On 04/07/2016 2:18 PM, Bill Sudbrink wrote:
> drlegendre wrote:
>> Not saying it's going to smoke-out, but it does
>> seem like a wonky thing to do.
> I disagree about "wonky" let me try with more
> diagram and less English:
>
> (+8)
> |
> VIN| ceramic cap
> |-----][-----
> ___|____ |
> | 7805 |----------GROUND
> -------- |
> | |
> VOUT|(+5) |
> | |
> ___|____ |
> | LOAD |-------|
> --------
>
> +8 is not currently available (no pun intended).
> I would like to test LOAD without removing 7805
> as it is soldered in place. Is damage to 7805
> likely if alternative regulated current is applied
> at (+5) and (+8) is left open?
>
> Bill S.
>
>
>
Yes, you can damage the 7805 - READ the data sheets...
Raising the Output Voltage above the Input Voltage:
Since the output of the device does not sink current, forcing
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manner similar to that just described in the ?Short- ing the Regulator
Input? section.
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Bill Sudbrink wrote:
> Maybe I'm overthinking this. If I just put
> regulated +5 on the 7805 VIN will it work?
>
Isn't the minimum input voltage for a 7805, 6vdc?
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From: Bill Sudbrink
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Subject: Voltage regulator with alternate voltage source...
If you have a circuit which is normally designed to
operate with an unregulated supply, through a regulator...
say unregulated +8 through a 7805 to a regulated +5 and
you want to test it independent of the +8 supply, if
you leave the unregulated rail unattached and put +5
switcher straight onto the regulated +5 rail, will you
damage the 7805? Clearly the VIN is open, but the ground
pin will still be attached. Would this push voltage
back through and screw things up?
Thanks,
Bill S.
---------
It is a special situation I have never seen, but I would try to disconnect
the output of the 7805 before connecting a foreign +5V to the circuit.
It is good practice to have a diode reverse connected from output to input
to prevent damage to the 78xx in the case that the output voltage
gets higher than the input voltage. Normally that would not happen, but if
you have a high capacitance at the output and the load is minimal
it could be possible when power is switched off that the input voltage
dropped, but due to the big capacitor at the output the output voltage
did not yet drop. And then that diode in reverse from output to input comes
into play.
Now the input is not connected, but GND and the output are ... I would have
a look at a data sheet of the 78xx series to see what could happen
if the input is not connected, but the output is.
So, if possible, simply disconnect the 78xx output lead first.
- Henk
If you have a circuit which is normally designed to
operate with an unregulated supply, through a regulator...
say unregulated +8 through a 7805 to a regulated +5 and
you want to test it independent of the +8 supply, if
you leave the unregulated rail unattached and put +5
switcher straight onto the regulated +5 rail, will you
damage the 7805? Clearly the VIN is open, but the ground
pin will still be attached. Would this push voltage
back through and screw things up?
Thanks,
Bill S.
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