- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by robert＠irrelevant.com

Hi All. I've been quiet for far too long on this list. Had set myself to no-mail because of lack of time.... back now. Recently, I've been setting up www.viewdata.org.uk to try and remember and resurrect as much of the old BT Prestel and other period viewdata systems as I can. (For those who don't know, viewdata was a 1970s British Post Office (Later British Telecom) invention that allowed subscribers to access news, information, email, downloadable software, chatlines, etc etc. All in a 40x25 display with colour and block graphics. It was big in the 1980s, and gone by 1994... Minitel in france was a derivation, and apart from some specialist closed-access applications, about the only example that survives.) anyway... I've found somebody that has an archive of their pages from Prestel, and we'd both liketo get them up on the site. The snag, for me, is that a lot of it is on 8" discs, from a Technologics(?) system. The photographs of the discs I have seen show them labelled as 48tpi, soft sectored. The positive point is that he still has the original computer, but "it's not been switched on for 20 years" so I'm hesitant on telling him to try it...! So. Is there anybody in the UK (Birmingham or Manchester areas) that has facilities to read 8" discs and drop the contents (straight sector by sector image would be fine if it's not in a common format) onto some more modern media? Or someone who knows about old Technologics machines (I'd not heard of it before.) and can check this one out.. Failing all that.. anybody got a spare drive that I might be able to link up to a machine I do have? (PCs and Acorn machines). Thanks in advance! Rob.

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Small C, was ... Re: Algol vs Fortran was RE: VHDL vs Verilog

by emu＠e-bbes.com

Ben wrote: > e.stiebler wrote: >> Ben wrote: >>> PS. The only small portable compiler I can find >>> is Small C - version 1.0. >> >> For the iapx432 ? >> > no... for a small machine Z80/6809 ect. Hmm time to change the subject > line. OK, I just did ;-) > How did that work back then to get software created for a new machine? > 8080's had PLM compiled on a VAX or something along the same lines. > Ben. Are you looking for a native or cross compiler ? native : z80 : use cp/m, 6809 cubix ? cross : to many to count ;-) But I remember our first z80 software was developed on a VAX ...

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6809 SBC

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 4:59 -0600 1/31/10, CSquared wrote: > All this discussion is making me want a >CoCo unfortunately. Never had one when they were "new" but always >thought they would be a lot of fun - maybe a garage sale will turn one >up some day. If you don't mind spending a bit, http://www.cloud9tech.com/ might be a useful alternative to eBay. Refurbished CoCo3's are among the other goodies on the site. For the "power user", you can get 512k memory expansions, a serial link to your PC to use as disk storage ("Drivewire"), NitOS-9 in ROM, 6309 CPU upgrade, IDE or SCSI adaptors, etc. etc. No connection other than as a satisfied customer. Hope this helps ... >Just what I don't need of course - yet another project or >piece of hardware. ... Oops. ;-) -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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6809 SBC

by wbblair3＠yahoo.com

Having learned assembly language programming on the beautifully simple architecture and instruction set of the 6800, the Byte magazine article linked to below that I read when it was originally published really impressed me. In the 6809 they made one of the earliest efforts I know of to really tweak an already great uP instruction set based upon an analysis of existing software: http://tlindner.macmess.org/?page_id=119

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Available : VAX/VMS book

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

For $10 + postage VAX/ VMS Internals & Data structures by Ruth E. Goldberg & Lawrence J. Kenah. Note : item in in the Netherlands, book weights about 4 pounds. -- Dit is een HTML vrije email / This is an HTML free email.

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Looking for: Dauphin DTR-1 Floppy

by derschjo＠mail.msu.edu

A number of DTR-1s have been showing up on eBay recently (cheap) so I decided to snag one. (I really wanted one when they were new but my salary as a 15 year old prevented such a thing from happening...) As an additional aside, it's one of few devices that used the HP Kittyhawk drive (a 1.3" 40mb drive). Quite a marvel of engineering in 1993... Anyway, the specimen I obtained works fine (need to rebuild the battery) but lacks the external floppy drive. So my only real option for getting software on the machine is over the serial port, which is a a bit annoying (and also precludes installing a new OS on it..) Anyone have any spares? Thanks, Josh

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Vintage Pertec 10 data recorder tape drive - $50 (Graigslist Oxnard, CA)

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Not mine: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/sys/1590090200.html

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Honeywell 316 on govliquidation

by pmille2＠cox.net

Got any info on the Honeywell 316 station ? Thanks E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14270 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

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Moving "Sale". Lots of free stuff for pickup, SF Bay Area

by sethm＠loomcom.com

Folks, I'm moving in a month, and I desperately need to unload a lot of stuff. All items are located in Union City, California (Just north of Fremont, south of Hayward, in the San Francisco Bay Area). I'm very sorry, but I will not even *consider* shipping anything. I just don't have the time, I'm in full-on crunch mode at work as well as prepping for the move. All of this stuff is PICK-UP ONLY, first-come, first-serve. Most stuff is free, some things have a very small price. Prices are firm. All items are listed here: http://www.loomcom.com/movingsale/ If an item is claimed, I will remove it from the list as soon as I can get to it!! Quick-view list of what's on the page, for the impatient: * Macintosh IIsi * Apple CD 300 * PowerBook 1400c * Apple ImageWriter II * NeXTstation Turbo Color * DECwriter LA12 (Correspondant) Ribbons * DECstation 5000/240 * DECstation 5000/133 * DECstation 3100 * VAXstation 3100 m76 * SGI Indigo 2 Extreme * SGI Indy * AT&T Unix PC * TI 99/4a and box of software * TI Silent 700 Model 780 * TI Silent 700 Model 745 * Atari 800 * Panasonic KX-D4929 Printing Terminal * TRS-80 PT-210 Thermal Printing Terminal * TRS-80 Model 100 Laptop I may make another page for "Part II" if part 1 goes well. Whatever's not claimed will end up going to Weird Stuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale. -Seth

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PDF files for Matrox Qbus QRGB boards

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

In case anyone is interested, I sent Al Kossow the (PDF) manuals for the Qbus Matrox QRGB-Alpha and QRGB-Graph boards. He did not respond to or acknowledge my e-mail. In addition, the PDF manuals are still not available at bitsavers. Al, if you are reading this, did you discard my e-mail? If you are interested, I can send the e-mail again. I have other manuals as well. If anyone needs these manuals immediately, I can e-mail them to you. They are 13 MB. If you can not accept an e-mail that size, I can break the e-mail into two parts. Evidently, Glen Herrmannsfeldt scanned these manuals. He also sent them to me. The e-mail from Glen with the manuals arrived after Lou Ernst mentioned that Glen probably had the manuals, but had not scanned them at the time (a few years) ago. After I reminded Glen, he sent to to me. THANK YOU to both Lou and Glen. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

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The Virtual Revolution (History Of The Internet)

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, I wasn't going to send out an email about this, but I thought the 2nd episode was just as good as the first one, so here I am :) In short, the programme (airing BBC2, UK, around 8:15pm Saturdays) The Virtual Revolution looks at the history of the internet (US Military, ARPAnet, The Well etc.) and it's influence on modern life (hackers, terrorists, social networking etc.). The official site can be found here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/virtualrevolution/ Video's of some of the interviewees (including Tim Berners-Lee and Peter Thiel) can be found here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/virtualrevolution/interviews.shtml A whole host of computers have been seen (for a few seconds) on the programme, including an Altair 8080 and a PDP-10. Some short clips of the programme can be found on YouTube. All of episode 2 can be found on BBC IPlayer here (for the next 7 days only): http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qsbvv/The_Virtual_Revolution_Enemy_… The whole show is 654MB (about 55 minutes long), if you wish to download it. Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

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Kittyhawk drives (was Re: Looking for: Dauphin DTR-1 Floppy)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: > On Feb 5, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >> >> As an additional aside, it's one of few devices that used the HP Kittyhawk >> drive (a 1.3" 40mb drive). ?Quite a marvel of engineering in 1993... > > ?I have several of the 20MB Kittyhawks and a single 40MB unit. I have a couple of 20MB Kittyhawks. The place was out of stock on 40MB units when I found them. >?I've done a > bit of hacking on them with home-brew SBCs. ?They are a little weird in some > ways, but they're really neat, I like them. Yep. I hooked mine to an IDE-64. Quite portable. -ethan

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a work in progress, and why I haven't been around here much...

by rtellason＠verizon.net

Have a look here: http://mysite.verizon.net/rtellason/nancy.html and you'll see what's been keeping me occupied for the better part of the past year or so... The page is still a work in progress, I need to add some pictures at some point. The worst is over, and it's time for me to move forward, including plowing through a really absurd number of posts in this folder. One other thing I'll mention in passing, a new friend, also widowed, has an H-8 computer system to deal with, I told her that I knew just the place to find someone who would be interested in it. I have no details on it at the moment, though I've seen it. I also told her that just powering it up was probably *not* a good plan at this point since it's been sitting for a number of years unused... Any of you guys interested in it, feel free to contact me off-list. Onward... -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

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PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT OF A THREAD (Was RE: cctalk Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3)

by thomas.gardner＠sbcglobal.net

See what I mean (from Issue 10) > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Tony Duell) > 2. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Chuck Guzis) > 4. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Dave McGuire) > 5. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Chuck Guzis) > 6. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Dave McGuire) > 7. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Ethan Dicks) > 8. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Chuck Guzis) > 9. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Ben) > 10. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (allison) > 11. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Tony Duell) > 13. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Tony Duell) > 14. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Dave McGuire) > 15. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Dave McGuire) > 16. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Dave McGuire) > 17. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Chuck Guzis) > 18. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Chuck Guzis) > 19. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Dave McGuire) > 20. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Chuck Guzis) > 21. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Dave McGuire) > 23. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Ethan Dicks) > 24. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Chuck Guzis) > 25. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Dave McGuire) > 29. Re: cctech Digest, Vol 78, Issue 3 (Ben) Tom

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Free SGI Onyx2 in Linköping Sweden

by pontus＠Update.UU.SE

Hi This is a longshot, if you can make it to link?ping with a truck within two weeks, I can probably hook you up with 4 racks worth of SGI Onyx2. /Pontus.

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Poly8813 on ebay

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

> > >> > From: dwight elvey >> > >> > Hi >> > I thought I'd mention that there is a Poly 8813 ( actually a 8812 ) >> > on ebay. >> > > > I tend to think his asking price ($8000) is WAY too high in spite of the > condition since it doesn't include any docs or disks. But if anyone > decides to buy it, I can supply a copy of the manuals and other board > documentation if they aren't already online. > > The 8812 is not the original and much rarer Polymorphic Micro-Altair, later called Poly-88. Those came out in 1976 and might fetch $8000. The 8813 series were advertised into early 1979 and are worth more like $400-600 at best, in unknown condition. Bill

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OT: identifying radio coils

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I was wondering if anyone has an Alenco 108TK am/fm radio kit and knows the specs of the coils in that kit. I'm tinkering about with replicating that kit as a small PCB to be put into a wooden cabinet. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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DOS Widgets

by dave09＠dunfield.com

Not many DOSheads left (I still have a DOS machine on my desk which I use daily), but perhaps someone will still benefit from this... FWIW - I've started to catalog and post some of the various widgets I've created for DOS over the years. Items range from trivial utilities to fairly complex packages. Some of these were commercial packages that I once sold mail-order (and later the web), while others are just things I put together for my own use. I'm not sure if/where I'll post it permanantly, however for now I've put a link at the bottom of "Dave's old computers" - Enjoy. Dave -- dave09 (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html

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Poly8813 on ebay

by marvin＠west.net

> The 8812 is not the original and much rarer Polymorphic Micro-Altair, > later called Poly-88. Those came out in 1976 and might fetch $8000. > The 8813 series were advertised into early 1979 and are worth more like > $400-600 at best, in unknown condition. > > Bill The 8812 is the same as the 8813 with the exception of it only having two disk drives. Re: the Micro-Altair. The story I've heard is that the Poly88 was originally named the Micro-Altair, but the name was changed because of objections from MITS. I've talked to a number of people who used to work at Polymorphic trying to find out if the Micro-Altair actually existed as a physical product. To date, I haven't found anyone who has said the Micro-Altair actually existed. FWIW as I've mentioned from time to time, I probably have the largest collection of Poly documentation left as well as stuff I've never heard of before. When Poly shut down, they put all of their stuff that was left in storage. A friend of mine knew the owner and acquired a lot of it, and gave it to me. One of my many todo projects is to get this stuff saved as it includes source code and manuals for most of their products. There is a little over one full filing cabinet full of docs in addition to several boxes of parts. Something that I find fascinating is one of their business plans after Poly had a change in management about 1981 as it includes flyers and information about their then current product line.

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Data I/O System 20B MOS Memory Programmer

by technobug＠comcast.net

I just was given the above named beast and a search of the usual places produces nil. Anyone have any info or manuals on this item? CRC

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Looking for StorageTek 2500 series 9T tape drive parts.

by rollerton＠gmail.com

I have 4 Storage Tek 2500 series drives on my Sigma 9 that we are working on and hope to get two of them into service. I need to find replacement belts that drive the two air pumps. They are narrow modern looking things maybe 1/4" wide and shaped like a space age vbelt, I don't have the parts books with me, but my question is more a general one; Any one know of a source for spare parts for old Storagetek drives? Thanks. Oh, and any of you Sigma folks out there, contact me off the list if you like. Bob.

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Check out my photos on Facebook

by invite+o9t=o2s9＠facebookmail.com

Hi General, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Kirn To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1311167334&k=Z3D4XXPXVZTAYDEHUGYX2USUVWFJ4Y… Already have an account? Add this email address to your account http://www.facebook.com/n/?merge_accounts.php&e=cctalk at classiccmp.org&c=d0f9a7ae1532f1dd68a5f13e3639f925.cctalk at classiccmp.org was invited to join Facebook by Kirn Gill. If you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the future, please click on the link below to unsubscribe. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=0fd83c&u=666184564&mid=1d45020G27b52b74G0G8 Facebook's offices are located at 1601 S. California Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94304.

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Editor religious wars (was Re: Museums)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On 1/25/10, Doc Shipley <doc at vaxen.net> wrote: > emacs would be an awesome operating system, if it had a decent text editor.... It does... M-x viper-mode *ducks and runs* -ethan

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Free for pickup

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Of the items I posted earlier, the following is still available: Qty 2 - HP Laserjet IIIP Printers Box of Misc Network Adapter cards, ISA mixed 8 and 16 bit. Mostly 16 bit. All are Novell, Windows 3.x, Windows 95 and Lantastic Compatible. I have the following to add: 1 ZIP 100 Drive and Power Supply 1 Ditto Tape Backup Drive (Not sure if it still works due to age of rubber rollers) 1 Apple Imagewriter II Items are located in Keansburg, NJ 07734 Contact me off-list via PM. Thanks! Al Hartman

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New PDP 11/34

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

Hi, A PDP11/34 has just arrived... I need some basic help before I'll power it on. The description of the current setup can be seen there : http://www.conservatique.com/pdp/pdp-1134?. 1- There is 2 wires cable coming out the front panel, pins TB1/TB2, which goes to the rear of the box, towards the power supply. From the schematics Fig 9-5 (p64): http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.bi… this cable should go to a M9301 ? What if I don't have a M9301? Is there a M9301 Boostrap/Terminator Maintenance Manual available somewhere by any chance? 2- How can I test the power supply? I don't see any voltage control points, I couldn't find how I can?access?to the boards under the transformer. If anyone has the following boards for sale/trade, please drop me a mail: - a M9301 ! - any memory which can fit (MOS or CORE). I have some 11/70 core modules for trade I think ;-) Thanks! -- Stephane http://DECpicted.blogspot.com

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Looking for TRS-80 Model I Keyboard unit...

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

During my recent move, my Model I took a tumble and has a broken case and keyboard. I'm not even going to try to power it on until we can look it over carefully. I'm looking for a donor unit that can contribute a bottom case and keyboard with keypad. The logic board does not have to be working, and no power supply is needed. If someone has such a unit, or can point me to someone I can buy a new keyboard from, I'd be most appreciative. Al Hartman Keansburg, NJ

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Selling Calcomp 565 plotter

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 22:10 -0600 2/2/10, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >I'm going to go ahead and finish this thread: anyone who doesn't use a Mac >is Hitler and Windows users are Nazis, etc. ROFLMAO! This may become a .sig on my email program, for classic-cmp replies at least. Well done, Sir! -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

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Poly8813 on ebay

by marvin＠west.net

> From: dwight elvey > > Hi > I thought I'd mention that there is a Poly 8813 ( actually a 8812 ) > on ebay. One of the pictures shows me with a working machine > but the machine on ebay is not my machine ( although it might > be thought as being mine ). It is one of the two machine that mine > was one of that is mentioned on one of the web pages and serial > numbers. I tend to think his asking price ($8000) is WAY too high in spite of the condition since it doesn't include any docs or disks. But if anyone decides to buy it, I can supply a copy of the manuals and other board documentation if they aren't already online. But for a mere $4000, I'd be more than happy to provide a working Poly 8813 (not 8812) with documentation and boot disks as I currently have at least two :). And for a mere $4000, I can do the same with a working Poly 88 AKA the Orange Toaster :) as I currently have maybe four or five. FWIW, only two Polymorphic items have closed on ebay in the last 90 days; a set of four Poly S-100 boards (two memory boards, CPU, and ???) at $225.00 and a Poly 88 flyer at $9.99 not sold. I love ebay (NOT) :). Marvin

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Available: IBM Displaywriter in Weldon, NC

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Not my system, please contact Margaret if interested: > I have an IBM Displaywriter I purchased in 1983. > The Displaywriter still works and has a Selectric Printer. > I also have all eleven "Dick and Jane" instruction manuals > That came with the machine. > > mhofmann at 3rddoor.com > > Not my system, please contact Margaret if interested ^^ I believe that she wishes to donate it.

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off topic: video processing for quality picture reasons from SD source.

by jpero＠sympatico.ca

Hi anyone, I have been researching and trying some softwaresolutions and hardware with poor success and output to a 1080 LCD TV (high end) thus bypassing the TV's scaler and display direct without processing. Canada still do SD stuff till Aug 12 20011 HDTV switch over. flat panel TVs with built in tuner do rather hack job of SD video that I knew these should do good job. Ditto with composite and s-video. But there is bit of unique issues that will be addressed below. I have tried three video capture cards and software solutions, constant fussing and long start up, average picture quality, tend to be darker. And second issue is EIA608 is closed caption (CC) decoding for SD and displaying does not exist or erratic working in many software and hardware. I already tried a JVC HM-DT100U and it has tuner and output on component or HDMI but internal video processing for SD is not up to standard and as bad as youtube quality with heavy artifacts. Video processors, DVDO Edge does not have CC capability. I sent email to Anchor Bay Tech of their product and they do not implement this at all. If it was, that would be end of the story and bought the 800 buck video processor. But I'm still not sure of their quality. So I still exploring options and thinking of solutions. I intend to use a old S-VHS VCR as tuner and output on S-video. I have not found a decent a device that has high quality processing and output on HDMI or all analog circuitry and output on component to take advantage of higher quality A/D coverters found in TVs than composite or s-video. Options: 1. Buy DVDO Edge and s-video CC decoder. But I'm not sure on DVDO Edge's performance. 2. Buy up broadcaster quality equipment: Obtain RF demodulator (channel selectable via keypad or remote control of some type (remote or PC) with SDI output box (some can deal with CC onboard which is nice), or same idea except output on component if there's one. If it is SDI output and no CC, buy SDI CC decoder with CC overlay box, and get Blackmagic Design's "Monitoring HDLink Pro DVI" to hook all up. I have found one or two on some of these but cost for new one is way over 2,000 to 5,000. Ouch. Used source is best option but where to go? I tried broadcasting engineering forum and smartcow both does not address what I'm trying to find and get suggestions. Another reason I really like broadcaster equipment concept is these have deep bandwidth and little processing (selectively is good) and easily plugs together, setup and forget it, just punch in channels. I'm that fussy. CRT on SD quality is excellent and I use cable, built in video processors in TV threw away too much, soften and lose details to brother me so much enough to get me in a tizzy. I know broadcaster digitize all in and out feeds but quality is much higher. Cheers, Wizard

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For Trade: SGI 4D series boards, memory, etc

by mjohnson＠simconsultants.com

Hi Mark, I know you posted this many years ago but I was wondering if you still have any of the SGI SAMZ audio modules for sale (030-0753-005). Best Regards, Marty Johnson CentraTech Corp

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[Fwd: [BBC-Micro] UK Vintage Computer Festival 2010]

by philpem＠philpem.me.uk

Hi guys, I spotted this on the BBC-Micro mailing list -- figured a few UK-based classiccmp'ers might be interested... It looks like the VCF has finally made its way across the pond. Them ferries sure are slow! :) "David Hunt" <dm.hunt at ntlworld.com> said: > Hi Folks, > > I am involved with the National Museum Of Computing at Bletchley Park and we > have been working hard on bringing the VCF to the UK. We are pleased to > announce the event to take place this June. There will be an emphasis on > British computers. I hope many people from this list and the STH list will > attend the event, it'll be great! > > Cheers > > Dave > > ----------- > > "Britain's largest celebration of vintage computing is to be held at The > National Museum of Computing (TNMOC) in Bletchley Park from 19-20 June 2010. > > Originating ten years ago in California's Silicon Valley, to celebrate our > computing heritage, Vintage Computing Festivals are now regular events held > across the USA and in Germany. The June 2010 event at TNMOC will be the > first in the UK and will pay particular tribute to the British contribution > to the development of computing. > > The festival, which is open to the general public and welcomes private > exhibitors, will have exhibition stands, a full lecture programme, machine > demonstrations, computer games and challenges, bring-and-buy sale, and > performances of electronic music. > > Kevin Murrell, VCF co-ordinator and a trustee and director of TNMOC said: > "The enthusiasm for this festival is already remarkable and we have only > just started to publicise the event. The historic and spacious setting of > Bletchley Park is perfect for the event - and with The National Museum of > Computing on the same site, it will surely draw visitors from overseas as > well as from across Britain. With visitor numbers expected to exceed one > thousand, the Festival offers a great opportunity for potential sponsors." > > Exhibitions already committed include Acorn, Amiga, Atari, PDP11, Retro > Computer Museum, Sinclair, and Sundown Demoparty. There will be performances > by Pixelh8 and a guest appearance by one of the pioneers of British > synthpop. > > Lots more will be announced soon. To keep up-to-date, see www.vcf-gb.org. > > For general enquiries and to join the mailing list, email Simon Hewitt/Kevin > Murrell at vcf at tnmoc.org. > > Potential sponsors should contact Kevin Murrell of TNMOC at > kevin.murrell at tnmoc.org. > > Media and PR enquiries please contact Stephen Fleming of Palam > Communications at sfleming at palam.co.uk. -- Phil. philpem at philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/

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IBM PCAM info needed

by bmachacek＠pcisys.net

Hi, I am applying to the VA for disability benefits based on a hearing problem that occurred while I was in the Air Force (early '60s). I worked in a very noisy PCAM room with lots of IBM 407s, repro punched card machines, and sorters. I have been trying to find articles or people who can verify these machines were sufficiently noisy to cause hearing problems. The VA turned down my first basic request, so now I need more details in just how loud these machines were. I know we have quite a few "old timers" on this board and I'm hoping someone can help me find the information I'm looking for. Let me know offline the names of any books, magazines or people that I may look for or contact concerning this issue or if you know of any websites that may contain this information. This note may not be quite "on topic", but I've run out of places to look for this information. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.... Bill Machacek Colo. Springs, CO bmachacek at pcisys.net

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pdp11 bus - how long can it go?

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

As I slowly dig into "my" new 11/34A, I'm amazed by the bus configuration. Starting from the CPU, the main BA11 chassis has a double (9-slot) system unit, joined to a single (4-slot) SU by an?M9202 jumper. From the last slot in the chassis, a Unibus cable runs to a junction block on the cabinet back door. A second cable runs from there to a remote BA11, also with 2 SUs. A third cable runs back to the rack door/junction block (labled "bus station", BTW) and finally a fourth cable runs to a small rack mounted I/O box with a single SU and?an M9302 terminator in the last slot. Cable runs must be about 20-25 feet total. At first, I was worried that the length was too long (though it was a working system in use for several years) but after a quick websearch (www.psych.usyd.edu/pdp-11/unibus.html), I see that the bus can be up to FIFTY FEET before a repeater is needed. My short term plan is to pull all the cables and move the 9302 into the system box for testing. Now I'm worried that the bus might be too short - do I need to look for one of the "new" jumpers with two feet of cable or should it work with my old M9202 jumper block? Jack

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Classic Epson printer emulators

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

I haven't seen one but its not difficult to write one for yourself. I had one for H.P. RTL which we used for testing our large format printer drivers a few years ago. I think I still have an Epson manual which summarises their different small printer command codes I could copy, if you fancy writing something. I don't know if there is a collection of printer and plotter manuals online anywhere. BitSavers seems very light on them, I checked recently to see if I could free up the six feet of shelf space occupied by such manuals at my office but no such luck, so I will have to keep hold of them for now. Al seems to be snowed under at the moment, I scanned and sent him the ICT1301 programmers reference manual 12 months ago but it has not appeared yet. Roger. On 31 Jan 2010, at 10:59, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:00:43 -0500 > From: Michael Kerpan <madcrow.maxwell at gmail.com> > Subject: Classic Epson printer emulators? > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Message-ID: > <8dd2d95c1001301000o2b1de736ge2ae894ed58efb94 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Are there any free or open-source programs that can convert raw ESC/P > (Epson printer code) data into bitmap images or PDFs or something? > Many classic home computer programs rely on having a printer of this > sort in order to print, and while many emulators have a way to dump > serial or parallel output to a file, the only interpreters I can find > to turn that raw data into something useful are commercial programs > that I can't really justify the purchase of, given my student > budget... > > Any help on this front would be much appreciated, > Mike

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WW sockets

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

I have a few packs of wire wrap sockets - all 40 pin Texas Instruments - maybe about 45 pieces total. Free for postage from 10512. Inquire off list, please. -- Will

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6809 SBC

by jonas＠otter.se

On 31 Jan 2010 , Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> wrote: >I am really puzzled by this. The ACIA has no hardware reset line, but >it's very easy to send it a master reset command in software. In fact, >you have to do that to clear the hardware reset condition after a power >up, because the ACIA stays in the inactive/reset condition until you >program it. > >Charlie, you weren't using GTE 68C50s, were you? They did have a few >weird bugs. > I seem to remember having to send three consecutive software reset commands to something or other, quite possibly 6850:s, and probably Motorola ones. If you sent only one, the chip did not reset, you had to send three at once. /Jonas

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Reminder for Workshop: Installing CP/M on your S-100 computer , signup begins today Feb.1st

by ragooman＠comcast.net

Reminder: Installing CP/M on your S-100 computer workshop signup begins today Feb.1st For the vintage computer enthusiasts, in conjunction with the MARCH Computer Museum and the Delaware Hackerspace group, we like to invite you to a new workshop this year involving vintage computers. This new workshop is about CP/M and it will teach you how to install, build and configure CP/M on your vintage S-100 computer system. All the necessary steps are shown during the lecture and afterward is a hands-on training session which will let you upgrade your S-100 computer with a floppy disk based system and CP/M. Instruction and lecture will be provided by Rich Cini of the Altair32 emulator project. Please look at the link below about the workshop checklist for a detailed list of requirements about this workshop. You'll need to know what to prepare beforehand to get ready for this workshop. Ask any questions you have about getting ready before the start of the workshop. A knowledge of assembly programming, S-100 hardware, and CP/M operation is required for this workshop. Please do not come unprepared. We currently have seats for 12 workbenches for those who want the hands-on training. An additional 10 seats are available for those who like to watch and learn. If we happen to get more requests for this workshop, we will try to accommodate as many people as possible. This is a first come, first serve event, sorry, but we cannot accommodate latecomers. Once the registration opens, please specify which seat you like to reserve. The workshop is located very close to I-95 for those that are drivng. More information can be found at the Delaware Hackerspace website below. Workshop Checklist - view message thread http://www.vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=310 Address: 103 W. 7th St. Wilmington, DE 19801 Registration opens: Feb. 1st, 2010 Signup deadline: Apr. 1st, 2010 Workshop Date: Apr. 10th, 2010 hours: Sat: 12noon - 7pm SPONSORS: Bill Degnan http://www.vintagecomputer.net/ Delaware Hackerspace http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Delaware_Hackerspace Altair32 emulator project http://www.altair32.com/ MARCH Computer Museum http://www.midatlanticretro.org/ Please send any questions offline. Dan Roganti ragooman at comcast.net see you there ! -- http://www.vintagecomputer.net/ragooman/

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Heurikon HK68/M130 or M140 manuals?

by ken＠seefried.com

Long shot, but would anyone have manuals for the Heurikon HK68/M130 or M140 (or both)? These are pretty nice 680[34]0 based Multibus-1 boards. KJ

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Mentec SBC M70 Usermanual

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

Found during cleanup, a Mentec SBC M70 Usermanual in pristine condition. First edition from November 1st, 1987. It is A4 format with a spiral ring spine and comes >from Dublin, Ireland. Make me an offer off-list. -- Certified : VCP 3.x, SCSI 3.x SCSA S10, SCNA S10 www.groenenberg.net www.witte-kat-batterijen.nl

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Minimig

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was my understanding that the Minimig was only a partial reimplementation of the Amiga 500 hardware. When last I checked the website, which is now down... much work was left to be done to fully implement all the video modes, sprites, collision detection and other parts of the custom chip functionality. I think that floppy support had yet to be implemented, so one had to make images on a real Amiga and transfer them via SDCard to the Minimig. I'd love a modern reimplementation of classic Amiga 1000 - 2000 class hardware. I was following the Minimig until it was sold to another company, and am still following the Natami project. I no longer have an Amiga 500, but will probably look for one in the next few months. I still have a working, though bare Amiga 1000 system. And was recently given an Atari-ST Mega 2 system with hard drive. Since I have that, I'm probably going to be selling the SH502 Atari Drive case (complete except for software and drive, the DMA Cable, power supply, case and ASCSI to SCSI adapter is there) on eBay. My original Jan 1979 TRS-80 Model I took a fall during the move and is now damaged. The case is cracked and is missing chips, and two keys broke off the keypad. I'm not even going to try to apply power to the system until I open it up and check it over carefully. That system has a lot of the mods from "TRS-80 and Other Mysteries" by Dennis Kitsz. It has an Electric Pencil Lowercase mod. The Speedup mod from the book, which automatically throttles down during disk or cassette access, composite out, easily reachable reset switch, built-in Alpha Compatible Joystick port, and an external keyboard port my friend added so we could play 2 player games (He wired up a surplus Coco Chiclet keyboard that Tandy used to sell off the rack, on a long ribbon cable.) I was able to snag an LNW-80 Model I two years ago, but I'd like to get my old system running and setup on a desk in my new house for old-time's sake. Since the LNW will run CP/M besides TRS-DOS compatible OS'es, it would be nice to get it going too. If I spot a Model 4 at a flea someday, I might grab one of those too. I really miss those days. Micros were a lot more fun in the early 80's than they are today. I used to wait for each new issue of 80-Micro with the latest hardware mod, or NewDos zap article with anticipation. Al Hartman Keansburg, NJ

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new non-x86 mobos

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

A couple weeks ago I was grousing about there being nothing in the realm of non x86/amd64 motherboards. I stumbled across something new while looking at the Minimig board: the X1000. Its appears to be a multicore Power of some sort with ideas from the old Amiga machines mixed in. See http://www.a-eon.com/ or http://www.a-eon.com/6.html if you don't want to play the hide-and-seek game. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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Classic Epson printer emulators?

by madcrow.maxwell＠gmail.com

Are there any free or open-source programs that can convert raw ESC/P (Epson printer code) data into bitmap images or PDFs or something? Many classic home computer programs rely on having a printer of this sort in order to print, and while many emulators have a way to dump serial or parallel output to a file, the only interpreters I can find to turn that raw data into something useful are commercial programs that I can't really justify the purchase of, given my student budget... Any help on this front would be much appreciated, Mike

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Free for pickup

by ddsnyder＠zoominternet.net

Oops, forgot to mention my location, Butler, PA, USA, near Pittsburgh, PA On Sun 01/31/10 9:01 PM , Mark Davidson mdavidson1963 at gmail.com sent: If you said this before, I somehow missed it... where are you located? Thanks. Mark On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Daniel Snyder wrote: > Still thinning my vintage stuff.. > Go to http://picasaweb.google.com/DanielDSnyder [2] for a look, category is: Old > stuff looking for a new home > > Available is: > > 1 - Centronics 761 KSR - serial > 1 - Centronics 779 - parallel > 1 - Centronics 781 - serial? > 1 - IBM PS/2 TV - complete > 2 - IBM PS/2 model 30-286 > 1 - IBM PS/2 model 25 B&W > 1 - IBM PS/2 model 50 > 2 - IBM PS/2 model 70 386 & 486 > 1 - IBM PS/2 model 80 with Kingston 486 > 1 - IBM PS/2 B&W monitor > 2 - IBM PS/2 keyboards > > Contact me offine. I really do not want to ship this stuff, but I am willing > to relay > the stuff and at this moment there is no time limit, I am not going to toss > the stuff.. > > Note all items have been stored in my home and have been known to work. I > know for a fact the Centronics printers have been in my home for almost 30 > years. > > I need the space, would like to pass the items to someone else to enjoy.. > whatever > the reason may be, I have narrowed my focus to VAX, Alpha and Integrity > based VMS > boxes. This is one of the few constants in my career in the last 31 years. > > Dan Snyder > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Hartman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:00 AM > Subject: Re: Free for pickup > > >> Of the items I posted earlier, the following is still available: >> >> Qty 2 - HP Laserjet IIIP Printers >> >> Box of Misc Network Adapter cards, ISA mixed 8 and 16 bit. Mostly 16 bit. >> All are Novell, Windows 3.x, Windows 95 and Lantastic Compatible. >> >> I have the following to add: >> >> 1 ZIP 100 Drive and Power Supply >> 1 Ditto Tape Backup Drive (Not sure if it still works due to age of rubber >> rollers) >> 1 Apple Imagewriter II >> >> Items are located in Keansburg, NJ 07734 >> >> Contact me off-list via PM. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Al Hartman >> >> > > Links: ------ [1] mailto:ddsnyder at zoominternet.net [2] https://webmail2.agoc.com/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasaweb.google.… [3] mailto:alhartman at yahoo.com [4] mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org

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6809 SBC

by wbblair3＠yahoo.com

> Tony Duell wrote: > >> Having learned assembly language programming on the beautifully > >> simple architecture and instruction set of the 6800, the Byte magazine > >> article linked to below that I read when it was originally published > >> really impressed me.? In the 6809 they made one of the earliest efforts > >> I know of to really tweak an already great uP instruction set based upon > >> an analysis of existing software: > > > > I found the 6809 to be by far the nicest 8-bit CPU I ever worked with. > > The instruction set was simple and very orthogonal, the fact that you had > > various relative addressing modes meant you could write truely > > position-independant code, there were 2 stack points, and so on. Unlike > > certain chips I could name, there were no major misfeatures that I came > > across. > > > > Of course the problem (as we all know) is that it came out too late. By > > that tine everybody was using the Z80 or 6502. Oh well. > > > > It always suprised me that hre BBC micro used the 6502 rather than the > > 6809. By the time the Beeb was designed, Acorn had made a 6809 processor > > board for their System machines, so they must have had experience with > > the chip. THe Beeb is nice, but a Beeb with a 6809 processor would have > > been something else :-) > > > > -tony > > > When I moved from the 6800 to the 6809 (in assembly language - *many* > years ago) I was sort of astounded and at the same time very pleased by > the way many of the little subroutines I had written for the 6800 became > one instruction in the 6809.? I think it will always be my favorite > 8-bit CPU.? My only annoyance at the time was the fact that there was no > way for the software to reset the companion UART chip, whose number I've > completely forgotten by now.? 6821 maybe??? > Later, > Charlie Carothers I was so impressed I even took a photo of it. A photo of the die of an Atmel EF6809CV is a short way down my page here: http://diephotos.blogspot.com/

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cctalk Digest, Vol 77, Issue 68

by wbblair3＠yahoo.com

> Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: > > William Blair wrote: > > I was so impressed I even took a photo of it.? A photo of the die? > > of an Atmel EF6809CV is a short way down my page here: > > > > http://diephotos.blogspot.com/ > > ???Those images are nothing short of breathtaking. > > ? ? ? ? ???-Dave Thanks. Thousands of people did 99.999% of the job, I just took a photo of their absolutely beautiful and incredibly useful product.

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Free Osborne Stuff

by grant＠stockly.com

I have a 30lb or so box of Osborne manuals and software. I also have a non-working Osborne. The disk drive is probably dirty, it can't read disks. If anyone wants these, they are available for the cost of shipping. International is OK. Let me know ASAP because I want this stuff gone. ^^ Grant

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6809 SBC

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/282094.html Is this article available on-line anywhere? Or do you have a reference to it? It sounds as though it might be worth reading. -tony Hi Tony, there are several related articles here: http://mdfs.net/Software/Tube/6809/ Like I said earlier, I am not familiar with the UK microcomputers but when I was researching how to make a 6809 "host processor"/coprocessor it seems like I found several 6809 coprocessor designs. I think Graham Harston frequently posts on comp.os.cpm and he is a hosting the 6809 information related to the BBC and Acorn computers. None of the designs I found were exactly what I was looking for but there was enough ideas that I could cobble together a working prototype. The N8VEM 6809 host processor appears as an ECB 8255 PPI peripheral to the SBC Z80 and as a 6821 PIA peripheral to the 6809. Whether that was a great design or not remains to be seen although it seems to work well enough that Dan got CUBIX ported and I got ASSIST09 and MINIBUG working. Frankly, I think the 8255 PPI strobe and acknowledge handshaking leaves a lot to be desired compared to the 6821 PIA but neither were exactly cooperative IMO. I like 6809 architecture and personally think it was probably the apex of the 8 bit CPUs and (albeit admitted only begrudgingly) better overall than my beloved Z80. Also I think the 6809 hardware is obviously well thought out as it was amazingly easy to get the breadboard systems working. So far the N8VEM 6809 computer has worked great. It hasn't been terribly popular but I made it mostly because I thought it was neat idea. I can see why people like the 6809 so much. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch, 73 de N8VEM

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MDS User

by r.w.grier＠worldnet.att.net

Hi Joe R. I have a Intellec Series II/III System with a Universal Prom Programmer UPP 103 and I have lost my Eden Engineering Manual for Model EP-710A Ver 2.5 Personality Programming Board, I would like to purchase a copy or If you could scan the few pages so I can set the dip switches for the proper eprom to program on the board. The board uses (2716, 2732, and 2764 Eproms) I'm E-mailing you, because I found you with a web search for Eden Engineering EP-170A which show a list of all your MDS Manuals. If you could help me out, It would be great. Please E-mail me with a cost or what you could do for me. My E-mail r.w.grier at worldnet.att.net Or my Address Robert Grier 36876 Main St. New Balitimore, Mi 48047 Thanks Bob

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HP Connect Membership for Hobbyist VMS Licence

by ddsnyder＠zoominternet.net

>From a posting in c.o.v. - DECUServe is now an official Hobbyist Chapter, and DECUServe subscribers now have OpenVMS Hobbyist benefits. DECUServe provides a friendly platform, primarily using the DEC Notes conferencing system, but also providing a full OpenVMS account. If you don't already have an account on DECUServe (aka Encompasserve aka Eisner.DECUS.org) -- registration is free. To register for DECUServe, just Telnet to decuserve.org (or eisner.decus.org), use username REGISTRATION, and follow the simple instructions. We do appreciate it if you supply true information - and we don't share that information. You will need your "DECUServe Number" to request Hobbyist licenses. You are told that number during the DECUServe registration process (please write it down). Or... To check your DECUServe registration details needed to request Hobbyist Licenses, you can just type $ HOBBYIST. DECUServe transmits membership information to the Hobbyist Program twice weekly. If you have recently registered on DECUServe, please allow time for that transfer and for loading into the Hobbyist database. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:20 PM Subject: HP Connect Membership for Hobbyist VMS Licence >A while back I joined at the most basic membership level of Encompass just > to get access to VMS hobbyist licences as I was not really interested in > any > other benefits. This used to be a free membership. Am I right that now you > need to pay $50 a year to be able to get a hobbyist licence? Is there some > way to avoid this charge? > > Regards > > Rob >

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Free for pickup - one more item

by ddsnyder＠zoominternet.net

One more item as shown in the photos. A NEC 8500 thimble writer with tractor and bin sheet feeder. Spare ribbons and thimbles as well as interface cartridges for serial and parallel ports.

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ISO HP-UX 9.10 install CD

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I need to get a system running to recover some data from some HPIB drives. Does anyone have one to spare, or an ISO image of it?

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IBM 026 weight

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

I am looking for the overall dimensions and weight of an IBM 026 keypunch. Does anyone have this data handy? -- Will

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PDP-11 video, was Re: VSV11 on pdp11

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:54 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: PDP-11 video, was Re: VSV11 on pdp11 > > On Jan 21, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > > I have one 3rd party PDP-11 video card, and while most likely have > > RSX-11M > > software for it, I lack the means to actually hook it up to > > anything (or > > anything to hook it up to). > > I have a nice little dual-width Qbus board with a TMS9918 (classic > app-note circuit) on it. I've never messed with it, but I hope to > find time to someday. It'll be fun. > > -Dave > > > > > -- > Dave McGuire > Port Charlotte, FL [AJL>] Hi Dave! The next board we're making for the N8VEM project is an ECB "color graphics and sound" peripheral. The goal is MSX BIOS level compatibility. It probably won't be fully compatible with all MSX applications but should allow "well behaved" applications work that use the MSX BIOS. The board will have a TMS9918 for color graphics and AY-3-8910 for sound as per the MSX specification. We are considering some other items as well such as a SP0256-AL2 and/or CT5256A-AL2 depending on how the prototyping goes. So far, we've got three TMS9918 prototypes working. The board has a SRAM modification so no fussy 4116 DRAMs are needed. If you or anyone else is interested in helping develop and/or test a modern ECB TMS9918 board. Unfortunately, I've fallen woefully behind on my prototyping efforts as this week I got fully absorbed into this S-100 front panel board John and I are working on. John's got a prototype and I'm trying to make the PCB board. The schematic is done and the PCB has a layout but the trace routing is proving to be highly problematic. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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Netframe

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Back in the early 90's I worked for PC Technical Services in NYC. We sold and serviced Netframe systems. I became Netframe certified in 1990. Really nicely designed systems. I think they were bought by Dell at some point. Al

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IBM 026 weight

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

I had an 029 shipped across the atlantic last year. The 026 will weigh a bit more I think. I got the weight and dimensions for the carrier off of the original IBM spec on BitSavers. Of course if you could find the right search terms you might find Google could point you to a spec directly online. Roger On 31 Jan 2010, at 10:59, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > Message: 20 > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:06:11 -0500 > From: William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com> > Subject: IBM 026 weight > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Message-ID: > <e1d20d631001301806k1d0f1526ubdf7b959d8c2e6e8 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I am looking for the overall dimensions and weight of an IBM 026 > keypunch. Does anyone have this data handy? > > -- > Will

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General religious wars (was Re: Editor religious wars)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On 1/26/10, Christian Liendo <christian_liendo at yahoo.com> wrote: > Intel 8080 vs. 6502 vs. Z80 > > WGF (World Geek Federation) Three Way Mashup.. I remember 6502 vs Z80 back in the day, and in the S-100 world, there was plenty of 8080 vs Z80, but IIRC, there wasn't a lot of user overlap between those that might run an 8080 vs the 6502. I was a bit young for the S-100 era - I used an occasional machine when visiting family friends, but was myself solidly in the 6502 camp as far back as 1977 with the PET - it was what we could afford, so that's the way it went at my family's house. Perhaps it was different for the guys who had an 8080 machine and watched the 6502 gobble up the low-end market. I myself never heard anyone espousing the "obvious merits" of the 8080 in the late 1970s, but I can concede that I might not have hung around that crowd. -ethan

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ETH Lilith schematics online

by jdr_use＠bluewin.ch

I put my (reverse-engineered) ETH Lilith schematics in Eagle format online. ftp://jdreesen.dyndns.org/ftp/CAD If anyone is crazy and foolhardy enough to create new PCB's, then I want a set ! You'd want to do a bit of redesign though, at the very least modern DRAM's and a different diskdrive. Or do everything in a smallish FPGA... Jos

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Recurring subject: Goo removal

by cclist＠sydex.com

I was going through some of my old equipment and decided to see if my old DDS autochanger still worked. I powered it up and, after many whirring and "SCANNING" "LOAD 01" etc. messages, it gave me an ERROR 10. Upon opening up the unit, I discovered that the rubber rollers that manipulate the magazine as well those that actually feed the cassette had turned to black goo and spread it all over the place. Alcohol wouldn't cut the stuff, so I tried mineral spirits. Better, but no cigar. Lamp oil was even better, but I finally settled on Coleman Stove fuel. Not perfect, but at least I got things cleaned up. I'm probably not going to do the next step any time soon--replace the now-gone rubber feed rollers. I don't need the drive (although it can read DAT audio tapes, which is kind of interesting) as I have other DDS drives that work just fine. Maybe a rainy-day project when I'm looking for something to do. Does anyone have any preferences for a goo remover? I've heard that Ronson Lighter fluid also works well. --Chuck

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French/German/Italian Sybex books

by fmc＠reanimators.org

A Friends of Library organization where I volunteer has a small bunch of non-English-language Sybex books, early 1980s vintage. They're wondering, "do folks in Europe have more interest in this sort of thing?" Not so much a value thing as a not wanting to throw them out if there's interest. They're unusual to us, maybe more usual over in Europe, we don't know. Though, we don't see the English editions as much as we used to. Some are shrink-wrapped, some are spotted or water-damaged. It's a mix. Author, title, year of publication, ISBN, the latter two where I could get 'em (sometimes the shrink-wrap made that hard): "Le Beux","Introduction au BASIC","1980","2902414161" "Lamoitier","Le BASIC Par La Pratique","1981","2902414315" "Laurent","Programmez en BASIC sur TRS-80 Tome 2","1983","290241451X" "Laurent","Programmez en BASIC sur TRS-80 Tome 1","1983","2902414501" "Hergert","Sinclair ZX Spectrum BASIC Handbuch","1983","3887450272" "Hergert","BASIC fu:r den Kaufmann","1983","3887450264" "Zaks","Les Microprocesseurs","1980","290241417X" "Grant","Introduction au p-System UCSD","1983","2902414579" "Gourlay","Jeux en BASIC sur VIC 20","1983","2902414773" "Shaw","Jeux en BASIC sur Spectrum","1983","2902414765" "Charlton","Jeux en BASIC sur ZX81","1983","2902414757" "Bunn","Jeux en BASIC sur Atari","1983","290241482X" "Glatzer","Introduction au Traitement de Texte","1983","2902414439" "Gee","Programmez en BASIC sur Spectrum","1983","2902414528" "Hamann","Programmes en BASIC sur VIC 20 Tome 1","1983","2902414447" "Lhoir","Decouvrez le Sharp PC-1500 et le TRS-80 PC-2 Tome 1: l'Ordinateur","1983","2902414617" "Le Beux","Introduction au BASIC","1980","2902414161" "Naiman","Einfu:hrung in Wordstar","1983","3887450191" "Glatzer","Einfu:hrung in die Textverarbeitung","1983","3887450183" "Lamoitier","Basic U:bungen fu:r den IBM Personal Computer","","388745023X" "Hergert","Mein Sinclair ZX81","","3887450213" "Bui","Planen + Entscheiden mit BASIC","","3887450256" "Trost","Programm-Sammlung zum IBM Personal Computer","","3887450248" "Hergert","Sinclair ZX81 BASIC Handbuch","","388745028" "Mateosian","La programmazione dello Z-8000","","" "Hergert","Erfolg mit VisiCalc","","3887450302" "Hergert","Commodore 64 BASIC Handbuch","","3887450485" "Hartnell","Sinclair ZX Spectrum Programme zum Lernen und Spielen","","3887450221" "Schmidt","Spielen, Lernen, Arbeiten mit dem TI-994A","","3887450396" "Black","Farbspiele mit dem Commodore 64","","" "Zaks","Introduction aux Microprocesseurs","1976","" -Frank McConnell

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Old Tektronix boards

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

I hit the recycler today and found some cool looking old circuit boards from an old oscilloscope. One has Copyright 1969 Tektronix, inc and is a readout system board and a smaller board with just a part number. What caught my eye was the hand laid traces (curvy pre CAD), and the chips on it all had gold/copper leads and were socketed. Most of the chips are Tektronics made (there is a ti sn7402n), I assume the chips are just logic chips. Are they worth anything?

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HP Connect Membership for Hobbyist VMS Licence

by drb＠msu.edu

> A while back I joined at the most basic membership level of Encompass > just to get access to VMS hobbyist licences as I was not really > interested in any other benefits. This used to be a free > membership. Am I right that now you need to pay $50 a year to be able > to get a hobbyist licence? Is there some way to avoid this charge? DECUServe is a chapter now, and registration is free. De

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HP Connect Membership for Hobbyist VMS Licence

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

A while back I joined at the most basic membership level of Encompass just to get access to VMS hobbyist licences as I was not really interested in any other benefits. This used to be a free membership. Am I right that now you need to pay $50 a year to be able to get a hobbyist licence? Is there some way to avoid this charge? Regards Rob

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Part Number for a MicroVAX II Fan

by bfranchuk＠jetnet.ab.ca

Rob Jarratt wrote: > I agree, I thought 30A was a bit ridiculous, but I typed what I saw, and > with the noise it makes 30A might not be too far out :-). > > It is back in the machine now so I can't check at the moment to see if there > was actually a faint decimal point before the "3", but I am sure there must > be. In fact someone sent me a picture of a similar one which does show a > clear leading decimal point. No you have wrong! 1 amp fans when you have a 30 amp CPU. 30 amp fan when have a 1 amp micro-chip! > Regards > > Rob > In any case use a bigger fan. :) Ben.

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Free systems in Archorage, Alaska

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

William, (not I), has a few systems to give away: TRS-80 Coco Zenith Data Systems portable from 1987 - a ZFL-161-93 Zenith Data Systems Z-Sport from 1990. Zenith Data Systems Z-Noteflex, complete with port replicator from 1994. PCMCIA-based ZPlayer (CD Player) from Zenith Data System from 1994. Contact *him* for more info! William Lidster williamlidster at gmail.com Anchorage, Alaska

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Acorn vs Sinclair (was Re: Editor Religious wars)

by julianskidmore＠yahoo.com

Of course, everyone knows the most important computer war was between Acorn and Sinclair. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00n5b92 Thanks to pompous Sir Clive's fallout with his ex-sidekick, the cigarette-chuffing Chris Curry, the UK got to enjoy a continual dust-up between the two biggest home computer companies of the early 80s. Acorn vs Sinclair had the lot: 6502 vs Z80; elistism vs affordability; skunk-works development vs glossy buildings; establishmentism vs the underdog. And into the bargain they introduced not only the earliest home computers using gate array chips; a generation of UK games programmers, but also the preeminent mobile RISC cpu: the Advanced Risc Machine. In comparison, Commodore vs Atari are just tiffs between best buddies ;-) -cheers from julz @P

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Amiga Slingshot

by brianlanning＠gmail.com

In short, I'd really like to have one of these: http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search.pl?product=slingshot&company= It's an adapter that turns the expansion port on an amiga 500 into a zorro 2 slot like those in the amiga 2000. They're rare enough to almost never show up on ebay. But they look really easy to construct. Assuming the card edge connectors were available, I bet someone with more hardware knowledge than me could make a batch of these for cheap. While you're at it, there's a few designs floating around for IDE adapters for amigas that wedge between the 68000 and the motherboard. A batch of those would sell out quickly as well. brian

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Tricord Servers

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Curt, I don't know if "collect" is the proper term, but I have an untested, M 40-50C. I use it as a table, it looks to have been stripped of the drives and such. http://www.vintagecomputer.net/tricord/ Bill > > Hi, > > Anyone out there collect Tricord Servers? I used to install and > work on these back around 95', did work on a couple of ES7000 and ES8000 > systems at Newsday and Scherring-Plough. I was just remembering them > today, and figured I'd see if anyone had any of them. They are fairly > big sized units, about 3-4' tall, 19" wide styled cabinet, their > motherboards were rather unique and in a sense, weird too, like how the > card cage was accessed via the back and underneath the mainboard and such... > > Let me know if anyone collects these, thanks. > > > > Curt >

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Boomerang decompiler

by legalize＠xmission.com

Anyone using the Boomerang decompiler to recover vintage source from vintage binaries? <http://boomerang.sourceforge.net/> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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Solaris manuals

by bob＠copenhagen.cuug.ab.ca

Recently a friend of mine in Calgary (Canada) fell heir to a 13Kg box of Solaris manuals. He says that they are still in their original plastic wrappers and that most of them have "5.1" and "x86" on the spines. There are a few which appear to relate to Solaris 2.5.1 for Sparc. If anyone is interested please get in touch with him directly: rick at hartmantech.com Bob Bramwell | The birds have vanished into the sky, | and now the last cloud drains away. +1 902 531 2289 | We sit together, the mountain and I, | until only the mountain remains. | - Li Po, 8th Century Chinese poet

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Part Number for a MicroVAX II Fan

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

> Finally got round to getting the fan out. It is a 120mm fan, marked as > follows: > > Nidec > Torin > TA450DC > Model A 31728-10 > 10 V.D.C > 30 AMP I do not believe for one instant that that fan draws 30A! 0.3A, quite possibly. > > The only readily available DC fans I can find are 12V, guessing these would I've seen 24V ones, but those are even less use to you. > run at a reduced speed compared to the ones I have in the machine now, but > would probably otherwise work OK. What do you reckon? If this would work I Well, if it was my machine, I'd have a go are repairing the old fan first. Officially I'd claim that was for originality, practically it's bacuase I've got more time than money :-). Seriously, you've got nothing to lose by trying to take it apart and find the fault. If you can't fix it, you can just fit a new fan anyway. > might replace them both with quieter fans (not sure what the flow rate of > these fans is any idea? > > The connector is difficult to describe. The fan has two tags that stick out > and the cable has a plastic block on the end with a socket that fits the two > tags. Yes,t that's the standard arrangemetn. The tags can have wires soldered straight to them, or you cna use faston terminals . Smoe manufcatuters also sold leads with mouteded connectors that fitted onto the tags on their fans, as you have here. -tony

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Compaq Portable II fails to boot - some analysis

by thomas.gardner＠sbcglobal.net

Sometime ago I posted a request for help on my two Compaq Portable IIs that failed to boot from the FDD. I now can boot one using an "off the shelf" (at Weird Stuff) half height 360 kB FDD in place of either of the two Canon 5201 1/3 height FDDs that were in the two Portable IIs. Both exhibit the same failure mode, while trying to read the disk visibly spins erratically, as if there were some form of stiction causing it to go slower and then faster. Manually turning it with and without a disk, the spindle motor feels free of stiction. It is surprising to me to find both Canon 1/3 height FDDs fail in the same mode, suggesting a fundamental flaw in the design. For example, the full height and half heights I used in this project are older than the Canon's, of unknown provenance, but all 5 have worked flawlessly. Any ideas, other than avoid old Canon 1/3 height FDs? Anyone have a working 1/3 height 360 kB Canon FD? (I think I need Canon to get the bezel right on the machine I am "restoring"). Tom PS: I bought a package of 20 360 kB FDs off the internet and one of my problems was that about 1/2 of them were full of defects, causing some of my problems. I finally solved that problem by throwing away any disk with any defect found during Format and doing a Diskcomp after each Diskcopy.

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6809 SBC (was Editor religious wars (was Re: Museums))

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/281973.html 6809 SBC (was Editor religious wars (was Re: Museums)) David Betz dbetz at <mailto:cctalk%40classiccmp.org?Subject=Re%3A%206809%20SBC%20%28was%20Editor %20religious%20wars%20%28was%20Re%3A%20Museums%29%29&In-Reply-To=%3C1EA52674 -F26F-4783-9889-80FEBFDC0F0C%40xlisper.com%3E> xlisper.com Thu Jan 28 12:40:03 CST 2010 * Previous message: Editor <http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/281971.html> religious wars (was Re: Museums) * Next message: 6809 <http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/281975.html> SBC (was Editor religious wars (was Re: Museums)) * Messages sorted by: [ <http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/date.html#281973> date ] [ <http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/thread.html#281973> thread ] [ <http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/subject.html#281973> subject ] [ <http://classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2010-January/author.html#281973> author ] _____ On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:28 PM, e.stiebler wrote: > David Betz wrote: >> On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Ben wrote: >>> It seems only Motorola thought of 'home' computing >>> more with 6809. >> I always wanted to program the 6809. I have a SWTPc 6800/6809 system that I built but I never fleshed it out with a disk drive and OS. Does anyone make a 6809 SBC that will run OS-9 these days? > > I think there is one hiding on : > > http://groups.google.com/group/n8vem I checked this out a while ago but I think it is just a 6809 coprocessor board that only works with their Z80 board. > > Or take a cheap FPGA kit, there is the system09, which runs a lot of software in the meantime Thanks for the suggestion but I was hoping for something actually had a 6809 chip on it. _____ size=2 width="100%" align=center> The N8VEM 6809 host processor by itself is dependent on the ECB SBC for its IO. However, I recently released an "IO mezzanine" PCB that connects on top of the 6809 host processor board that allows it to be operated independently with its own power interface, serial port, timer, and dual VIAs for IO. One of the N8VEM builders ported CUBIX to the 6809 host processor and I am using ASSIST09 on the 6809 host processor with IO mezzanine as a stand alone computer. It definitely uses a real 6809 CPU. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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Looking for an SBUS CG3 501-1718 or 501-1909

by silvercreekvalley＠yahoo.com

Hi I'm looking for a SBUS cg3 card, the later models which were 501-1718 or 501-1909. I have a new monitor which will only sync to 1152x900x76 not 1152x900x66 the card I have (of course). Its for a sparcstation 1+. For some reason the cg3 is the only card I could ever get working with the sparcstation 1+. Later TGX cards, etc wouldnt work. Anyone have a spare? I'm in the UK, but for something this size shouldnt be too much to post. Thanks Ian.

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Herb Grosch

by evan＠snarc.net

Computer scientist Herb Grosch died today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Grosch

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PDP8E and compliments

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hello. I shall receive in a short one PDP8E in working state. It was used with one paper tape reader years ago. With independence of the revision of the machine that I shall do, I should like to locate some peripherals to interact with the computer. I was thinking in one Teletype with paper tape reader-punch, or both, one cathode-ray terminal or typewriter terminal and one paper tape reader-punch... I have one VT220 operative that perhaps could use with the appropiate cable, with I'm not sure about this. What I have is one offer for one modern storage device for the PDP8E of solid state kind or similar. It's expensive and I must think about it seriously. I should agree any comment and offer related with this matter. Better for free :-) Regards Sergio

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Shaft encoder in HP2631B printer

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

This is a long shot... On the other hand, there are people here who've done all sorts of odd things, and the only silly question is one that's not asked (or something like that). As I mentioned yesterday (when I asked about zneer diode data), I've got an HP2631B printer that's gone crazy. I had anohter quick look at it today, and it appears that one problem is the shaft encoder on the right hand end of the carriage leadscrew. This connects by a 10 way cable (integral with the encoder) to the 'printer logic' PCB, 6 of the pins on the connector sseem to be used, 2 grouds, 2 +5V and the 2 quadrature output signals. Those 2 outputs are buffered by a couple of sections of a '14, the outputs of that go to testpoints (and elswehere, of course). Anyway, both those testpoints are low all the time (turning the leadscrew by hand, I've not fixed the motor drive amplifer yet!). The outputs from the encoder are high all the time (so the problem isn't the '14, more's the pity), they are genuinely high, not floating. And there don't seem to be any pull-ups on the printer logic PCB< so the 'high' is coming from the encoder. Anyway. Iv'e read the HP service manual (on http://www.hpmuseum.net) and it appears you need special tools to remove and replace the encoder. The encoder disk is epoxied to the neadscrew, you need a special puller to break the bond and an alignment tool to get the encoder disk the right distance insde the encoder housing when you refit it. Of coruse I don;t ahve the tools... Has anyone ever done this? Maybe the same tools, or something like them, were used with THe shaft encoders that HP sold as loose componets. Any thoughts? -tony

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Sorta-OT: Selling IBM Model M13 Keyboards, proceeds benefit Infoage Science Center

by starbase89＠gmail.com

As a sort of fund raising method for Infoage, I am selling some things for them. This one is a Model M M13 keyboard with the built in trackpoint. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270522341799 Thanks Joe

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ARM & 8051 Shipments (and kinda PPC)

by ken＠seefried.com

I've looked into this a bit. As noted previously, it is essentially impossible to figure out exact shipments of 8051, as there is no central clearinghouse of licensees, and there are literally dozens of suppliers sticking 8051 IP in all sorts of things. That said, according to the only reasonably well cited analyst report I have (from Emitt Solutions), the 8051 architecture accounted for 19% of the US$4.9 billion 8-bit MPU market in 2007. If you wave your hand and say the average volume price across all 8051 variants is US$0.25 (a number I think is probably high), that's around 40 billion units shipped in 2007. According the Annual Report for ARM Holdings, Plc., there were shipped 2.6 billion ARM processors for mobile applications and 1.4 billion in other applications from all licenses in 2008. This was up from around 3 billion units in 2007 (in a total market for 32-bit embedded processors of around US$3.8B). Safe to assume it was more than that in 2009. Not sure what that represents as a revenue number, as ARM Holdings revenue numbers are for licensing fees. However, one could guess it's a market of significantly more than US$4b across all licensees in 2008. By comparison, Freescale did around US$1.88B in microcontroller sales, but that was across all their lines (including the still very popular 68xx/HC lines), so is safe to assume the actual units shipped for PPC is a fraction of ARM numbers. I know there are other PPC licensees, but I don't think they're going to make up that gap. All analysts agree that the 8-bit market is eroding and the 32-bit world is exploding, from a market share if not revenue perspective. KJ

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Sort of On-Topic?

by doc＠vaxen.net

http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/ Yes, exactly what the URL implies. Doc

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Manual for Matrox Video Controller PND00188 - 166 D06 2

by jhfinedp3k＠compsys.to

I looked in bitsavers under Matrox for the manual. The board is a Qbus quad with the number PND00188 - 166 D06 2 (Matrox Alpha Video) Made By: Matrox Electronic Systems Ltd. Type: QRGB - Alpha Date: November 10, 1986 Might anyone have a copy of this as a PDF? Jerome Fine

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OT: RIM/MSFT developers needed for Haiti relief efforts

by evan＠snarc.net

Got this email from my boss. It's off-topic here, but perhaps some cctalk'rs can help: ------------------------- http://www.CrisisCommons.org is looking for app developers with BlackBerry and WinMo experience to help build mobile tools for NGOs and others on the ground in Haiti. Learn about this and other inspiring efforts to restore communications in the earthquake devastated here: http://bit.ly/bWtUFG

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Yet more books, free for cost of shipping from Austin, TX

by amigansoftware＠gmail.com

>The Instructor 50 Desktop Computer User's Guide >Signetics, 1978, 300 pages? >Introduction to the Instructor 50 Desktop Computer >Signetics, 1978, 120 pages? I'm interested in these two, as I am the programmer of the world's only emulator (WinArcadia) of this trainer and it would be invaluable for improving the compatibility. Many thanks James Jacobs Canberra, Australia

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RTE-A VC install screen

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

How did you get to this screen? http://www.flickr.com/photos/hp-fix/3300388502/ Was this a boot from a physical tape in a physical tape drive? A cartridge tape or 9-track? Do you have images of these boot tapes? I wonder what it would take to get something like the HPDrive emulator setup for HP-IB tape drives. I have an HP A900 but no boot/install tapes, and even if I had them I don't have any HP-IB tape drives. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Rik Bos <hp-fix at xs4all.nl> wrote: > > > The board is on flickr, put it on a few weeks ago. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/hp-fix/4247818112/ > > -Rik >

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Be careful handling computer racks

by fryers＠gmail.com

Man crushed to death by computer gear http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/12/2790875.htm Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh

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Seeking dump of TRS-80 Model II ROMs

by d_cymbal＠hotmail.com

Hi folks, I am looking for a dump of the boot and character generator ROMs from a TRS-80 Model II (not Model I Level II) if anyone can help out. Thank you.

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TU58 Tape Images for 11/750

by iamvirtual＠gmail.com

I have imaged all of the TU58's that I have in my possession. See http://www.iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11software.html for additional 11/750 software including stand-alone backup and console images. From what I recall, I read each of the tapes twice and binary compared the results. I used PUTR running on a *shudder* modern laptop connected to my external TU58 drives. The external box uses RS232, so it was rather easy. Make sure you check the rubber roller inside the TU58 before you use it. I had to replace all of my rollers with a slice of PVC hose in order to use the tape drives. Is there anyone interested in acquiring the various bits of media and knowledge in one area specific to the Vax-11/750? The result of the work would still go to bitsavers, this would be a special interest group ;-) My 11/750 has VMS 4.7 loaded, and I am looking for images that I can use reinstall VMS onto a new drive (I don't want to scribble over top of the drive I have for fear it may contain something important). I would also like to organize a SIG for the really early PDP-11's (PDP-11/20 and PDP-11/10). Comments? --barrym > David Comley wrote: >> Has anyone imaged the VAX RDM Microdiagnostic tape (tape #1) for the 11/750 ? I'm > > Check my modest repository[1] at: > http://www.jaredblaser.com/antique/vax11750/TU58_diag_images/ > > I seem to have Tape #1. Please note that I haven't tried these images > yet. My 11/750's power supply is still under the weather, but slowly > we're sorting it out. > > -- Jared > > [1] Thanks to Barry M. for these images!

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Ebay final fee increases

by vax9000＠gmail.com

I received an email today of the new auction final fee schedule. I dug out the old emails (thanks to gmail). Before 02/18/2005: $0.01 - $25: 5.25% of the closing value $25.01 - $1,000: add 2.75% for those over $25 Over $1,000: add 1.5 for those over $1000 After 02/18/2005: $0.01 - $25: 8% of the closing value $25.01 - $1,000: add 5% for those over $25 Over $1,000: add 3% for those over $1000 (may miss some increases in between) After 03/01/2010: 9% ($50 cap) Thank you, monopoly.

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Free Stuff for pickup in NJ

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

I have some extra hardware that is free for pickup in Keansburg NJ starting next week: Qty 2 - HP Laserjet IIIP Printers Mixed lot of ISA network cards, mostly NE2000 clones. I think there's at least one NE1000 in there. Cards only. No docs or drivers. Most are dual Coax/10-Base-T Lot of Corvus stuff: Constellation Controller, mixed lot of Apple II/IBM adapters, a Mirror board, I think there's a 5mb Mac Omnidrive too, Constellation Cables, and some manuals/software. IBM Graphics Printer (EPSON MX-80) Power 100 Computer PowerMac 8500 Mac IIsi Mac LC III Mac LC I with a newer logic board in it. I have the original also. (I have keyboards and mice to go with all Macs.) HP Deskwriter Wallstreet G3 233mhz I'm moving to a smaller place and this old stuff has to go. PM me off-list. Al

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Wanted: Altair 680 VTL image and 1702 burning...

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

Hi, I would like to put VTL on my 680. I have a few 1702s but I need the image to put on them and someone to put them on for me. Can anybody help with either? Thanks, Bill

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Great old IBM Pic's

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Someone at work forwarded this link to me, knowing I like old computers. Definitely a nice set of photo's. http://www.luckham.org/LHL.Bell%20Labs%20Days.html Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Great old IBM Pic's

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On 1/26/10, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > Someone at work forwarded this link to me, knowing I like old > computers. Definitely a nice set of photo's. > > http://www.luckham.org/LHL.Bell%20Labs%20Days.html What a great blast from the past. I remember scenes like those from when I was a kid and we'd go on field trips to places like Rockwell and Battelle. -ethan

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Floomla / Floola

by woyciesjes＠sbcglobal.net

> From: Keith <keithvz at ...> > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 10:53:21 AM > Subject: Re: Museums > > ... > > Floomla is a decent free ipod app, btw... > > Keith This got me curious and looking... But I've got some detailed questions that I haven't been able to realy answer via Google. Can I contact you directly, Keith, (or any other Floola user) about it? Reply direct to me, since this is OT.... -- --- Dave Woyciesjes --- ICQ# 905818 --- AIM - woyciesjes --- CompTIA A+ Certified IT Tech - http://certification.comptia.org/ --- HDI Certified Support Center Analyst - http://www.ThinkHDI.com/ Registered Linux user number 464583 "From there to here, From here to there, Funny things are everywhere." --- Dr. Seuss

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Univac 422 sighting

by cclist＠sydex.com

Just happened to see one on an ancient rerun of the "Patty Duke Show". Although it was a "training computer", it still had 512 words of 15- bit storage and an instruction repertoire of 61 instructions. (6 bit opcode+9 bit address). Ed Thelen's list gives it as 1963. Power consumption, from the manufacturer's brochure, was 500W, with a 115VAC supply. Thelen gives it as 1.13KW, but I suspect that the difference is in the I/O device (typewriter, paper tape punch). Given the modest space and power requirements, would the 422 qualify as another one of the first minicomputers? Cheers, Chuck

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Square D Sy/Max 8010-SPR-300 Programmer rescued

by wgungfu＠gmail.com

Hey all, just rescued a Sy/Max Programmer today. Same model as the following: http://www.maraindustrial.com/catalog/8010SPR300.jpg Unlike that pic, everything looks in great condition. Thought I'd check here for any interest. Looking for trades or cash (which will ultimately go towards other equipment anyways). Marty

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ebay: PDP-11/03, dual RL02, RX02

by legalize＠xmission.com

Sitting at $100 right now. Seems like a good price. Item # 150408425839 -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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Display peripherals for PDP-10

by legalize＠xmission.com

Do any of these still exist? >From 1970 PDP-10 reference manual, part 7, pg. 631: "346/ 340B PRECISION' INCREMENTAL CRT DIS- PLAY: plots points, lines, vectors, and char- acters on a 9 3/8 in. square raster of 1,024 points along each axis. 1 1/2 us is required per point in vector, increment, and character modes. Random point plotting rate of 35/is. A 370 high-speed Light Pen is included. 342B CHARACTER GENERATOR for 346/ 340B 348/VR30 PRECISION POINT PLOTTING DISPLAY: operates at a maximum plotting rate of 20 KC or one' point every 50 ,ts on a 9% in. x 9% in. display area. Number of addressable points along each axis is 1024. A 370 high-speed Light Pen is included. ' VP10 POINT PLOTIING DISPLAY CONTROL: operates at either of two maximum' plotting rates. Low rateis 10 KC (one point every 100 ns). High rate is 50 KC (one point every 20 Ms). Number of addressable points along each axis is 1024. Control interfaces to. a cus- tomer supplied oscilloscope (Tektronix Type RM503 or equivalent) or to a CRT display. 370 HIGH SPEED LIGHT PEN: for use with VPl0." I'd never heard of there being graphics display peripherals. Looks like these are storage tube technology based, even though the description says "raster". I think here they just mean the addressable range of points on the tube. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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David Ahl sez: Phila. Computer Music Festival remastered onto CD

by evan＠snarc.net

Got this email from Dave Ahl tonight: -------------------------- Hi Evan: At VCF last summer, I mentioned the Phila Computer Music Festival (Aug 1978) and asked if anyone was interested in a CD of it. Quite a few hands went up. So I finally took the time to make a CD of the Festival. Unfortunately I had to start with the vinyl record because the tapes had long since disappeared. But in remastering it, I was able to balance the tracks (on the original, the left was at a higher volume) and also adjust the volume of the various pieces to make them more of less equal (there was a 50% difference on the original). So now I have remastered CDs available with all the original jacket and liner notes (slightly re-edited) for $7.95 postpaid in USA. Maybe you could put out a notice to the VCF list. Complete Info and how to order can be found at http://www.swapmeetdave.com/PhilaMusic/

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OT hardware flexibility and reliability, was Re: Museums

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:26:54 -0500 From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> Subject: OT hardware flexibility and reliability, was Re: Museums <much snippage> >I'll simply explain my point and move on. <much more snippage> >Dave McGuire --------------------------------------------- Sigh... if only 'twere so; 'tis a consummation Devoutly to be wished... mike ********************

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HP HPIB chips

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

A week or so ago there were a few messages about the HP 'Medusa' HPIB chip. While looking for indormation on the custom chips in the HP printer I'm working on from time to time, I cam across some comments that might be applicable. The HPIB interface chip in the HP2531 printer is called 'Phi'. According to HP Jorunal July 1978, it is a silicon-on-saphire CMOS device. It's pacakaged in a 48 'pin' leadless ceramic package, and has the number 1AA6-6004 The Medusa, packaged in a 48 pin DIL package, seems to be a closely related device. The pinot is in the same order, for example. This probably explains the rather curious numbering of the data bus pins on the Medusa (D0, D1, and D8-D15, with D15 as the LSB). The best reference I've found so far on this is the reference manual for the HP12009A HPIB interface for HP1000 machines. It's on http://www.hpmusuem,net. THe earlier version of the manual there covers the Phi-based board, the later version the Medusa-based one. They are very similar.. -tony

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