Thank you to everyone who has responded so far.
Let me clarify a little - Marty and I are looking for a list of computers
>from about 1971 and earlier (1977 at the latest, but the real focus is on
the 1960s) that had the capability of playing Spacewar. We've had reports
of a few different machines running it, but obviously there are going to be
a lot of gaps in oral history. Having a list of machines with displays
(CRT, vector, or other) would help identify where some of those gaps might
Here are all the machines we've had reports of Spacewar on them:
5. PDP-8 (probably text-based version)
10. HP59825 desktop calculator
11. 544 ARTW/Trajectory Division
14. IBM System/360 (IBM 2250 Model 1 display) or 2250-4 (a 2250/1130
16. Data General NOVA
17. IMLAC PDS-1
18. Virtual Machine Facility/370 (VM/370)
Note some of these have multiple versions created in different locations
1972 is a key date because that's when PLATO went on the ARPANET, and
software could be more widely distributed. This was also the first year
that Spacewar was written for a home computer in BYTE Magazine. 1977 was
the release of the arcade version and publication of a version for the
Want to clarify that we're not looking for home computer releases, unless
maybe you have examples earlier than 1977.
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 05:08:41PM +0100, Dave wrote:
> > If you are talking 1960's I think the real answer is "not much". I
> There was quite a bit actually. The LINC, LINC-8, PDP-1 and
> PDP-12 all had vector displays. There was also an add-on for the
> original PDP-8 and PDP-6, display 340 or something like that.
> These are all DEC of course, Martin might be interested in the
> TX-0 from MIT unless it's out of scope.
Guys I bought an Amiga with over 7,500 Pirated Amiga Warez Disks And
Demos, you name it its on these disks.
Just looking to sell them cheap to someone outright who will archive
them and post them online for everyone. Like 250 dollars for the
entire lot cheap. And they will ship media mail even cheaper
On 06/01/2014 08:48 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> I've got a PDT-11/150 and would like to get something I can boot on it.
The PDT-150 is (almost?) identical to the MiniMINC. I made some floppy
images from my disk set (.IMD):
I have a small collection of PDP8's and PDP11's in Adelaide South Australia.
The group is made up of a PDP 8/L, 2 X PDP 8/E's, 2 X PDP 8/F's, a PDP
11/10, a PDP 11/20, and a PDP 11/44. The 8/L is bare but the rest have
RK05's except the 11/44 and an 8/F with floppies. Their purchase was
arranged by me in the 1970's and they have been given to me by the
School of Psychology at the University of Adelaide. They have been
stored in an air conditioned environment since purchase.
A couple of years ago when I began to think about disposing of this
equipment my ambitions were quite small and I thought I would just put
them up on ebay and see what happened. Since then I have looked at the
computers more closely and with the assistance of the former engineer
involved at the time we have put 3 of the computers back in operation.
As far was we can tell the PDP 8/L runs trivial programs, the PDP 8/F
with floppies runs OS/8, and one of the PDP 8/E's runs the processor OK
but the Plessey disk (RK05 look alike) didn't boot (but we'll fix that).
Currently the former engineer is a lecturer in Computer Science and has
expressed an interest in one of the PDP8's in a running state as an
exhibit in his office. I may keep the 11/44 but we need to dispose of
the rest, eventually, and in a running state.
We think we will put up the 8/L for sale first. The package consists of
the 4K PDP 8/L, a BA08 Expansion Box containing a KV8/L controller, a
Tektronix 611 display and a 1250VA DEC Autotransformer to run the 115V
8/L system in the 230V land of Australia, and associated documentation.
The PDP 8/L powers up and the fans and power supplies check out. Memory
addresses can be examined by auto incrementing through memory. Data can
be deposited in memory. Trivial programs seem to execute and switches
seem to perform their intended function (allowing for a little
intermittent functioning after 30 years stasis). I believe both the PDP
8/L and the KV8/L controller can be functioning systems.
I know there is an international market for this equipment but is there
anyone or any group in this country (Australia) that we might give
advance notice of an intention to sell this sort computing equipment?
Let me know if you are interested or want further information
(bob.willson at adelaide.edu.au).
Bob Willson Phone : +61 08 8272 3659
School of Psychology Fax : +61 08 8303 3770
University of Adelaide Email : bob.willson at adelaide.edu.au
Adelaide, South Australia 5005 CRICOS: 00123M
I?m interested in two boards. Don?t care either through hole or surface mount.
On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:26 AM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 14:43:00 -0400
> From: David Gesswein <djg at pdp8online.com>
> To: cctech at classiccmp.org
> Subject: MFM reader emulator
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> I have now completed layouts for a PCB for the MFM disk reader and emulator
> that I mentioned back in February. I will add to my order boards for others
> who are interested. I am not planning to kit or assemble. You will
> have to do that yourself.
> For information on the board see
> Email me if you have any comments or questions.
> I did two different layouts, one all through hole and one with 3 surface
> mount chips that has some minor advantages. See link above for discussion.
> I plan to only order one version.
> If you are interested in a PCB's email me with
> 1) How many you wish
> 2) If you prefer or are only interested in the through hole or surface mount
> Unless you state I don't need to I will email you back when I get ready
> to order with the final price for confirmation that you still wish them.
> I plan to collect money when I am ready to ship them.
> The cost to make one is:
> Beaglebone $55 (they increased the flash by 2G and the price by $10)
> PCB $30 (depends significantly on quantity)
> Parts $54. Can reduce by $24 if you don't need the holdup capacitors.
> See the BOM for parts and prices. See description of board for what
> the holdup capacitors do.
> TBD Shipping
> Unless only a few are desired I will likely buy a couple cheap PCB's without
> the hard gold on the edge fingers to verify I haven't made a serious error.
> This will delay final order. I tried to get my cat to peer review but it only
> shredded the paper.
i recently got a MAI Basic Four 210 from the Netherlands. The CPU now
powers up, have not yet tried the 14" Piram harddisk.
I would like to know if the CPU is working. It seems to be based on a
microdata 1600 but equiped with dram and cmos ROMs.
The machine has switches were it can be set to boot standard/alternate
>from disk, tape or from a serial terminal. Since
the tape drive has a capstan roller transformed to liquid and i have not
yet tested the disk i would like to know how to
boot from a terminal.
I have not yet read the microcode proms nor have i checked if they are
soldered or on sockets.
Does someone out there have access to the cpu manuals that are stated in
the service manual ?
1300 CPU Technical Manual, Document No. SM 1200
M1300 Series CPU Organisation and Description Reference Manual
Pictures from the machine are here:
and the manuals are on bitsavers in pdf/mai, the service manual also
contains the cpu schematics, the ones for the tape
controller and the disk controller are included in the tape / disk
What do you think are the chances to get the disk up and running. (since
i have no tapes of other software)
All seems to be stored dry, no rust, nor a lot of dirt in the machine.
Seemd to be powered on the last time more than 15 years ago.
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Looking for the pcmcia (pccard) drivers for IBM Ethernet II Credit Card
adapter and IBM Home and Away 14.4 Modem/Ethernet drivers...
Looking to set up classic Win3.1 and OS/2 on an old 760 laptop.
d|i|g|i|t|a|l had it THEN. Don't you wish you could still buy it now!
I don't know if the way I did it on my 486 box would work on a 286, but I simply looked up the spec's
to my compact flash device on google and simply treated it like a hard drive.? I then installed MS DOS via
floppy disks onto the CF card pretending it's a hard drive.
Hey guys, we're on the next phase of our paper we're presenting at a
conference soon and are hoping to collect a listing of 1960s era mainframes
and minis that had CRT displays available for them. We're obviously already
aware of the various DEC models released in the 60s that had them, but
we're looking for other brands now.
If you guys would be so kind to help us out (since we're in a bit of a time
crunch) and share the following, it would be awesome!
Computer maker and model:
Dot, vector, or character display: