hires here http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo2.pl?id=slingshot&pg=1&res=hi&… http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo2.pl?id=slingshot&pg=2&res=hi&… http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo2.pl?id=slingshot&pg=3&res=hi&… On 1/27/10, Jim Brain <brain at jbrain.com> wrote:

Isn't it just an OR gate for Autoconfig passthrough? On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Brian Lanning wrote:

I'm kind of surprised at the simplicity of the adapter. I always thought that more buffering was needed on the bus. I guess for just one plug in card it's not as critical though. On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Brian Lanning wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at atarimuseum.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:14 AM Subject: Re: Amiga Slingshot Isn't the side expansion slot of the 1000 and 500 flipped in orientation? Anything that works in one would be upside down on the other?

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Teo Zenios <teoz at neo.rr.com> wrote: That's right. The expansion connector on the 500 and 1000 are electrically compatible, but since it's on the other side of the case and backwards, they can't share peripherals. The slingshot would work upside down though. Although you'd have a zorro card (possibly with a hard drive attached to it) hanging out in mid air on the 1000 whereas on the 500 it would be flat on the table. I guess that would mean the pro version would have the card upside down on the 1000, so you'd have to elevate the 1000 off the desk. The amiga has always had a cult following, but appears to have had a resurgance in popularity lately. There's a lot of hardware that goes for silly prices on ebay. Acclerators in particular go for crazy prices as do graphics related boards for the 2000. Recently, a former employee of GVP managed to buy the designs for their upgrade boards and start making them again: http://www.gvp-m.com/ The prices are reasonable if you compare them to the original new prices, but they're still more than what I would pay for an accelerator. If it were possible for someone to make accelerator boards and undercut these prices, you could sell a lot of hardware. Individual computers has also made some good hardware for the amiga. Although he (Jens) seems to be focusing on VGA adapters these days. There seems to be a definite shortage of love for the 1000 and 500 though. Most "new" hardware focuses on the 1200. There's plenty of used upgrades for the 2000 floating around. And Individual recently released a VGA board for the 500/1000/2000 seriese machines. But memory, hard drive, and processor upgrades for the 1000 and 500 are in very short supply and I think would sell very well. The slingshot could do the hard drive, or maybe the memory. There are zorro boards that had both, but I think they're less common. There were processor upgrades for the 500 that plugged into the expansion slot, but they're in very short supply as well and can sell for several hundred dollars on ebay for a 68030 board with disk and memory. brian

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM, e.stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote: I agree, it's been very popular and I wouldn't mind having one. I think there's a lot of people who prefer to play with the original hardware though. I think the minimig is great. But if I wanted to emulate, I'd probably just run WinUAE on a PC and save some money. brian

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Keith <keithvz at verizon.net> wrote: All of those could work through the expansion connector (or wedged under the 68000 like the mega midget racer boards) except for the scan doubler. That has to go in the denise socket. Individual makes a board that does that. It's about $150. Jens does good work. I have the analogous board for my 1200. But I have a 20" studio monitor that works great with the amigas, so I'll just continue to use that. I'd like to have three of those vga boards for the 500, 600, and 2000 though. I had a 500 originally. I worked for a year and a half at minimum wage to buy it back in 1987. My parents wouldn't help me pay for it because they thought it was a glorified video game machine. And besides, I already had a computer (an IBM 5150 with 128k ram, 1 functioning floppy drive, a cheesy word processor, and that high persistence monochrome monitor). :-/ I really wanted a 2000 though. So I have one now. I've also had a lot of fun playing with the 1200. brian

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:09 AM, e.stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote: I've got my 2000 and 1200 on CF ide adapters. It's fast, quiet, and works great. You can also pull it out and plug it into your desktop and use WinUAE to format and set up the OS, copy files over. brian

Brian Lanning wrote: Sorry, disagree here (at least a little) ;-) Minimig is nicer and better than a WinUAE, because it is a self contained system, which doesn't need patches all the time. Like to original, you just switch it on, and play. Cheers

On January 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM Brian Lanning <brianlanning at gmail.com> wrote: It wouldn't be too much of an issue to make a "flipper" for that issue.? Would there be any value on allowing 500 peripherals on the A1000 or vice versa? What I don't understand with the designs is why the Slingshot puts the right angle connectors on the "bottom" of the board?? I noticed on the pics that what I would call the "bottom" of the design (the part where all the solder pads are, is labeled "this side up".? As well, anyone know why the design doesn't just use normal connectors that straddle the board edge?? Right angle connectors are almost always more expensive to buy as opposed to straights. I'm not saying the design is bad, mind you, just trying to understand why the choices were made. Jim