On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
> Timing is everything. I just finished digesting Megan Gentry's and Doug
> Jones' module lists, normalizing the columns, and importing it into a
> secondary tab on a spreadsheet so that you can use VLOOKUP to
> dump any list of boards by handle number in the A-column and it fills
> out option name (KK8E, MS11...), bus type (if known), width (if known)
> and any notes about the item (taken from the module lists).
I'd like to round out my spreadsheet but the best lists are of PDP-8
and PDP-11 CPU, memory, and device controller boards. VAX
CPU boards, memory (11/750 and 11/730 nothwithstanding because
of their connection to the PDP-11/70), and CMI/MASSBUS/VAXBI/NMI, etc,
aren't as thoroughly documented. Does anyone have a good pointer to
such lists they'd like to share?
One can read a lot of handbooks to pick out a vast number of handle
numbers and option names, but it's so much easier to feed an existing
list through a text filter to append to the other, excellent-in-their-own-right
lists.
Thanks,
-ethan
I have a very nice Original Apple II System
With matching 9inch RCA Monitor
Disk II Drive
ThunderClock Plus Card
16k Language Card.
Applesoft ROMS
Will trade for a NeXT Cube System.
Will be at VCFMW/ECCC with the system
Thanks
Steve
http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html has a long list of
diagnostic and system software.
Cindy Croxton
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This is not a sales pitch, I promise.
My daughter is going to be selling PCB earrings at the upcoming
ECCC/VCFMW show, as she did last year. This year, she's asked how much
a cash register would cost, so she could look "professional" (she's 9,
it's cute, I know).
So, I thought: I have a tiny CBM-compatible 2.5" printer sitting here
doing nothing, a C64 or VIC is easy to pull off the shelf, wiring up a
small LCD is no issue, and I have cartridge stock to make an autorun
cart. But, I am lacking a cash drawer. I've looked online, but I'd
rather not spend $50-100 on something that has marginal utility...
Thus, I'm wondering if someone on list has an old beat up drawer (with a
spring and solenoid) they'd be interested in offloading inexpensively or
donating...
Jim
--
Jim Brain
brain at jbrain.comwww.jbrain.com
After offering it on the list a few month ago, I place on epay now
Item 370894321537 , I ship worldwide.
-Rik
Oh don't worry I keep one, but don't need two ;)
Bring out all your NeXT/OpenStep stuff to VCFMW
Me and a few others are bringing out some systems and we plan to have a
fully operational netinfo domain going at VCFMW.
So it can be black hardware, white hardware, Anything that Runs
NeXTstep/OpenStep or documetation, tshirts you name it. Lets have NeXT
be the biggest display there this year.
> Do you have a photo of the board? If it uses a fairly generic SCSI chipset
> it might be possible to narrow it down from a photo of the board. Maybe a
> chip collector "collected" it's CPU and/or EPROM(s)?
Bruce Ray helped me alot!
He sent me a copy of the manual.
Missing microprocessors are 80186... I will dig around for components with
correct package...
Andrea
> I think perhaps that you do not understand how a PLL really operates.
> In every case that I've ever worked with, the PLL center frequency is a
> multiple of the reference. (That, for example, is why having a 3GHz CPU
> clock on your personal computer that the reference frequency is always
> much lower than that 3GHz.
well, this is not completely correct... basic PLL does simple integer
multiplication,
but higher complexity PLLs could include dividers with variable module, or
even
more complex modern PLLs use a sort of "noise shaping" to achieve a
frequency
multiplication by N.M, where N is integer part, M is fractional part, often
with a
length of 16 or 24 bits...
I'm not talking about post-dividers, the VCO really works at the fractional
frequency.
By the way, a quite simple PLL 4x with a post-divider x3 could do the job.
PLL will try to keep aligned the edges of the reference signal with the
edges of the regenerated signal; but not all the edges could be aligned at
the same time,
because the frequency ration is not integer.
We have a situation like this, without a proper signal to reset the PLL
counter always in the same disc position, PLL will align randomly in one of
the following ways (number is a pulse, - is stable signal):
original 12 sector:
---0---------------1---------------2---------------3---------------4---------------5---------------6---
case 1 16 sector (0, 3, 6, etc are aligned):
---0----------1-----------2-----------3-----------4-----------5-----------6-----------7----------8---
case 2 16 sector (1, 4, 7, etc are aligned):
-------N-----------0----------1-----------2-----------3-----------4-----------5-----------6----------7---
case 3 16 sector (2, 5, 8, etc are aligned):
----------N-----------N-----------0----------1-----------2-----------3-----------4-----------5------
Of course the random choice of the pulse that will be aligned could let the
regenerated sector position shift by 1/3 of 2/3 of the original 12-sector.
> Slots in the hub ring.
> There are actually 13 and 17, one extra midway between the 12'th and
> 1'st for the index.
Ah-haaa! THAT added pulse should be used to solve the phase alignment
uncertain, thus starting to align always with the first sector!
Beside the digital implementation using microprocessors, that would have
an implicit problem of delay, cause by software latencies,
I would prefer a true PLL implementation, with a VCO driven at 4N the
reference signal, and a post-divider by 3N. As frequency of the pulses is
quite low,
a VCO working at higher frequency (always multiple of 4) could be preferable
for component choice, and a bigger divider (correspondent multiple of 3)
could
reduce the amount of jitter and offer a faster lock time.
The circuit could be simply realized using a 4046 CMOS as PLL/VCO and
a couple of dividers like 4040, 4024.
Andrea
Time for //GS monitor repair! :oD
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64631297/1.jpghttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64631297/2.jpg
I fixed my monitor and a friend's one. But both needs replacement of
flyback transformer. His can be fixed with a new focus divider, but mine was
already repaired (and the guy did a very poor job). Maybe anyone here knows
a source of replacement flyback transformers for this monitor. This is the
Applecolor RGB monitor, A2M6014, mitsubishi-sourced.
Thanks!
Alexandre Souza :o)
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[this message went out Friday to the N8VEM-S100 list but may have some
interest on CCTALK too. We are at 50% to enough S-100 80286 CPU board
pre-orders for a "production" PCB order. There are a few of the S-100 6502
CPU V2 boards left but the stack is shrinking fast.]
Hi
Some really great news today! Yahoo!
First, the S-100 6502 CPU V2 boards arrived! Yay! I will be sending them
out to those who pre-ordered first thing!
Second, at long last (assuming no more changes) the S-100 80286 CPU board
finished trace route optimization! This board is almost old enough to vote
it has been optimizing for so long. I am very happy to see it finally
emerge out of the basement computer. It is ready for "production" so if you
would like to get one or more of these exciting new S-100 80286 CPU boards
please do the new usual pre-order. I will set aside your board so you get
them right away!
Yay! Good news Friday!
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Hello.
I have a Zetaco SCZ3-2 board, probably a SCSI controller for Data
General machines.
This board seems to be in good shape, but unfortunately two square
sockets (for microprocessor I think)
are empty; anyway I could try to find a suitable replacement, if I only
knew what kind of IC is needed for.
I didn't find also any documentation or information about it.
Anybody has such board or could supply some info?
Thanks
Andrea
The seller is willing to send internationally, including EU and Brazil J
They will use your shipping number if you have one, or add freight costs to
the PayPal invoice.
Any customs fees, etc will be responsibility of the recipient.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
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Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6641 - Release Date: 09/05/13
I hate to let this go, but it just takes up too much space in my living
room
Its a PacMan Cocktail Arcade Table, monitor has been rebuilt, light
bulbs replaced
Has a Ms. PacMan board in it. But is fully operational
Can Deliver to ECCC/VCFMW if Paid for in advance
Hi, the jack your looking for is MMJ. Looks similar to RJ but different.
Regards,
Daniel,
Sent from my iPad
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> 1. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (David Riley)
> 2. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Paul Anderson)
> 3. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Paul Anderson)
> 4. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Jan-Benedict Glaw)
> 5. Re: Looking for software archive for "DRAM Camera"
> (David Ryskalczyk)
> 6. Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?) (Tony Duell)
> 7. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tony Duell)
> 8. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tony Duell)
> 9. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Tony Duell)
> 10. Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?) (Alexandre Souza)
> 11. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (David Riley)
> 12. Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?) (Peter Corlett)
> 13. Re: FS: 1200 baud external modem (Tothwolf)
> 14. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tothwolf)
> 15. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tothwolf)
> 16. Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle (Tothwolf)
> 17. Teletype Corp. motors (Jules Richardson)
> 18. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Richard)
> 19. Re: PNG image decompression (Andrew Burton)
> 20. Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17 (Paul Anderson)
> 21. Re: Toshiba CD-1000C Cartridge Tape Drive (Paxton Hoag)
> 22. Shameless push: HP 82231C Viper board on ebay (Rik Bos)
> 23. Looking for some basic, older tech... (Jonathan Katz)
> 24. Rare opportunity for IC chips dating back to the 70s; these
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:46:27 -0400
> From: David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <F6678946-DB72-48FD-B637-B53DD092AE0D at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>
>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>> keyboard adapter.
>>
>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>
> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
> technically an RJ11 (that refers to not only the plug style,
> but also the wiring scheme; in particular, RJ11 specifies 6P2C,
> while RJ14 specifies 6P4C, but neither of them are necessarily
> RJ-anything).
>
> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
> you really want DE9 plugs).
>
>
> - Dave
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:04:43 -0500
> From: Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID:
> <CACwhfuOd_wzDBDRfuHX1w8C_nbGvBEW-r_sXoCfwKZ64gqamjQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12 but
> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a DEC VT11 and a corresponding VR14 or VR17 monitor.
>>
>> For those who are not familiar with them, a VT11 is a vector refresh
>> display processor for a UNIBUS PDP-11.
>>
>> It consists of three hex-height modules M7013, M7014 YA and A320, a
>> custom VT11 backplane for these modules, an associated VR14 or VR17
>> monitor and cables from the modules to the monitor.
>>
>> VT11 Graphic Display Processor
>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3136>
>>
>> VR14/VR17 CRT Display Monitor User's Manual:
>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3271>
>> --
>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
>> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
>> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:11:51 -0500
> From: Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID:
> <CACwhfuPHRVrNit1wqH2txJfvZho79YmwawJDdkbTk41o3H5jCg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> By the way, the M7014 and M7014-YA are only different in that the -YA has
> on board terminators, I think.
>
> The VT!! backplane is the weirdest unibus backplane I ever saw. It's a 4
> slot backplane with 3 hex boards in it, plus unibus in and out. Be very
> careful installing it. Think about it...
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12 but
>> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for a DEC VT11 and a corresponding VR14 or VR17 monitor.
>>>
>>> For those who are not familiar with them, a VT11 is a vector refresh
>>> display processor for a UNIBUS PDP-11.
>>>
>>> It consists of three hex-height modules M7013, M7014 YA and A320, a
>>> custom VT11 backplane for these modules, an associated VR14 or VR17
>>> monitor and cables from the modules to the monitor.
>>>
>>> VT11 Graphic Display Processor
>>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3136>
>>>
>>> VR14/VR17 CRT Display Monitor User's Manual:
>>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3271>
>>> --
>>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>>> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
>>> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
>>> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:49:36 +0200
> From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw at lug-owl.de>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <20130905184936.GF3218 at lug-owl.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> On Thu, 2013-09-05 09:02:44 -0600, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>> keyboard adapter.
>>
>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>
> I think it's 4p4c. However, the jacks are built so that a "smaller"
> plug will even fit into a larger jack, so a 6p6c (RJ11, RJ12, RJ13 and
> some more) will also work.
>
> MfG, JBG
>
> --
> Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw at lug-owl.de +49-172-7608481
> Signature of: Eine Freie Meinung in einem Freien Kopf
> the second : f?r einen Freien Staat voll Freier B?rger.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:03:53 -0400
> From: David Ryskalczyk <d235j.1 at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Looking for software archive for "DRAM Camera"
> Message-ID:
> <CAB3bDi6yiL1DYm4iG0bAZds=-XM0Wre4mgri5MQSSyTd4_jcAg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> A quick google and I found it here:
> ftp://moscoso.org/pub/electronics/cookbook/video/index.html
> ftp://moscoso.org/pub/electronics/cookbook/video/kuckuck.zip
>
> --Dave
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, All,
>>
>> We've talked about using a 4116 or 4164 for an image sensor, as was
>> done in the days of yore when CCD image sensors were exotic and
>> expensive, and I've tracked down some info (beyond just the Ciarcia
>> Circuit Celler articles in BYTE Sep/Oct 1983), but several forum posts
>> and a Russian webpage or two point to "kuckuck.zip", which I can't
>> find online nor via archive.org.
>>
>> One former location:
>> http://www.vampyr.msk.ru/electroniks/kuckuck.zip
>>
>> Did anyone on this list happen to snag a copy? The oldest reference I
>> found to it was on a robotics forum in 1997. The newest is around
>> 2007, with a mention that other links to that file were dead even
>> then. My best guess from browsing archive.org is that the file was
>> there until 2008. It's not there now, and archive.org didn't keep a
>> copy of it.
>>
>> I decided to go digging because I did the "decapped 4116" in an Apple
>> II, 30 years ago (I still have that DRAM on my pads of ancient chips),
>> and a friend of mine has recently delved into retrocomputing on the
>> Apple II and I was telling him tales about hardware hacking the Apple.
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance in tracking this down,
>>
>> -ethan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:49:42 +0100 (BST)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?)
> Message-ID: <m1VHecm-000J4cC at p850ug1>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>
>> Hi, I dont have , or cant find as I thought I did have it, the actual data
>
> Yes, the data sheet was not published in the common data book that
> included the rest of the teletext IC chipset.
>
> I thought I had the data sheet somewhere too. Doubtless it will turn up
> sometime.
>
>> sheet but I do have the Mullard Technical publication, M81-0001, "LSI
>> circuits for teletext and viedata THE LUCY GENERATION" and this has a
>> circuit diagram which shows the pinouts of the 5070 if this would help?
>
> That does sound useful. If you have it electronically, or can scan the
> page(s) with the SAA5070 pinout, could you send it to my other account at
> tony_duell at yahoo.co.uk
>
> THnaks in advance.
>
> -tony
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:55:01 +0100 (BST)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <m1VHehu-000J4dC at p850ug1>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>
>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>> keyboard adapter.
>>
>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>
> No, it looks like a 4p4c to me. The first digit gives the number of
> 'positions' (the maximum number of contacts there could be), the second
> gives the number of contacts actually fitted.
>
> It's not an RJ-anything (just as the 10baseT ethenet conenctor is not an
> RJ45, it's an 8p8c, nothing more). RJ11 (or whatever) implies a
> particular set of ocnnections for telephone wiring. This can never be
> right for a keyboard.
>
> -tony
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:58:29 +0100 (BST)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <m1VHelG-000J4eC at p850ug1>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>
>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>
>> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
>
> It looks narrower than a 6p housing to me... I would check. If yoy are in
> the States, the common telephone plug is a 6p2c or 6p4c. If it looks
> narrower than that, it's a 4p4c.
>
>> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
>> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
>> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
>> you really want DE9 plugs).
>
> Over here they are often listed as 'FCC68' connectors. I am not sure what
> FCC regualtions part 68 actually specifies, but I assume that's where the
> name comes from.
>
> -tony
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:04:08 +0100 (BST)
> From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID: <m1VHeqk-000J4fC at p850ug1>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>
>> By the way, the M7014 and M7014-YA are only different in that the -YA has
>> on board terminators, I think.
>
> One version of one of the boards (M7014?) had the GT40 firmware ROMs on
> it too. nybble-wide PROMs, I forget how big (256 locations?). All the
> boards had the positions for these ROMs, you can solder them in (or fit
> sockets) if you wnt to. There may be some bufferes to add too, but it's
> fairly obvious.
>
> I can't rememebr about bus termination, if it was an option, it'll just
> be a load of resistors to add I think
>
>>
>> The VT!! backplane is the weirdest unibus backplane I ever saw. It's a 4
>> slot backplane with 3 hex boards in it, plus unibus in and out. Be very
>> careful installing it. Think about it...
>
> Unibus In is in the normal place, Unibus Out is below it. So if it's the
> last backplane in the syustem there's no problem, just put in the M920
> jumber as usual and an M930 terminator in the slot below it. If it's the
> last backplane in a cabinet, that's no problem either, again fit the M920
> as usual and plug the Unibus ribbon cable going to the next box into the
> Unibus Out slot under the M920. But if it's in the middle of a box, you
> ahve to run a cable from the Unibus out slot to the Unibus In of the next
> backplane.
>
> -tony
>
>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12 but
>>> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a DEC VT11 and a corresponding VR14 or VR17 monitor.
>>>>
>>>> For those who are not familiar with them, a VT11 is a vector refresh
>>>> display processor for a UNIBUS PDP-11.
>>>>
>>>> It consists of three hex-height modules M7013, M7014 YA and A320, a
>>>> custom VT11 backplane for these modules, an associated VR14 or VR17
>>>> monitor and cables from the modules to the monitor.
>>>>
>>>> VT11 Graphic Display Processor
>>>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3136>
>>>>
>>>> VR14/VR17 CRT Display Monitor User's Manual:
>>>> <http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,3271>
>>>> --
>>>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>>>> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
>>>> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
>>>> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:39:28 -0300
> From: "Alexandre Souza" <alexandre.tabajara at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?)
> Message-ID: <06537B162ABB4E6692D88C7470937C30 at desktaba>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>
> There are only 4 pages of info, but here it is...(sent to Tony)
>
> ---
> Enviado do meu Motorola PT550
> Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?)
>
>
>>>
>>> Hi, I dont have , or cant find as I thought I did have it, the actual
>>> data
>>
>> Yes, the data sheet was not published in the common data book that
>> included the rest of the teletext IC chipset.
>>
>> I thought I had the data sheet somewhere too. Doubtless it will turn up
>> sometime.
>>
>>> sheet but I do have the Mullard Technical publication, M81-0001, "LSI
>>> circuits for teletext and viedata THE LUCY GENERATION" and this has a
>>> circuit diagram which shows the pinouts of the 5070 if this would help?
>>
>> That does sound useful. If you have it electronically, or can scan the
>> page(s) with the SAA5070 pinout, could you send it to my other account at
>> tony_duell at yahoo.co.uk
>>
>> THnaks in advance.
>>
>> -tony
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:02:23 -0400
> From: David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID: <3BD92993-C255-45A6-8A7F-CF96B3BB8DC3 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:58 PM, ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
>
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>>>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>>
>>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>>
>>> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
>>
>> It looks narrower than a 6p housing to me... I would check. If yoy are in
>> the States, the common telephone plug is a 6p2c or 6p4c. If it looks
>> narrower than that, it's a 4p4c.
>
> Given what everyone has said, that's probably true, though I thought
> the jack was wide enough to accomodate a 6P plug (the ones that are
> actually attached to the keyboards are 4P, though). I have quite a
> few in my basement, but I can't go down to look just now.
>
>>> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
>>> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
>>> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
>>> you really want DE9 plugs).
>>
>> Over here they are often listed as 'FCC68' connectors. I am not sure what
>> FCC regualtions part 68 actually specifies, but I assume that's where the
>> name comes from.
>
> Fascinating... that's probably the most useless specification I've
> seen in a while, considering that most Europeans have no need to
> know a damned thing about FCC regulations.
>
>
> - Dave
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:05:19 +0100
> From: Peter Corlett <abuse at cabal.org.uk>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: SAA5070 Datasheet (Tony Duell?)
> Message-ID: <20130905200518.GA11954 at mooli.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 04:28:27PM -0300, Alexandre Souza wrote:
>> In 17/11/2011 Tony Duell asked for the datasheet of SAA5070. Did yo got it,
>> Tony? I'm looking for it too.
>
> There's a little bit of information on pp. 166-169 of this PDF that I found
> rattling around:
>
> http://abuse.mooli.org.uk/1982_Signetics_MOS_Microprocessor_Data_Manual.pdf
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:05:48 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: FS: 1200 baud external modem
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1309051448130.4802 at brioche.invalid.domain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Charles wrote:
>
>> FS: one "BSR 1207" external modem. New in the (very old) box. I assume
>> it's 1200 baud. Runs on 120 vac. Can send pic to interested parties. $5
>> plus shipping (probably around $3-4, it's light) from US zip 65775.
>
> Going from my modem doc archives, I think this modem was made by
> Capetronic and is a model MD1207. I'm pretty sure you are correct about it
> being 1200 baud. In fact, if you search down for 1207 in this list you'll
> find it listed:
> http://cd.textfiles.com/pcmedic/main/referenc/text/modem_s.txt
>
> BSR (Birmingham Sound Reproducers) had remarketing division that in the
> mid to late 1990s would buy low end and nearly obsolete computer upgrade
> type parts (cdrom drives, sound cards, modems, etc) which would rebrand
> them with their red BSR logo and then sell them via mail order out of
> computer magazines (Computer Shopper, etc). I still have a proprietary
> interface single speed caddy-type cdrom drive and 8-bit ISA
> interface/sound card that someone I knew purchased from them in the 1990s
> who was under the impression at the time that it was a modern
> "Soundblaster" card and fast 4x cdrom drive. He got a few years use out of
> it before it was replaced with a real Soundblaster and much faster IDE
> interface cdrom drive.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:12:27 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1309051507000.4802 at brioche.invalid.domain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
>> On Thu, 2013-09-05 09:02:44 -0600, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>
>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>
>> I think it's 4p4c. However, the jacks are built so that a "smaller"
>> plug will even fit into a larger jack, so a 6p6c (RJ11, RJ12, RJ13 and
>> some more) will also work.
>
> No, generally one should not use a smaller modular plug in a larger
> modular jack. Most plugs do not have relief slots next to the outermost
> contacts and the polycarbonate plug body will permanently deform the outer
> contacts in the modular jack. This happens a lot with 8P8C (RJ45) jacks
> that people attempt to plug phones into that use 6P4C, 6P2C, etc (RJ11)
> plugs.
>
> There /are/ a few 6P type modular plugs out there that do have relief
> openings that will somewhat fit 8P8C jacks, but they are very uncommon.
> The plug fit is still loose and it isn't something the modular plug
> standards (from Bell System) ever really intended.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:18:39 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1309051518280.4802 at brioche.invalid.domain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, David Riley wrote:
>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>
>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>
>> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
>> technically an RJ11 (that refers to not only the plug style,
>> but also the wiring scheme; in particular, RJ11 specifies 6P2C,
>> while RJ14 specifies 6P4C, but neither of them are necessarily
>> RJ-anything).
>>
>> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
>> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
>> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
>> you really want DE9 plugs).
>
> That's pretty much the gist of it. I had to push very hard to get the
> RJ11, RJ45, etc stuff corrected on Wikipedia but eventually prevailed. The
> main argument had been that "well, /everyone/ calls them RJ11, RJ45, etc",
> however in the end, there was plenty of documentation on the misuse of the
> RJ (Registered Jack) nomenclature.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:51:24 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: dec lk201 keyboard plug and receptacle
> Message-ID:
> <alpine.DEB.2.00.1309051519060.4802 at brioche.invalid.domain>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2013, Tony Duell wrote:
>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> probably a stupid one, but we have so much fun here discussing the
>>>> right nomenclature of connectors ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for the right jack/receptacle for a lk201 keyboard for an
>>>> keyboard adapter.
>>>>
>>>> so, is this a "RJ11 6p4c"?
>>>
>>> I believe (though I could be wrong) that it is a 6P4C, but not
>>
>> It looks narrower than a 6p housing to me... I would check. If yoy are in
>> the States, the common telephone plug is a 6p2c or 6p4c. If it looks
>> narrower than that, it's a 4p4c.
>>
>>> If you're trying to buy the plugs, though, you probably want
>>> to search for RJ11 because that's what most stores sell them
>>> as (just like you want to search for "DB9" serial plugs when
>>> you really want DE9 plugs).
>>
>> Over here they are often listed as 'FCC68' connectors. I am not sure what
>> FCC regualtions part 68 actually specifies, but I assume that's where the
>> name comes from.
>
> The Registered Jack system/standards came out of Bell System and was used
> to replace the hard-wired system for their phones. The FCC adopted the
> Registered Jack standards into Part 68 as part of the later deregulation.
> This was well before any sort of IEC adoption of these modular connectors,
> although it looks like Wikipedia currently gets that partly wrong. Sigh.
>
> Technically a 4P4C "handset cord" plug doesn't even have a Registered Jack
> designation, since RJ11, RJ14, etc only apply to the telephone interface
> itself, but that didn't stop people from calling them RJ9, RJ10, RJ22,
> etc, similar to people calling 10P10C plugs RJ50.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 16:03:16 -0500
> From: Jules Richardson <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com>
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Teletype Corp. motors
> Message-ID: <5228F194.5040002 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed
>
>
> I found a small pile of boxed NOS Teletype corp. motors in a junk store
> earlier:
>
> small, p/n 177870 (115VAC, 3250rpm at 60Hz)
> small w/reduction gearbox, p/n 193958 (115VAC, 110rpm at 60Hz)
> medium, p/n 319392 (115VAC, 1725rpm at 60Hz)
> medium dual-shaft, p/n 337286 (115VAC, 3600rpm at 60Hz)
> medium with frame, capacitor & thermal reset, "28F motor
> unit" (3600rpm at 60Hz)
> medium dual-shaft, p/n 195801 (115V, 3600rpm at 60Hz)
> large, p/n 159739, marked as "unit motor 28C"
>
> There are a few dates which place them around the late 1960's / early
> 1970's. There's a wiring diagram in with the "28F motor unit" which claims
> to be for "CXB-1 and MU43 motor unit".
>
> Any ideas what equipment they were for? Model 28 machine, perhaps, given
> the 28C and 28F references...
>
> cheers
>
> Jules
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:22:40 -0600
> From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
> To: cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID: <E1VHh0i-0001LD-KW at shell.xmission.com>
>
>
> In article <CACwhfuOd_wzDBDRfuHX1w8C_nbGvBEW-r_sXoCfwKZ64gqamjQ at mail.gmail.com>,
> Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12 but
>> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>
> We talked about it on the phone, but I never got any pictures or a price.
>
> The ball is in your court.
> --
> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:38:17 +0100
> From: "Andrew Burton" <aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: PNG image decompression
> Message-ID: <004501ceaa80$44836280$2efdf93e at user8459cef6fa>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Pope" <pet4032 at gmail.com>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: PNG image decompression
>
>
>> Sorry I can't help you with the PNG decompression, but I think it is
>> very cool that you are working on a new Amiga game! Do you have a
>> website for the work-in-progress details?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bryan
>
> Apologies for the slow reply...
>
> I have just finished (as of Tuesday 3rd Sept) the ASM code to decode 16
> colour images produced by Personal Paint (Amiga). I have started adding code
> to decode 16 colour images from MS Paint - which shouldn't take long as all
> the hard work decoding the IDAT data has already been done :)
>
>
> Here's a link to a page where all the latest info regarding my game will be
> displayed.
>
> http://www.aliensrcooluk.com/mysite/glists/my_amigagames2
>
>
> You can find a list of new Amiga games on the English Amiga Board too:
>
> http://eab.abime.net/amiga-scene/68891-amiga-games-wip-released-index.html
>
>
> Mine isn't listed their yet. Once it is playable I shall ask them to add it
> to the list :)
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew B
> aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:15:51 -0500
> From: Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC VT11 with VR14/VR17
> Message-ID:
> <CACwhfuO16pevQN5bwxnsDnEBTS3scgpqP3cf0=2+dSEDHxzdqw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Sorry Richard, that was 2 or 3 surgeries ago.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> In article <
>> CACwhfuOd_wzDBDRfuHX1w8C_nbGvBEW-r_sXoCfwKZ64gqamjQ at mail.gmail.com>,
>> Paul Anderson <useddec at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I have extra VT11s, but I'm also looking the VR14 or 17. I have a VR12
>> but
>>> I think it might have to get hacked to use on the VT11.
>>
>> We talked about it on the phone, but I never got any pictures or a price.
>>
>> The ball is in your court.
>> --
>> "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
>> http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
>> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
>> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
>> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:04:14 -0700
> From: Paxton Hoag <innfoclassics at gmail.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: Toshiba CD-1000C Cartridge Tape Drive
> Message-ID:
> <CAL2B=mH-RopS6kXSdwZr_kw3g4-L-bwcCp8khqF5QBF+Sed0eQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>> Has anyone come across one of these before and more importantly (to me!)
>> has anyone any data sheets or a manual on the tape drive.
>>
>> The drive has a Toshiba label on it saying "Cartridge Tape Drive MTH 0551
>> F001 Model No. CD-1000C" and has a direct drive capstan.
>>
>> It looks like a 1/2" Cartridge Drive and it was used on the Data General
>> Desktop Generation E6270 drive. I can find no mention of it on the internet
>> so far!
>
>
> I had a couple of those go through my hands. I really liked them although
> they were not successful.
>
> The hard drives were 15 meg and it would take two modules. I would be
> surprised if the tape drive was larger than 30meg.
>
> Looking forward to pictures.
>
> Paxton
> --
> Paxton Hoag
> Astoria, OR
> USA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:16:50 +0200
> From: "Rik Bos" <hp-fix at xs4all.nl>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Shameless push: HP 82231C Viper board on ebay
> Message-ID: <001201ceaae1$d5558c00$8000a400$(a)xs4all.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I placed one of my Viper boards on epay, it includes manuals and software.
>
> Item: 370891646638
>
> I also placed some HP-41 Application Pac's on epay
>
> Petroleum Fluids
>
> Navigation
>
> Math
>
> Stat
>
> And others
>
>
>
> Some items are auctions other fixed price.
>
> For fixed price items I'm always open for reasonable offers.
>
>
>
> -Rik
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:07:21 -0400
> From: Jonathan Katz <jon at jonworld.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Looking for some basic, older tech...
> Message-ID:
> <CAEOZr+3-bQ-8qXdCqqr5m5YY1ksP7eHLuqAA3pn=i0MX4VNARQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> All,
>
> I'm working on my STEM outreach project, and I need some "props." These
> items can be broken, as they're supposed to be passed around and examined
> by elementary-school aged children.
>
> I'm looking for the following...
>
> Punch Cards (used, unused, scrap, etc.)
> 8" Floppy
> Paper Tape(?)
> Sextant (long shot, I know. I'm reaching out to some pilots I know.)
>
>
> --
> -Jon
> Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:23:39 -0500
> From: "Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com>
> To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Rare opportunity for IC chips dating back to the 70s; these
> are NEW
> Message-ID: <01ad01ceab15$10224f70$3066ee50$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> One of my recyclers has provided me with an Excel spreadsheet of IC chips
> that date back to the 1970s.
>
> All are NEW.
>
> She is willing to sell in small quantities to end users, and will accept
> PayPal for payment.
>
> Prices are by offer, there is no set pricing. Please be fair, since this is
> an experiment to see if she will let me offer other old stuff out to the end
> users.
>
>
>
> Please email me at sales at elecplus.com if you want the spreadsheet.
>
> I will include instructions for contacting her directly.
>
>
>
> Cindy Croxton
>
> Electronics Plus
>
> _____
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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>
>
>
> End of cctalk Digest, Vol 121, Issue 6
> **************************************
Hi
The S-100 6502 CPU V2 PCBs have arrived!
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oard.htm
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There are still a few boards left in case there are any late comers or those
builders who did not want to pre-order.
The PCBs will be $20 each as per the usual arrangement. Shipping in the US
is $3 for a single PCB and $2 for each additional PCB. Shipping
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This is for the bare basics USPS first class postage with no tracking or
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arrangement.
Please send a PayPal to LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM and I will send your board(s)
right away!
Please contact me if you have any questions. Thanks and have a nice day!
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So I've had a 3b2 sitting on a shelf for the past few years. Prior to
that, it lived in car trucks and basements, since about November 1993.
Presumably, it was never powered on.
A couple weekends ago, I ran across it while cleaning and, weighing the
risks, connected it to a terminal and powered it on.
It booted happily, checked its disks successfully and allowed me to add an
unprivileged user account.
It's running System V Release 3.1 for the AT&T 3B2, Version 2.
Other than the unsurprisingly dead Tadiran clock battery, it's pretty
cool. It even has an ethernet board.
The one thing I can't do, however, is change the root password because I
don't have the install diskettes. From my research, I've seen that a 3b2
without install disks can be considered "down" for all intents and purposes.
Can anyone contact me on or off list about getting originals or copies of
the install disks?
Thanks.
Anthony
All,
I'm working on my STEM outreach project, and I need some "props." These
items can be broken, as they're supposed to be passed around and examined
by elementary-school aged children.
I'm looking for the following...
Punch Cards (used, unused, scrap, etc.)
8" Floppy
Paper Tape(?)
Sextant (long shot, I know. I'm reaching out to some pilots I know.)
--
-Jon
Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.
Hi,
I found a box with an Apple IIgs plus some bits which go with it (keyboard,
maybe an hard drive or floppy disk drive).
The Apple IIgs is an Apple II on steroids : 16 bits, up to 8 MB of RAM,
etc. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIGS
If someone is interested, drop me a mail, I'll make an inventory of what's
available.
--
Stephane
One of my recyclers has provided me with an Excel spreadsheet of IC chips
that date back to the 1970s.
All are NEW.
She is willing to sell in small quantities to end users, and will accept
PayPal for payment.
Prices are by offer, there is no set pricing. Please be fair, since this is
an experiment to see if she will let me offer other old stuff out to the end
users.
Please email me at sales at elecplus.com if you want the spreadsheet.
I will include instructions for contacting her directly.
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
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I placed one of my Viper boards on epay, it includes manuals and software.
Item: 370891646638
I also placed some HP-41 Application Pac's on epay
Petroleum Fluids
Navigation
Math
Stat
And others
Some items are auctions other fixed price.
For fixed price items I'm always open for reasonable offers.
-Rik
Has anyone come across one of these before and more importantly (to me!) has anyone any data sheets or a manual on the tape drive.
The drive has a Toshiba label on it saying "Cartridge Tape Drive MTH 0551 F001 Model No. CD-1000C" and has a direct drive capstan.
It looks like a 1/2" Cartridge Drive and it was used on the Data General Desktop Generation E6270 drive. I can find no mention of it on the internet so far!
Thanks, Mark
Hi,
I am in the process of working on a new Amiga game, but I have the
graphics saved in .PNG format. I could convert them to the much
easier to decompress .IFF format, but .PNG image save many more
bytes (e.g image is 15KB saved as an .IFF vs. 9KB as a .PNG).
I have sucessfully decoded all the easy stuff, but am currently trying
to decode the IDAT chunk (where the image data is stored).
The format of the data is defined as follows (straight out of the RFC1951
Deflate Compression document available online):
??? 5 Bits: HLIT, # of Literal/Length codes - 257 (257 - 286)
??? 5 Bits: HDIST, # of Distance codes - 1 (1 - 32)
??? 4 Bits: HCLEN, # of Code Length codes - 4 (4 - 19)
??? (HCLEN + 4) x 3 bits: code lengths for the code length
??? alphabet given just above, in the order: 16, 17, 18,
??? 0, 8, 7, 9, 6, 10, 5, 11, 4, 12, 3, 13, 2, 14, 1, 15
??? These code lengths are interpreted as 3-bit integers
??? (0-7); as above, a code length of 0 means the
??? corresponding symbol (literal/length or distance code
??? length) is not used.
??? HLIT + 257 code lengths for the literal/length alphabet,
??? encoded using the code length Huffman code
??? HDIST + 1 code lengths for the distance alphabet,
??? encoded using the code length Huffman code
??? The actual compressed data of the block,
??? encoded using the literal/length and distance Huffman
??? codes
??? The literal/length symbol 256 (end of data),
??? encoded using the literal/length Huffman code.
All the documents I found online either say use the zlib library or point to
the RFC1951 document :(
Does anyone know how to decode the literal / length (HLIT) and distance
codes (HDIST)?
Huffman compression was always something I found hard, but it seemed
much easier after finding this page online:
http://www.cs.duke.edu/csed/poop/huff/info/
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
I found a small pile of boxed NOS Teletype corp. motors in a junk store
earlier:
small, p/n 177870 (115VAC, 3250rpm at 60Hz)
small w/reduction gearbox, p/n 193958 (115VAC, 110rpm at 60Hz)
medium, p/n 319392 (115VAC, 1725rpm at 60Hz)
medium dual-shaft, p/n 337286 (115VAC, 3600rpm at 60Hz)
medium with frame, capacitor & thermal reset, "28F motor
unit" (3600rpm at 60Hz)
medium dual-shaft, p/n 195801 (115V, 3600rpm at 60Hz)
large, p/n 159739, marked as "unit motor 28C"
There are a few dates which place them around the late 1960's / early
1970's. There's a wiring diagram in with the "28F motor unit" which claims
to be for "CXB-1 and MU43 motor unit".
Any ideas what equipment they were for? Model 28 machine, perhaps, given
the 28C and 28F references...
cheers
Jules
FS: one "BSR 1207" external modem. New in the (very old) box. I
assume it's 1200 baud. Runs on 120 vac. Can send pic to interested
parties. $5 plus shipping (probably around $3-4, it's light) from
US zip 65775.
thanks
Charles
Hi, All,
We've talked about using a 4116 or 4164 for an image sensor, as was
done in the days of yore when CCD image sensors were exotic and
expensive, and I've tracked down some info (beyond just the Ciarcia
Circuit Celler articles in BYTE Sep/Oct 1983), but several forum posts
and a Russian webpage or two point to "kuckuck.zip", which I can't
find online nor via archive.org.
One former location:
http://www.vampyr.msk.ru/electroniks/kuckuck.zip
Did anyone on this list happen to snag a copy? The oldest reference I
found to it was on a robotics forum in 1997. The newest is around
2007, with a mention that other links to that file were dead even
then. My best guess from browsing archive.org is that the file was
there until 2008. It's not there now, and archive.org didn't keep a
copy of it.
I decided to go digging because I did the "decapped 4116" in an Apple
II, 30 years ago (I still have that DRAM on my pads of ancient chips),
and a friend of mine has recently delved into retrocomputing on the
Apple II and I was telling him tales about hardware hacking the Apple.
Thanks for any assistance in tracking this down,
-ethan
Steve,
Unfortunately No.
It is much more basic in design than that and is all metal in construction. Still am none the wiser on the device. I will try and put up a picture this weekend to see if it jogs anyones memory.
Mark
Hi,
Does it look the same as this Fujitsu-manufactured drive which was used
in the DC range of machines for a while?
http://stephenmerrony.co.uk/dg/gallery/Parts/79.html#prettyPhoto[28]/4/
/Stephen Merrony
http://www.stephenmerrony.co.uk/dg//
On 01/09/2013 09:28, Mark Darvill wrote:
> Has anyone come across one of these before and more importantly (to me!) has anyone any data sheets or a manual on the tape drive.
>
> The drive has a Toshiba label on it saying "Cartridge Tape Drive MTH 0551 F001 Model No. CD-1000C" and has a direct drive capstan.
>
> It looks like a 1/2" Cartridge Drive and it was used on the Data General Desktop Generation E6270 drive. I can find no mention of it on the internet so far!
>
> Thanks, Mark
>
I have somewhere a QIC60 or QIC150 tape of the TI 34010 development
software for SunOS (not Solaris). As I recall, it includes a C compiler
(must have as we were doing an X server). I'd be willing to find and send
it to someone capable of handling a 20 something year old tape not stored
in ideal conditions.
KJ
I'm looking for IBM System801 documentation and software
yet to surface. I've noticed three documents on bitsavers -
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/system801/
Anyone have anything? I would like to build an emulator.
Thanks Leon! This is great! That's three of the S-100 68K CPU boards
confirmed running "in the wild"
This board has been a long standing dream of mine so it is wonderful to see
it come to pass.
http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/68673583/S-100%2068k%20Running.jpghttp://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/68673581/S-100%2068k%20Comp%20Side.jpghttp://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/68000%20Board/68K%20CPU%20B
oard.htm
This is proof of what we can do together when we focus our efforts on a
goal.
There is much more to do! Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
From: n8vem-s100 at googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem-s100 at googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Elsid
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:50 AM
To: n8vem-s100 at googlegroups.com
Subject: [N8VEM-S100:1864] Re: S-100 68K CPU board V3
I just got my 68k going completely, tonight.
It's has a 16MHz oscillator so it's the 68HC000P8 is running at its rated
8MHz. It seems quite stable even on the extension card.
Master slave switching is functional, so I can now switch between the Z80,
the 8086 and the 68k. I would have killed for a system like this in the
80's. I still think it's pretty cool today.
I think I've got processor fever. Which processor board is next?
I'll post some photos on the wiki soon.
John, I used your S100 Computers guide which was great - thank you. I found
a few small errors in the guide so I'll send you a list of corrections
later.
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 9:43:45 AM UTC+10, lynchaj wrote:
Hi
Has anyone gotten their S-100 68K CPU board V3 working?
I'd appreciate a status update. Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
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Clearing out in preparation for a move, Cleaning out my storage unit as
well
Commodore C64C System with Power supply, 1571 drive and 1541 Drive.
Works Good
Comes with a bunch of joysticks, box of software and printer
interfaces. 1902 Monitor Shreddz 64 Guitar Hero Interface with Guitar,
$60 dollars
Dell OptiPlex GX110 System with OpenStep 4.2 Installed 256MB RAM, 8GB
HDD, 3C905TX Ethernet Card- Just add a SB16 and you got a fully
operational and supported OpenStep/NeXTStep Box. $75 dollars
Apple II Plus System
1 Disk II Drive
Monitor ///
Monitor /// Stand
Kensington System Saver
Works Great $100
Sun Sparcstation 5 system
96MB RAM 2GB HDD
Needs OS Reinstalled
$20 dollars
Lots of Apple Extended Keyboard II's $5 dollars each
Lots of AppleDesign Keyboards $5 dollars each
Apple Color Monitor 100s' Digital RGB Monitor for Apple II's $40
dollars each, most need recapped but are otherwise in good shape
Apple Monitor //'s Yellowed but working $10 dollars each
Apple 5.25inch Disk Drives $10 dollars each tested & Working
Apple 3.5 inch Drives $10 dollars each tested & working
SCSI Cables $2 bucks each, just tell me what ya need
Vintage Rotary Telephones- Stromberg Carlson, Western Electric, ITT-
All Desktop Sets $15 bucks each Mainly in white and beige with a olive
green here and there
Commodore C112 Calculator in original carrying case, Nice shape $30 dollars
Big box of syquest 88MB, Jaz Cartridges, Syquest 270 and Zip 100 Media
$40 bucks for the box- Will ship media mail cheap- Will almost fill a
home depot medium box.
Beige PowerMac G3 with 256MB RAM, 120GB HDD, DVD. Works nice $20
dollars. Good Legacy Box to work with SCSI and IDE stuff
Echo II Speech Synthesizer Card & Speaker for Apple II $25 dollars,
lets your Apple II Speak
Misc Apple Networking- Lots of phonenet interfaces $10 dollars for a
box full
TI Silent 700 Travelmate 1200 Terminal- Works fine With AC Adapter $50
dollars
Lots more to come. PayPal accepted- eBay feedback under cheermom248,
Local Pick up is welcomed
Since we've talked about this several times before,
I should have mined our own archives better...
(from the archives, dated 2004-05-30 15:00:46)
http://marc.info/?l=classiccmp&m=108592954702712
Thanks, Phil Pemberton, for posting a good link to it 9 years ago...
http://www.kurzschluss.com/kuckuck/kuckuck.zip
And thanks to Martin Kurz for putting it together in the first place.
-ethan
A DEC VT78 system is available in Phoenix Arizona area. Email
vt78 at pdp8online.com if interested. I can make you some boot disks if
you need them. Email me if you need disks.
The email I received about the system:
I have an old DEC VT78 system originally used in an auto parts store for
inventory control, invoicing, office management (billing, accounts payable,
receivables). It consists of the VT78, RX?? 8" floppy dual drive, DECPrinter I,
and the cart that goes with it. The system was purchased around 1980 unless it
was the second one purchased a couple of years later (probably the one from
1980). The system is currently stored such that I cannot make out which set of
drives it has.
I had, at one time, the original docs and system disks but did some cleaning up
in the house a few years back. I am pretty sure I tossed all the manuals, data
disks, blank discs. I initially thought about saving the system disks but I
know I was debating it in my kind. I am currently preparing to move packing up
my house so I might yet come across the system disks if I did keep them.
Unfortunately, the system has not been turned on since the mid 1980s. So I am
not sure if it boots currently and the system is not in a position for me to
power it up currently. If there were interests, I probably could make the
effort to re-arrange the stuff in the garage to try to power it on.
I and the system are located in Arizona in the Phoenix area. I am looking to
get it into the hands of someone who would desire it rather than junk/recycle
it.
I've decided to sell my PacMan Cocktail Arcade machine, It never gets
used and takes up space
Has the Ms Pacman board in it
Its in good condition. Monitor has been recapped
Has Keys. and new light bulbs in and out
$600 dollars or best offer, Can Deliver to ECCC/VCFMW if paid for in
advance, Or Local Pickup in Flushing Michigan
Hi Everyone,
I'm looking for a complete development system for the TMS340{10,20}
graphics processors from Texas Instruments.
I believe the development system had:
1) an ISA card with TMS340x0, frame buffer, DAC, etc.
2) DOS driver for said card
3) development tools: compiler, assembler, etc.
4) documentation on the card and chip
Thanks!
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The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>
I have a number of Vintage P1 and PII Laptops
Most are Dell P1 Latitudes with Trackballs, All are 30 dollars each shipped
Just tell me what type your looking for and ill see if I have it
2 Nice working IBM Thinkpads
A Thinkpad 240X- Really Small ultraportable thinkpad
Needs Battery, has 192MB RAM Installed and a 30GB HDD $50 shipped
A ThinkPad 390E
64MB RAM, 12GB HDD
Running OpenStep 4.2
$100 shipped and it includes a copy of the OpenStep Installation CDs
Got the following Commodore 64 Stuff for sale
Mint Boxed Commodore 1351 Mouse with all original disk/documentation
$50 dollars shipped
Commodore 64C System
1541 Drive, 1571 Drive, 1902 Monitor
Fastload Cartridge, printer interfaces, graphics tablet, couple of
modems, box full of software
$100 dollars
BusCard IEEE 488 Interface Card for C64- allows you to hook PET Drives
to your C64
$40 shipped
IEEE Flash for C64 IEEE 488 Interface $40 shipped
Copy II 64 Disk w/ Manual $10 shipped
Isepic Clone Cartridge with Disks $30 shipped
All Prices are negotiable, would like this stuff gone before VCFMW
Howdy all,?
I have a HP 700/44 terminal that I'm trying to nurse back to operation. I've managed to get the voltages on the board back into something resembling sane values (within 10% at worst) and I do now have a raster and it beeps on power-up but I have nothing on screen. I'm working without a schematic for now and it's kinda rough going.
Anyone have a digital copy of the service manual for these 700 series terminals??
Thanks
Phil
"In a hotel room in Texas, Clive Sinclair had a big problem. He wanted
to sell a cheap scientific calculator that would grab the market from
expensive calculators such as the popular HP-35. Hewlett-Packard had
taken two years, 20 engineers, and a million dollars to design the
HP-35, which used 5 complex chips and sold for $395. Sinclair's
partnership with calculator manufacturer Bowmar had gone nowhere. Now
Texas Instruments offered him an inexpensive calculator chip that
could barely do four-function math. Could he use this chip to build a
$100 scientific calculator?"
http://files.righto.com/calculator/sinclair_scientific_simulator.html?utm_s…
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Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884
>
> Speaking of Standalone BACKUP, anyone have a copy of this? I don't
> believe later VMS properly copies VMS 1.5 off.
>
I don't know if it works as far back as V1.5 but in later versions of VAX/VMS,
the procedure was to build standalone backup on a tape or spare disk by
executing @SYS$UPDATE:STABACKIT.COM on the running system.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
>Hello.
>Maybe stupid question but I'm a newby of VMS.
>I have a VS2000 with a Micropolis RD53 inside.
>I recently repaired the hard disk, and from some tests it seems to have
>no errors, so its content is safe.
>I tried to boot the machine from it, and it turns to contain a
>standalone backup.
>I would try to list the content of the disk, but from manuals I
>understand I would need to know the file names.
>How to identify the content of this disk?
>Thanks
>Andrea
The standalone backup environment is very limited. There is only one command -
BACKUP which allows backups or restores to be preformed.
If you have a tape device or another disk, you could try making a backup to it.
If you include the /LOG qualifier, you should get a list of the files on the
disk as they are backed up. Something like:
BACKUP /IMAGE /LOG DUA0: MUA0:BACKUP.SAV /SAVE
If you don't have a device to back up to, you could try backing up to the
null device which, if it works, won't make much of a backup, but it should
still list the files as they are processed:
BACKUP /IMAGE /LOG DUA0: NLA0:BACKUP.SAV /SAVE
Other than that, the other suggestions of putting the disk into a bootable
system or booting the VS2000 from the network are probably the way to go.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
Clearing out in preparation for a move, Cleaning out my storage unit as
well
Commodore C64C System with Power supply, 1571 drive and 1541 Drive.
Works Good
Comes with a bunch of joysticks, box of software and printer
interfaces. Shreddz 64 Guitar Hero Interface with Guitar,
$60 dollars
Dell OptiPlex GX110 System with OpenStep 4.2 Installed 256MB RAM, 8GB
HDD, 3C905TX Ethernet Card- Just add a SB16 and you got a fully
operational and supported OpenStep/NeXTStep Box. $75 dollars
Apple II Plus System
1 Disk II Drive
Monitor ///
Monitor /// Stand
Kensington System Saver
Works Great $100
Sun Sparcstation 5 system
96MB RAM 2GB HDD
Needs OS Reinstalled
$20 dollars
Lots of Apple Extended Keyboard II's $5 dollars each
Lots of AppleDesign Keyboards $5 dollars each
Apple Color Monitor 100s' Digital RGB Monitor for Apple II's $40
dollars each, most need recapped but are otherwise in good shape
Apple Monitor //'s Yellowed but working $10 dollars each
Apple 5.25inch Disk Drives $10 dollars each tested & Working
Apple 3.5 inch Drives $10 dollars each tested & working
SCSI Cables $2 bucks each, just tell me what ya need
Vintage Rotary Telephones- Stromberg Carlson, Western Electric, ITT-
All Desktop Sets $15 bucks each Mainly in white and beige with a olive
green here and there
Commodore C112 Calculator in original carrying case, Nice shape $30 dollars
Big box of syquest 88MB, Jaz Cartridges, Syquest 270 and Zip 100 Media
$40 bucks for the box- Will ship media mail cheap- Will almost fill a
home depot medium box.
Beige PowerMac G3 with 256MB RAM, 120GB HDD, DVD. Works nice $20
dollars. Good Legacy Box to work with SCSI and IDE stuff
Echo II Speech Synthesizer Card & Speaker for Apple II $25 dollars,
lets your Apple II Speak
Misc Apple Networking- Lots of phonenet interfaces $10 dollars for a
box full
TI Silent 700 Travelmate 1200 Terminal- Works fine With AC Adapter $50
dollars
Lots more to come. PayPal accepted- eBay feedback under cheermom248,
Local Pick up is welcomed
When I received my model 33 it came with a UCC82 Call Control Unit as an
extra in the deal.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/teletype
/CGS_0127.jpg (Photo of the CCU)
It doesn't seem to do much on its own (makes the teletype print null
characters uncontrollably when you plug the system in) and I can't find any
information on what it did however just looking at it and a small note from
google says it was used for putting a phone line on and off the hook and
dialing. The row of buttons at the bottom controlled a Bell 101 or 103
DataPhone which you hid away in the stand.
I've been searching up info on the 101 and I can't find a whole lot of
anything short of it was one of the first modems, it was 110 baud and it had
a D-sub 25 port that you connected it a computer/terminal with. They also
seem to be about impossible to find. I have modems that cat run at 110 baud
however god knows if the D-sub serial port on the back of them are the same
and even if they were I have no idea how it would of connected to the
teletype. Does anybody have more information?
Hello.
Maybe stupid question but I'm a newby of VMS.
I have a VS2000 with a Micropolis RD53 inside.
I recently repaired the hard disk, and from some tests it seems to have
no errors, so its content is safe.
I tried to boot the machine from it, and it turns to contain a
standalone backup.
I would try to list the content of the disk, but from manuals I
understand I would need to know the file names.
How to identify the content of this disk?
Thanks
Andrea
I am looking for a working TK-50 drive. Mine is giving me a "not ready" on
the system. Is there any documentation out there on these tape drives? Is
there a way to emulate these?
Hutch
Has anyone come across one of these before and more importantly (to me!) has anyone any data sheets or a manual on the tape drive.
The drive has a Toshiba label on it saying "Cartridge Tape Drive MTH 0551 F001 Model No. CD-1000C" and has a direct drive capstan.
It looks like a 1/2" Cartridge Drive and it was used on the Data General Desktop Generation E6270 drive. I can find no mention of it on the internet so far!
Thanks, Mark
It's running on a small server out in my garage, connected to the internet thru a wireless link.
Usually it is on 24/7 but sometimes the cable internet will go down for maintenance, esp in the middle of the night PDT.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Sander Reiche <sander.reiche at gmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 24, 2013 10:22 AM
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>Subject: Re: ak6dn.dyndns.org
>
>Yeah, started working again about an hour or so after I posted the message.
>I was probably accessing the site during maintenance or something :)
>Sorry for the panic attack!
>
>re,
>
>reiche
>
>
>On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/13 4:41 AM, Sander Reiche wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have a mirror of the above mentioned site? I only get 403s on it at
>>> the moment.
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.ak6dn.dyndns.org/**PDP-11/<http://www.ak6dn.dyndns.org/PDP-11/>
>>
>> is working
>>
>>
>>
>>
Like the Sanyo just yesterday, I have a Compaq SLT/286 portable computer
taking up space. Very nice condition, with power unit, dock, and bag. Any
interest CHEAP? I am located in New York, zip 10512.
Unlike the Sanyo, if there is no interest, I suppose I will just chop this
up.
I am desperately trying to clear out a bedroom to work on it - the bedroom
that ends up being the junk overflow containment chamber. It would
actually be nice to sleep in it sometime.
William Donzelli
aw288 at osfn.org
Jerome and Jon opined:
>> I normally use OLD (very rare and have been unable to find
>> them any longer) wooden Q-tips.
>
>
>In the US, try McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com/#cotton-swabs/=o9xphz
And Scott drivels:
Or somewhere that does medical/dental supply. They're used in dental hygiene and surgery (the cardboard-shafted swabs go weak when they get wet).
>Does anyone know if Apple really manufactured the Widget HDD (circa 1983)
>used on the Lisa or did they purchase the HDA from a supplier and add to it
>their electronics?
>
>Tom
Your first link is broken. ;)
I thought the same thing until two things happened:
1: I got ahold of two Widgets and found that no, they are NOT similar to any
other HDA assembly out there unlike that found in the Profile which uses the
ST506 and ST412 assemblies from Seagate.
2: Digging through Apple's patents there's paperwork outlining the design of
the drive which was voice coil and not stepper motor MFM like everyone else.
It /might/ of been assembled in-house (there's no markings saying another
factory did it so they might of actually run a clean room for HDA assembly)
but it was obvious they designed the drive.
-John
Hello there to the list,
can any of the DEC-enthusiasts help me out in identifying what seems to be a front panel / door from DEC?
It was part of a lot with RK07 drives, but this panel does not fit into any of the RK07 cabinets.
http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/DEC_doorpanel/
Thanks alot for your help,
Pierre
?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pierre's collection of classic computers : http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/
>
> >
> > I need to get a microphone for my podcast, and I've been advised that the Blue Yeti is what I need. So to come up with the $130 or so, I've got a lot of five Toshiba 610CT laptops for sale.
> > Or trade if you have that mic.
> >
> > The lot is five laptops, four work, one does not. They are Pentium 90s, with 40 MB of RAM. Couple of different drive sizes, 1.2 GB, 800 MB, etc.
> > Lot comes with one docking station, couple external floppy drives, an external CD-ROM, 7 or 8 power bricks, a couple of VGA adapters. Some spare parts like keyboards and keycaps and spare RAMs. Also included are PCMCIA modems and Ethernet combo cards.
> >
> > If anyone is interested I can give more detail.
>
> What's the type of display?
Toshiba says they are 9.5 inch "True Color" TFT screens.
Hi! There are some XT-IDE V2 PCBs available if anyone would like some.
They will cost the same as before ($12 each). However due to unforeseen
extreme price increases in shipping by USPS I am forced to change shipping
costs.
Shipping in the US will be $3 for a single PCB and $2 for each additional
PCB. Shipping internationally will be $10 for a single PCB and $3 for each
additional PCB. This is for the bare basics USPS first class postage with
no tracking or insurance. The builder assumes all risk of delivery as per
usual arrangement.
I apologize for the large price increase on shipping but this is out of my
hands. The USPS is in dire financial trouble and is raising prices on
shipping. It affects us all and is most unfortunate. These boards are
provided "at cost" so there is no margin to absorb any shipping price
increases. I have to pass them along.
If you would like one or more XT-IDE V2 PCBs please send a PayPal to
LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COMhttp://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showwiki.php?title=XTIDE+Rev2
There are about 10 XT-IDE V2 PCBs left.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
I need to get a microphone for my podcast, and I've been advised that the Blue Yeti is what I need. So to come up with the $130 or so, I've got a lot of five Toshiba 610CT laptops for sale.
Or trade if you have that mic.
The lot is five laptops, four work, one does not. They are Pentium 90s, with 40 MB of RAM. Couple of different drive sizes, 1.2 GB, 800 MB, etc.
Lot comes with one docking station, couple external floppy drives, an external CD-ROM, 7 or 8 power bricks, a couple of VGA adapters. Some spare parts like keyboards and keycaps and spare RAMs. Also included are PCMCIA modems and Ethernet combo cards.
If anyone is interested I can give more detail.
Thanks,
Brad Arnold
President & Cofounder, Atlanta Historical Computing Society
http://www.ATLHCS.orghttp://www.AtariPodcast.com
I know of only one example of a debugger which supports
a Program Counter History Log.
I am in the process of adding a Program Counter History Log
to the System Debugger in RT-11 on a PDP-11. I would
appreciate a few suggestions from anyone who has any
experience with a debugger program which supports
Program Counter History Logging.
For users who are not familiar with PDP-11 hardware,
the primary interface is a serial terminal, usually with
9600 baud these days (don't laugh - I first started on
a PDP-11 around 1975 over a 300 baud modem), with
a screen of 24 lines by 80 columns. There are a probably
a VERY, VERY few systems which use VT420 terminals
which can support 48 lines, but which are probably rarely,
if ever used with other than 24 lines by 80 columns. From
my point of view, the primary considerations are the lack
of both speed (9600 baud takes seconds to fill a full screen)
and available screen space to display more than about 200
addresses from the History Log Buffer (at 10 addresses
per line). While I normally use the Ersatz-11 Emulator for
the PDP-11 which provides me the possibility of using
screens of 50 lines, I suspect that I am presently the ONLY
person to interact with RT-11 using a screen of this many
lines, let alone the speed of the screen which is so fast that
the time between SCROLL and NOSCROLL is usually
a dozen lines of output to the screen. At 9600 baud, the
SCROLL vs NOSCROLL time delay is only a few
dozen characters at most, certainly less than one line
of output to the screen in almost all cases.
The only experience I have with a debugger which has a
History Log is with a 64 word buffer of addresses for
the 64 immediately previous instructions. While this is
often sufficient to at least pinpoint the general location of
where the program stopped, it was often insufficient to
locate where the problem started.
For those who have direct PDP-11 experience, the
following information might also be useful. At present,
there are two buffers which can be displayed:
(a) A buffer with 40 of the last interrupt entries to SD:
which are composed of 5 words each:
- Program Counter Address from the Stack
- Program Status Word from the Stack
- Word (instruction?) at that Address
- Word (instruction?) at the Previous Address
- Control Word which is used by SD: (PROSNG)
(b) A buffer with the last 1000 Addresses of the last
1000 instructions that have been executed
The current logic in the code to save each instruction
address in the 1000 word buffer ONCE and ONLY
once uses all five of the above values.
There seems no point in displaying all 1000 addresses
since only about 200 can stay on the screen and it takes
too long in any case. However, just how useful are the
past 1000 addresses as an aid in debugging? Since it
takes no additional time for a larger circular buffer over
a smaller circular buffer (in fact maybe a larger buffer
is insignificantly faster) and there is memory available,
I opted for the largest buffer that was reasonable
The other buffer with the 5 word entries entries for
the last 40 interrupts will be used when there are any
questions about the exact details of any interrupt with
respect to a user having set a Breakpoint or any other
logic errors in the debugger in general and specifically
when adding addresses to the 1000 word history log.
NOW finally, here are my questions.
Are there any suggestions as to how many previous
instructions are needed to usually be helpful to have a
log for when a program has a problem? Also, would
it be useful to have the first word (two bytes) of the
instruction as well as the address in order to identify
the actual instruction or is the address almost always
sufficient? On the PDP-11 with instructions being
1, 2 or 3 words, it is totally unlikely that having the
addresses of the previous instructions would ever
allow a user to confuse which code was previously
executed unless two variants of almost identical code
had been purposely constructed so as to confuse the
user. This could occur when two overlays use the
same addresses to execute that code, but it is almost
impossible to happen by chance and even it it did,
an extra NOP could simply shift the code for one
of the variants so as to avoid the confusion.
Jerome Fine
At 12:00 -0500 8/27/13, Jerome Fine wrote:
>Are there any suggestions as to how many previous
>instructions are needed to usually be helpful to have a
>log for when a program has a problem?
Jerome,
hopefully you'll get much better-qualified answers than mine;
I have little to no experience programming assembly or PDP-11. That
said, I can think of a few possible answers:
1) enough instructions that any timing-critical loop will be captured
when an external interrupt dropping into the debugger is generated.
This might be relatively short - 200 instructions or so? User
(not necessarily programmer?) would set up and start a long
calculation (mandelbrot set, whatever) and then hit "break", and be
able to look back far enough to verify that the correct sequence of
instructions is repeating over and over.
For actual number, maybe look at the longest loop in RT-11
that repeats many times successively?
2) enough instructions that any timing-critical *subroutine" will be
captured when dropping into the debugger.
This would be a *lot* more, depending on application. In this
case, the programmer would add a break point to the code right after
the timing-critical routine (disk access, real-time control interrupt
service routine, whatever) and then look back at the buffer to verify
that the whole routine took the correct execution path. For disk
access, that might be a *lot* of loops, though, so maybe you are only
capable of writing a buffer to hold the last few iterations?
For actual number, look at the longest single executable code
unit in RT-11?
3) Configurable depth, configured at launch time for debugger
Programmer gets to make the trade between debugger buffer
depth and available memory for his program.
Not sure any of this is helpful, and you probably have
thought of it anyway.
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- Mark 210-379-4635
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Large Asteroids headed toward planets
inhabited by beings that don't have
technology adequate to stop them:
Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.
The first video game console prototype created by Ralph Baer will be at
the Personal Computer Museum in Brantford on Saturday September 21 from
10:00am to 4:00pm.
For more information go to http://www.pcmuseum.ca/brownbox.asp
Cheers,
Bryan
After a couple of evenings spent tracking down a core memory problem, I
now have myPDP-8/L running (haven't yettested everything but it's been
looking good so far.)
There are four bulbs out on the front panel which I have some spares
for, but while going through the replacement I noticed that only one
("CA") of the six "Major States"bulbs is actually installed (therearen't
even sockets present for the other 5, doesn't look like they were ever
present). Is this typicalfor the 8/L?
I may install sockets for the other 5, because I'm pretty sure that more
lights = better computer...
- Josh
As some of you know, I have two smaller children, ages six and seven. I
decided it was family movie night and busted out a copy of "Flight of the
Navigator." ... this is a Disney-produced sci-fi flick from 1986 and
includes some interesting CGI (from 1984-1985 if you think about it.)
So with the kids entrenched by the plot, I broke out the google and began
to search and try to find out "how did they do the cgi for Flight of the
Navigator?"
I found the following, which answered my question.
http://dave.zfx.com/omnibus.html && http://dave.zfx.com/nav.html
The F1 sounds like a very interesting setup.
--
-Jon
Jonathan Katz, Indianapolis, IN.
At 12:00 -0500 8/24/13, <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>One crude wood abacus
>8 column 5/2. BUT, the center bar is BADLY placed. It needs to be moved,
>or remove one bead per column or you can't use it.
>Has "Intel Inside" stickers
Nomination for "post of the year". Good thing I didn't already have
my morning coffee, it'd have been in the keyboard for sure.
--
- Mark 210-379-4635
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Large Asteroids headed toward planets
inhabited by beings that don't have
technology adequate to stop them:
Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.
I have been trying to boot my MicroVAX II over the network off a SIMH boot
node. This is what I get on the boot node:
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:16:56.14 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on VX3900
DECnet event 0.3, automatic line service
>From node 5.9 (VX3900), 26-AUG-2013 13:16:56.14
Circuit QNA-0, Load, Requested, Node = 5.24 (MICRO4)
File = DISK$VAXVMSRL054:<SYS18.>, Operating system
Ethernet address = 08-00-2B-04-AE-54
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:17:01.15 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on VX3900
DECnet event 0.3, automatic line service
>From node 5.9 (VX3900), 26-AUG-2013 13:16:56.96
Circuit QNA-0, Load, Successful, Node = 5.24 (MICRO4)
File = DISK$VAXVMSRL054:<SYS18.>, Operating system
Ethernet address = 08-00-2B-04-AE-54
%CNXMAN, Received VAXcluster membership request from system MICRO4
%CNXMAN, Proposing addition of system MICRO4
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:21:19.15 %%%%%%%%%%%
13:21:19.15 Node VX3900 (csid 00010001) received VAXcluster membership
request f
rom node MICRO4
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:21:19.15 %%%%%%%%%%%
13:21:19.15 Node VX3900 (csid 00010001) proposed addition of node MICRO4
%CNXMAN, Completing VAXcluster state transition
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:21:19.80 %%%%%%%%%%%
13:21:19.80 Node VX3900 (csid 00010001) completed VAXcluster state
transition
%CNXMAN, Lost connection to system MICRO4
%PEA0, Port has Closed Virtual Circuit - REMOTE NODE MICRO4
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:21:34.78 %%%%%%%%%%%
13:21:34.78 Node VX3900 (csid 00010001) lost connection to node MICRO4
%CNXMAN, Timed-out lost connection to system MICRO4
%CNXMAN, Proposing reconfiguration of the VAXcluster
%CNXMAN, Removed from VAXcluster system MICRO4
%CNXMAN, Completing VAXcluster state transition
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:21:54.30 %%%%%%%%%%%
13:21:54.28 Node VX3900 (csid 00010001) timed-out lost connection to node
MICRO4
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:21:54.30 %%%%%%%%%%%
13:21:54.28 Node VX3900 (csid 00010001) proposed reconfiguration of the
VAXclust
er
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:21:54.30 %%%%%%%%%%%
13:21:54.28 Node MICRO4 (csid 00010004) has been removed from the VAXcluster
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 26-AUG-2013 13:21:54.31 %%%%%%%%%%%
13:21:54.28 Node VX3900 (csid 00010001) completed VAXcluster state
transition
I am using a DEQNA and booting off SIMH running VMS 5.4. This has worked
fine for me multiple times before without issue. I have just tested both a
VAX 4000-200 and a MicroVAX 2000 (over thinwire, very slow to boot) and they
both boot fine, so I don't think there is a problem with the boot node or
the network.
I have tried replacing the cabinet kit (this is the same machine where I
have been having the cabinet kit problems), the AUI converter, the patch
cable, the DEQNA with another DEQNA and also with a DELQA. The result is
always the same.
I am not sure what the problem might be. I suppose it could still be
something at the network level. It might perhaps be the CPU board, but if it
gets that far into the boot sequence (already prompted for date and time)
this seems unlikely.
Any suggestions?
Regards
Rob
Howdy, all!
Someone here sometime offered some C64 boards without the SID. Are they
still avaiable?
Got 4 C64s in need of repair :)
Thanks!
Alexandre
---
Enviado do meu Motorola PT550
Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
It by default will return 403 to certain geographic ranges of IP addresses (China, Russia, Some Europe, South America, etc). I had way too many intrusion attempts from those areas, so they are by default blocked.
If however you try and access an actual existing web page on the site (rather than nonexistent PHP CGI stuff) it will put your IP into the allowlist, and the next time apache restarts (typically within an hour or so of the access) you can try again and the page will load.
-----Original Message-----
>From: SPC <spedraja at ono.com>
>Sent: Aug 24, 2013 11:40 AM
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>Subject: Re: ak6dn.dyndns.org
>
>It continues returning '403 Forbidden' currently.
>
>Regards
>SPc.
>
>
>2013/8/24 Sander Reiche <sander.reiche at gmail.com>
>
>> Yeah, started working again about an hour or so after I posted the message.
>> I was probably accessing the site during maintenance or something :)
>> Sorry for the panic attack!
>>
>> re,
>>
>> reiche
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On 8/24/13 4:41 AM, Sander Reiche wrote:
>> >
>> >> Anyone have a mirror of the above mentioned site? I only get 403s on it
>> at
>> >> the moment.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > http://www.ak6dn.dyndns.org/**PDP-11/<
>> http://www.ak6dn.dyndns.org/PDP-11/>
>> >
>> > is working
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
Reply to the sender.
Reply-to: adam at faur.org
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:18:10 -0500
From: Adam Faur <adam at faur.org>
To: info at vintagetech.com
Subject: Tandy 6000 HD
I have a Tandy 6000 HD without keyboard do you know anyone who would be
interested.
I know that these were typically used for businesses and sported the XENIX
operating system but am not sure if it would be beneficial to sell or tear
down.
Thanks,
Adam Faur
I have a DEQNA cabinet kit that does not work. I know this because if I
replace it with another one the activity light on the switch works and I am
able to see MOP requests coming from the machine to my boot node, with the
faulty one none of this happens.
Now, I have tested the fuse and I have tested the connectivity of every wire
>from the internal connector that connects to the DEQNA board (also tried
with a DELQA by the way) to the AUI connector on the outside of the cabinet
kit. Everything seems to be OK. But it doesn't work. I have tried "jiggling"
the wires a bit while testing the continuity of the wires, but it still
seems OK.
What other failures could there be?
Regards
Rob
Checking if the links are still alive and what to mirror.
But where did pdp-11.co.uk go all of a sudden? Hadn't had time yet to
mirror it :|
re,
reiche
Any capacity beyond 512K. Will be used in an old Amiga 600, I have no
spare coins for a full-fledged memory board/accelerator.
---
Enviado do meu Motorola PT550
Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
Maybe not so classic?
400MHZ, 64MB, DVD, no hard drive
Powers on, but nothing appears on the SVGA screen.
Anybody want it?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax
AOL IM elcpls
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Apple //e System
Mouse Card
64k/80 Col Card
Super Serial Card
Duo Disk Drive
Kensington System Saver II
and a Color Monitor //e
Nice complete //e, great for starting out, First 150 bucks takes it.
Its clean and works great
I have the IBM RT going up today @ 10pm PST
Item 251324244168
I also found the cdrom with all the AIX 2.2 images along with IBM's AOS4.3
and BSD4.4 for RT. If someone wants to host images (assuming it's
permissible) let me know where to upload it.
tom P
Evening all,
I?ve been thinking (I don?t actually have a secureboot-capable device nor have I read the spec) about one would theoretically circumvent it.
I was initially thinking of it in terms of how TSX as booted on the PDP-11 (starting at RT-11, loading TSX as ash application and having it replace RT-11). That approach has some flaws, however:
1). In the case of WinRT, user mode apps wouldn?t have the privileges to replace WinRT?s memory.
2). Kernel modules providing a shim would need to be signed else they wouldn?t load.
3). You couldn?t modify a driver without the checksum matching. Which brings me to this: Does SecureBoot actually check if the checksum matches, or just the public and private key?
Alternatively, how securely is the key stored? Would it be possible to retrieve the key from memory? If that?s doable, it would be easier to implement this.
Are there any steps in the modern NT boot procedure I?m forgetting that would let you inject a ?boot loader? to ?jump? to either windows or Another OS that would circumvent SecureBoot?
Thoughts/comments greatly appreciated!.
(repost from comp.sys.hp.mpe)
Hi All
As I can't get any response from HP, I've decided to give this group a
try... With a group of a system programmers, we're working on free, open
source 3k emulator, based on QEMU (and it's binary translator), with the
goal to get a fully functioning rp7400/N4K environment. As for now, we have
it working with HP-UX 11i, but our main goal is to get MPE/iX up and
running on it... So, my question is - is someone on this group able to
provide us with a MPE/iX installation media images? I know it's a gray
land, but as I can't get any response from HP (even after they announced
their HP3k simulator programme), I'm willing to risk and try to run our
simulator with 'unauthorized' copy of the OS, just to check if it's
working...
Thank you for your help,
Piotr
Hi
John and I have just completed a new S-100 board and are now taking
reservations for the first batch of manufactured PCBs.
It is the S-100 Parallel IO board which provides four input parallel ports,
four output parallel ports, and a PC compatible Centronics port.
It has debugging LEDs and other features to help get your S-100 system
working in top shape.
The board is designed to be reliable and easy to assemble.? The schematic
and PCB layout files are on the N8VEM wiki here
http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder¶m=S-100%20Paralle
lIO
There is an article on S100computers.com here which describes the prototype
board.
http://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/Parallel%20Ports%20IO%20Boa
rd/Parallel%20Ports%20IO%20Board.htm
The PCBs will be $20 each as per the usual arrangement.? Shipping in the US
is $3 for a single PCB and $2 for each additional PCB.? Shipping
internationally is $10 for a single PCB and $3 for each additional PCB.?
This is for the bare basics USPS first class postage with no tracking or
insurance.? The builder assumes all risk of delivery as per usual
arrangement.
Please send a PayPal to LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM with ?S-100 Parallel IO board? to
reserve your board.? I will place the PCB manufacturing order as soon as I
get to 20 units and will get a few extras for those who come later.
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Sorry for the spam to the list, but for the folks that were going to come
by this weekend to buy/pick up stuff I have to reschedule...there was a
sudden death in the family and I have other things to attend to.
TTFN - Guy
Sorry for the spam to the list, but for the folks that were going to come
by this weekend to buy/pick up stuff I have to reschedule...there was a
sudden death in the family and I have other things to attend to.
TTFN - Guy
Bill Gates introduces OS/2 in 1987. But look at the screenshots at
2:50 when they talk about Sun's new RISC processors. :?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2ImYGUhBgI
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Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven
MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven
Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884
I'm looking for a S3, Diamond Multimedia or SonicBlue FireGL2, FireGL3
or FireGL4 AGP video card. A bounty is available.
NOTE: It CANNOT be ATI (including those OEMed from ATI labeled IBM, HP
or Dell).
Regards,
Lyle
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http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:03:24 +0100 (BST), ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
>>>
>>> As you have discovered these enocders do come apart. The light source is
>>> an IR LED (so if you've put 5V striaght acorss it it's probably dead by
>>> now!).
>>
>> I did not -- I measured 5V across it when the keyboard was plugged in,
>> that's all.
>
> If that's 5V across the pins that conenct to the light source with the
> later removed then fine, the voltmeter will not draw enocuh current ot
> produce a significant drop across the series resistor.. If it's 5V with
> the light source connected then I think said LED might well be
> open-circuit.
All the rotary encoders on HP instruments from the late '70s thru the late '80s used +5V, grain-of-wheat bulbs. I have yet to see a led used in any of the 15 - 20 encoders that I've repaired to date.
->CRC
For the cost of shipping from southern California 92656.
1. H8 - Digital Computer (Operation)
2. H8 - Digital Computer (Assembly)
3. H8-1 - 4K Static Memory
4. H8-2 - Parallel IO Interface
5. H8-4 - Multiport Serial I/O (Operation)
6. H8-4 - Multiport Serial I/O (Assembly)
7. H8-5 - Serial I/O and Cassette Interface
8. H9 - Video Terminal (Operation)
9. H9 - Video Terminal (Assembly)
10. H17 - Floppy Disk (Assembly)
11. H-29 - Video Display Terminal (Operation)
12. H-29 - Video Display Terminal (Assembly)
13. HA8-8 - Extended Configuration Board
14. WH8-16 - 16K Static Memory
15. WH-8-64 - Dynamic RAM Card
16. WH-8-37 - DD Disk Controller and Z-67 Interface
17. WH17 - Floppy Disk
Not responsible for typos,? see the big picture here (330KB):
http://bitpig.com/temp/heathkit-manuals.jpg
All the other stuff given away has been claimed, often within minutes.
Sorry if I don't reply to everyone, but if you don't hear from me, that
means that someone else has claimed it.
Evening all,
I recently parted out an old electric organ which had a too-far-gone electrical system for me to repair it. I now have some spare micro controllers and misc. ICs I have no idea what to do with.
Anyone need an Intel 8035 or have any ideas what I could do with one? I?d know what I?d do if ti were z80 compatible, but it unfortunately is no.