLEASE DO NOT WRITE KRISTINA, OR ME, DIRECTLY WITH YOUR OFFERS. Use the contact form in the Google Drive folder (see below) I?m pointing to and send your proposal to laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com <mailto:laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com> . I have no power over the disposition of any of this?I am just the chronicler?and Kristina wants to route all proposals for acquiring these things through the family's lawyer. The basic background is this: all of this stuff belongs to a man who has run a bulk-mailing business for many years, and who wrote a bunch of his own software for PDP-11 machines to do that bulk mailing. He has continued to use the PDP-11s until, apparently, quite recently. He also, unfortunately, has recently had a stroke, and although he is expected to recover, he is not going to be able to continue running the business, and particularly not from these machines. So his daughter, Kristina, has decided to make the collection available to people who will do right by it (preferably in a public museum), rather than just send it to the scrapper, which is awfully nice of her. I want to express my gratitude to Kristina for allowing me to go out there and root through the collection, and to Ruthann, who provided good company during the digging and invaluable service during the search. There are three locations for all these items. Computing equipment is either in a climate-controlled garage, and apparently has been running until quite recently, or it is in a warehouse, which I do not believe to be climate-controlled but is walled and roofed and kept dark, which are all good things in Tucson. All the manuals were on a bookshelf in the home office, and were kept climate-controlled and relatively dust-free. The manuals are in excellent shape considering their age, with no environmental damage, although some of them are clearly worn from use. Let me get a couple things out of the way first: it was rumored there was an 11/40 here. I didn?t see one, but I saw a mystery PDP-11 in the garage that I believe to be an 11/70. As near as I can tell, there are two PDP-11 systems in the garage (the mystery 70 and an 11/45), which I believe to be in running or near-to-it shape. There?s also a *lot* of stuff out in the warehouse, much of it apparently bought from the University of Arizona at auction over the years, largely shrinkwrapped (sometimes to pallets, sometimes not) or stored in plastic bags. My guess would be that the things in the garage were in general never used after their acquisition, although some may well have been migrated out there after their useful lifespan was over. This is a GUESS. I have no idea of the condition of any of it, or what was cannibalized as spares for other things; I can say that, in general, it?s been stored out of the weather and doesn?t seem to be water damaged or (for Tucson anyway) very dusty. I (and the Kaur family, and everyone) make NO GUARANTEE AT ALL of the condition of any of this. Everything here is sold WHERE IT IS and AS IT IS and it may or may not work or be restorable. It is YOUR responsibility to pick it up, and if it can?t reasonably be restored, tough luck. We don?t know, and the one man in the world who DID know is not in any condition at the moment to tell us. As you might expect from a bulk-mailing business, this collection is super-heavy on printers and various paper-handling devices, as well as tape drives. These are things I know almost nothing about: I have mostly collected 8-bit micros and videogame systems, and only recently have started acquiring and restoring DEC equipment. There may well be pictures of things Kristina doesn?t want to include as part of this lot?all the more modern printers and paper-handling stuff is destined for people in the printing-and-mailing world in Tucson. But there?s an awful lot of stuff here where ?uh, it looks like a lineprinter to me, and maybe you connect it to a PDP-11?? or ?that?s probably a disk drive?? or ?it?s a controller for _something_.? So among the things I?m asking you to do is to please help identify what I took pictures of. I?ll call out the things I find particularly interesting and baffling. I have already offered first pick of the manuals to Al Kossow and bitsavers.org <http://bitsavers.org/>, the Living Computer Museum and Labs, and Jason Scott at the Internet Archives, since that is likelier to get them scanned and preserved than if they just vanish into people?s private collections. The LCML has indicated interest, and I have not heard back yet from the other two. If there?s something from the manual collection you particularly want, and one of those three also wants it, you will probably have to work it out with them. Most of the manuals seem to be for fairly major software, which I suspect (but have not looked to check) that bitsavers already has a copy of. Kristina asks that you please put together a proposal for what you would like from the collection BY MAY 31, and please use the form on ?Equipment Proposal v2.docx? (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oJFVg8MsTie3e3fpdzmfoWmIuQo96aQP <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oJFVg8MsTie3e3fpdzmfoWmIuQo96aQP>) to do that. She and her family?s lawyers will evaluate the various received proposals and she will decide on a division of items. The pictures I took?and many of them are terrible. In many cases I don?t know what I was looking at, and in other cases, the items were not in convenient spots to photograph; sometimes both. All are in the folder at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kECm7hiYComNDTrLEwPPKIdIZ3MqKJ6y <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kECm7hiYComNDTrLEwPPKIdIZ3MqKJ6y> . My inventory of these things is in CSV form at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xv5aYu9tE3BUYZOicgJTTJhrDhy2ci89 <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xv5aYu9tE3BUYZOicgJTTJhrDhy2ci89> and in slightly-better-looking Numbers (a Mac spreadsheet) form at https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi <https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi> . I make no representation as to its accuracy?it?s just the best I could do in the time I had available. For most of the items, there is both a line number (some numbers are missing: this is intentional. They correspond to which spreadsheet line it is, and there are some blank ones) and a reference to the picture of said item, which is the filename (i.e. ?IMG_2xxx.JPG?) in the folder. I didn?t bother to do image IDs for the manuals?they are mostly in order, and I figure everyone can read, so matching the title to the image is generally straightforward. A few notes about the items. It looks to me?and I could be wrong?that there are two PDP-11 systems in the garage. One is obviously an 11/45, and judging from the structure of the panel, the other is some kind of 11/70, but I?ve never seen a front panel quite like this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi <https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi> . Based on the fact that there are two Datasystem 570s out in the warehouse, I suspect it?s a Datasystem with a Frankensteined front panel, but I don?t know. I think that basically it?s two two-cabinet systems, each with a CPU and a disk in one cabinet and a tape drive in the other cabinet, but again, I?m not sure. I have no idea whether the pair of Datasystem 570s in the warehouse are intact or not. There are also three VAXes out there, one 11/750 and two 11/730s. One of the 11/730s clearly has an attached RL02, but I don?t know about the other two. Most of the stuff out there, generally, looks like it?s in good shape in the sense that it was put in the warehouse, often in shrink-wrap, and not exposed to light or weather for a long time. Sometimes a very long time. I am quite curious about what the Sun Microsystems item (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLpoP6ZoHfs3_dvdOFkv9uy68X29OSjV <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLpoP6ZoHfs3_dvdOFkv9uy68X29OSjV>) is?I couldn?t really get to it, and it?s about the right size and shape for a 3/160, but it could also easily be something like a tape drive that Sun OEMed. It has a plate on it identifying it as part of an ?IRAF? system, and what I know about IRAF is that it?s astronomical software (I am helping design something that the LSST project hopes is a ubiquitous successor to it, sort of), and so I kinda suspect this came out of the astronomy department or Steward Observatory at UA. There are no pictures of the 13-or-so Decwriters in the warehouse: they?re on a shelf about 10 feet up and you?re going to need either a forklift to get them down, or be extraordinarily brave. The ADM-3A (well, I think. It?s obviously an ADM terminal, and these match my mental image of 3As, but I could be wrong about the model) was obviously the terminal of choice here and there are a dozen or so. Sorry about that, VT-xxx fans. Again: PLEASE DO NOT WRITE KRISTINA OR ME directly with your offers. Use the contact form and send your proposal to laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com <mailto:laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com> . I hope this is useful to folks. Adam

6 years, 9 months

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Kaur Collection Inventory

by athornton＠gmail.com

Last Saturday I went out to the location where the collection mentioned by Kristina Kaur resides, to take photos, create an inventory to the best of my abilities, and help her solicit proposals for the various items. I?m going to lead off with one of my last sentences in this email: PLEASE DO NOT WRITE KRISTINA, OR ME, DIRECTLY WITH YOUR OFFERS. Use the contact form in the Google Drive folder (see below) I?m pointing to and send your proposal to laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com <mailto:laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com> . I have no power over the disposition of any of this?I am just the chronicler?and Kristina wants to route all proposals for acquiring these things through the family's lawyer. The basic background is this: all of this stuff belongs to a man who has run a bulk-mailing business for many years, and who wrote a bunch of his own software for PDP-11 machines to do that bulk mailing. He has continued to use the PDP-11s until, apparently, quite recently. He also, unfortunately, has recently had a stroke, and although he is expected to recover, he is not going to be able to continue running the business, and particularly not from these machines. So his daughter, Kristina, has decided to make the collection available to people who will do right by it (preferably in a public museum), rather than just send it to the scrapper, which is awfully nice of her. I want to express my gratitude to Kristina for allowing me to go out there and root through the collection, and to Ruthann, who provided good company during the digging and invaluable service during the search. There are three locations for all these items. Computing equipment is either in a climate-controlled garage, and apparently has been running until quite recently, or it is in a warehouse, which I do not believe to be climate-controlled but is walled and roofed and kept dark, which are all good things in Tucson. All the manuals were on a bookshelf in the home office, and were kept climate-controlled and relatively dust-free. The manuals are in excellent shape considering their age, with no environmental damage, although some of them are clearly worn from use. Let me get a couple things out of the way first: it was rumored there was an 11/40 here. I didn?t see one, but I saw a mystery PDP-11 in the garage that I believe to be an 11/70. As near as I can tell, there are two PDP-11 systems in the garage (the mystery 70 and an 11/45), which I believe to be in running or near-to-it shape. There?s also a *lot* of stuff out in the warehouse, much of it apparently bought from the University of Arizona at auction over the years, largely shrinkwrapped (sometimes to pallets, sometimes not) or stored in plastic bags. My guess would be that the things in the garage were in general never used after their acquisition, although some may well have been migrated out there after their useful lifespan was over. This is a GUESS. I have no idea of the condition of any of it, or what was cannibalized as spares for other things; I can say that, in general, it?s been stored out of the weather and doesn?t seem to be water damaged or (for Tucson anyway) very dusty. I (and the Kaur family, and everyone) make NO GUARANTEE AT ALL of the condition of any of this. Everything here is sold WHERE IT IS and AS IT IS and it may or may not work or be restorable. It is YOUR responsibility to pick it up, and if it can?t reasonably be restored, tough luck. We don?t know, and the one man in the world who DID know is not in any condition at the moment to tell us. As you might expect from a bulk-mailing business, this collection is super-heavy on printers and various paper-handling devices, as well as tape drives. These are things I know almost nothing about: I have mostly collected 8-bit micros and videogame systems, and only recently have started acquiring and restoring DEC equipment. There may well be pictures of things Kristina doesn?t want to include as part of this lot?all the more modern printers and paper-handling stuff is destined for people in the printing-and-mailing world in Tucson. But there?s an awful lot of stuff here where ?uh, it looks like a lineprinter to me, and maybe you connect it to a PDP-11?? or ?that?s probably a disk drive?? or ?it?s a controller for _something_.? So among the things I?m asking you to do is to please help identify what I took pictures of. I?ll call out the things I find particularly interesting and baffling. I have already offered first pick of the manuals to Al Kossow and bitsavers.org, the Living Computer Museum and Labs, and Jason Scott at the Internet Archives, since that is likelier to get them scanned and preserved than if they just vanish into people?s private collections. The LCML has indicated interest, and I have not heard back yet from the other two. If there?s something from the manual collection you particularly want, and one of those three also wants it, you will probably have to work it out with them. Most of the manuals seem to be for fairly major software, which I suspect (but have not looked to check) that bitsavers already has a copy of. Kristina asks that you please put together a proposal for what you would like from the collection BY MAY 31, and please use the form on ?Equipment Proposal v2.docx? (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oJFVg8MsTie3e3fpdzmfoWmIuQo96aQP <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oJFVg8MsTie3e3fpdzmfoWmIuQo96aQP>) to do that. She and her family?s lawyers will evaluate the various received proposals and she will decide on a division of items. The pictures I took?and many of them are terrible. In many cases I don?t know what I was looking at, and in other cases, the items were not in convenient spots to photograph; sometimes both. All are in the folder at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kECm7hiYComNDTrLEwPPKIdIZ3MqKJ6y <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kECm7hiYComNDTrLEwPPKIdIZ3MqKJ6y> . My inventory of these things is in CSV form at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xv5aYu9tE3BUYZOicgJTTJhrDhy2ci89 <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xv5aYu9tE3BUYZOicgJTTJhrDhy2ci89> and in slightly-better-looking Numbers (a Mac spreadsheet) form at https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi <https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi> . I make no representation as to its accuracy?it?s just the best I could do in the time I had available. For most of the items, there is both a line number (some numbers are missing: this is intentional. They correspond to which spreadsheet line it is, and there are some blank ones) and a reference to the picture of said item, which is the filename (i.e. ?IMG_2xxx.JPG?) in the folder. I didn?t bother to do image IDs for the manuals?they are mostly in order, and I figure everyone can read, so matching the title to the image is generally straightforward. A few notes about the items. It looks to me?and I could be wrong?that there are two PDP-11 systems in the garage. One is obviously an 11/45, and judging from the structure of the panel, the other is some kind of 11/70, but I?ve never seen a front panel quite like this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi <https://drive.google.com/open?id=15i1hEKjB108cq4g4B7c7gNpn-HDbgRIi> . Based on the fact that there are two Datasystem 570s out in the warehouse, I suspect it?s a Datasystem with a Frankensteined front panel, but I don?t know. I think that basically it?s two two-cabinet systems, each with a CPU and a disk in one cabinet and a tape drive in the other cabinet, but again, I?m not sure. I have no idea whether the pair of Datasystem 570s in the warehouse are intact or not. There are also three VAXes out there, one 11/750 and two 11/730s. One of the 11/730s clearly has an attached RL02, but I don?t know about the other two. Most of the stuff out there, generally, looks like it?s in good shape in the sense that it was put in the warehouse, often in shrink-wrap, and not exposed to light or weather for a long time. Sometimes a very long time. I am quite curious about what the Sun Microsystems item (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLpoP6ZoHfs3_dvdOFkv9uy68X29OSjV <https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLpoP6ZoHfs3_dvdOFkv9uy68X29OSjV>) is?I couldn?t really get to it, and it?s about the right size and shape for a 3/160, but it could also easily be something like a tape drive that Sun OEMed. It has a plate on it identifying it as part of an ?IRAF? system, and what I know about IRAF is that it?s astronomical software (I am helping design something that the LSST project hopes is a ubiquitous successor to it, sort of), and so I kinda suspect this came out of the astronomy department or Steward Observatory at UA. There are no pictures of the 13-or-so Decwriters in the warehouse: they?re on a shelf about 10 feet up and you?re going to need either a forklift to get them down, or be extraordinarily brave. The ADM-3A (well, I think. It?s obviously an ADM terminal, and these match my mental image of 3As, but I could be wrong about the model) was obviously the terminal of choice here and there are a dozen or so. Sorry about that, VT-xxx fans. Again: PLEASE DO NOT WRITE KRISTINA OR ME directly with your offers. Use the contact form and send your proposal to laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com <mailto:laura at rubinbernsteinlaw.com> . I hope this is useful to folks. Adam Please find the ?Description? column of the items here below; the spreadsheet is available from the link above. PDP-11/70? CDC 9766 #1 CDC 9766 #2 Disks for same system? System Industries 9400 Controller PDP-11/45 Kennedy 9401 Tape Drive Mystery printer Lineprinter #1 Zoom Modem Another System Industries 9400 Controller Lineprinter #2 ADM/3A(?) #1 ADM/3A #2 ADM/3A #3 ADM/3A #4 Hitachi V-1050F Oscilloscope PDP Datasystem 570 (11/70) #1 PDP Datasystem 570 (11/70) #2 Vax 11/730 w/RL02 disk Pertech Tape drive #1 Pertec Tape Drive #2 Vax 11/750(?) Dec Magtape TE16 9-channel Vax 11/730 RM-80 DEC Disk Drive Cipher Systems disk drive (?) CDC disk drives (?) Kennedy 9400 controller ADM/3A #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10 #11 #12 #13 #14 (? +?) Lineprinter Prime 300 MB disk drive #1 Prime 300 MB disk drive #1 PDP-11 panel piece Tektronix 502 Dual-Beam Oscilloscope Sun Microsystems ??? IBM 029 Punch Lineprinter Yet Another Lineprinter Cabinet full of University Of Arizona Punchcards Acoustic-coupled modem Decwriter #1 Decwriter #2 Decwriter #3 Decwriter #4 Decwriter #5 Decwriter #6 Decwriter #7 Decwriter #8 Decwriter #9 Decwriter #10 Decwriter #11 Decwriter #12 Decwriter #13 (?+?) ODT-11R Debugging Program, PIP File Utility Package, Link-11 Linker and Libr-11 Librarian PDP-11 Filedump Utility Program PDP-11 Disk Operating System Monitor Programmer's Handbook MACRO-11 Manual PDP-11 TECO User's Guide (binder) BATCH-11 User's Guide PDP-11 FORTRAN IV Compiler and Object Time System Programmer's Manual (binder) PDP-11 Programming Fundamentals VT-100 Technical Manual VT-100 User Guide WS200 Series Word Processing Computer System CSS Products KMD11-C Multipline DDCMP Multiplexer Digital Standard MUMPS DSM-11 Technical Summary Something New Is Sweeping The World Of Educational Computing PDP-11 TECO User's Guide VAX-11/750 marketing slick MA780 Multiport memory marketing DEC Datasystem 500 Indent Guide FMS-11 Forms Management System Datatrieve-11 DIGITAL Software Product Description Jan 1986 MUX200/VAX PDP-11 RSTS v7.0 Release Notes RT-11 Programmer's Reference Manual RT-11 Software Support Manual FORTRAN IV Enhanced Character Graphics Programmable Data Processor Yesterday and Today BATCH-11/DOS-11 PDP-11 FORTRAN IV Compiler Technical Specification PDP-11 Device Driver Package for Monitor Version v008A October 1972 Computer Engineering: A DEC view of Hardware Systems Design PDP-11 RSTS/E v7.0 Release Notes for the RM05 RSTS/E v7.0 Documentation Directory FORTRAN IV-Plus User's Guide PDP-11 FORTRAN-IV Compiler and Object Time System Programmer's Manual PDP-11 Disk Operating System Monitor User's Manual DOS/BATCH FORTRAN Compiler and Object Time System PDP-11 BATCH user's guide Introducing the PDP-11/44 EDIT manual RSTS/E Text Editor Manual another PDP-11 FORTRAN-IV Compiler and Object Time System Programmer's Manual RSTS-11 System Manager's Guide DOS/BATCH Debugging Program (ODT-11R) Programmer's Manual PDP-11 Software Price List March 1973 DEC Newsflash BASIC-11 Language Reference Manual RT-11 Manual 1975 Special Decus Issue Technical Documentation PDP Systems and Options Catalog 1989 Jan-June BATCH-11/DOS-11 Assembler (MACRO-11) A General Purpose System for Interfacing a PDP-8 Computer to Pulse Counting Experiment (DECUSCOPE) Introduction to RSX-11M RSX-11D Guide to Writing a Device Handler Task VAX Software Handbook VAX11 Architecture Handbook VAX11/780 Hardware Handbook RSTS/E RUNOFF User's Guide Wespercorp DEC TM11-Compatible Tape Controller Diagnostic Manual Wespercorp Model TC-131 Tape Controller Hardware Manual Wespercorp Model TC-131 Tape Controller Logic Manual BATCH-11/DOS-11 Debugging Program (ODT-11R) PDP-11 BASIC Programming Manual (Single User, Paper Tape Software) PDP-11 PAL-11S Assembler and LINK-11S Linker Programmer's Manual PDP-11 Edit-11 Text Editor Programmer's Manual PDP-11 FORTRAN Language Reference Manual PDP-11 FORTRAN Language Reference Manual (#2) BATCH-11/DOS-11 Edit-11 Text Editor Programmer's Manual DOS/BATCH Text Editor (EDIT-11) Programmer's Manual RSTS/E Text Editor Manual another RSTS/E RUNOFF User's Guide RSTS-11 System User's Guide RSTS-11 System User's Guide Addendum RSTS Version 4B RSTS/E Version 5C (February 1975) Computer Programs For Automatic Countouring (McIntyre et al) FORTRAN IV Computer Program For Fitting Conserved Count Data?.(Ondrick & Griffith) FORTRAN IV CDC 6400 Computer Program to Analyze Subsurface Fold Geometry (Whitten)

6 years, 9 months

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TeleVideo 1603 goodies

by pat＠vax11.net

I got some high resolution pictures posted of an early rev main board for the system, plus the front/back of unpopulated memory expansion and graphics boards for the system. Maybe someone else out there could find a use for that PCB artwork :) https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ILZ2UgwtfmoAtBMIYYIjaW4h5fKEPUYA Pat

6 years, 9 months

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Event Announcement: DEC Legacy is back on 9th-10th Nov 2019, Windermere UK

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

DEC Legacy 2019 is on! The next DEC Legacy will take place Saturday 9th November 2019 - Sunday 10th at the Marchesi Centre in Windermere, North West UK. With a focus on Digital Equipment Corporation and their legacy of hardware, software and ethos I'm also extending an open invitation to those who are interested in SGI, HP, Sun, IBM and other high end hardware to come along and share their passion with us. Several formal presentations will be mixed with plenty of hands on time with hardware brought by enthusiasts. Enthusiasts are encouraged to bring along hardware and software to exhibit. The personal nature of the event brings a unique atmosphere within which friendships are easily forged. Registration is now open. Please visit http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/ for more details. Regards, Mark Wickens, M0NOM

6 years, 9 months

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Plessey disk drawing sets

by aek＠bitsavers.org

did anyone happen to get any of these? https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1979-PLESSEY-PERIPHERAL-SYSTEMS-MAINTENANC… they are different from the first set that I got for him, forgot about the auction, tried email and they say they are no longer available.

6 years, 9 months

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OT: Gaming Gear

by cclist＠sydex.com

Okay, Newegg dropped a deal on a Seagate 25B "Gaming" SSHD. Exactly what does that mean? --CHuck

6 years, 9 months

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"industrial" PDP-11

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Paul Anderson >> although the /35 was _usually_ supplied in a BA11-D 10-1/2" box > I'm pretty sure the 11/35 came in a F box too. That would be why I said "usually"! :-) Noel

6 years, 9 months

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DG One owners? I think I have something.

by shadoooo＠gmail.com

Hello, I have two DG One, they are however not identical. One is the older version, the other is more recent and have a different display. I never heard of a keypad accessory, it would be a very nice piece indeed! I should check for connectors on the back? Thanks Andrea

6 years, 9 months

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"industrial" PDP-11

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> although the /35 was _usually_ supplied in a BA11-D 10-1/2" box Oh, that should be 'early units in the BA11-D; later ones used the BA11-K'. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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"industrial" PDP-11

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Jules Richardson > On 5/15/19 9:29 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: >> Here's the Industrial 11 version of the 11/05 There's an Industrial 11 version of the -11/70, too: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/consoles/1170IndustCenter.jpg So the only one missing (of the early -11's) is the /45, but I wouldn't be surprised if that existed too. I've no idea about the /20 (I don't think the /20R counts), or the later machines without physical switch registers (/04, /34, etc). > and /5 or /10, or in fact what the difference is between the two > anyway, I'm not sure The paint on the front console inlay (I'm not joking :-). Other than the /15-/20 (which do have slight hardware differences), none of the OEM/End-User pairs have hardware differences in the circuitry that I know of (although the /35 was _usually_ supplied in a BA11-D 10-1/2" box, and the /40 in the BA11-F 21" - and there are rare counter-examples to this rule). Noel

6 years, 9 months

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DG One owners? I think I have something.

by cclist＠sydex.com

A kindly donor sent me an external numeric keypad from Data General. It has the right keycaps and color for a DG One laptop. Model number 2568. Connection is via a 3-terminal plug; basically a miniature stereo headphone plug. I'll give this up to a One collector who can identify this for certain. Otherwise, I'll probably repurpose it. FWIW, it appears to be unsued--not even the rubber feet have dirt or wear. --Chuck

6 years, 9 months

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Mac 1K

by sales＠elecplus.com

I recently obtained a Mac 1K in a Mac 512K box. It does not power on, and it smells a bit toasty. Does it require a keyboard to power on? I have a M0110A. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

6 years, 9 months

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What is this?

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486774619186135050/578282338375565322 /JPEG_20190515_130651.jpg Can anyone identify/explain this to me? The same company made joysticks and other peripherals for pre-PC systems. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

6 years, 9 months

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TeleVideo TS-1603

by pat＠vax11.net

I finally acquired an elusive TS-1603, and have scanned the manuals that I got with it if anyone is interested: Advertising glossies for various TeleVideo software/hardware: https://drive.google.com/open?id=12ld7EbXgytvX7u9hIVgGKgjbl6o86pc8 TeleVideo Supermouse user's manual: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YLdb1Gh5pK3KP2Dz_VPEXWDZnVlywPKG TeleVideo TS-1603 user's manual: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1puxc77jYEq0L91dhT4obUxRRv-lOXp5B TeleVideo TS-1603 & TS-1603H: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TO1CNwVoonR-0rVkkS0j27MvitRjEIyI I also got a pile of floppies including diags, applications, OS, and some TeleVideo source code, which I'm still sorting through: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jrmPfGxrlSHGdaEXuiEAd8GKosgUcXL7 I'm still looking for an 806 and 800/800A/800R. Pat

6 years, 9 months

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Dallas trip

by sales＠elecplus.com

Due to severe weather, the trip did not happen last week, and will not happen this week. Tornadoes and floods are not fun, and much of the drive is on very low roads. I will see if next week looks clear enough. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sales at elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

6 years, 9 months

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RS2030 MIPS workstation

by dennis.grevenstein＠gmail.com

Hi, On 5/3/19 3:22 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > Anyone know much about early MIPS workstations? I'm trying to get a > MIPS RS2030 to boot, without much luck so far. It goes through the > selftest but stops with the internal LED display at "5" accompanied by > a continuous beep. > > Known problems: > > - The Dallas DS1287 battery is flat; I can hack a 3V lithium onto that. > I assume it should still work to some extent > even if the contents are lost? I have the same problem with a cloned MIPS machine, a Sumitomo Sumistation SP300. The biggest problem with my machine is that the NVRAM holds the ethernet address. If it goes flat, there seems to be no way to reprogram the NVRAM. If you find any solution for this, please tell me. Aside from the now broken ethernet, the machine works fine. It?s a 25MHz R3000 with 32MB RAM. The box runs SEIUX, something like Risc/os 4 in SVR3 mode with extra japanese localization, but adapted to the hardware. Some people said that some of the old MIPS machines used a M48T02 NVRAM and that you could plug the NVRAM in a SPARCstation to restore the ethernet address. So far, I have found no mentioning of the DS1287. A special problem with my machine is that most parts are soldered, including the NVRAM. Dennis

6 years, 9 months

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PDP8-A parts

by useddec＠gmail.com

While digging for a KY11-LB for a fellow list member, I came across a few operators panels and programmer panels for 8-As. Sorry, I don't remember the part numbers. I have extra M8315s, M8316s M8316s, and a bunch of other 8-A boards. Please contact me off list if you have any interest. Thanks, Paul

6 years, 9 months

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Network cards and Win98SE

by cclist＠sydex.com

On 5/13/19 11:58 AM, Grant Taylor wrote: > On May 12, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: >> Don't know a thing about gaming and never wanted to--wrong generation, I guess. > > Perhaps ?gaming adapter? is the wrong term for this audience. > > Let me describe it as a type of switch that you plug the wired computer into, go to a management webpage there on and give it the wireless network information.<snip> I don't want to get into a long discussion; I merely wanted to point out that you're unlikely to find the term "gaming adapter" in Linux tech docs as they're not written for that audience. And it's very likely that something with the Debian kernel will be used on an OPZ. --Chuck

6 years, 9 months

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Network cards and Win98SE

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 11:36 AM 5/14/2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >> But you did look it up, and I'm guessing you now have an idea where it >> could be used, even for things other than gaming consoles. >No, not really. Some kind of toy attachment. Not really relevant to >the discussion, AFAICS. We should start a campaign to get all those companies who make products that don't exist! <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_game_adapter>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_game_adapter https://www.google.com/search?q=wireless+"gaming+adapter" <https://www.linksys.com/us/support-product?pid=01t80000003KMvaAAG>https://www.linksys.com/us/support-product?pid=01t80000003KMvaAAG https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/653104-REG/Trendnet_TEW_647GA_Wirele… <https://www.cnet.com/products/usrobotics-wireless-gaming-adapter-ethernet-b…>https://www.cnet.com/products/usrobotics-wireless-gaming-adapter-ethernet-b… https://superuser.com/questions/663980/what-are-the-differences-between-wir… - John

6 years, 9 months

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HP 1000 E-series peripherals wanted

by alaricnicoll＠icloud.com

Hi I was wondering if there were any people who were wanting to sell any HP 1000 computer peripherals. Preferably disk oriented Such as a disk controller or a 79xx drive (I live in the UK so shipping may be an issue for larger things)

6 years, 9 months

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Network cards and Win98SE

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

Thanks for the tips. The reason I?m not using Ethernet cable is because the Vintage Computer Room (where this PC resides) is on the 2nd floor around a couple of corners, and my DSL modem/router and unfiltered phone line are in the 1st floor study. Would take a long run and some drilling, or duct taping it to the banister and hoping the dog and cats don?t eat it ;) However, after finally giving up on the wireless cards... I realized that I had a simple Linksys LNE100TX Ethernet card in the PC junk pile. I installed that (it was recognized by 98SE and the drivers worked first time too), then brought my laptop upstairs and set it up as a bridge. That works, but is clumsy and requires another computer. My next idea was to find a wireless device to connect to the Ethernet card. I found out about WLAN, bridging, and most importantly, that many models of router can be reflashed with dd-wrt software, and act as the bridge I needed! Also in the closet was a Linksys E1200 router, which is one of the models supported by dd-wrt. So I flashed it and hooked it up. After a bit of struggle (incomplete directions but I managed to fill in the missing pieces) I now have wireless network and Internet access on the old machine :) Incidentally, PUTR now works perfectly since I?m running 98SE/DOS.

6 years, 9 months

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Network cards and Win98SE

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: John Foust > I missed the start of this discussion... exactly why did you want to > rely on a wireless connection and couldn't string a network cable? The list archive: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/ is your friend. (That's actually how I read it, so my emailbox won't get buried in sludge.) Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Network cards and Win98SE

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

>You could have installed a gaming adapter, opened the web page, >connected it to the wireless and been done. Sure, but you assume I know anything about online gaming (I don't); it would require purchasing one, *and* I already had the Linksys router and card, just gathering dust for years! I like to improvise with what's on hand rather than spending money on a really ancient PC :)

6 years, 9 months

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KCC on TOPS-20 linking question

by athornton＠gmail.com

So, I've been porting Frotz to TOPS-20. https://github.com/athornton/tops20-frotz It's been going fine, except that I have something going on with the linker I don't have enough expertise to understand. On Mark Crispin's panda distribution, "cc -o frotz *.c" does the trick. But on TOPS-20 on the LCML's TOAD-2, I get a bunch of undefined global symbols, which all seem to be from libc. That suggests to me that KCC at LCML isn't configured to automatically trigger the linker with the right library path (something like unix:<root.usr.lib>) for the C standard libraries. So the first question is: where's the KCC configuration stored, so we can add the right library path, and the second one is, failing that, how do I link all my .rel files against the C library to get a working executable (an answer simplified from "read the linker manual" would be appreciated; I've started that but it's a little daunting and I suspect it will take me a while to chew through)? Adam

6 years, 9 months

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PDP-11/40 available, Arizona

by couryhouse＠aol.com

JUST? ?DOWN THE? ?ROAD A? FEW? HOURS? FROM? US HERE! ED# In a message dated 5/11/2019 2:33:48 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: Great! Good luck with the visit. The other day I wrote to Kristina to express interest. > On 11 May 2019, at 04:38, Fritz Mueller via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > >> On 5/10/19 6:42 PM, Adam Thornton via cctech wrote: >> I have been invited out to the site tomorrow morning to take an inventory of what?s there (I live near the machines). >> I imagine that I may well have a lot of photos that I bring to the list and say ?what is this?? > > Standing by to help out!? Go get it, Adam -- (come on, you can _make_ room! :-))

6 years, 9 months

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Network cards and Win98SE

by malcolm＠avitech.com.au

> Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 17:41:24 -0500 > From: "Charles" <charlesmorris800 at centurytel.net> > To: "cctalk digest" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Network cards and Win98SE > Message-ID: <4F49BB9C660F44B8B67371D3BAB651AA at CharlesDellLap> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I have tried for two days to get wireless networking running on my old PC > under Win 98SE, so I can use PUTR without a separate partition or boot. XP > is on an 8.4 GB drive. 98SE is on an older 540 MB drive. > > There are two network cards (a Netgear WPN311 with Atheros chipset, and > an > Encore ENWLI-G2 with Realtek 8185 chip) and neither will work with > Win98SE. > I have tried the manufacturer's drivers, Atheros drivers, Realtek drivers... > none of it works. The Realtek driver installs but gives a fault in RUNDLL32. > > Netgear's website claims that the WPN311 can run under 98SE and later. > Some > sources for that driver package say it starts with XP. Although I would tend > to believe the manufacturer... > The same Netgear card in the same motherboard was working correctly with > the > XP drive. > > I even did a fresh install of 98SE. Then installed the WPN311 software, then > the card. Windows says the card is installed and working properly. > But the Netgear utility won't run (hangs, Task Manager showing wlancfg5 not > responding). That's usually because it can't see the card. > > Searching the net including various forums from years ago hasn't helped. > So I'm about to give up. Wasted enough hours on this. Back to XP with a DOS > partition for running PUTR. > Unless someone has a better idea :) > > thanks > Charles Hi Charles, About 5 years ago I spent way too much time trying to sort out a PC platform that would meet my needs for disk imaging (ImageDisk), PUTR, network file transfers and ISA-based EPROM programmers. I eventually settled on a Pentium II bare motherboard, AHA-1522A SCSI card (for its floppy controller which supports single-density disks), CF card as a hard drive, FDADAP adapter (for 8" drives), a generic ISA network interface card, MSDOS 6.22, Norton Commander and Michael Brutman's mTCP package. With this setup I can run PUTR and ImageDisk without any Windows-related issues. File transfers to other computers are a breeze: mTCP includes an FTP server and I just run FileZilla on my Windows machines to connect to the MSDOS machine. Alternatively I can power down the MSDOS machine, and plug the CF card into a USB adapter and copy files that way instead. I appreciate these suggestions won't help if you need to have Win98 on the same machine for other reasons. Malcolm.

6 years, 9 months

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Network cards and Win98SE

by couryhouse＠aol.com

I use? ? 3? com? stuff? I? think? ? the other brands? ?I? toss in a? box in the warehouse. later? ?3? com? stuff auto? finds? etc? works? fine... lats a long? time! ( paint it? grey and It? will not? rust ) Ed# In a message dated 5/13/2019 3:39:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: On 5/13/19 3:56 PM, Charles via cctalk wrote: > Thanks for the tips. The reason I?m not using Ethernet cable is because > the Vintage Computer Room (where this PC resides) is on the 2nd floor > around a couple of corners, and my DSL modem/router and unfiltered phone > line are in the 1st floor study. Would take a long run and some > drilling, or duct taping it to the banister and hoping the dog and cats > don?t eat it ;) > > However, after finally giving up on the wireless cards... I realized > that I had a simple Linksys LNE100TX Ethernet card in the PC junk pile. > I installed that (it was recognized by 98SE and the drivers worked first > time too), then brought my laptop upstairs and set it up as a bridge. > That works, but is clumsy and requires another computer. So you turned your laptop into a gaming adapter. > My next idea was to find a wireless device to connect to the Ethernet > card. I found out about WLAN, bridging, and most importantly, that many > models of router can be reflashed with dd-wrt software, and act as the > bridge I needed! Also in the closet was a Linksys E1200 router, which is > one of the models supported by dd-wrt. So I flashed it and hooked it up. You turned the Linksys into a gaming adapter. > After a bit of struggle (incomplete directions but I managed to fill in > the missing pieces) I now have wireless network and Internet access on > the old machine :) You could have installed a gaming adapter, opened the web page, connected it to the wireless and been done. > Incidentally, PUTR now works perfectly since I?m running 98SE/DOS. Ya. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

6 years, 9 months

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TMSCP docs?

by derschjo＠gmail.com

I've been working on an MSCP controller implemented on top of Joerg Hoppe's Unibone and that's been going fairly well, modulo a few oddities here and there (if you have a Unibone and want to beta-test it, it's up at https://github.com/livingcomputermuseum/UniBone). It'd be nice to extend it to do TMSCP as well. Is there an equivalent to the "MSCP Basic Disk Functions Manual" (AA-L619A-TK) for TMSCP? I can probably glean most of the information I need from various *nix device driver sources out there, but it'd be nice to have the definitive reference on hand, and so far it's been eluding me. But maybe I'm just not looking hard enough... Thanks! Josh

6 years, 9 months

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How were 32-bit minis built in the 70s/80?

by wkt＠tuhs.org

I'm building my own 8-bit CPU from TTL chips, and this caused me to think: how were 32-bit minis built in the late 70s and early 80s? In particular, how was the ALU built? I know about the 74181 4-bit ALU, and I know (from reading A Soul of a New Machine) that PALs were also used. Did companies get custom chips fabricated, or was it all off-the-shelf chips with a few PALs sprinkled in? Thanks, Warren

6 years, 9 months

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Pleas ID this IBM system....

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Christian Corti > 3710 Euro... someone with definitely too much money ... So no, we did > not get the system, and it probably won't go into a museum. Well, I did send you email offering to contribute, to help you all buy it. Did my email not make it to you? Noel

6 years, 9 months

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Network cards and Win98SE

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

I have tried for two days to get wireless networking running on my old PC under Win 98SE, so I can use PUTR without a separate partition or boot. XP is on an 8.4 GB drive. 98SE is on an older 540 MB drive. There are two network cards (a Netgear WPN311 with Atheros chipset, and an Encore ENWLI-G2 with Realtek 8185 chip) and neither will work with Win98SE. I have tried the manufacturer's drivers, Atheros drivers, Realtek drivers... none of it works. The Realtek driver installs but gives a fault in RUNDLL32. Netgear's website claims that the WPN311 can run under 98SE and later. Some sources for that driver package say it starts with XP. Although I would tend to believe the manufacturer... The same Netgear card in the same motherboard was working correctly with the XP drive. I even did a fresh install of 98SE. Then installed the WPN311 software, then the card. Windows says the card is installed and working properly. But the Netgear utility won't run (hangs, Task Manager showing wlancfg5 not responding). That's usually because it can't see the card. Searching the net including various forums from years ago hasn't helped. So I'm about to give up. Wasted enough hours on this. Back to XP with a DOS partition for running PUTR. Unless someone has a better idea :) thanks Charles

6 years, 9 months

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Possible PUTR bug?

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

Just an update... I spent an entire long afternoon wrestling with that old PC, trying to find some combination of HDD jumpers and BIOS settings that would allow the XP hard drive to boot with another drive attached (either on the slave connector or the secondary channel with the CD-ROM removed). No dice. So I had the bright idea to use Minitool's Partition Wizard, and shrink my Windows partition so there'd be room for a newDOS partition. But it won't even run (probably because I have only 64 MB RAM on that box). Grrr. It's unbelievably slow anyhow, so more SDRAM on order, which is really cheap these days. I'd get a newer PC for the workbench, but need to keep the old motherboard because there are a couple of devices (including a PB-10 PROM programmer) which are ISA slots. So, this has become a Windows/PC (ugh) project instead of just being able to play with my PDP-11...

6 years, 9 months

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What is this?

by cctalk＠emailtoilet.com

http://www.myimagecollection.com/webpics/unknownmachine.jpg The model number looks like 9603. Can't tell for sure. The box in back has the 14xx flavor.

6 years, 9 months

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Extra copy of "LSI-11, PDP-11/03 User's Manual"

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

As a result of an inventory error on my part, I wound up with an extra copy of "LSI-11, PDP-11/03 User's Manual" (EK-LSI11-TM-003). I'd like to pass it along to someone, provided I'm reimbursed _most_ of my eBait expenditure on it (it was not, alas, cheap). Anyone interested? Noel

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PDP-11/40 available, Arizona

by athornton＠gmail.com

I have been invited out to the site tomorrow morning to take an inventory of what?s there (I live near the machines). I imagine that I may well have a lot of photos that I bring to the list and say ?what is this?? The owner has assured me the machines will not be sent to the scrapper and that there are multiple interested parties, which is good, because I really don?t have a good place to put 8 cabinets of PDP-11. Not that having an 11/40 running Sixth Edition Unix wouldn?t be cool. I?ll report back once I have an inventory. Adam

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HP 1000 A900 ("Magic") Questions

by pbirkel＠gmail.com

Aficionados; I'm interested in acquiring an HP1000 A900, in any form-factor. (http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=594) Basic need would be a chassis/backplane/PS and minimal set of CPU/memory/HPIB-controller/terminal-IO PCA, however I'd be interested in simply acquiring a PCA-set and I'll work the chassis/backplane/PS separately. Even single PCAs would give me a helpful push forwards. And I need to stick to my hobby (beer") budget. I'm located in Maryland, USA, and pretty sure that the cost of overseas shipping would be ghastly for a chassis. But maybe not as bad for the tower configuration as for the rack-mount. If I understand correctly, the CPU consists of: 12201A A900 Sequencer Card 12202A A900 Data Path Card 12203A A900 Cache Controller 12204A A900 Memory Controller 12220A 768KB RAM (Or I presume 12103D 1MB, 12221A 3 MB, or 12221B 8 MB.) I imagine that I'll need to synthesize my own OTT "frontplane" for the memory. 12009A HP-IB Controller 12040D Asynchronous Multiplexer interface board Thank you for your insights, and opportunities (I hope), paul (offlist at pbirkel at gmail.com)

6 years, 9 months

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DEC disc pack inspection unit on eBay

by bobalan＠sbcglobal.net

There's a mis-categorized? disk pack inspection unit up on eBay. Might be of use to someone. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-Digital-Equiment-Corp-DEC-Portable-Briefcase… Bob -- Vintage computers and electronics www.dvq.com www.tekmuseum.com www.decmuseum.org

6 years, 9 months

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Possible PUTR bug?

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

John Wilson confirmed that his program was designed to work with one floppy and an HDD. He says strange things happen if one tries to use two floppy drives instead... just as I found ;) I removed the second floppy drive, dug out an old 540 MB hard drive (with Win 95 on it) and hooked it up to the PC. Started Win95, then "Restart the computer in MS-DOS mode", copied PUTR to the C: drive and started it. PUTR now works perfectly, transferring files in both directions to an the emulated RX33 (3.5" floppy). The PDP-11 can read and write those disks on its generic 3.5" floppy "RX33", too. :) Now I just have to figure out the PC partitions/hard drives to make using PUTR as simple as possible.

6 years, 9 months

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Bug in PUTR?

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

I'm having trouble copying files from my PDP-11 (RT-11 format) into an old Windows box using the last version of PUTR. It appears that WinXP does strange things with the hardware (3.5" 1.44 MB drives aren't actually RX33's although my RQDX3 controller believes they are). So I made an MS-DOS boot disk and run PUTR directly on MS-DOS (instead of the WinXP DOS window). Unfortunately MS-DOS 6.22 can't recognize my hard drive since it's NTFS-formatted, so it all has to be done in floppies. Both WinXP and MS-DOS know that A: and B: are two separate drives. Likewise the BIOS settings. I can copy files in DOS and Windows back and forth between the two drives. And I can MOUNT B: as a logical device DU0: (or without a logical device name, as B: /RX33 /RT11), and read its directory. But when I try to copy a file from A: to DU0:, the B: drive light flashes briefly, and then PUTR tries to write over the A: drive (blocked by the write- protect tab once I wised up)! So how on earth can the BIOS, MS-DOS and WinXP all know that A: and B: are two separate drives, but PUTR tries to write to A: even though the command is to write B: ?? I also tried switching the PUTR disk into B: and the RT-11 formatted disk to drive A:. Same problem (tries to write over the source disk which is now B: even though the output filespec is clearly A). I had a look at the code but nothing's leaping out at me. Although it's been many years since I wrote any 8086 code...

6 years, 9 months

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Looking for DEC M7264-CB Troubleshooting Documentation

by vintagecomputersmn＠gmail.com

Hello, As part of my H11A project, I am trying to debug my M7264-CB LSI-11 CPU module. When powered on, the CPU does not respond to the Run/Halt switch either on the front panel or via the console. I found engineering schematics for the M7264 online, but I was wondering if any in depth troubleshooting material existed online (Logic probe points, debugging steps, etc...). Thank You, Gavin

6 years, 9 months

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IBM 1052 keyboardless printer on eBay

by steven＠malikoff.com

Sadly, way out of my price range. I'd dearly love it though: https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-1052-Selectric-Keyboardless-Golf-Ball-Console-… Seems to be missing the 1052 / 2741 platen knobs unique to the printer-keyboards and I/O Selectrics BUT if anyone is interested I have almost finished the CAD model for this (measured from the 2741 platen I still have). They just need to be 3D printed off and the aluminium bosses machined and tapped: http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/IBM_1052_and_2741_platen_knob.jpg Steve.

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Looking for DEC M7264-CB Troubleshooting Documentation

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Mister PDP > the 'Run' light does not come on when the switch is toggled Yeah, it wouldn't come on full unless it somehow fell into a loop of some kind - very unlikely. (Does that model LSI-11 have the on-board memory? I'm too lazy to look it up! :-) And what do you have the CPU jumpered to do on power-up? (ODT, 173000, etc.) But I would expect to see a brief flash. (Note: I don't have an LSI-11 plugged in to check this, I'm going by memory - the -11/23 certainly does the brief flash; if need be, I can pull out an -11/2 and plug it in, once I figure out if they are safe in Q22 backplanes.) I'd check the power voltages, and the clocks on the CPU board, and then look at BSYNC, etc to see if there's any hint that the ODT ucode is trying to read the console registers. No activity on BSYNC -> the ucode's not running. 'Small' QBUS systems - i.e. a single backplane - are OK to run with no termination on the far end of the bus (the CPU board includes pullups for that end), that shouldn't be an issue. Noel

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Looking for DEC M7264-CB Troubleshooting Documentation

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Mister PDP > I was wondering if any in depth troubleshooting material existed online I am not aware of any; I would be glad to be corrected. Unlike the early gneration of UNIBUS CPU's, these generally weren't intended for internal fault analysis and repair - module swapping and replacement was the intended approach. The LSI-11 manual (EK-LSI11-TM-003) has a tiny bit of detail on how the CPU board works (pp. 4-3 - 4-13), it's probably worth reading that before diving into the CPU board internals. Things I'd check to start with - all the power voltages, and then the clocks. If those are all OK... BTW, for any serious fault analysis on these things, you'll need a 'scope/logic analyzer. > When powered on, the CPU does not respond to the Run/Halt switch either > on the front panel or via the console. When you say 'does not respond', what's the symptom? Is the console ODT not running (which could have any number of causes)? The whole system has to be more or less running for ODT to work. I'd start elsewhere - e.g. does your mounting box have the 'run' light? (It's driven by an output of the CPU card.) Does that display any activity? Time to look at e.g. BSYNC, etc to see if the CPU is trying to read/write the console registers. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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PDP-11/40 available, Arizona

by derschjo＠gmail.com

I have no affiliation with the person who owns these items, I'm merely relaying information. These machines were offered to the LCM+L but we've met our 11/40 quota :). We figured someone here might be able to provide a good home, and the seller asked us to pass the offer along. Contact information is below: Email: kristina.kaur at mac.com List of items offered: DEC PDP 11/40 from approx 1973 Other associated equipment may include punch card machine (key punch), tape drive(s), free standing dot matrix printer, terminals (approx. 12). Condition of items: Very good condition. Running or close to running. Most peripherals have been offline and stored. How have these items been used and/or stored?: Running in filtered air. Desert, dry climate. Extent or weight of these items: The DEC PDP is 6-8 cabinets.

6 years, 9 months

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Wanted: SCP-301, Seattle Computer Products 8086 Support Board

by ethan＠757.org

Looking for a SCP-301 S100 board, SCP 8086 Support Board. Have the CPU board. Any leads appreciated! -- : Ethan O'Toole

6 years, 9 months

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Greetings

by cctalk＠gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net

On 4/28/19 6:27 PM, Ray Jewhurst wrote: > I already have a Hobbyist License.? I am just interested in > experimenting with different OSes and different versions of OSes. ACK I don't know what VAX hardware VMS 1.5 supported, what VAX hardware that Simh supports, or what the overlap is between the two. There's a reasonable chance that someone will chime in with experience. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

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RT-11 doesn't recognize my 3.5" floppy

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

On 06/05/2019 23:38, John Forecast via cctalk wrote: > The release notes on bitsavers indicate that the RX33 was not supported > until RT-11 V5.04. >> On May 6, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Charles via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> wrote: >> >> I have installed an RQDX3 >> But, when I boot the system (with RT-11SJ V5.01), it can't see the drive >> at all. Not only was the RX33 not supported until 5.04, there's a bug in the MSCP DU driver that wasn't fixed until 5.03 (IIRC) or maybe 5.04, which means nothing on an RQDX3 can be guaranteed to work properly before that. It caused me a lot of grief, way back in 1994. See the files at http://www.dunnington.info/public/RQDX/ and particularly http://www.dunnington.info/public/RQDX/DUX.TXT if you're interested. -- Pete Pete Turnbull ========================================================================= thanks for the additional info. Will check out the links. Meanwhile, I found an RK05 image of RT-11 "5.4" on bitsavers, made an RL02 bootable -SJ image on SIMH, then copied it over to the hardware with VTserver. (I didn't have to wait for the entire 10 MB since the contents were all on the first 3 MB anyway and no bad blocks). The system booted up to a 5.04 prompt and DU0: is fully usable with 2382 blocks on a 3.5" diskette :) My TSX+ 6.50 copy also didn't have DU enabled in TSGEN.MAC so I had to uncomment that DEVDEF line and reassemble/relink. It's SLOW on my 11/23+... we're spoiled with GHz PC's and GB of RAM. Now I can use the floppy under TSX+ too. But the generic 3.5" drive in my WinXP box can't successfully emulate an 3.5" RX33 with PUTR, apparently. (Nor an RX23). I only get read/write/directory errors after several seconds of head activity even with /RX33 and /RT11 switches set. Time for more reading and maybe drive swapping/tweaking...

6 years, 9 months

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VMS versions

by raywjewhurst＠gmail.com

Does anyone know if there is a comprehensive list of changes from version to version for VMS? Wikipedia's list only shows the models that were introduced and I am more interested in the evolution of features. If anyone knows a website that shows this it would be much appreciated. Thanks Ray

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RT-11 doesn't recognize my 3.5" floppy

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

On 05/07/2019 11:15 AM, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Very interesting , now that you got it to work, what can you use it for? > Will it be an exchange media with PUTR? > > Doug > > On 5/6/2019 6:20 PM, Charles via cctalk wrote: >> I have installed an RQDX3 and the M9058 distribution board in my >> 11/23+. Since I don't have a 5.25" drive yet, I hooked up a 3.5" HD >> (1.44 MB) drive from an old PC. >> After a struggle (which I documented on VCFED's DEC forum), I managed >> to get all the jumpers and cables set correctly, and now my XXDP >> diagnostics (ZRQA?? ... ZRQF??) recognize the drive as an RX33 (DU0:, >> logical drive 0 since no hard disks are attached). It passes all the >> tests, and I can INIT, DIR, and copy files to it using the limited OS >> with the XXDP suite. The LED on the RQDX3 blinks once when the drive >> is accessed. So far so good. >> Did you actually test the drive by formatting, reading and writing? >> But, when I boot the system (with RT-11SJ V5.01), it can't see the >> drive at all. Attempts to access it result in the command hanging >> indefinitely, the drive does not select, and the RQDX3 lamp flashes >> rapidly. SHOW DEV:DU does say that the handler is installed for the >> correct 172150, 154 location. However, SHOW DEV:DUn where n=[0..3] >> displays two blank lines then back to the dot prompt. >> >> Is my version of RT-11 just too old to recognize an RX-33? If so, >> what do I need to fix this? Presumably a later DU.SYS? >> Thanks for any help. Most of my experience is with PDP-8's so this is >> slow going... >> -Charles >> > RT11V5 works for me using RQDX3 and the distribution board in the BA23 box assembled as a MicroPDP-11 with RX33 and RD52 (Quantum 31mb). Never thought much about it other than to make sure the RX33 was jumpers were correct and making a dummy panel for the smaller than RX50 drive. The 11/73 system has the RQDX3 and the signal distribution board (m8058) out of BA123 to hook up RD52, RX33, RX23 and never had issues due to addressing devices under RT11. Is it possible you have a interrupt grant gap between the various boards and the RQDX? That would cause a hang. If you successful it makes using PUTR easier though RX50 works for that too just smaller. =============================================================================== Not a hardware or installation problem (once I got everything hooked up right, that is)... As another member helpfully pointed out, 5.04 is the first version of RT11 that supports RX33. I have 5.01 on my TSX+ RL02 pack. Once I booted with an RT11XM 5.04 disk, I can format, read and write the floppy :) Now I have to figure out how to upgrade to RT11SJ 5.04 or later without bombing the contents of the RL02. Remaking a pack with VTserver is a pain. Yes, the plan is to use PUTR on an old Windows box that I use with my PDP's. I'll probably use Front Panel Express to make a nice rack panel for a 3.5" and a 5.25" drive, instead of having the bare drive sit on top of the RL02 in the corporate cabinet ;)

6 years, 9 months

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IBM 4506 Digital TV display unit (System 360 peripheral)

by steven＠malikoff.com

I was going through some items of my fathers-in-law and found a photocopy of a 1972 conference paper that mentions the IBM 4506 Digital TV display unit being used by reporters and editors at the New York Times. These and other terminals (2741 I/O selectric, 2265 VDU) were connected to a 360/40. Apparently they could take a TV camera input as well as output from the Mod 40, and had a keyboard. I found the article pdf online, it was 'System quality through structured programming' by FT Baker, 1972 at https://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/afips/1972/5080/00/50800339.pdf My google-fu hasn't found any picture of the IBM 4506 or even a reference outside this article, and I'm mildly curious as to what they looked like. Anyone? Steve.

6 years, 9 months

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MPE versions

by couryhouse＠aol.com

I? ?remember? giving the database? some? w/? ?Orley? Larson? ?in Brighton UK? when I was there? giving? invited? paper on? FORUM/USA.... ---Ed Sharpe In a message dated 5/7/2019 1:35:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at classiccmp.org writes: Thanks for the awareness. TurboImage Release History - get it while available!https://support.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c020… Keven Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank McConnell via cctech" <cctech at classiccmp.org>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>Sent: Mon 06 May 2019 05:02 PMSubject: Re: VMS versions On May 6, 2019, at 15:48, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:>> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 5:17 PM Zane Healy <healyzh at avanthar.com> wrote:>>>> It would be nice to see this through 8.4-2L1 (I think that?s the latest>> version).>>>> Zane>>>> There used to be an article about OpenVMS release history, naturally it's > been wiped. Likewise, there used to be an article about MPE release history.? Links I know for it are: <http://community.hpe.com/t5/General/MPE-Release-History/td-p/4075425> (20 Aug 2014)<http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/General/MPE-Release-History/td-p/4075425> (28 Apr 2016) Naturally it?s been wiped, and archive.org *doesn?t* have a copy, even though they have other pages under that t5/General directory in both cases. -Frank McConnell

6 years, 9 months

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VCF Southeast Photos

by silent700＠gmail.com

Last weekend I made an unannounced visit out to Roswell, GA to visit our brothers-and-sisters-in-hoarding at the Vintage Computer Festival Southeast. They were hosted by the new location of the Computer Museum of America, not yet open to the public. The show was a solid representation of the hobby, with a wide range of micros, minis and workstations as well as a few calculators and computing ephemera. On the museum side, I've never seen so many Crays in once place - and they're not even done yet! Here is my photo set: https://photos.app.goo.gl/aiKGadREX511xeUt5 (contains computers, computer collectors and one giant rabbit) Big thanks to Earl and the gang for putting on another great VCF and showing me that southern hospitality. More VCF Midwest news coming soon! -j

6 years, 9 months

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MPE release history (was: Re: VMS versions)

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: R. Stricklin > I saved a copy in 2012. ... Grab them while you still can. The tendency of links to go bad is momumental; the probability of it happening over long time periods seems to asymtotically approach 1.0. So everyone ought to make a habit of down-loading a copy of anything they have an interest in; the existence of multiple copies seems to be the best safeguard that material will not be lost. Noel

6 years, 9 months

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LA50 and Computest Docs wanted

by ard.p850ug1＠gmail.com

Firstly, does anyone have the printset (schematic) for the DEC LA50 printer? It's not on Bitsavers and I can't find it anywhere else. Secondly (and more interesting/less likely to be known) I have a thing here called a 'Computest 3020'. It seems to be a luggable data logger. A case, very deep from front to back, with a carrying handle. The front hinges down and contains a keyboard, this reveals a monochrome monitor (about 9" diagonal CRT) and a pair of half-height 5.25" Teac floppy drives. Inside there's a logic board that slides in from the back. It contains a Z80A, boot ROM, 64K DRAM, a pair of 8251 USARTs (oddly, only one is brought out to a connector, there is a single DB25 on the back), Intel 8276 video chip, Western Digital FDC (I think 2797, but don't quote me!) etc. It plugs in on what seems to be separate sets of edge fingers for the floppy drives, keyboard, monitor and a 50 wire link to the motherboard that is located above this logic board. The motherboard has 8 edge connectors for '64 channel switch' PCBs (look to be analogue multiplexers, full of 4052s), a 'measurement PCB' (ADC, etc) and a 'control PCB' which I think is to control the thing you are taking measurements from, it has 3 DE9 connectors). Anyway, I can't find anything about it with Google. Manuals would be useful the software disks (which I don't have) even more so. -tony

6 years, 9 months

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RT-11 doesn't recognize my 3.5" floppy

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

I have installed an RQDX3 and the M9058 distribution board in my 11/23+. Since I don't have a 5.25" drive yet, I hooked up a 3.5" HD (1.44 MB) drive >from an old PC. After a struggle (which I documented on VCFED's DEC forum), I managed to get all the jumpers and cables set correctly, and now my XXDP diagnostics (ZRQA?? ... ZRQF??) recognize the drive as an RX33 (DU0:, logical drive 0 since no hard disks are attached). It passes all the tests, and I can INIT, DIR, and copy files to it using the limited OS with the XXDP suite. The LED on the RQDX3 blinks once when the drive is accessed. So far so good. But, when I boot the system (with RT-11SJ V5.01), it can't see the drive at all. Attempts to access it result in the command hanging indefinitely, the drive does not select, and the RQDX3 lamp flashes rapidly. SHOW DEV:DU does say that the handler is installed for the correct 172150, 154 location. However, SHOW DEV:DUn where n=[0..3] displays two blank lines then back to the dot prompt. Is my version of RT-11 just too old to recognize an RX-33? If so, what do I need to fix this? Presumably a later DU.SYS? Thanks for any help. Most of my experience is with PDP-8's so this is slow going... -Charles

6 years, 9 months

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RCA Spectra 70 manuals on Ebay

by mattislind＠gmail.com

Maybe of interest to someone? I didn't find the Cobol manual on Bitsavers. https://www.ebay.com/itm/372663250835

6 years, 10 months

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PM2390 Clock and Sector writer

by anders.k.nelson＠gmail.com

Found on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/223506026636 I suppose Kyroflux and other open-source hardware/software combos can do the same thing? -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com

6 years, 10 months

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1A ESS track writer

by aek＠bitsavers.org

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223506026636 If anyone happens to have a (probably) late model 1A ESS laying around. Note the late 80's date stamps.

6 years, 10 months

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Old CE manuals

by cctalk＠emailtoilet.com

I sent a mail to Al at aek at bitsavers.org on 4/11 regarding a bunch of IBM manuals. http://www.myimagecollection.com/manuals/ Never heard back so they went into the trash. These manuals are decades older so I don't want to trash them. If Al jumps in here, fine. He can get them. Otherwise, based on timing, Bob gets them. Donald

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