Copyright 1991 IBM. All rights reserved.
AIX X-Windows 3270 Emulator User's Guide
Note to US Government Users - Documentation related to Restricted Rights -
Use, duplication, or disclosure is subject to restrictions set forth in GSA
ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp.
This book describes how to use the AIX X-Windows3270 Emulator, X3270.
All that being said, the entire contents of the binder is obviously a
photocopy! Sellable or not? Of interest or not?
Cindy Croxton
As others said, we're not lawyers so ymmv but I would take it as the same as selling a used cd, dvd, software or books. The usual law is we can't copy it. So scanning it, if that company or company's intellectual property is still in existence they might care. But selling originals is usually ok unless specific wording against it, although that's also probably the original owner in contract not yourself.?
Ironically I was *just* having a similar thought and self conversation with some training materials I just purchased from a used book store.
All the best,
- John
-------- Original message --------From: Electronics Plus via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Date: 3/12/17 5:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: AIX documentation
I have a number of binders that have pretty thorough AIX documentation, but
the trouble is, there are from security classes that were taught by private
companies. Am I legally allowed to resell these?
I have a number of binders that have pretty thorough AIX documentation, but
the trouble is, there are from security classes that were taught by private
companies. Am I legally allowed to resell these?
Cindy Croxton
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From: Mark Benson <md.benson at gmail.com>
Date: 13 March 2017 at 13:41
Subject: [rescue] Major Clearout (UK LN11) - REDUX
To: Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
Hi,
Filtering through this list to remove what's gone and revise the items
as required. This is the LAST CALL for these. They'll be going to
recycling if no-one claims them (aside from the Newer Computers)
All stuff is in UK LN11 Postcode area. Prefer collection, but will
ship small stuff at your *own risk and cost*. I will ship small items
outside Europe but the large stuff is UK/EU only due to likely power
supply restrictions and excess shipping costs.
Unless otherwise explicitly stated, all items are **untested**. I will
test computers on demand if needed. Cards and CPUs I can't really be
bothered to. No returns, folks, ya gets what ya gets.
There's a stack of pictures here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/nt94k1zf0tn49wt/AACpoHnTm75yDhlFHQ6wd5WBa
Identification of stuff is left to the reader.
If you have any questions just drop me a line.
Here goes:
ALL FREE TO A GOOD HOME (shipping extra):
=iMac G4 800 -15-inch - NOW FREE=
TESTED working okay (booted into OS X 10.4.11 and ran a few apps)
G4 800MHz CPU
15b LCD Panel
768MB RAM (256MB Internal, 512MB in upgrade slot)
Airport (doesnb t support WPA encrypted WiFi)
Cosmetically needs a clean and dedust, has a few scuffs on the outer
case plastics, otherwise in good condition. Flat Panel LCD sadly has
several bugs stuck between the LCD and the backlight resulting in
small black spots that look like 2-3 dead pixels
Has original, working external speakers (have special powered plug!) -
in similar need of light TLC
*In Original box* (because frankly it was the only way to store it safely!)
Probably have a matching White Keyboard and Mouse somewhere.
Happy to ship to UK Buyer as itb s easy enough in the box
=PowerMac G3/400 upgraded to G4/500/1M)=
NOW FREE but will cost extra for shipping
TESTED WORKING booted into Mac OS X 10.4.11 and tooled about. Soak
tested for 4 hours.
REVISION B UNIT - DOES NOT HAVE THE IDE CONTROLLER BUG
== NO VIDEO CARD ==
512MB RAM (tested working in the machine)
40GB Hard drive (?)
Case is in decent condition aside from an odd scuff, front lower
handle has a chunk missing out of it (happened some time ago and never
got replaced)
=PowerMac 9600=
UNTESTED but was working a year ago when I replaced a faulty logic
board and booted it into Mac OS 9.1
ZIF Socket CPU card with a G3/500/1M upgrade CPU installed
I think about 384MB of RAM
ATi Rage 128GL video card
Apple 10/100 Ethernet card
Case is a bit dirty and has a few scuffs but is in good general
condition. The side panel fan has slightly botched (but working)
contacts on it. Inside is clean and in good condition.
=Intel ISP1100 Rackmount 1U Server=
UNTESTED Not been run up in years was stored as working
Pentium III 800MHz (Coppermine)
No RAM but have some PC100 and PC133 EEC that works in it
1.44MB Floppy and facility to install 2 hard drives (IDE)
Includes some crazy-ass Broadcom PCI Crypto-Accelerator card thatb s
probably obsolete.
The shown hard drive is not included (itb s SATA, anyway)
Was bought as new in the box so has not seen a server room in itb s
life, I havenb t run it for any significant time. Chassis is clean
aside from a bit of dust, the front panel cover likes to fall off
because the rack ears got dingged. Comes with a full set of rack rails
(never opened) if I can find them
=Macintosh Performa 475=
UNTESTED worked last time I turned it on and they are pretty hard to kill :)
Probably has no RAM or VRAM (aside from soldered in stuff)
Genuine XC68040RC25M CPU (not original, has FPU)
No Hard Drive (tray and screws are in it I think)
Has LC PDS Ethernet card, I think
Clean condition, case is largely unscathed, only light yellowing. Has
an AppleCentre Norwich dealer label on the front
=Macintosh LC=
UNTESTED
Itb s complete and pretty original, including hard drive, RAM etc.
Has some kind of LC PDS card in that I canb t identify (itb s no LAN),
but I couldnb t be fashed to take the lid off as I didnb t have a
screwdriver handy. I donb t remember having anything too exciting for
LC PDS
Case is okay apart from some sticker-guff and dirt. Even has original
retaining screw!
=Apple SCSI CD-ROM=
UNTESTED
External 50-pin SCSI Apple CD-ROM
I think it has a Genuine Apple CD300 (Matshita 4x) drive in it which
means itb ll work with System 7.5 up with no silly drivers IIRC
50-pin Centronics with Passthrough
=Compaq 8-port PS/2 VGA KVM=
UNTESTED
The b less compatibleb black port version
No cables, sorry, but they use standard VGA/PS2 ports
CARDS
=NuBus Cards=
SuperMac DigitalFilm VidCap system - Includes cable and breakout box
2x of Asante Ethernet Card - RJ-45 and Thicknet ports
=PCI/AGP Cards=
8MB Video Board from PowerMac 9600 (I forget the model)
Apple Fast Ethernet 10/100 card - RJ-45
=CPUs & CPU Cards=
ZIF Module PowerPC G3/266 - originally from Beige PowerMac G3
ZIF Module PowerPC G4/400 - unknown but likely from Yikes! G4
ZIF Module PowerPC G4/500 - SonnetTech G4/500/1M upgrade
NewerTech MAXpower PowerPC G3 (233?) Slot Card (for pre-G3 PCI PowerMac)
SonnetTech PowerPC G3 300/512 Upgrade Slot Card (for pre-G3 PCI PowerMac)
PowerPC 604/166MHz - Pulled from a Power Computing PowerTower (Mac Clone)
Unknown PowerPC G3/250 Upgrade Card - has rotary switch clock settings on it
=MISC STUFF=
AV b Wingsb Personality card (video in/out, RCA Audio in/out) -
think these are for the Beige PowerMac G3?
2x of LC PDS Ethernet Card
PowerMac 8100/7100/6100 Accelerated Video card for PDS Slot - includes
6100 bracket
Apple Performa PDS Ethernet Card
3x of 3rd Party Apple-AUI (mini Apple port NOT DB-15) to RJ-45 transceivers
Genuine Apple-AUI (mini Apple port NOT DB-15) to RJ-45 transceiver
Quantum GoDrive 2.5b SCSI Hard drive - 40MB - Powerbook - 1992
Quantum GoDrive 2.5b SCSI Hard drive - 160MB - Powerbook - 1992
Various Drive Trays
-PowerMac 8600/9600/G3 Beige Tower
-Quadra 8xx/PowerMac 8xxx (pre-8600)
-Mac LC
Floppy Drives - Manual and Auto-inject types
Mac SE & SE/30 Rear Expansion port bracket
2x of Mac Keyboard Cable (curly grey ones)
Bundle of PhoneNet cables
PowerMac 6100/7100 Video to 15-pin Monitor adapter
(These still aren't photo'd but will take pics if interested)
--
Mark Benson
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> From: Fred Cisin
> be aware that legal advice here is often tainted by our own interests,
> hence the fiction of "abandonware".
Speak for yourself; my comments below are the legal position as best I know
it, and not influenced in any direction.
Of course, as are most people here, I am not a lawyer (although I've spent
enough money on Intellectual Property lawyers over the years to send myself
to law school, had I had the time, so I now know a little bit about the
subject :-), and my perception is that the lack of knowledge on all our parts
implicit in that is a far larger risk than any bias.
> From: Warner Losh
> Resell: sure. The copyright interest of the seller is extinguished when
> you purchase them
I don't think that's correct: any copyright rights held by any party are
generally not, AFAIK, modified by sale of the material from a second party
(i.e. not a rights holder), to a third (you).
But that's immaterial, as long as one is only selling a copy which one
purchased. As long as that copy was itself not produced in violation of a
copyright, transfer to a fourth party (whoever you sell it to) is entirely
legal. (Just like selling used books - which generally are in copyright - is
legal.) You are (I'm pretty certain) not in any danger on copyright grounds,
as long as you don't make any copies yourself. (What the situation is, if that
copy _was_ produced in violation of a copyright, I am not sure of.)
Restricted rights (such as a duty not to pass the material along) are
probably not an issue, as that is entirely a civil contract between the
issuer and the second party (above) who purchased them. If that party elects
to sell the items _without_ making a second civil contract with the third
party (you), those restrictions would not apply. For the second party's
violation, the only recourse of the first party would be to sue the second
party. Since the third party doesn't have a contract with anyone, there are
no grounds for any claim against them.
If there are trade secrets involved, I'm not 100% sure of the situation,
since there are some protections for trade secrets in the law; but those
mostly apply to deliberate theft or espionage. My suspicion is that if a
third party gains access to trade secrets through negligence on the part of
the second party - i.e. the second party giving/selling material containing
trade secrets to a third party - the third party is clear to do what they
want with the information. But maybe not, I just don't know enough about
protection of trade secrets.
The final area to be considered is theft. If the party from whom the documents
were obtained did not rightfully own them (e.g. if they technically still
belong to the first party, and they were merely on loan to the second party),
then the third party (you) can't own them either, and so you (legally) can't
sell them.
Having said all that, it would probably cost more to ascertain their exact
status (were they sold or loaned, etc) than they are worth (unless they
are worth a goodly amount). But I also suspect that the rights holder(s)
probably no longer care - but that's just a guess.
Noel
Thanks group for the links to the source.
These have passed thru many copies, and somehow have embedded control characters and such, but I am successful so far at the cleanup:
I pull the source into a fortran knowledgeable editor, I am using "blocks"
When the editor stops in the file, I drop into jedit, delete whatever is there, the invisible text and save;
restart "blocks" and it parses further
I should have this to compile in a few days.
It outputs to the Tek terminal, for those guys working on that.
Randy
ok can you spare the cube?
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 3/12/2017 7:12:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
Thanks to Chris, I have given the equipment a new home. Pics have been
taken of the two NeXT Cube boards in question and pics of the motherboard,
for good measure. I've made a post on the NeXT computer forum here for
those who may be interested:
http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4027
Thanks,
Santo
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ed via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
> let me put my name back in the hat for the cube next
computer...
> all the other stuff we have looks ok but appears like our cube may
> have met a baseball bat on part of it....
>
> poor thing would not look good in a display.
> Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
>
>
> In a message dated 3/10/2017 10:13:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
>
> On 9 March 2017 at 01:21, Ian Finder via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
> > Is someone testing a Markov chainer on the list? If so, you have some
> more
> > work to do...
>
>
> It would explain the resolute & total failure of our efforts to
> explain top-quoting to him. Er, to it.
>
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Greetings,
While downsizing, I found some Honeywell uPAC cards. There? about 2 dozen of them. They consist of the following:
od335
cc901
cc606
cc607
sr335
fa320
dj335
dk320
Physically they are in excellent shape; electrically is anybody?s guess.
I?m willing to ship them to whomever wants them.
Regards,
Todd Pisek
Saint Paul, MN
> From: Devin Davison
> This past week I managed to pick up a pdp 11/23.
Nice system; the CPU has the MMU and FPP, you've got what's probably a 256KB
memory card (an NS23M - documentation is available - depending on the chips,
it can be 64KB or 256KB - if the former, let me know, I'll swap you a 256KB
one), and I think the pair of quad cards are probably an RLV11. Not sure what
that off-brand dual card is - maybe a ROM of some sort?
I wonder what the card on top in the chassis is? It looks like it has way too
many chips on it to be just a power supply board - but I can't figure out what
it could be. Anyone know?
Noel
> From: Devin Davison
> This past week I managed to pick up a pdp 11/23.
Nice system; the CPU has the MMU and FPP, you've got what's probably a 256KB
memory card (an NS23M - documentation is available - depending on the chips,
it can be 64KB or 256KB - if the former, let me know, I'll swap you a 256KB
one), and I think the pair of quad cards are probably an RLV11. Not sure what
that off-brand dual card is - maybe a ROM of some sort?
I wonder what the card on top in the chassis is? It looks like it has way too
many chips on it to be just a power supply board - but I can't figure out what
it could be. Anyone know?
Noel
