Hi.
Got a PDP-11/34 today. It came with a RK05, a Tektronix 4012 + hard
copy unit and a Western Peripherals TC-130 9 track tape controller.
Unfortunately I had to leave the actual tape drive behind. No space
left on /dev/car and way to heavy for my herniated intervertebral
disk...
The tape drive was some kind of Cipher 800/1600 BPI drive. There was
printed "MOD NO 0920640-1250U" on it. I couldn't find anything usefull
on the net with this information.
Now the problem: I own a Cipher 880 9 track tape with Pertec interface.
It works well on my QBus VAXen and the PDP-11/73. So I am used to the
2 x 50 pin cables / connectors found along the Pertec interface. But
the TC-130 tape controller has one 50 pin cable labeled "control", a 26
pin cable labeled "read" and a 26 pin cable labeled "write". There are
two connector adapters to adapt the 26 pin cables to 36 pin connectors.
I found the TC-130 manual on bitsavers. From a quick look at the signal
names the interface of the TC-130 is not Pertec. But what else?
Is there any way to connect the TC-130 to my Cipher 880?
--
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Not the most classic of classiccmp but by chance anyone have one of
these around? No real reason or need, just want one in my collection.
Or anyone know how common they were back in the day?
Here's an Ad for it I found:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thedamnmushroom/5362889570/
Hi all, I obtained a MINC-11 from Adrians DEC emporium(aka garage) in
Cambridge last year
(http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/museum/digital/minc/index.php). I've
finally got around to taking a look and it appears to be complete and
original with a /03 CPU.
Taken all the cards out and given it a good clean. Checked for any odd
washers etc. in the backplane.
Removed the power supply (H786), hooked up to a pair of hard drives as a
dummy load and tested. Nothing. Normally at this point I'd scrap it and
hook up a PC PSU but I've been reading this group too long and have been
persuaded by Tonys component level repair arguments so I got stuck in :)
Tracked it down to one of a pair of 1N4004s connected in series after
the 7912 12V start-up regulator. So, I now have healthy 5V & 12V
supplies and these seem to be stable for a long time with all the cards
in place.
But - it's not booting. The diag LEDs on the BDV11-YA constantly read
1001 from power on (I'm assuming that on=1). The only table of diag
codes that I could find lists 1001 as "DECnet message received" which I
believe to be bogus since I don't have any DECnet cards (I'm also
wondering if the MINC has different diag codes?). So I started digging
further and found that BDCOK H is ~1.7V and BPOK H is ~2V. Now, I
believe that these signals are generated directly from the PSU,
specifically the power monitor board that calls them DC L and AC L. My
assumption is that these should both be at 5V in a healthy system since
they are active high - correct?
Unlike a regular LSI11 the MINC doesn't have any front panel buttons or
LEDs (e.g. for BDCOK status) so I can't easily tell if what I have is
good or not...
I've not gone too much further yet but thought I'd try and get some
knowledgeable input to make sure I'm not going down the wrong path. One
thing I have found is the -12V supply that's only used inside the PSU
(and feeds the power monitor board) is at ~-15V.
Many thanks for any advice!
James
Don't know about the rest of you guys, but I am getting nothing but test messages from the list.
------Original Message------
From: Dave McGuire
Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
To: General Discussion On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
ReplyTo: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: testing
Sent: 26 Jul 2011 04:00
On 07/25/2011 11:39 PM, Jay West wrote:
> test 1 2 3
It's broken. This message didn't make it through. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
See item # 130549364208
It has all the probes and manuals, which is more than is usually offered
for these things on ebay. Looks a little dusty/dirty, but otherwise appears
to be in working order.
Seller wants $10 for it, which is probably less than scrap value.
About 2 hrs from Portland, OR.
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download
<http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/>
Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
It appears all the classiccmp websites were moved sucessfully as well as the list itself. Everything went to a temp machine, so that I can replace all the drives/controller and reload the ccmp server from scratch without extended downtime.
Let me know if there's any issues, and I'll keep you posted.
J
The top head mechanism seems exceptionally fragile.
I went though a stack of drives where most of the metal flexures have bent up so
the head no longer makes contact with the media. Sony doesn't seem to have done
a very good job of the mechanical design on this.
that hurts. would be a nice find. i assume they would have found plenty of
takers for the equipment if they had done some research about the stuff. the
disk-packs alone would have been sold nicely.
--
Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL
Operating System Collector
Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com
Homepage: www.eichberger.org
2011/7/25 Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net>
> Yup, saw it. I created a "spike" account just to complain. Others
> should join in.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
> > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Christian Liendo
> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:52 AM
> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Auction Hunters find a Classic Computer and totally dismiss it
> >
> > Does anyone watch the TV Show "Auction Hunters". Last night they found
> > a storage unit with some classic computers and they don't even notice.
> >
> > I put together a quick article on the episode.. There is one computer
> > that is easily recognizable, the other I don't know what it is.
> >
> > Here is the link to the article
> >
> > http://8bitaficionado.com/2011/07/25/auction-hunters-totally-miss-out-
> > on-the-collectible-computers-they-have/
> > -----
> > No virus found in this message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3787 - Release Date: 07/25/11
>
>
Does anyone watch the TV Show "Auction Hunters". Last night they found a storage unit with some classic computers and they don't even notice.
I put together a quick article on the episode.. There is one computer that is easily recognizable, the other I don't know what it is.
Here is the link to the article
http://8bitaficionado.com/2011/07/25/auction-hunters-totally-miss-out-on-th…
I have an RD53 which is suffering from the sticky bumper problem. Normally I
can resolve this with a sliver of paper placed over the sticky bumper. But
in this instance it seems the bumper has practically liquefied and I think
it has gummed up some of the mechanism.
Is it feasible to dismantle the assembly to clean it up? Has anyone ever
done this? Any advice?
Thanks
Rob
> Picked up the main unit w/o keyboard at Weird Stuff a couple of days ago
> so I'm looking for a keyboard, docs and sw (I know, fat chance).
By the early 90's the Wicat company I knew was selling flight simulators.
I don't think the flight simulators were running on Wicat hardware but don't really know.
Don't know if the Wicat of the 90's was the same as the Wicat of the 80's.
The cool flight simulators in the 80's were often using E&S stuff inside. And the
Brochure you point out looks like it may have been aiming at a similar market.
Tim.
> Doing more cleaning in the basement.? Getting ready to recycle LOTS of
> data books.? Before I do, I thought I'd check with the group first.
Wonder if the Computer History Museum would want or could use them. If so, they might pay for shipping:
http://www.computerhistory.org/getinvolved/
> From:?Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
> Picked up the main unit w/o keyboard at Weird Stuff a couple of days ago
> so I'm looking for a keyboard, docs and sw (I know, fat chance).
>
> Dumped the firmware and scanned the PCBs. Looks like one of the bipolar
> proms is dead on the CPU, and someone reversed the two connectors on
> bottom of the graphics boards.
>
> This was one of the systems I really wanted in the early 80's.
>
> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/wicat/
I had one about 25 years ago. I still have the set of eight
boot/install floppies. There were different versions of the WS-150
with different memory management and different disk controllers. The
diskette box that I haved says: "CMI 10 Rev 3 Controller, Mapped
System 150 MEDset" I have been saving these for a very long time
hoping that I could find a good home for them.
--
Michael Thompson
Hi folks,
today I got a HP-85a for my collection (got it from a workmate whose father
died recently). It's in good physical and optical condition, very little
signs of use. With the machine came 2 tape carts, one 16k mem-board, a spare
roll of thermal paper, the user manual and a BIG carrying-case for the
machine and the parts. After a quick check (psu) I turned the whole thing on
and - whoopee, it's behaving like as it was new :D
Sorry for the spam, but I wanted to share my happyness.
Regards,
Wolfgang
--
Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL
Operating System Collector
Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com
Homepage: www.eichberger.org
Congrats, Wolfgang! I love old HP gear, they were some of the best made stuff ever. I still have an HP-67 lying around somewhere. Looks like you got a great machine!
>>
>> On 20 Jul 2011 at 22:31, Tony Duell wrote:
>>
>> > Actually, in my experience, a crowbar circuit is often used on a PSU
>> > with electronic overcurrent protection, and said protectiuon should
>> > operate if the crowbar fires due to an overvotlage. However, there's a
>> > second line of overcurrent protection (e.g. a fuse) that will operate
>> > if the electronic protection doesn;t (e.g. becasue the PSU control
>> > circuitry is totally malfunctioning).
>>
>> I've got a couple of linear supplies that use just that design--an
>> SCR crowbar driven by a comparator following a LM723 regulator stage--
>> the 723 has overcurrent protection, so it all hangs together.
>>
>> (and there is a fuse on the primary of the transformer as well)
>
>The HP9800 machines that I lkeep on going on about, and some of their
>periphearlas are like that. They use 723s either as linear or switching
>regulator controllers and have crowbars on the outputs. They do use the
>current limiting circuitry of the 723, and if that doesn't help there's a
>mains fuse.
>
Thinking about it some more, I guess it makes sense to crowbar the output
that is rising and going to cause damage rather than to crowbar something
nearer the input and maybe end up having to wait longer for reservoir
capacitors to discharge before the output voltage drops, even if there may
be more damage in the power supply in some cases.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
I got given a third party (Phillips) 32MB module for my VAX 4000-200
recently. I have just installed it. While it seems to work I get this from
the console:
>>>sh mem
Memory 0: 00000000 to 00FFFFFF, 16MB, 0 bad pages
Memory 1: 01000000 to 01FFFFFF, 16MB, 0 bad pages
-- FDM (fast diagnostic mode) not working
Memory 2: 02000000 to 02FFFFFF, 16MB, 0 bad pages
-- FDM (fast diagnostic mode) not working
Total of 48MB, 0 bad pages, 120 reserved pages
>>>
What is FDM exactly? I suppose it is a feature that is not present on this
board as it is 3rd party, but I wonder if it can have any impact beyond
affecting diagnostics?
Thanks
Rob
I have an Alphaserver 1000A which began intermittently halting, same
as if the halt switch had been pressed. At the time it had a serial
console. I thought it might have been picking up noise on the serial
line and interpreting it as a break signal so I changed over to a
graphics console. It still halted intermittently. This problem either
went away or the following problem caused me to not notice it any more.
The machine started intermittently powering itself down, requiring it
to be switched off and back on again to reset the power supply before
it could be run again. The machine might stay running for several
hours or it might power down less than a second after switching on, or
anything in between.
Thinking that the two problems might be related, I investigated the
operator control panel on which are mounted the low voltage on/off
switch and the halt switch. I found the two switches to have little
in common and my theory to be unlikely to be correct. The on/off
switch and associated circuitry appear to be working correctly, as
does the interlock which cuts power when the lid is removed.
I tried a power supply unit from another Alphaserver 1000A and found
this did not cure the problem so I replaced the original. Thinking
that the power supply might be sensing an overload, I disconnected
the power feeds to the disks/cd/floppy and removed all the PCI cards.
The problem was still there.
When it was failing regularly, I found a line going to the power
supply which normally sat at 0V and pulsed high just as the power
supply shut down. This line did not pulse the same way when the
power was turned off normally. I suspect it is a signal from the
system board to the power supply requesting it to shut down, or
less likely, a signal from the power supply to the system board
signalling it has a problem and is about to shut down.
I have a service guide which mentions the possibilty of the power
supply shutting down due to a fan failure or high temperature but
it doesn't give any details on how this works or even how to find
out if it is happening.
Does anyone have any detailed information about the power control
system in the Alphaserver 1000A or any helpful suggestions?
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Hi,
sorry for the spam, but.... There are some DDP-516 manuals on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230647266921
I am trying to get those... Because I don't have the manuals for my own
real DDP-516 (I mostly use PDFs and have some borrowed).
So if anybody of this list is bidding on it - please have some mercy!
Kind regards,
Philipp
William Donzelli, I've tried emailing you a few times about those VT220s
that you may be getting rid of. Please respond.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
Part of my semi-regular castabouts, I found that Batronix
(http://www.batronix.com/) makes chip burners with Linux software. Has
anyone here used their products?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
I managed to scavenge a Tandy 102 earlier today (1988 build, 32K memory).
Physically it's in good condition, and powers up, but the display's a bit
unwell, having an entire row of dead pixels 4 up from the bottom, and a
32-pixel high column of dead pixels 22 pixels in from the left (on just the
lower half of the screen, the upper 32 in that column are OK).
The fault seems a little bit more subtle than that, however; sometimes
(depending on which app I'm in, and the angle of the screen, and what I
type) I can see some garbage in the first two characters (12 pixels) of the
dead row - usually much fainter than normal "on" pixels (barely even
visible), and occasionally a fully-on pixel, but at the wrong x-offset for
whatever I've typed.
Question is, where to point the finger? I've no idea how the 102 addresses
the screen, although when I was checking it over inside before powering on
I noticed all of the HD44102 ICs - are each of these responsible for a
small rectangular area, or is the relationship between them and their
pixels more complex? Could a fault with one potentially knock out / corrupt
an entire display row?
Does anyone have a simple BASIC listing for a main memory check? That could
be useful (one particular reason for mentioning that is that when I first
powered the machine up, it had a non-default date and showed some files
present, but in trying to scroll through the contents of one it reset, lost
the files, and set the date back to 1900).
I already re-seated the cabling between display and the main logic board;
the cable itself looks to be in good condition with no signs of severe
distress, but I'll check the individual lines with a meter just to be sure.
cheers
Jules
> Anybody happen to know whether a bare Decmate like this (no
> keyboard, no disk drives) should display anything on-screen upon
> power-up?
>
I just tested mine (has COMM board). It displays nothing on the CRT until
the keyboard is pluged in. After that it displays setup.
>
>For all of its faults it was still the market leader.
>
>Did you know you could plug a B&W TV camera into the back of a VT100 and see
>the picture on the screen? I did it at Dec Park (Reading UK) one day and
>drew a large crowd.
>
I can remember the tiny on/off switch and the vertical DB25 connector but that
is all I recall about the back of a VT100. I guess there must have been a BNC
connector? I do vaguely recall occasionally having to dissuade academic staff
>from plugging their thinwire ethernet segment into the back of their terminal but
I don't remember which type. I suppose it was probably the VT100.
Did the terminal automatically sense an external video connection or was it
necessary to manually disable the video generated internally? I guess it was
probably expecting 525 lines, 60Hz but could cope with 625 lines, 50Hz?
My VT220 has a BNC connector on the back but in this case it is an output. It
produces a nice picture on a monochrome 625 line 50Hz monitor after adjusting
the vertical hold.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
>
> >
> > A great trick that I learned at the (awesome) ASR-33 workshop at
> > VCF-E is to replace the striker with a piece of vinyl tubing. You can
> > get it at pretty much any hardware store. Use 7/8"L, 7/16"ID, 5/16"OD
> > vinyl tubing.
>
>How does that work? The original rubber hammer is a cap that fits over a
>stud on the metal actuator. You surely don;'t put a collar of tubing
>around the stud, do you/ If so, what's to stop the end of the stud
>hitting the type cylidner?
>
>Or do you somehat put a piece of the tubing as a slever ovr the complete
>actuator, puting it on from,the top?
>
Tony,
Exactly, fit it snuggly over the whole thing like a sleeve. Remove
the old gummy pad first. Works like a charm and will last for a very
long time. This way you don't have to cut a replacement pad and then
find an adhesive.
Bill
> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:34:39 +1200
> From: "terry stewart" <terry at webweavers.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: Socket issue in Commodore PETS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Socket issue in Commodore PETS
>
>
>> I would certainly replace all the sockets with turned-pin ones, .....
>
> My experience with the PET has made me re-assess the old adage of
> reseating
> socketed chips as a first step in trying to get something the doesn't work
> to work. Cheap old sockets may not take kindly to having something yanked
> out of them that have been snuggly entrenched for 30+ years. Far from
> helping to fix a fault, it actually may introduce a new one.
>
> I was quite careful when I swapped these chips around but that was enough
> to
> cause socket failure on BOTH boards.
>
> Terry (Tez)
Along with bad RAM and ROM chips, IC sockets making poor contact is
definitely at the top of the list of common PET problems, especially if
they've been disturbed; I prefer to slide the chips sideways rather than
remove and replace them, if only to avoid the possibility of bent or broken
pins.
But in my experience with dozens of PETs and AIM65s, some working in
extrememely hostile environments, I found that a remarkable product called
Stabilant-22 almost totally eliminated contact problems (unless there was
actual damage), and virtually eliminated frequent socket-related service
calls. I don't recall having to replace a single socket; the only issue with
certain socket types is that with a lot of vibration or circuit board
flexing the chips sometimes migrate out of their socket.
It's expensive but it does work and a little goes a long way.
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:05:08 -0400
> From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
> Subject: Re: Dataman chip writers and Linux
> Fortunately, there are better ways to run Windows apps nowadays than
> WINE.
> -Dave
Absolutely! Windows, for example...
;-)
m
The "SBC-6120 Full Kit, FP6120, FP Finishing Kit, VT6 Kit" sold yesterday for $1,500.00 on eBay...
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley, AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Hey folks. I'm running Peter's pcb+gl_experimental branch, and I'd
like to play with the photorealistic rendering that used to be referred
to as "ben mode". I thought it was in this code base, and it's pictured
on Peter's (excellent) blog. How can I do this? Peter, can you slap me
with the big fish of clue?
Thanks,
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I just picked-up an ASR-33 today - it looks pretty good. Supposedly low hours.
I need to replace the rubber for the print head - it has turned hard and is cracking.
Is there anything else I need to do before I even turn it on and press a key?
Thanks!
Steven Stengel
I just got an email back from Dataman Ltd about my inquiry of the
possibility of using a Linux machine to drive their chip writers. What I
got back was a statement that in ten years, less than ten people have ever
asked about Linux or Mac support. Surely there are more people than just
me who'd want to use these things under Linux.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Anyone have a copy of the "wallchrt.exe" program from around 1997?
Earlier versions apprecaited too. The one claiming to be on the data-io
ftp server times out...
ftp://ftp.dataio.com/device_lists/_archive/etc/README.html
Any copies (PDF) of the Data I/O wallcharts (besides 1986) appreciated
as well.
Thanks,
John :-#)#
--
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
I have no idea if these are of use to anyone, but I have three NOS (New
Old Stock - sealed) 3M DC 600A Data Cartridges (60Mbytes!) that are free
to the first person who wants them - simply pay for the shipping or pick
up at my shop in Vancouver, BC, Canada. Weight is 280gm each, and could
be shipped Air Small Packet (padded envelope) for $15 to the USA or
$35 (Air) or $18 (Surface) to the UK.
John :-#)#
--
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
I have no idea if these are of use to anyone, but I have three NOS (New
Old Stock - sealed) 3M DC 600A Data Cartridges (60Mbytes!) that are free
to the first person who wants them - simply pay for the shipping or pick
up at my shop in Vancouver, BC, Canada. Weight is 280gm each, and could
be shipped Air Small Packet (padded envelope) for $15 to the USA or
$35 (Air) or $18 (Surface) to the UK.
John :-#)#
--
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
Anyone have a copy of the "wallchrt.exe" program from around 1997?
Earlier versions apprecaited too. The one claiming to be on the data-io
ftp server times out...
ftp://ftp.dataio.com/device_lists/_archive/etc/README.html
Any copies (PDF) of the Data I/O wallcharts (besides 1986) appreciated
as well.
Thanks,
John :-#)#
--
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
[This showed up on the TRS-80 list that I'm on. I figured many of you
here would enjoy it. -g.]
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:01:17 -0000
From: Rainer <fredrich at .......de>
Reply-To: TRS-80 at yahoogroups.com
To: TRS-80 at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TRS-80] Reviews of TRS-80 and compatible computers in magazines of the
1970s & 80s
For some TRS-80 fans it may be interesting to have a view on the editor's judgements from the earlier times when these computers were displayed in computer shop's display windows for sale. The technical details of the reviewed computers are more precise and meaningful than the shorthand technical specifications found on modern computer museum internet sites. Some of the reviews are more well disposed and other less. Because of the different views of the various editors the reader can make himself a pretty good overview about the desired computer model. Since some of the reviews are difficult to obtain nowadays I think it might be useful to make them available in this manner.
Beside the elder TRS-80 computer enthusiasts (I'm 51 years old) which are familiar with most of the TRS-80 models since the late 1970s there may be younger ones who could be supported in their decision to obtain a specific model. The containing information of the reviews might bring some light in the beginner's lack of knowlegde of the different types of TRS-80 and compatible computers. BTW, are there any younger TRS-80 users among us (born after ~1980) or do the group members consist only of survivers of the former 8-bit times?
The reviews are taken almost all from independent magazines like Byte or 80micro and similar printed publications. The pages from the magazine 'Microcomputer News' should more seen like an introduction and advertisment than real reviews because this magazine was published by Radio Shack. Nevertheless I have added for completeness a few of the overviews from this magazine too.
Some of the models have more reviews than others. That's because my access is limited to only a small fraction of all ever printed issues of the various computer magazines. For example: the Model III which is represented only by one review is accidently the least recognized computer in this collection despite the fact that this model is one of the most spread ones. Does someone have another review of the Model III?
I've collected all the reviews found in magazines that I have (had) personally on paper or that are (were) accessible in digitized formats (PDF, JPG or plain text) on the internet. Regardless of the original data format all the reviews are now in PDF.
Featured Tandy Radio Shack computers:
- TRS-80 Model I
- TRS-80 Model II
- TRS-80 Model III
- TRS-80 Model 4
- TRS-80 Model 4P
- TRS-80 Model 12
- TRS-80 Model 16
- TRS-80 Model 16B
- TRS-80 DT-1
- TRS-80 Color Computer
Featured TRS-80 compatible computers:
- PMC-80
- Dick Smith System 80
- Video Genie
- Lobo Max-80
- LNW80
- Trommelschlaeger TCS GENIE IIIS
- Trommelschlaeger Speedmaster
The examined magazines (nearly all in English language exept the mentioned German magazines):
- 80micro
- Byte
- 80-US
- Microcomputer News
- Creative Computing
- Infoworld
- Micro-80
- CHIP (German language)
- c't (German language)
- Computer Persoenlich (German language)
The reviews of the specific models are integrated to sets of PDF files and packed in RAR archive files. To unpack the desired file you can use the program Winrar for example. Other packing programs like Winzip may work as well.
For more information look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR_(file_format)
The sets are named:
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TRS-80 Model I
Byte 1977-11, page 46
TRS-80 Model I
Byte 1978-04, page 49
--- German ---
TRS-80 Model I
CHIP 1979-07
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TRS-80 Model II vs. IBM PC 5150
80micro 1982-03, page 168
TRS-80 Model 12
80micro 1983-05, page 133
TRS-80 Model 12
InfoWorld 1983-08-22, page 50
--- German ---
TRS-80 Model 12
Computer Persoenlich 1983-09
==========================
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TRS-80 Model III
Micro-80 1981-02 (Issue 15), page 2
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TRS-80 Model 4
80-US 1983-06 (Vol. 6 - Issue 6), page 14
TRS-80 Model 4
Micro-80 1984-01 (Vol. 4 - Issue 06), page 10
TRS-80 Model 4
Microcomputer News 1983-05, page 17
TRS-80 Model 4
Byte 1983-10, page 292
TRS-80 Model 4D
80micro 1986-02, page 29
TRS-80 Model 4P
80micro 1984-03, page 42
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TRS-80 Model 16
Microcomputer News 1982-03, page 32
TRS-80 Model 16
80-US 1982-08, page 39
TRS-80 Model 16
80micro 1982-09, page 16 - Model 16's Future
80micro 1982-09, page 300 - Whither DOS for the Model 16?
TRS-80 Model 16
80micro 1983-02, page 228
TRS-80 Model 16B
Microcomputer News 1983-10, page 11
TRS-80 DT-1
80-US 1982-08, page 54
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Dick Smith System 80
Micro-80 1980-06 (Issue 07), page 5
PMC-80, Video Genie, Dick Smith System 80
80micro 1982-01, page 218
PMC-80
InfoWorld 1981-04-13, page 54
Lobo Max-80
80micro 1983-07, page 122
Lobo MAX-80
InfoWorld 1981-01-17, page 53
LNW-80
Byte 1984-05, page 258
LNW-80 Kit
80micro 1982-05, page 206
LNW-80 Kit
80micro 1982-10, page 356
--- German ---
Video Genie EG3003
CHIP 1980-11
Genie II EG3008
CHIP 1982-01
Trommelschlaeger TCS GENIE IIIS
c't 1985-03, page 100
Trommelschlaeger Speedmaster
CHIP 1984-09, page 98
==========================
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Color Computer
80micro 1981-01, page 88
Color Computer
80micro 1981-06, page 202
Color Computer
80micro 1981-08, page 286
--- German ---
Color Computer 2
c't 1984-05, page 48
==========================
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TRS-80 Model I
Byte 1977-11, page 46
TRS-80 Model I
Byte 1978-04, page 49
--- German ---
TRS-80 Model I
CHIP 1979-07
--------------------------
TRS-80 Model II vs. IBM PC 5150
80micro 1982-03, page 168
TRS-80 Model 12
80micro 1983-05, page 133
TRS-80 Model 12
InfoWorld 1983-08-22, page 50
--- German ---
TRS-80 Model 12
Computer Persoenlich 1983-09
--------------------------
TRS-80 Model III
Micro-80 1981-02 (Issue 15), page 2
--------------------------
TRS-80 Model 4
80-US 1983-06 (Vol. 6 - Issue 6), page 14
TRS-80 Model 4
Micro-80 1984-01 (Vol. 4 - Issue 06), page 10
TRS-80 Model 4
Microcomputer News 1983-05, page 17
TRS-80 Model 4
Byte 1983-10, page 292
TRS-80 Model 4D
80micro 1986-02, page 29
TRS-80 Model 4P
80micro 1984-03, page 42
--------------------------
TRS-80 Model 16
Microcomputer News 1982-03, page 32
TRS-80 Model 16
80-US 1982-08, page 39
TRS-80 Model 16
80micro 1982-09, page 16 - Model 16's Future
80micro 1982-09, page 300 - Whither DOS for the Model 16?
TRS-80 Model 16
80micro 1983-02, page 228
TRS-80 Model 16B
Microcomputer News 1983-10, page 11
TRS-80 DT-1
80-US 1982-08, page 54
--------------------------
Dick Smith System 80
Micro-80 1980-06 (Issue 07), page 5
PMC-80, Video Genie, Dick Smith System 80
80micro 1982-01, page 218
PMC-80
InfoWorld 1981-04-13, page 54
Lobo Max-80
80micro 1983-07, page 122
Lobo MAX-80
InfoWorld 1981-01-17, page 53
LNW-80
Byte 1984-05, page 258
LNW-80 Kit
80micro 1982-05, page 206
LNW-80 Kit
80micro 1982-10, page 356
--- German ---
Video Genie EG3003
CHIP 1980-11
Genie II EG3008
CHIP 1982-01
Trommelschlaeger TCS GENIE IIIS
c't 1985-03, page 100
Trommelschlaeger Speedmaster
CHIP 1984-09, page 98
--------------------------
Color Computer
80micro 1981-01, page 88
Color Computer
80micro 1981-06, page 202
Color Computer
80micro 1981-08, page 286
--- German ---
Color Computer 2
c't 1984-05, page 48
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PDP-11 on an S-100 Card
Steven M Jones classiccmp at crash.com
Thu Jul 14 19:00:45 CDT 2011
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There was a thread here or on the N8VEM-S100 list about putting
different vintage CPUs on a newly designed S-100 boards. I happen to be
cleaning up my office and came across something done back in the day
worth noting on that theme...
In the May 1984 issue of Microsystems, /The Journal for Advanced
Microcomputing/ (Vol 5, Num 5), there is a directory of S-100 products.
ABACUS Technology Systems, Inc is among the vendors listed, and on page
67 they have a 1/4 page ad for their PC11 product - right next to a
similar ad for the Lattice C compiler. This board features a T11 with
32KW of RAM, and runs RT-11 v5.0 with compatible I/O devices emulated
somehow by a CP/M program (presumably running on an 808x/Z80 card in the
same chassis).
Here's the full text of the ad:
[snip]
-----REPLY-----
Hi! It was on CCTALK mailing list the S-100 PDP-11 was discussed a few weeks ago by the people here.
My offer to build a board still stands but it will take some effort of someone(s) who can design the schematic and write the software for whatever free/open source software is necessary.
As I recall, the project fizzled since the obstacles to overcome were simply too enormous. That's a shame however if someone gets ambitious and wants to take this on please let me know since I'll volunteer to make the PCB, get some prototypes, etc.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Hey all!
I'm planning to upgrade my home network at some point in the
not-too-distant future and I'm trying to figure out what to do with my
serial-terminal-console machines. Right now I'm using a decserver
200/mc to connect to them, but its always been a little fragile: It
doesn't seem that most switches understand MOP (so it won't boot) and
requiring a lat client leaves a lot to be desired. The connected serial
terminal works great but parts of me are wanting to move to something
that takes up less space and is more tcp/ip friendly.
What is everyone else doing for this? Just a back of the envelope count
looks like there are around 8 serial-consoled machines. I've thought
about using usb-to-serial adapters but that seemed kind of hacky.
The machines are a mix of OSes, and some of them are Suns, so the
break/disconnect signal is always...amusing. If I can ditch the mop
requirement I should be able to get rid of my aging (and noisy) hub and
move everything to switches (since I don't use decnet either)
Anyone have any suggestions?
If I can get a reasonable solution I'll probably get rid of the pair of
ds200's I have (one with skins and the other without).
Brian
Hi guys,
Does anyone have a copy of the floppy disc (or possibly CD) which
accompanies the Second Edition of "The SCSI Bus and IDE Interface" by
Friedhelm Schmidt?
I just bought an ex-library copy of this, and the disc is naturally missing.
The local library is showing their copy as "Sold/disposed, content no
longer relevant"...
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 02:18:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: steven stengel <tosteve at yahoo.com>
> Subject: My first ASR-33 TTY
> To: cctech at classiccmp.org
> Message-ID:
> <1310721489.56001.YahooMailClassic at web110602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I just picked-up an ASR-33 today - it looks pretty good. Supposedly low
hours.
>
> I need to replace the rubber for the print head - it has turned hard and
is cracking.
>
> Is there anything else I need to do before I even turn it on and press a
key?
>
> Thanks!
> Steven Stengel
>
>
Here is a URL with useful information... download the power point
presentation on evaluating and setting up an ASR 33 from the VCF E 7.0
Teletype workshop.
http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf7/Teletype101/
Bill
There was a thread here or on the N8VEM-S100 list about putting
different vintage CPUs on a newly designed S-100 boards. I happen to be
cleaning up my office and came across something done back in the day
worth noting on that theme...
In the May 1984 issue of Microsystems, /The Journal for Advanced
Microcomputing/ (Vol 5, Num 5), there is a directory of S-100 products.
ABACUS Technology Systems, Inc is among the vendors listed, and on page
67 they have a 1/4 page ad for their PC11 product - right next to a
similar ad for the Lattice C compiler. This board features a T11 with
32KW of RAM, and runs RT-11 v5.0 with compatible I/O devices emulated
somehow by a CP/M program (presumably running on an 808x/Z80 card in the
same chassis).
Here's the full text of the ad:
=========================
PC11 Gives You DEC RT-11 on S-100
[B/W picture of board]
o PDP-11 Compatible Instruction Set
o Includes RT-11 Version 5.0 Operating System
o IEEE-696 S-100 Bus, 8 Consecutive I/O Ports, Switch Selectable
o 64K Bytes of Memory on the PC11 Board
o Uses 8 Inch Disks Compatible with DEC RX01 and RX02 Drives
o CP/M Interface Program Emulates Standard DEC I/O Devices
o Supported Devices: Console, Printer, Dual Single Density 8 Inch
Floppy Disk Drives
o Other Devices May Be Supported By Custom Programming
CP/M is a Trademark of Digital Research Corporation
PDP-11 and RT-11 are Trademarks of Digital Equipment Corporation
ABACUS Technology Systems, Inc.
P.O. Box 740918
Houston, Texas 77274-0918
or call (713) 777 - 0401
=========================
So, anybody have one of these boards? Or did anybody on the list use one
back in the day and care to comment on the experience?
--Steve.
Multitech MPF-PC
http://elazzerini.interfree.it/MP-PC/index-en.htm
What I NEED to make this system alive::
1) new ISA 8bit video card like monochrome, CGA, or VGA card
2) boot disks: they are special because they contain the DIOS loader that
sits between the hardware and the operating system itself to allow the
complete management of the motherboard.
Regards
Enrico
Work is continuing on repairing the H7140 PSU from my PDP11/24.
Now it seems that the surge suppression resistor across the relay has
failed. This resistor is marked as R1 on the printset (p66 and p69) but
actually is two components connected in series. The parts list on p71 of the
printset lists a 3ohm 7W 5% resistor, but it is not 100% clear if this is
supposed to be the surge suppression resistor, although it does seem likely.
The thing is I measured the resistance of the two resistors (in-circuit),
one was open circuit and clearly the failed component, the other measured
10ohms, it might be failing too I suppose.
The two resistors are marked KCC 13-17198-00 8234. I have not been able to
find any information on them, so I can't verify the spec and I don't know
what to replace them with. Does anyone have any information on these
resistors?
Thanks
Rob
I sold a Morrow MPZ80 rev3a S100 CPU board to someone recently (who is
probably on this list). Somehow I didn't notice that the board was
missing chip 15A. I don't have any more MPZ80 rev3a board with that part
still mounted. What I want to do is find someone who has this board in a
working state to dump that PAL for me. I don't have the ability to dump
and burn PALs, but I'm working with some people who do to get this
oversight fixed. If you can't dump PALs, please contact me anyhow so we
can get something set up.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Hi
I don't normally post links like this, but this machine deserves a good
home:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/zip/2493135053.html
I'd take it myself.. but you know... shipping and all that.
Regards,
Pontus.
I recently acquired a PDP-8/L system with BM08 memory expansion and Computer
Operations CO-600 LINC tape drive.
Does anybody have documentation on the BM08 (preferably the 8K additional
core model) or the LINC tape drive? I looked in the normal spots and didn't
find any. The closest was the MC8/L 4K memory option on bitsavers.
If interested pictures are here until I create a real page:
http://www.pdp8online.com/ftp/misc/pdp8l/
> I know the feeling. If I ever learn to drive, I want a DS (an original
> oen, not the modern cars that share the name but don't even have
> hydraulic suspsension :-().
>
> -tony
My motorcycle mechanic has at least 3 DSes, 2 XMs and a Xantia, and a garage filled with spare parts. At least one of the DSes and one of the XMs runs.
I drove a DS once, on a gravel road full of potholes in the south-west of France. Absolutely amazing, it just floated along, one hardly felt the potholes...
OTOH on another holiday in France we were overtaken by one with a whole family in it. A little while later there had been an accident, the DS that had passed us had collided with a lorry. It had been literally flattened, it looked like it had been squashed with a rolling-pin. Very tragic :-(
It would have been nice if they were still made, but with more crash-proof bodywork.
/Jonas
>>The "real" car is called the Cooper Mini. The "fake" car is called the
>> Mini Cooper.:) (I_think_)
> Is it? I am sure we had a car over here called a 'Mini Cooper' that was
> based on the original Mini.
>
> -tony
Mini Cooper was derived from the original Mini by John Cooper and Alec Issigonis and first appeared in 1961. The BMW Mini also exists in a Mini Cooper version, tuned by John Cooper's company, now owned by BMW.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_Cooperhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cooper_Works
/Jonas
> Watch "The Italian Job" (The REAL original, not the American remake that
> uses the MAXI-cooper). The original "Italian Job" had a lot of England's
> best actors, and the most fantastic stunt driving footage of any movie.
> To get back closer to topic: the movie has a theme of extreme UK V Italy
> nationalism, with a group of Brits tampering with the traffic control
> computers to pull off a robbery.
Now *that* was a *brilliant* movie. Benny Hill as the mad computer scientist...
I have managed to see it once only :-( the American remake has been on TV several times, not worth watching if you've seen the real one. Like a BMW-"Mini" versus the real Mini...
/Jonas
>
>A year or two back, I had several VT220s available in
>dirty-but-confirmed-working shape from an auto dealer's parts counter,
>and I couldn't generate any interest. These were at FreeGeek
>Columbus, so when they didn't sell intact, they were scrapped out.
>
Are the bits still around? I am looking for a flyback transformer
for a VT220. There are at least two different types but I suspect
the differences are physical only and I could use either type.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
>
>From the day I saw the first complete VT100 prototype sitting on the bench
>at the Digital Terminals Product Line offices in Marlboro Mass. I have
>always considered the VT100 to be the classic terminal. It led the way for
>many years and VT100 compatibility was universal.
>
>No other terminal had the impact VT100 did. I can't remember how many
>thousand I sold in the UK whilst at DEC but it was lots.
>
>You cannot get a more classic icon in computing than the DEC VT100.
>
I have kinda mixed feelings about the VT100, possibly coloured by
having to deal with a large batch of secondhand, secondgrade examples
at college. The cases were fragile and yellowed and the keyboards
often could not cope with student use. There were a lot of minor
video faults, typically vertical linearity. Older and grottier ADM5
terminals seemed to be built like tanks in comparison.
The thing that irritated me the most was the loud and grating beep.
They seemed slow for a given bitrate compared to other terminals,
even after turning off the smooth scroll (which was quite cool if
you ever had time to wait for it which noone ever did).
The VT100 protocol was a great step forward but it seemed slightly
over-complicated and bloated. A pity that many writers of terminal
emulators and terminal driver software failed to grasp the point
of it and came up with broken implementations.
I was much happier with the VT220 which seemed to solve a lot of the
version 1.0 issues of the VT100. However, it didn't really look like
a terminal. Maybe a VT220 in a Commodore PET case would better fit
the bill :-)
I have an ADM5 and a VT220 but I would not be interested in having
a VT100.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Hi guys,
Does anyone have a copy of the floppy disc (or possibly CD) which
accompanies the Second Edition of "The SCSI Bus and IDE Interface" by
Friedhelm Schmidt?
I just bought an ex-library copy of this, and the disc is naturally missing.
The local library is showing their copy as "Sold/disposed, content no
longer relevant"...
Thanks,
--
Phil.
philpem at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
I wasn't sure if there might be any parties on the list who would be
interested in old (late 80s/early 90s) vintage IBM PC/RT gear. Also of
potential interest to collectors of the later PowerPC gear as this was
the predecessor. I have several items that may be of interest to
hobbyist/collectors and I really do not have the space for them but
also have no desire to see things end up in the dump if they can find
a good home. Any interest at all?
I do not have a current inventory but I know I have ...
a couple PC/RT 6150 server towers (worked after Y2K, haven't run them
much since)
a couple PC/RT 6152 minitowers (based on a PS/2 Mod 60 w/ add-on RISC
cpu card, think I have one or two that work & another "shell" for parts)
a pair of streaming tape drives (one working, one I don't remember
trying recently)
various monitors, keyboards, mice, tablets, & cards and so forth (some
working, some may need repair)
documentation/software binders for AIX and AOS (BSD)
... if anyone is interested, I can get you an inventory in a few days'
time with more details.
I would be looking for someone to take the whole lot I think, rather
than unload some things & still be faced with the prospect of sending
these off to the dump for lack of space anyway. And ideally someone
who would try to get the old parts back into a functional state or as
a "museum piece" or something like that rather than melting it down
for gold. Not looking for any money, my monetary investment was paid
off by several good years of use over a decade ago. Definitely a "come
and get it" as these are old, heavy and I doubt that they'd be worth
while to ship.
If you are at all interested, let me know -- Thanks!
-j
Jeff Brendle Office: 243 Deike/(814)865-3257/fax
865-3191
Desktop Support Spv. Home: 146 Haverford Circle
Penn State - Coll. of E&MS State College, PA / (814)238-8811
Mailto:bli at psu.edu AOL/MSN/Yahoo! IM - JSBrendle
Hi everyone,
Please consider checking out the book publication funding at -
http://t.co/8iSzNKF
Please help spread the word, "like" it on Facebook and tweet it.
Oh, um, maybe even buy a book? Thanks!
Best,
David Greelish, Computer Historian
President, Atlanta Historical Computing Society
Classic Computing
The Home of Computer History Nostalgia
http://www.classiccomputing.com
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> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Michael Thompson <
> michael.99.thompson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for scanning the manuals. The RICM has an H-11 in the restoration
>> queue.
>>
>> Any chance you have the H-11 schematics?
>>
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:55:10 -0500
> Subject: Re: h11 manuals
> prolly
Any chance you could scan and post them?
--
Michael Thompson
Today I scored an obscene collection of TTL and ECL chips, in a weird
sight unseen sale (the guy was selling the parts drawers as drawers,
and would NOT let buyers see what parts were inside!), but that is not
the point of this post. Well, maybe I am yanking the chains of all
those people that say TTL and ECL is getting hard to find.
ANYWAY...
Also scored was a power unit to an HP 7900A disk - the 14 inch unit
>from the 2100A and friends. Very nice condition, and heavy as sin. I
do not need it, but it was sitting there so forgotten and lonely.
Does anyone need one of these supplies? Very nice condition. I forget
the HP number - 13mumblefooA. I really do not want to ship it, but
could deliver it to MIT or any of the other area hamfests.
--
Will, in 10512
By luck I stumbled across what may or may not be a complete hex-width Unibus
framebuffer board set made by Dynamic Digital Displays.
Now that would be cool in the PDP-11/84. :)
I can identify three of the boards but not all of them:
-FB1000FBL001 Serial 55 Rev. 2 (looks to be the main memory as well as the
D/A logic to output to RGB)
-1000VB-001 Serial 35 (calls itself the "Voxel Buffer")
-1000CTD001 Serial 47 (calls itself the "CTU Board")
These boards can be seen at the following link:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_206…
Then there were two other boards that the seller had as well. They may be
related to the previous three and they also might not be.
-1000HIL001 Serial 45 (board calls itself "HI") -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_206…
-1000DTD001 Serial 54 (calls itself "DOTS") -
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_206…
Unlike the first three boards, these ones have "Dynamic Digital Displays" on
them, however the model numbers are similar on their structure.
The unfortunate part is that these boards have connectors on them ("HI"
board has three 40-pin ribbon cable headers, "DOTS" has two 50-pin ribbon
cable headers) so either I'm missing more boards that that talked through
their own bus and not the Unibus, these connectors are for options, or there
is additional hardware/cards I am missing.
I have no way to read the two TMS27C512 EPROM chips and Google has pretty
much nothing about these boards that I can locate and their hand written
serial numbers mean these are something special. Might anyone have further
information on this?
A while back, there was a brief discussion on the list about microprocessor
simulators running on larger systems. Some interest was expressed in the
simulators I was involved with some years ago. I've put together some details
and some code here:
Z80 simulator in FORTRAN IV for the MUSIC/SP IBM mainframe operating system
http://software.beyondthepale.ie/music/z80/
6502 / BBC Microcomputer simulator in FORTRAN and 370 assembly for MUSIC/SP
http://software.beyondthepale.ie/music/y6502/
6502 / BBC Microcomputer simulator in FORTRAN and VAX assembly for VAX/VMS
http://software.beyondthepale.ie/vms/y6502/
All the bits and pieces are provided to run the first two simulators on the
freely available "MUSIC/SP Demo system" running on Sim390 or Hercules and the
latter one on any reasonable VAX/VMS platform or simulator. The original
unmodified code is also there.
With the addition of a BBC Micro BASIC ROM, it is possible to run text based
BASIC programs such as http://software.beyondthepale.ie/bbcmicro/survival/
(an adventure game) on the latter two simulators.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
> From:?Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com>
> Date:?Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:11:57 -0500
> Subject:?h11 manuals
> curently spending an hr a day scanning heathkit h11 manuals so far scaned 4
> seconds of the software referance manual if anyones interested
>
> http://pointdouglas.com/SEBHC/H11/?M=A
Thanks for scanning the manuals. The RICM has an H-11 in the restoration queue.
Any chance you have the H-11 schematics?
--
Michael Thompson
Found during sorting out some boxes, a M9404 (Q22 cable connector)
and a M9405 (Q22 cable connector mirror image). Both are in good nick
(no broken of latches) and each card has 2 50pin berg connector sockets
on them.
I would like to get Eur 20 + postage for it.
I'm in the Netherlands btw.
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minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end.
While preparing the paperwork for some donations to the Computer History
Museum, I started wondering about appraising the artifacts donated for tax
write-off purposes. Who would qualify as an appraiser of classic computer
items? I think I'm a pretty good candidate given the time I've spent
selling the stuff on Ebay. Is this something I should run by a lawyer?
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A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
All --
I?m finally getting around to building the JS-1 joystick replica and
using a D+7A board I got a few months ago. I have the JS built but now I?m
trying to recalibrate the board per the instructions on page 4 and I?m
having trouble getting it to read the right values.
The calibration procedure, basically, starts with putting 2.54v on an
analog input and using a short program to read the input and display it on
the front panel output port of my IMSAM. There are two problems. When
reading the A/D and displaying the input, bit7 is stuck ON. The second
problem is that I can?t get the input to read the maximum positive of 7Fh
(excluding the seemingly stuck bit7).
The version of the schematic I downloaded isn?t a very good scan, and
doesn?t seem to be the same revision as my board (because the adjustment
pots have different reference numbers). There are a few common chips that
touch bit7 (like the LS367) which I can swap, but the others, like the
AM2502 successive approximation converter, isn?t as common.
So before I go swapping chips, does this board have any common failure
mode I should be looking for?
Thanks!
Rich
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 23:39:14 -0400
> From: mcguire at neurotica.com
> To:
> Subject: Re: free-open source PCB autorouter software development
>
> On 7/6/11 7:03 PM, Andrew Lynch wrote:
> > You've missed the point entirely. Yes, gEDA includes a PCB layout
> > tool (PCB) which includes an autorouter. However, they are closely
> > coupled and if you want to use the PCB autorouter you must start with
> > gEDA EDA tool set and stay with it.
>
> This is not correct! While there is a well-developed integrative
> path between PCB and the gEDA suite, it is NOT necessary to do all of
> your schematics in gEDA in order to use PCB, nor is it necessary to use
> PCB for your board layouts if you use gEDA for schematics/BOM/etc.
>
Hi,
gEDA is a fine EDA tool set. PCB is a great stand alone PCB layout tool that includes an autorouter. Agreed. However, if you are going to use the PCB autorouter you must use PCB for your PCB layout. For example, how does one get their PCB layout into PCB to use its autorouter if you uses KiCAD, FreePCB, or Eagle? There is no interchange standard AFAIK.
I think we've lost focus on the original topic of this thread so I will repeat it. If you are a software developer with familiarity with EDA and are able to help develop a truly free/open source PCB autorouter this is a great opportunity to help the hobbyist EDA community. This is desperately needed IMO.
Hobbyist PCB autorouters are either non-free or lack support of interchange standards. QAutorouter has promise to open up free/open source PCB autorouting to all the hobbyist EDA toolsets that support Specctra DSN export and SES import such as KiCAD, gEDA, FreePCB, and Eagle.
Please consider. Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
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Hi All,
I'm working on a project here
http://sourceforge.net/projects/qautorouter/
It is an auto-router that is written in C++ on Qt application framework,
reads/writes specctra file format and uses a plug-in style of interface
for the router engines.
It is very alpha at this stage, I have much of the UI, file I/O, and the
plug-in API operational. I am working on a "Simple Router" plug-in at
the moment that is implementing a simplified version of the expanding
box algorithm. The Simple Router will be used as a sort of template for
debugging the plugin-api and as a template for developing more
sophisticated plug-ins. Toporouter would be a good one.
In any case, it would be great to get a few other people on-board, a
developer or two that is quite proficient in C++ would be very helpful,
some hands-on with Qt would help a lot too.
Someone to look after the Windows(tm) and Mac OS-X build and release
would be very helpful.
Someone to help with packaging; windows installer, Mac OSX installer,
and linux .deb, .rpm packages would be helpful as well.
If you're interested, please just send me a little about what you can
contribute, and your sourceforge id.
Kind Regards,
Mike Sharkey
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curently spending an hr a day scanning heathkit h11 manuals so far scaned 4
seconds of the software referance manual if anyones interested
http://pointdouglas.com/SEBHC/H11/?M=A
>Message: 17
>Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:28:43 -0500
>From: Joe Chisolm - Gmail < jchisolm6 at gmail.com >
>Subject: Re: appraisals
<snip>
>The 501(c)(3), in this case the CHM, should give you paper work that
>describes the donation and the value of the donation. ?A few years back
>the IRS issued rulings that said you could no longer just "claim"
>donations. ?You have to have the paper work from the 501c3 org.??
When I worked in Anthropology at the Field Museum in Chicago, we would give donors a letter stating receipt of the donation, but we did not asign a value to the donation. The donor had to get that from a third party appriser. Most other museums that I am familiar with have similar policies (which might even be a part of the tax code).
Bob
All,
I have rescued two 3B1s and there are more available.
Please post here if you are interested.
I would like to post in other forums like
http://www.3b1.info/
but can't find out how to post.
Thanks,
Keith Stanley
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Andrew Lynch <lynchaj at yahoo.com <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk> > wrote:
> Copied from KiCAD-users mailing list. Hobbyists have long needed a
> free/open source PCB autorouter for their EDA tool suites. One is now in
> development. Please support this project. This is not my project but one
> I
> strongly believe is very good for EDA hobbyists. Certainly useful for
> KiCAD
> and maybe gEDA as well.
>
>
Hi Andrew,
There's this one for gEDA which has been around for several years.
PCB, http://pcb.gpleda.org/news.html
And it's available on sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcb/
And you can track the progress here, https://launchpad.net/pcb/
Why reinvent the wheel ??
They could probably use more coders to support this.
=Dan
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Hi Dan,
You've missed the point entirely. Yes, gEDA includes a PCB layout tool (PCB) which includes an autorouter. However, they are closely coupled and if you want to use the PCB autorouter you must start with gEDA EDA tool set and stay with it. There is no import/export capability so if you use KiCAD, FreePCB, EAGLE, etc then you are out of luck. This is the "lock in" which plagues the whole EDA technology because there are few if any interchange standards. There is no way to import/export PCBs in/out of gEDA AFAIK, at least from KiCAD. I can't tell if gEDA supports Specctra import/export necessary to use FreeRouting.net but doesn't appear so.
QAutorouter is a *much* better approach of decoupling the autorouter from PCB layout tool. Any EDA tool set that can export Specctra DSN and import Specctra SES files can use QAutorouter. Also since it has an API which allows multiple different free/open source autorouters to "plug in" the hobbyists can potentially use MUCS-PCB, Topological Autorouter, the gEDA PCB autorouter, the KiCAD autorouter (yuck), or new autorouters. Really the PCB layout tool and the PCB autorouter are so different they *should* be separate tools. Integration just leads to yet more EDA "lock in".
Personally, I won't even consider gEDA since I have 50+ complete boards in KiCAD format. KiCAD is not perfect by any stretch but it supports at least some level of EDA interchange standards (Specctra at least).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_EDA_software
Thanks
Andrew Lynch
Hello. Looking for a Franklin high speed digital printer, these were made in the 1960's and early 1970's.
The printer is a rack mount unit, and prints on adding machine width paper.
If you know of one, or even any information or manuals I would be extremely grateful for the help!
I have more information on the unit if anyone can help.
Best regards :)
Walter
At 09:57 AM 7/6/2011, Dave Caroline wrote:
>Did you read the comment in one of these threads where I stated Im out of a job
>paying is not an option
Maybe you can get a job at the library, scanning fiche for people.
- John
stuff theres racks side panels random filters parts no boards though case
screws and other random hardware some of the stuff is being tossed if
anyones interested in any of it let me know i will get some pics in the
next
few days my batteries were dead last night on the camera
i rescued a couple things like highdesity double sided floppies going to
go
through them and see what software if any is on them that might be worth
archiving and some 5 1/4 in floppy head cleaner disks new sealed 3M and
some
cases
also found this random plate
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6876/pic002sc.jpg
Copied from KiCAD-users mailing list. Hobbyists have long needed a
free/open source PCB autorouter for their EDA tool suites. One is now in
development. Please support this project. This is not my project but one I
strongly believe is very good for EDA hobbyists. Certainly useful for KiCAD
and maybe gEDA as well.
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Hash: SHA1
Hi All,
I'm working on a project here
http://sourceforge.net/projects/qautorouter/
It is an auto-router that is written in C++ on Qt application framework,
reads/writes specctra file format and uses a plug-in style of interface
for the router engines.
It is very alpha at this stage, I have much of the UI, file I/O, and the
plug-in API operational. I am working on a "Simple Router" plug-in at
the moment that is implementing a simplified version of the expanding
box algorithm. The Simple Router will be used as a sort of template for
debugging the plugin-api and as a template for developing more
sophisticated plug-ins. Toporouter would be a good one.
In any case, it would be great to get a few other people on-board, a
developer or two that is quite proficient in C++ would be very helpful,
some hands-on with Qt would help a lot too.
Someone to look after the Windows(tm) and Mac OS-X build and release
would be very helpful.
Someone to help with packaging; windows installer, Mac OSX installer,
and linux .deb, .rpm packages would be helpful as well.
If you're interested, please just send me a little about what you can
contribute, and your sourceforge id.
Kind Regards,
Mike Sharkey
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Hello
I will be in Salt Lake City on Thursday July 7th to pick up and move
ATEX computer rack system to Public Storage for now. If you can spare
30 minutes or an hour of your time please contact me by email.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com>
To:
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent:
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: Titan IV Missile Test
Equipment
> > On Sat, 2 Jul 2011, Nick Allen wrote:
>
>
> > The military even has air-insulated
> > boots for use
in the arctic that have a valve on them so they don't
crush
> > your
feet when you're flying.
>
> The nickname for them is "Bunny Boots"
- they look like white Micky
> Mouse boots and the valve is a source of
noob hazing (you tell someone
> new that they have to get the glycol
changed out in their new boots
> and send them to the motor pool/vehicle
maintenance facility, where
> everyone knows the joke...hilarity
ensues).
>
> If you forget to open the valve prior to take-off, they
get darn
> uncomfortable at altitude, and there's so much pressure that
the valve
> sticks (I tried it once intentionally, to see how much they
swelled
> up, and I didn't last until cruising altitude).
>
>
-ethan
Why a valve and not a hole? Surely if it had holes you wouldn't
need to
worry about opening it? Or are there times when you need the valve
closed?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Turnbull" <pete at dunnington.plus.com>
To:
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent:
Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Photographing fiche (Was: DEC
RD53 Manual
> On 05/07/2011 07:50, Dave Caroline
wrote:
>
> >>>> I don't think you need higher
resolution, just more magnification.
> >> More magnification can
make it feasable to photograph one frame of the
> >> fiche at a
time.
> >> Higher resolution may make it feasable to photograph the
entire fiche
card
> >> at once.
>
> You'd need an
awfully high-res sensor to do that!? Back-of-envelope
>
arithmetic:
> If you want something equivalent to scanning a 10.5x8 page
at 400dpi,
> you need 3200 pixels across a (portrait) page.
> The
1978 BA11-K fiche I have in front of me is a low-magnification (by
> DEC
standards one, and it's 16 pages across, but they're landscape
> format
pages, so that works out to 10.5 x 400 x 16 = 67,000 pixels wide,
> and
therefore the sensor would have to be about 67,000 x 48,000 =
>
3,216,000,000 pixels.? Thats 3216 megapixels.
> The 1987 Bulletin fiche I
have in front of me is 25 (portrait) pages
> across.? 400dpi x 8" x 25 =
80,000, which is even worse.
> Even if you accepted 100dpi, you still end
up needing a sensor of about
> 200 megapixels.
>
Would the
hubble telescope do? I assume it's digital because it makes it
quicker to get
images from it, and if it was film-based the film would have
to be huge,
right?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Will a flatbed photo (transparency) scanner not do? My Epson 4180 will
do 4800 x 9600 dpi and I should think a fiche would fit under the light
in the lid without an adapter, or one could make up some sort of fiche
adapter from polystyrene sheet from the model shop. If an entire fiche
does not fit at once, one could scan it in two passes.
/Jonas
I might have this one, can you look on the box and post the exact part number. Is it 28-265?
Thanks, Jim
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Hi Brian,
My son (age 11) bought the 200-in-1 kit at a garage sale last week but it was without a manual. Do you think you could scan the manual you have and send it to me? I am not much help for him with electronic gizmos I'm afriad.
Thank you,
Jeff Nickel
Hi everyone, could use some help identifying some equipment if you are
up to it.
I know it is some sort of test equipment for the Titan IV Missile, just
not sure what it was used for, and cannot find any literature (maybe you
can help).
Below is a link to the photos of the Titan IV Missile Test equipment,
notice it comes with paper tape ribbon (I assume some code is on it).
Also notice the "Air Pressure Equalizer" knob, this lets air in/our of
the case (it is sealed with a gasket). Do you know why it would have an
"Air Pressure Equalizer" knob? I assume this means it is used in
different air pressures, would this therefore be used in space as
opposed to on the ground in your opinion?
Photos Link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/NeXTprototype/TitanIVMissile3?authkey=Gv1sRgCL…
You should ask on the arocket mailing list:
http://exrocketry.net/mailman/listinfo/arocket
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:54:16 -0500
> From: Nick Allen <nick.allen at comcast.net>
> Subject: Titan IV Missile Test Equipment
> To: cctech at classiccmp.org
> Message-ID: <4E0F8578.7040901 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
>
> Hi everyone, could use some help identifying some equipment
> if you are
> up to it.
>
> I know it is some sort of test equipment for the Titan IV
> Missile, just
> not sure what it was used for, and cannot find any
> literature (maybe you
> can help).
>
> Below is a link to the photos of the Titan IV Missile Test
> equipment,
> notice it comes with paper tape ribbon (I assume some code
> is on it).?
> Also notice the "Air Pressure Equalizer" knob, this lets
> air in/our of
> the case (it is sealed with a gasket).? Do you know
> why it would have an
> "Air Pressure Equalizer" knob?? I assume this means it
> is used in
> different air pressures, would this therefore be used in
> space as
> opposed to on the ground in your opinion?
>
> Photos Link:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/NeXTprototype/TitanIVMissile3?authkey=Gv1sRgCL…
Ok, I have this CX-11 which is a half rack full of backplanes & flip-chips
and has also a half sized lights top panel. It's a Unibus controller to talk
to an IBM bus and tag device. There are 2 large 'In' connectors and also 2
'Out' connectors. I do have a manual which describes some generic IBM info,
but I would like to know what kind of device(s) could (if possible) directly
be connected to such a thing?
Thanks,
Ed
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I'll second that plea. I have a full 9221 mainframe (2 IO cages and 5
DASD) but NO cables. Sigh. Haven't found any here in England so far. So if
there are stacks of them eating up space under your raised floor, or in
your garage, please consider me too!
Thanks,
Colin Eby