test-drb October 2018

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by bill.gunshannon＠hotmail.com

When we talked about this little bit ago I thought there were a couple other people who had them.? Any chance someone has a copy of the utilities disk they could rip and email to me? I just tried to read? mine and it appears to have a bad spot right on the oct.sav file which is the program for configuring the card. bill

5 years, 8 months

i860, was : Re: modern stuff

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Al Kossow > CHM has a rather large Intel Paragon system. > I just recently snagged the software and manuals for it on eBay > which we didn't have Excellent! Congratulations! So, I'm curious - what's the 'most important missing thing' at the CHM - either am important machine that you don't have at all, or part of something (like the above) that you really need to complete something? Noel

5 years, 8 months

Books available ACM CALGO Vols I, II, III, loosleaf+microfice

by cclist＠sydex.com

Anyone interested in three hardbound volumes of ACM CALGO, starting with Algorithm 1, plus a large looseleaf binder and assorted microfiche (assuming that I can still find them)? Drop me a line if so. --Chuck

5 years, 8 months

If you archive old data for the public...

by ethan＠757.org

If any of you are archiving old data for the public, like CD-ROMs or whatever, and you are low on disk space.... A friend gives me surplus data center hardware often, and I have some SATA disks. They have 4 years or so on them so backup / redundancy is important, but I can offer some to people that are running public archives of classic computer stuff to help. You just can't resell the hardware. -- : Ethan O'Toole

5 years, 8 months

Seeking User Manual for DEC M1710 Unibus Interface Foundation

by etherbrat＠hotmail.com

Seeking User Manual for DEC M1710 Unibus Interface Foundation: I have been looking everywhere, without success. The closest I have come is a 3-page description in a DEC Logic Handbook from bitsavers. Thanks in advance for any leads. Neil

5 years, 9 months

Microsoft-Paul Allen

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

I would like to make a correction: Paul Allen helped to create Micro-Soft not MicroSoft as I had written. When trying to preserve computing history it's really not permissable to make such an error.(It's the prof. in me!) Happy Computing! Murray :)

5 years, 9 months

Desktop Metaphor

by rlloken＠telus.net

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > How many graphical Unix desktops are sold or distributed in the world > today that are not Linux? Excluding Mac OS X as I specifically address > that point, I think. I am replying to this email on a FreeBSD 10.3 box and Motif. I don't know what FreeBSD runs out of the box because I immediately delete it and install Motif. FreeBSD may not have the installed base of Linux but it has a its fans. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV : "...underneath those tuques we wear, Athabasca, Alberta Canada : our heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

5 years, 9 months

70's computers

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Paul Koning > A lot more comes from the CPU architecture. The instruction set, of > course (arguably the first RISC). An observation about RISC: I've opined before that the CISC->RISC transition was driven, in part, by the changing balance of CPU speed versus memory speed: with slow memory and fast CPUs, it makes sense to get as much execution bang out of every fetch buck (so complex instructions); but when memory bandwidth goes up, one needs a fast CPU to use it all (so simple instructions). It occurs to be that the same balance probably applies to memory _size_. When memories are small, one wants dense code (which probably means CISC); only with larger memories does RISC, with its less-dense code, make sense. Noel

5 years, 9 months

"Object Oriented GUI"

by commodorejohn＠gmail.com

> Message: 28 > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:16:44 -0400 > From: "Jeffrey S. Worley" <technoid6502 at gmail.com> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: "Object Oriented GUI" > Message-ID: <01e83dac0a96469e425a0632bd07319351c9362d.camel at Gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I used OS/2 from 1993 to 2003 almost exclusively. It has the most > beautiful GUI on the planet, is object-oriented to a fault, and is the > target of all the claims Microsoft was making with regard to the > Object-orientedness of their new windows 95. > > Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_Shell mentions some > important attributes of a truely object-oriented gui. > > Someone mentioned inheritance and polymorphism. These are two products > of true object oriented gui design. Applications inherit the ability > to manipulate and use whatever objects exist in the system. A word > processor is not limited to just text files, for example, or to only > the files the programmer originally set out for it. The system allows > the applications to grow in functionality as new object types are > developed/assembled by other applications or the user. All these years later, I'm still trying to wrap my head around what the purpose of that in an OS/desktop environment/file-manager context is. I guess that, say, you could have new file types implement their own methods for things like printing, so the OS doesn't have to know the details of the document structure or require a particular application installed to be able to print it, but this seems like an awfully limited use case to me - sure, it would be nice to have things like audio and video codecs be universal and pluggable or things like that, but I have a hard time seeing how it's all that revolutionary, and I can easily see it being just as limiting as other non-OOP format standards (after all, it's not going to magically add functionality that the file format itself doesn't support, is it? And doesn't it ultimately just come down to diking out a chunk of the application code for the OS to use? What if two different programs both offer their own handlers for the same file type?)

5 years, 9 months

Bunches of old AIX software...

by sales＠elecplus.com

http://www.appx.com/appx-server-413-ibm-aix http://bio.gsi.de/DOCS/AIX/docs.html http://yips.idevcloud.com/wiki/index.php/PASE/OpenSourceBinariesArchive Maybe these will be useful to someone? Cindy Croxton --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

5 years, 9 months

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test-drb October 2018