i have been thinking of running a good dos machine or finding one. i find that each machine is different from the hardware to the way it runs the software. some have the use of a hard drive and some don't i have thought of wanting a sorta high end dos machine one that has the use of a hard drive and can run any program that dos can run and not have issues. i remember with dos some programs would run to fast on some machines but with others they would run just fine or to slow. around in seattle its hard for me to find a good dos machine since most of the older machines that became unwanted got sent to a computer ecycler where it got stripped down and killed off for free or that the store sells the stuff for more then what its worth as a whole. maybe one of you might have something or know some stuff.
Does anyone have a copy of this? It doesn't appear to be on bitsavers, or
anywhere else for that matter. Information in general on VAXBI seems to be
difficult to come by, so any is welcomed.
Hello all,
As moderator of cctech, and also looking after cctalk, the amount of
spam I'm dealing with is becoming extreme. There are about four times
as many spam mails which I need to reject as there are proper postings.
So could I ask that you choose subject lines sensibly, or you may find
they never get through to the list. Subjects like "Look at this" or
"For sale" aren't a good idea.
That's all, keep up the good work!
--
Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk
The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
Hi,
I have two Netwinder 275s with Power Supplies. One lacks the
daughtercard that provided the serial port and second ethernet adaptor.
I think I have one of the original keyboards as well.
First in best dressed for one or both, free for the cost of
postage/shipping from Canberra, Australia.
Both were working last time I fired them up.
Cheers,
Hugh
I don't know how many of you fine people are familiar with the MUMPS
programming language, but MUMPS development accounts for about 50% of
my income. Considering that it has as storied of a background as UNIX
(having been first implemented in ~1966), and is old, I'm wondering if
any of you have any thoughts about it.
Also, I'm wondering if any private collections have any older MUMPS
implementations around, not necessarily so that I can try to get them,
but so that I can find out if they've been preserved. Since
InterSystems bought out Digital Standard MUMPS, as well as
contemporaries from Micronetics and DataTree, these old
implementations seem rare and hard to find. I've long wanted to get
ahold of a VAX-based MUMPS implementation, but the closest thing I've
ever found is an installed copy of DSM for Alpha on a cluster I picked
up, with no media.
Any thoughts or information?
jpw
----- Original Message -----
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:07:47 +0100
From: Peter Corlett <abuse at cabal.org.uk>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>...So what you're saying is that you want to butt into a busy community to ask them for help, but aren't prepared to actually participate or give back? And you then wonder why they have their mailing lists configured to discourage this behaviour?
----- Reply -----
Gee, I thought what he was saying is that he thought that at least some members of this "busy community" would be generous enough with their time and knowledge to be willing to help a fellow hobbyist without demanding something in return (as many indeed are!)...
As Fred mentions elsewhere, it works both ways; on several occasions a
Google search has popped up a request on some list looking for a part or
documentation that I happen to have, but when I saw what I'd have to go
through just in order to reply I decided to pass...
Even if there were indeed flamewars 25 years ago, that doesn't mean that we can't be patient, civil and even friendly today, especially with fellow members of a rather unique community and list of which the main raison d'etre is to share and help each other...
m
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> I don't know how many of you fine people are familiar with the MUMPS
> programming language, but MUMPS development accounts for about 50% of
> my income. Considering that it has as storied of a background as UNIX
> (having been first implemented in ~1966), and is old, I'm wondering if
> any of you have any thoughts about it.
>
> Also, I'm wondering if any private collections have any older MUMPS
> implementations around, not necessarily so that I can try to get them,
> but so that I can find out if they've been preserved. Since
> InterSystems bought out Digital Standard MUMPS, as well as
> contemporaries from Micronetics and DataTree, these old
> implementations seem rare and hard to find. I've long wanted to get
> ahold of a VAX-based MUMPS implementation, but the closest thing I've
> ever found is an installed copy of DSM for Alpha on a cluster I picked
> up, with no media.
>
> Any thoughts or information?
>
> jpw
>
>
> When I was at Living Computer Museum, I found some RLs that contained DSM
for PDP-11. Also, Kevin Murrell at TNMOC and I discussed MUMPS but I'm not
sure what he/they might have.
Since LCM has a working PDP-7, I was always looking for a copy of the
original MUMPS. If this email thread surfaces such a find, please let Rich
at LCM know! -- Ian
--
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS
Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School
University of Washington
Madness takes its toll - please have exact change.
I've seen 16, 22, and 24 cited as the official number. The VAX architecture
manual seems to suggest 24. If the number is indeed more than 16, how are
they encoded? Seeing as how the manual says 4 bits are used for specifying
the specific mode, and 4 for the register selection, and seems to imply
that the operand specifier is always a byte long.
Sorry for the potentially dumb question.
They all have drives, they are all set for serial console operation (four
of them were a small 4 node cluster at one point) I believe they have 16MB
of memory but they may have 24MB (that was the max for those machines). Not
sure what postage to Portland would be, I'm shipping one to Eric Smith so
I'll have a good number on that. I shipped a VT340 to a guy in Colorado and
packed and shipped with that giant keyboard they came with came out to $72
so I'm guessing it will be about 1/2 that (given its volume). They are easy
to MOP boot (which makes netbsd on them pretty easy or a network install of
VMS) if you use a SCSI CDROM you of course need one that will read as 512
byte sectors. I'm also throwing in an AUI <-> 10BaseT adapter (they all had
one) since its a pain to find AUI ethernet hubs these days.
--Chuck
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Benjamin Huntsman <
BHuntsman at mail2.cu-portland.edu> wrote:
> How much do you think shipping would be to 97601?
> I'd take at least one if you haven't sold them all off yet...
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Ben
>
> ________________________________________
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] on
> behalf of Jason T [silent700 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:40 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only
> Subject: Re: I've got some VAXStation VLCs available
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Chuck McManis <chuck.mcmanis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > This the smallest VAX you can own :-) I've got 6 or 7 I would like to
> > get adopted. Available free for local pickup (Sunnyvale, CA) or if
> > you're willing to pay packing and postage I can take them to the local
> > shipping shore and have them sent off to you.
>
> AKA the 4000/30, IIRC. A nice little desktop.
>
> Are there drives, memory?
>
> -j
>
