test-drb July 2019

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by athornton＠gmail.com

I have an Apple /// that I've had for many years; it's never worked. When you power it up, you get a checkerboard screen, where half the squares are solid white, and the other half have a little mosaic pattern in them. Looks like this: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0NHNkEG9ssPsi65ojivBteKaQ Does this failure mode ring any bells? Obviously the video signal is being generated well enough to sync a composite output. Any idea whether I should start by replacing the CPU or the ROMs? Adam

5 years, 5 months

cctalk Digest, Vol 58, Issue 6

by nw.johnson＠ieee.org

Anybody have any docs on the DEC LSI 11/93 (KDJ11-E)? I have a suspect one and am looking for schematics, configuration data etc. I am trying to run it in a BA23 backplane and seemingly geting bus hangs as is there is something that it is looking for that is not there! cheers, Nigel On 06/07/2019 13:00, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to > cctalk at classiccmp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cctalk-request at classiccmp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: gunkies.org is down or?... (Noel Chiappa) > 2. Re: gunkies.org is down or?... (ben) > 3. Email delivery protocols / methods. (Grant Taylor) > 4. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Dennis Boone) > 5. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Diane Bruce) > 6. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Diane Bruce) > 7. Question about Apple /// (Adam Thornton) > 8. Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West (Evan Koblentz) > 9. Re: Question about Apple /// (Jecel Assumpcao Jr.) > 10. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Dennis Boone) > 11. RE: Email delivery protocols / methods. > (newsgroups at micromuseum.co.uk) > 12. RE: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Dave Wade) > 13. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Bill Gunshannon) > 14. Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West (John Herron) > 15. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Peter Coghlan) > 16. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Peter Corlett) > 17. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Jason T) > 18. Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West (ED SHARPE) > 19. Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West (ED SHARPE) > 20. Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West (Evan Koblentz) > 21. Re: Question about Apple /// (Jim Manley) > 22. Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West (Evan Koblentz) > 23. Re: Question about Apple /// (ED SHARPE) > 24. Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West (Evan Koblentz) > 25. Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West (Guy Dunphy) > 26. Re: Question about Apple /// (Bill Degnan) > 27. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (Noel Chiappa) > 28. Re: Wtd: advice upcoming visit to Bletchley Park / comp > museum (Mattis Lind) > 29. Re: Question about Apple /// (ED SHARPE) > 30. Re: Wtd: advice upcoming visit to Bletchley Park / comp > museum (Peter Corlett) > 31. Wtd: advice upcoming visit to Bletchley Park / comp museum > (Bill Degnan) > 32. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (David Bridgham) > 33. Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. (David Bridgham) > 34. QSIC, was: Re: Email delivery protocols / methods. > (emanuel stiebler) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:33:38 -0400 (EDT) > From: jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Cc: jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu > Subject: Re: gunkies.org is down or?... > Message-ID: <20190705173338.C9ACB18C0B6 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu> > > > From: Tomasz Rola > > > Is it really down? > > I suppose this is actually good news, in a way - someone must have been > trying to use it, to notice that it was down! :-) > > So let me take this opportunity to appeal once again for people to contribute > content; I've added a lot of PDP-11 stuff, and Lars and I sporadically add > PDP-10 stuff (not that very many actually have a hardware -10 :-), but > _everything else_ could use more content. So if you have a particular focus - > please consider contributing your knowledge in that area! > > Noel > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:46:30 -0600 > From: ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: gunkies.org is down or?... > Message-ID: <fef4a9ac-4bee-acee-5bdd-e7fbfbdc5647 at jetnet.ab.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/5/2019 11:33 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: >> > From: Tomasz Rola >> >> > Is it really down? >> >> I suppose this is actually good news, in a way - someone must have been >> trying to use it, to notice that it was down! :-) >> >> So let me take this opportunity to appeal once again for people to contribute >> content; I've added a lot of PDP-11 stuff, and Lars and I sporadically add >> PDP-10 stuff (not that very many actually have a hardware -10 :-), but >> _everything else_ could use more content. So if you have a particular focus - >> please consider contributing your knowledge in that area! >> >> Noel > It looks up from here. Wow all those banks of EVIL computers behind that > man in the photo. Ben. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 15:05:32 -0600 > From: Grant Taylor <cctalk at gtaylor.tnetconsulting.net> > To: cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Email delivery protocols / methods. > Message-ID: > <ff892b2d-b7f1-01e8-a59c-f60f890f4f77 at spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Here's pot stirrer for a holiday Friday afternoon: > > How many different protocols / methods can we collectively come up with > for how email can be transferred? > > I'm primarily thinking about between servers (MTA-to-MTA). But I'm also > willing to accept servers and clients (MTA-to-MUA). Where you can / > could run at least one server yourself. > > ? SMTP(S) > ? UUCP (rmail) > ? MMDF > ? X.400 > ? Microsoft Exchange proprietary protocol > ? Novell GroupWise proprietary protocol > ? Lotus (IBM) Domino proprietary protocol > ? FidoNet (FTN) > ? BITNET > ? Direct file access - group Post Office > ? Direct file access - mail spool > > > -- Nigel Johnson MSc., MIEEE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! You can reach me by voice on Skype: TILBURY2591 If time travel ever will be possible, it already is. Ask me again yesterday This e-mail is not and cannot, by its nature, be confidential. En route from me to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable by any number of system administrators along the way. Nigel Johnson <nw.johnson at ieee.org> Please consider the environment when deciding if you really need to print this message

5 years, 5 months

Email delivery protocols / methods.

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Grant Taylor > How many different protocols / methods can we collectively come up with > for how email can be transferred?' Hey, this is the classic computers list, so you should only list early stuff, (say pre-1990), and leave out all the modern crap (but I repeat myself). So here's one I'm not sure anyone else will catch: TFTP has an email mode! Why? Well, FTP is gargantuan (compared to TFTP) and needs a working TCP to boot, so if all you have is a working TFTP, and no email... Noel

5 years, 5 months

gunkies.org is down or?...

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Tomasz Rola > Is it really down? I suppose this is actually good news, in a way - someone must have been trying to use it, to notice that it was down! :-) So let me take this opportunity to appeal once again for people to contribute content; I've added a lot of PDP-11 stuff, and Lars and I sporadically add PDP-10 stuff (not that very many actually have a hardware -10 :-), but _everything else_ could use more content. So if you have a particular focus - please consider contributing your knowledge in that area! Noel

5 years, 5 months

gunkies.org is down or?...

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Diane Bruce > Works fine. Probably a left-over cached entry; neither my ISP's DNS, nor MIT's ("Host gunkies.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)") can resolve it at the moment. One year Tore was off hiking or something, and it took a few days, but past experience is that he will get to it. (But I'd like to not have to depend on him.) Noel

5 years, 5 months

gunkies.org is down or?...

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> Tomasz Rola > However, I have added this line to my /etc/hosts: L-rd, I must be getting old - it never dawned on me to do that. Anyway, that shows the server was fine, it was just the missing DNS entry. Back now. Noel

5 years, 5 months

gunkies.org is down or?...

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Tomasz Rola > Is it really down? Could it come back? Tore forgot to pay the bill for his DNS entry; this is the third year in a row the exact same thing has happened, on the exact same date! :-) :-( I've already sent him an email about it, this morning; hopefully he'll get with the program shortly. If I knew the IP address for gunkies (it used to be 92.242.140.2, not sure if it's still at that hosting service - the hosting and DNS entry are separate) I'd be really tempted to pay it myself - and switch the registration to myself in the process, so I can pay it in the future! Not sure how long a bill has to be unpaid before you can hijack an entry, though. Noel

5 years, 5 months

gunkies.org is down or?...

by rtomek＠ceti.pl

I have just noticed that. => (885 3): host gunkies.org Host gunkies.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Looks like it fell off the edge of the world. Gog still has pages in cache, time of caching for one particular page I am reading is May 30th, 09:38:55 GMT. Is it really down? Could it come back? -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola at bigfoot.com **

5 years, 5 months

Classic / NOP machines becoming available in Berlin (inc. DECs, Commodores, Apples, HPs, SGIs and more)

by shadoooo＠gmail.com

Hello Peter, you have a nice list of interesting things. I'm very interested in DEC machines, which I collect and repair for preservation purposes. Among others, I could be interested in those: DECmate assorted QBUS boards (do you have a list?) VAX 4000/90A VAX 4000/96 VAX 4000/100A VAX 4000/105 DEC RFxx disks, TK50 and TU58 tapes if available Commodore dual FFDs 4040 or 3040 Possibly Amiga 1000/1200/2000 for a friend of mine. I would have an idea about prices, however... If you prefer, please contact me privately. I see you here a long list of burnable ISOs. I already have several of those, but it would be very nice to merge with yours... could you share them somewhere over the net? Thanks Andrea

5 years, 5 months

Classic / NOP machines becoming available in Berlin (inc. DECs, Commodores, Apples, HPs, SGIs and more)

by prd＠decarchive.org

Dear all, Apologies for this semi-spam message from a long-time appreciator of classic computers and nostalgic obsolete products, but I hope this will be of interest to at least a few people here. So, yes, by way of context, I?ve been acquiring what I consider to be characterful and/or historically interesting computers for coming up to, maybe, 15 years now, with the intention of being able to curate multiple, interactive temporary exhibits on the history of computing, but since moving continents (amongst other things), my paths and passions have changed, so I am currently in the process of re-testing (and repairing) my machines, and will be trying to sell them off in the coming weeks and months. Under different circumstances, finding people (or groups) with similar interests and plans would have been an equal-first priority, but given my more recent ?life changes', sale price ? and the ability to better pursue my new focuses ? is now more of a factor. But before I list them on eBay (and/or by way of a heads up), I wanted to let people here know, just in case I have something that someone here particularly wants / needs / could use. The current list of systems I will be parting with is accessible at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QqUrO11gnn4fwAPDxqO_phKDt1M0O15G7wJ… but some (hopefully) highlights include (*big breath*): DEC: MicroPDP-11/53+; MicroVAX 2000; VAXstation 4000 VLC/60/90A/96; VAX 4000 100A, 105; DECstation 5000/240, 260 (MIPS-based); DEC 3000/300X; Personal Workstation 600au; AlphaServer 4100; AlphaServer DS20, DS25 systems; Letterwriter 100; VT 101, 220, 520 terminals HP: HP rx2800 Integrity2; 9000 715/100 and Visualize C110 PA-RISC systems SGI: Indy and O2 systems SUN: ELC, SPARCstation Voyager (the portable one), 5 and 20; Ultra 1; Ultra 5; Netra T1-105; Enterprise T5240 Apple: IIc, IIe Platinums, IIgs; Mac 512ke, Mac Pluses; SE/30 and Quadra 700s (also for running A/UX); iMac G3s and a G4 Commodore: PET 3000 systems, PET 8032-SK; various C64 / C64C and 128D systems; SX-64; Music Maker keyboards (the big one, inc. SFX modules); Amiga 1000 Apologies again, please feel free to contact me with any queries or reasonable offers, or even if you?d just like to be kept in the loop as more machines become available, and all the best. Thanks in advance, Peter

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