From: Mouse <mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
>> [...] industrial espionage [...]
>> One wonders how much goes undetected.
>> Most of those getting caught are in upper management. Us lowly
>> grunts don't seem to get involved as often or maybe there are those
>> among us that are just that much better at covering our tracks.
>Or, when a low-level peon is caught, it doesn't make the news, so the
>world at large doesn't notice.
This is a big part of my world these days. My wildly subjective,
overly general observations:
1) When a big fish is caught, it's usually an "I took a bunch of doco
I shouldn't have to my next job" situation. I've discussed more
nefarious high-level mole scenarios with the FBI numerous times. It
happens, but it's not apparently that common.
2) When a little fish is caught, it's usually some variation on "I'll
teach them". And as Mouse notes, effort is usually made not to
publicize the event unless there's a regulatory driver that requires
it. That said, there's a *huge* amount of little fish "espionage"
that flies under the radar. Things like client lists, marketing plans
and confidential designs quietly walk out the door all the time and
are rarely noticed. With these sorts of things, it's fiendishly
difficult to assess the impact on the victims business.
3) No one is particularly good at covering their tracks (including
people who in theory know how to do it). Unfortunately, the tools to
proactively spot data exfiltration are rarely implemented and even
more rarely implemented well. BTW...that's more an function of how
difficult the problem is rather than an indictment of the
I recently blew up a 3278... it worked ok for a few hours then started
I haven't done any troubleshooting yet but checking the manuals on
Bitsavers tells me my US 3278s have ferroresonant transformers
specified as 120V 60Hz only. This can be expected to cause problems
with 120V 50Hz here in NZ from my knowledge of how ferroresonant
transformers work; I'll get excessive magnetic currents - overheating
- all kinds of nasties. I can wind the voltage down a bit and run them
at 90-100V but that doesn't help much.
1. Does anyone in a 50Hz country have any dead/spare 3278s and/or
transformers for them? The IBM part number for the 50Hz 220V are
8715343 or 4119686.
2. I have other equipment where this will be an issue and not so
easily solved. Does anyone have any experience in or recommendations
for frequency conversion equipment? My System/3s for instance all use
60Hz ferroresonants operating off 208V 3-phase - now voltage can
probably be retapped or easily converted but I still need to make a
lot of 60Hz to run them...
'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother.
Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame.
For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.'
Over at TUHS an attempt to put the history of 2.11BSD under version
control (git) stranded somewhat.
After some digging the patchlevels that can be found in the archives
are now 195, 277, 303 and 431. The base 2.11BSD is sorely missing.
The numbered updates by Steven M. Schultz are not pure context diffs.
eg. an attempt to reverse them breaks where ld.c is removed in update
#160 and can't be pieced back together accurately using 2.10xBSD and
Maybe someone here who missed the thread on the TUHS mailing list has
a really old copy of 2.11BSD lying around?
Anybody who has not seen this film (The KGB, the Computer, and Me)
its worth a look. 1980's DEC systems everywhere, LSI terminals, HP kit,
Tape drives in action and apart from the Mac no Windows anywhere.
I think LBL must have bought one of everything.
The story (true) is not bad either.
I now expect to get a long list of weveseenits.
Sorry - I did it again and forgot to remove the junk in the subject line!
>Jerome H. Fine wrote:
> >Jay Jaeger wrote:
>>> On 12/29/2015 2:47 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
>>> I have had several folks express the desire for them. Over the day or
>>> few days (we have a gathering coming up tomorrow, and not sure I will
>>> get to it today, so it could be as late as next week), I will load them
>>> up on my Google drive in a directory structure analogous to what
>>> bitsavers uses, and send out the link.
>> The structure is similar to bitsavers, so look in:
>> There are two folders, rx01 and rx02 with .img files.
>> The image files INCLUDE TRACK 0, so depending on how you plan to use
>> them, you may need to trim off the first track first.
> Any possibility you could provide the full link? I don't see much
> in the way of information at that site to get me to those floppy images.
> There might be other DEC and non-DEC PDP-11 images that are
> of interest.
> This site also has many DEC and non-DEC files for the PDP-11
> I usually find that anything to do with google that is not totally
> to usually be a pain.
> Just on doing a search, the usual > 1,000,000 items stop being anything
> at all relevant after item 100.
> google is often good to check spelling though (LOL) - I can't spell,
> so I always use the Spell checker.
> Jerome Fine
>Jay Jaeger wrote:
>>On 12/29/2015 2:47 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
>>I have had several folks express the desire for them. Over the day or
>>few days (we have a gathering coming up tomorrow, and not sure I will
>>get to it today, so it could be as late as next week), I will load them
>>up on my Google drive in a directory structure analogous to what
>>bitsavers uses, and send out the link.
>The structure is similar to bitsavers, so look in:
>There are two folders, rx01 and rx02 with .img files.
>The image files INCLUDE TRACK 0, so depending on how you plan to use
>them, you may need to trim off the first track first.
Any possibility you could provide the full link? I don't see much
in the way of information at that site to get me to those floppy images.
There might be other DEC and non-DEC PDP-11 images that are
This site also has many DEC and non-DEC files for the PDP-11
I usually find that anything to do with google that is not totally obvious
to usually be a pain.
Just on doing a search, the usual > 1,000,000 items stop being anything
at all relevant after item 100.
google is often good to check spelling though (LOL) - I can't spell,
so I always use the Spell checker.
On Dec 30, 2015, at 12:00 PM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 14:47:17 -0600
> From: Jay Jaeger <cube1 at charter.net>
> To: cctech at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Software for DEC MINC systems
> Message-ID: <5682F155.3050205 at charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>> On 12/27/2015 10:15 PM, Mark Matlock wrote:
>>>> The software I am looking for are the MINC software packages FEP (Fortran Enhancement Package) V2.1 and FRP (Fortran Real_time Package) V1.0. Also SSP V1.3 (Scientific Subroutines Package) and LSP V1.2 (Laboratory Subroutines Package) would be great to find as well. These all run under RT-11 and I understand that there was also a version (V1.1) of FEP and V1.0 of FRP that ran under RSX11M which would be fantastic to find as I am more interested in RSX11M. This is based on documents in the MINC folder in the bitsavers online archives.
>>> I have some MINC hardware (also a MINC/23 I think) and software, but it
>>> does not look like I have what you are looking for.
>>> What I do have images of (except for the one marked "(Bad)" that seem
>>> likely MINC related:
>>> CONTENTS COMMENT
>>> LAB Applications-11 Library V3 DEC-11-SLABA-C-YB, NSUM=41906
>>> LAB Applications-11 Lib Source 1 of 3 DEC-11-SLABA-C-YA1, NSUM=56190
>>> LAB Applications-11 Lib Source 2 of 3 DEC-11-SLABA-C-YA2, NSUM=28900
>>> LAB Applications-11 Lib Source 3 of 3 DEC-11-SLABA-C-YA3, NSUM=65055
>>> CONTENTS COMMENT
>>> PLOT, Ver June '80 DECUS 11-381 RT-11 Media(KA) (Bad)
>>> MINC BASIC/FORTRAN IV VIR TERM DECUS 11-417 RT-11, NSUM=22281
>>> PLOTTING PKG For RT-11 FORTRAN DECUS 11-431 RT-11, NSUM=12228
>>> LABORATORY APPLICATIONS-11 1 of 4, (KD) DECUS 11-448 RT-11, NSUM=15424
>>> LABORATORY APPLICATIONS-11 2 of 4, (KD) DECUS 11-448 RT-11, NSUM=1369
>>> LABORATORY APPLICATIONS-11 3 of 4, (KD) DECUS 11-448 RT-11, NSUM=2841
>>> LABORATORY APPLICATIONS-11 4 of 4, (KD) DECUS 11-448 RT-11, NSUM=21353
>>> FEP2: FINITE ELEMENT PROG 3DIM 1 of 2 KB DECUS 11-461 RT-11, NSUM=14187
>>> FEP2: FINITE ELEMENT PROG 3DIM 2 of 2 KB DECUS 11-461 RT-11, NSUM=26552
>>> CONTENTS COMMENT
>>> MINC MA DEMO/23 V2.0 BIN RX2 BA-J837B-BC, NSUM=04649
>>> MINC MA DEMO/03 V2.0 BIN RX2 BA-H107D-BC, NSUM=58263
>>> MINC MA SYS/23 V2.0 BIN RX2 BA-J836B-BC, NSUM=17510
>>> MINC MA SYS/03 V2.0 BIN RX2 BA-H106D-BC, NSUM=61253
> I have had several folks express the desire for them. Over the day or
> few days (we have a gathering coming up tomorrow, and not sure I will
> get to it today, so it could be as late as next week), I will load them
> up on my Google drive in a directory structure analogous to what
> bitsavers uses, and send out the link.
Thank you so much for putting the RX01 and RX02 images on your Google drive. This afternoon I was able to download them all and in RT11/Simh copy all the files to a large DU: type drive to both verify that the disk images downloaded correctly and to put everything in one convenient volume to load on a microSD card for the SCSI2SD transfer to a real PDP-11. I didn't notice any file names duplicating as I combined the contents of the floppies and if that the case there were 168 files on the RX01s and 64 files on the RX02s with a combined size of 3976 blocks.
Browsing through the files I saw lots of great example code for a wide range of scientific routines!! Thanks again for taking the time to put the files out there.
I have boxes full of like-new PSION II organizers that I recently received from a US distributed.
These aren't rare or valuable, but they are new in the box and seemingly never used.
There are different models, with both 2 and 4 line displays, and different amounts of memory.
I also have memory modules, cables, and development documentation.
There's also a PSION module duplicactor.
If any of this interests anyone, let me know.
Also: 50 pounds of old PC parallel, serial, video cables, etc.
You can see pictures here:
If anyone is interested, I know where there are 3 or 4 unused PDP-8As that
are 120/50. I ask about the configuration and am waiting for him to get
back to me, but they seem to be 12 slot core boxes.
Amazing the new 50 or so year stuff still out there.