Hi classiccmp'ers.
VCF East starts in just 8 days from now.
It's at the InfoAge Science Center in Wall, New Jersey, USA.
Three keynotes: John Blankenbaker (Friday), Stewart Cheifet (Saturday),
Ted Nelson (Sunday).
Three dozen hands-on exhibits.
TWO original Apple 1 computers, including one up-and-running.
Oh and there will be a Kenbak-1 also. :)
A dozen-ish tech classes.
8-bit game programming competition sponsored by Hackaday.
Consignment room.
And the on-site, year-round computer museum is now TWICE as large as
before. Come see awesome stuff such as our circa-1965 UNIVAC 1219B
mainframe.
Kids get in free on Saturday/Sunday.
All the details, along with online ticketing, are at
http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-east/.
> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 20:44:26 +0200
> From: supervinx <supervinx at libero.it>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: R: RE: RSX-11M trouble
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> Il giorno dom, 03/04/2016 alle 19.33 +0200, supervinx ha scritto:
>> Il giorno dom, 03/04/2016 alle 14.59 +0200, supervinx ha scritto:
>>> Hmmm.... RSX-11Mplus 4.2 aren't recognized as TSK images by "normal" 4.2
>> Well... the files have been correctly transferred... i did a DMP on both
>> sides
>> so definitely I need a 4.2 non plus.
> I SYSGENed the 4.8 image on simh, and transferred ICP.TSK, just to do
> another try...
>
> The newly inserted task, showed the same parameters, using TAL ...AT.,
> but issuing a @command causes the same big crash, dropping me on the
> initial ODT monitor.
>
> I did another test, with DMP.
> Only three blocks of the original ICP.TSK are unreadable:
> o73, o107, and o177 (all numbers are in octal), with the usuale I/O
> error -101, and no mention in ELI DU0:/SH
>
> I'm angry: the damaged ICP.TSK is TCP.TSK;3 and I did a purge to make
> room on the disk the first day I got it. Can't remember if another
> version was present...
>
> I've a couple of questions:
> 1)VFY gives me two error I can't clearly understand.
> 000541,000226 owner [1,54]
> file is marked for delete
>
> 000647,000000
> I/O error reading file header -101
>
> How can I associate xxxxxx,yyyyyy to a file name?
> I tried PIP /FI:xxxxxx:yyyyyy/LI with no luck
This is a good question but I do not know the answer.
>
> 2) the .tpc images found in the net, if converted to .tap, are suitable
> for use in TU85em? Having no tape unit, I could try to install
> everything from scratch using a tape emulator.
I would use Simh to boot a BRUSYS tape then copy the tapes to make a
bootable disk.
>
> But the best would be to have 4.2 (*not* plus) tape images or someone
> with a running installation so kind to give me the four damaged files.
>
> VFY seems not to be able to repair the FS...
>
> Thanks
The closest RSX11M (not Plus) distribution I can find is an RL01 distribution of RSX11M V4.1
Since it is disk and not tape it can be directly booted with Simh and it does have a ICP.TSK
that should be pretty compatible with V4.2 since it is from V4.1 Baseline.
You can find this RSX11M V4.1 distribution at:
ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsxdists/rsx11mplus_4_0_netkit_aq-ew97b-bc.…
It will unzip into 6 RL01 disk images and 3 update E disk images.
Below I mapped the first two disks and found a copy of ICP.TSK
on the 1 disk which is a Baseline image that should run on a range
of different hardware.
sim> sh rl
RL RLV12, address=17774400-17774411, vector=160, 4 units
RL0 2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_1of6_rsxm35.ax-d518e-bc, on line
write enabled, RL01
RL1 2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_2of6_excprv.ax-d521e-bc, on line
write enabled, RL01
RL2 2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_3of6_rlutil.ax-d522f-bc, on line
write enabled, RL01
RL3 2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_4of6_mcrsrc.ax-h927f-bc, on line
write enabled, RL01
sim> b rl0
RSX-11M V4.1 BL35 124.K MAPPED (BASELINE)
>RED DL:=SY:
>RED DL:=LB:
>MOU DL:RSXM35
>@DL:[1,2]STARTUP
>* PLEASE ENTER TIME AND DATE (HR:MN DD-MMM-YY) [S]: 20:36 5-APR-86
>TIM 20:36 5-APR-86
>* ENTER LINE WIDTH OF THIS TERMINAL [D D:132.]:
>SET /BUF=TI:132.
>ACS SY:/BLKS=512.
>@ <EOF>
>
>mou dl1:/ovr/pub/vi
Volume Information
Class: Files-11
Device: DL01
Volume label:EXCPRV
Pack serial: 00000273341
Owner: [1,1]
Protection: [RWCD,RWCD,RWCD,RWCD]
Default: [RWED,RWED,RWED,R]
Processor: F11ACP
>ins $pip
>pip [1,54]i*.tsk/li
Directory DL0:[1,54]
22-APR-83 18:16
ICP.TSK;1 142. C 22-APR-83 17:48
INI.TSK;1 58. C 22-APR-83 17:48
INS.TSK;1 60. C 22-APR-83 17:48
Total of 260./260. blocks in 3. files
>from the RL01 image you should be able to PUTR read and then write to an RX50
as you have done before.
Good Luck,
Mark
So I'm in the process of repairing a couple of M7859 KY11-LB -11/04-34
Programmer's Console boards, and the existing FM Print Set was kind of hard to
read in some areas, so I looked online for another set, and although I didn't
find one, I noticed several other people with the same issue - asking for a
better set.
My brain did eventually turn on, and I remembered DEC's habit of putting
prints for included devices in with print sets for computers, and with that in
mind, I managed to locate another set in the -11/34A print set; that one is a
lot clearer.
To my surprise, they showed a slightly different board from the one in the
existing FMPS available online: in the later version, the four 8093 quad
tri-state buffers between the UNIBUS data lines, and the internal bus, are
replaced by 74173's. I'm not sure quite what motivated this change - no
documentation that I know of refers to the existence of two different
versions.
The PCB is slightly different, but the ROMs are apparently all the same, so
>from the point of view of the i8008, the two versions must look the same. (And
given where the change is, it can't make any difference to the interface
between the card and the front panel, CPU boards, etc, so either version
should work anywhere.)
Anyway, the version in the -11/34A prints didn't include the actual front
console, plus to which the prints there had been heavily marked up by someone
at some point. So I have produced a new set of prints:
http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/pdp11/MP00015_KY11-LB_Jan78.pdf
which includes the front console pages from the earlier set, and a cleaned up
version of the pages from the -11/34A set for the M7859; hope this is useful
to someone!
Noel
While looking for DECnet documents, I noticed that there's a very large collection at http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/antonio/dec/ . Probably not news to many, but in case some had not seen it...
Among other things, there are two CD collections MDS-1997-10 and MDS-2000-01. The former contains a rather obscure document, the DECnet Phase IV Token Ring datalink spec. That also includes the Phase IV routing layer tweaks necessary to support token ring -- or other datalinks if you don't want to use the AA-00-04-00 prefix.
paul
Hi,
The board layout is complete and has passed all of the design rule checks from
the board house. I?ll be ordering some boards for me to assemble and test next
week.
I have also received a quote for ?turnkey assembly? where I hand them the files
and get back fully assembled boards. In order to get the price reasonable I have
to have 25 *firm* orders for the boards. I?ll be charging $395/ea + shipping.
If folks could let me know (private emails please) as to the quantity that they want
(don?t send $?s yet) so I know I won?t be $1000?s in the hole on this before I order
the boards.
The timing is that I?ll probably place the order for the boards (assuming sufficient
interest) in mid-May. I?ll let folks know when I have the minimum quantity.
BTW, this is for the MEM11A 128KW SPC memory board (not to be confused with
the UMF11).
TTFN - Guy
>> The closest RSX11M (not Plus) distribution I can find is an RL01 distribution of RSX11M V4.1
>> Since it is disk and not tape it can be directly booted with Simh and it does have a ICP.TSK
>> that should be pretty compatible with V4.2 since it is from V4.1 Baseline.
>> You can find this RSX11M V4.1 distribution at:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsxdists/rsx11mplus_4_0_netkit_aq-ew97b-bc.…
>>
>
> Perhaps you did a cut and paste of the wrong link?
>
> Maybe you meant this one instead:
>
> ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsxdists/rsx11m41_and_update_e.zip
Glen,
Yes, I did paste an incorrect link. Thank you for catching my mistake. Yours above is the correct one.
Mark
Now that I have my 3B2/300 up and running, I'd like to get developer
tools installed. Unfortunately, I can't find any of them on the web
anywhere.
Apparently what I'm looking for are the following packages:
* "C Programming Language Utilities"
* "Software Generation Utilities"
* "Extended Software Generation Utilities"
Apparently these three packages are contained on five diskettes.
If anyone has these, or can track them down, please let me know!
-Seth
Hi Guys
I now have a limited quantity of PDP-8/e Type A Front Panels ready to ship.
Type A is the early kind where the selector switch runs from the 12 o'clock position
anti clockwise to the six o'clock position.
If you have a paid order for a Type A then it will ship to-morrow.
The others will go in the order that I receive payments via PayPal
When they are all gone you go to the top of the list for the next batch.
PayPal Payment as follows $150 per panel plus shipping at $20 per panel,
You can order more than one but to be fair everybody who orders in time gets one and the rest to follow.
Don't worry there will be a new batch of Type A next week.
It gets better there will be a Type B release to-morrow. Same rules as above. Same Pricing
Even better PDP-8/f and PDP-8/m artwork is complete and panels will be made starting to-morrow.
Release 1-2 weeks
Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
