test-drb April 2014

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by jws＠jwsss.com

I hope you all document what you guys do, and the rest of us can look at photos and proceedings as you can put up. I'd also look in on a hangout, or look at webcam coverage if it is going to be up. thanks jim

10 years

anyone with photos or old papers from phoenix union HS district computer info?

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Please - anyone with photos or old papers from phoenix union HS district computer info? I have found more stuff but need to add more orig or scanned or 3d objects The centerpiece in the display is the 2116 that was from their hp-2000a timeshare system. We also have a collection build around the HP 2000 that Maricopa community college district used too. Drop us a note off list please . Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC In a message dated 4/2/2014 12:45:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org writes: Send cctalk mailing list submissions to cctalk at classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctalk-request at classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctalk-owner at classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: CSC Hard Drive Bible, was Re: IDE and LBA support... Non-PC (allison) 2. Re: CSC Hard Drive Bible, was Re: IDE and LBA support... Non-PC (Chuck Guzis) 3. Re: CSC Hard Drive Bible, was Re: IDE and LBA support... Non-PC (steve shumaker) 4. Re: IBM 6-ring Field Engineering binders (Jacob Lindberg) 5. Re: WTD - 40-track (360K) 5.25in floppy drive (Liam Proven) 6. Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges (Liam Proven) 7. IBM HDD sled anyone? (Ola Hughson) 8. Re: IBM 6-ring Field Engineering binders (Al Kossow) 9. Re: IBM HDD sled anyone? (Liam Proven) 10. Re: IBM HDD sled anyone? (Liam Proven) 11. More kit for sale: PC 40t DD FDD, Apple Powerbook 170 (Liam Proven) 12. Re: IBM 6-ring Field Engineering binders (Jacob Lindberg) 13. Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges (Todd Goodman) 14. Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges (supervinx) 15. Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges (Liam Proven) 16. Vintage systems available in San Jose, California (Seth Morabito) 17. Re: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California (Adrian Graham) 18. Re: NeXT equipment up for sale (Gary Sparkes) 19. Re: IBM HDD sled anyone? (Ola Hughson) 20. Re: IBM HDD sled anyone? (Ola Hughson) 21. Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges (supervinx) 22. Re: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California (supervinx) 23. Re: Group buy for PDP-8/e/a/f/m 32K RAM kit ends Monday (John Wilson) 24. Re: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California (John H. Reinhardt) 25. Re: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California (SPC) 26. FREE: TLV320AIC3106 audio codec and Schmartboard (David Griffith) 27. Re: Pdp11 2.11bsd floppy direct access (Roe Peterson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:24:48 -0400 From: allison <ajp166 at verizon.net> To: cctech at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: CSC Hard Drive Bible, was Re: IDE and LBA support... Non-PC Message-ID: <533AF660.3000104 at verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 04/01/2014 12:31 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > On 4/1/14 9:27 AM, allison wrote: > >> I ended up testing about 20 drives and all under 420mb tested did not >> support LBA. >> > > And what models might they be? Other than the Prodrives you mentioned (over 250M and after 1995), St3660A, WD520MB (also dated coded 1995 or later). I had one 740 and one 820mb 2.5" that also did. And a segate(memory test) tidbit 2.5" thick (old laptop) drive that didn't do LBA but does 8bit transfer. I passed on all of them as I needed a minimum two and preferably the same. The 3660As and the Toshiba/IBMs fit the bill. The Toshibas were picked as they only needed 5V to simplify life further. The project is CP/M related. CPU will be Z80. Allison ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 10:34:54 -0700 From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: CSC Hard Drive Bible, was Re: IDE and LBA support... Non-PC Message-ID: <533AF8BE.9090300 at sydex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 04/01/2014 09:52 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2014, Steven M Jones wrote: >> Reminds me of Corporate Systems Center's Hard Drive Bible. When I got a >> copy, it was a three-ring binder full of specs on MFM and ESDI drives. >> Looks like you can browse the 8th edition on Archive.org. Later versions (e.v. VIII) came with a CD also. Since I've never looked at the CD, I don't know what's on it. Perhaps Mike Farris' hard drive index has more information? http://mfarris.com/hard/1776.html --Chuck ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:34:45 -0700 From: steve shumaker <shumaker at att.net> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: CSC Hard Drive Bible, was Re: IDE and LBA support... Non-PC Message-ID: <533B14D5.4050505 at att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 4/1/2014 9:52 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: >>> My mind isn't coming up with the name of the software or reference but >>> wasn't there a huge hardware database program with hundreds or >>> thousands of hard drive specs listed? Maybe that implies they're all >>> CHS though. I think the name was pretty simple though. Something >>> hardware Reference? Not that much help I know. >>> > "The-REF"? > > On Tue, 1 Apr 2014, Steven M Jones wrote: > >> Reminds me of Corporate Systems Center's Hard Drive Bible. When I got a >> copy, it was a three-ring binder full of specs on MFM and ESDI drives. >> Looks like you can browse the 8th edition on Archive.org. >> > The copy that I FPUIB'ed out last summer was a 1990 looseleaf(binder), > plus some loose printouts. > CSC also briefly put out an elegant hardcover edition. > > > Unfortunately, none of those MFM listings of cylinders and heads will help > with Allison's quest for an IDE drive with LBA. > > > -- > Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com > http://www.xenosoft.com/FPUIB > > and a mighty fine copy it is!!! steve ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 22:21:18 +0200 From: Jacob Lindberg <lindberg.jacob at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: IBM 6-ring Field Engineering binders Message-ID: <1F1563D9-3BAC-44E1-8112-1323A8EDB1B7 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I took a few photos of the books i have. Sorry about the bad picture quality. If anything is interesting i'll try scanning them this summer. I don't know if i have a scanner that is large enough to handle the field engineering book though.. i'll have to check that. 8" disk for scale. Bonus image of a system/34 operator panel. http://imgur.com/a/MUpid //Jacob 31 mar 2014 kl. 11:15 skrev Jerry Kemp - other <other at oryx.cc>: > +1 > > I would 2nd that request. I would love to see any System/34 or System/36 stuff. > > Jerry > > > On 03/28/14 05:23 PM, Benjamin Huntsman wrote: >> I have a few of the field engineering books, brand-new old stock, but not the 6-ring binder to put them in... >> >> Thanks though! The System/34 stuff would probably be great to have on bitsavers either way! >> >> -Ben >> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:24:00 +0100 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: WTD - 40-track (360K) 5.25in floppy drive Message-ID: <CAMTenCHpNzzOm+5xCn9-95LN0Evyza18A72oOWjVfZ0Suf2rXQ at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 22 July 2013 01:25, Philip Pemberton <classiccmp at philpem.me.uk> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm trying to get my hands on a 5.25in double-sided 40 tracks per side > "360K" floppy drive with the Shugart or IBM PC 34-pin connector (either > edge connector or pin header is fine). Does anyone have a spare they'd > like to part with? Slight preference for Teac or Mitsubishi, but > anything will do at this point. > > I've checked Ebay, there are tons in the US (complete with "seller does > not ship internationally, don't even ask"), but the only ones I've seen > from UK sellers are parts scalpers wanting stupid money for them (?149 > "sold untested with no guarantee"? really?). > > A BBC Micro 40-track drive would also be fine -- as long as it's native > 40-track, not 40/80 track switchable or double-stepping (an 80-track > drive mated to a PCB which double-steps the head). Cumana, Viglen and a > few other companies made these, they were extremely common a few years ago. > > I'm on the verge of getting DiscFerret write support working (at least > for UNIX PC disks) but the sodding thing won't read anything my 80-track > drives have written! > I'd rather not borrow the 3B1's drive - the DiscFerret is experimental > and a benchtop lashup is hardly an ideal scenario. Pardon me for reviving an old thread, but I've found a 360kB drive in the garage. It's on eBay for an opening bid of 1p: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/271442092962 -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:47:13 +0100 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges Message-ID: <CAMTenCHc-fGxaiXJXFKRj=BJdVzPBHMu-fNfxJkN7FpFejA+Rw at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 24 March 2014 21:22, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote: > Not a single bid at one penny on eBay, so does anyone want to save a > few of these from the bin? I have a box of about 25 TK-50s here, > mostly 3M brand ones. No idea of working condition. > > Happy to send anywhere in the world for the cost of postage. I have > hundreds of jiffy bags (padded envelopes) so not even asking for a > donation for packaging - just post at cost. > > Happy to send via surface post to keep costs down - it's generally > about 2/3 the price of airmail. > > They're in London, UK and you can of course collect for free. > > Last time I mentioned these I had several requests but nobody's reappeared... I should have guessed that this would happen. No bids, no watchers at 1p on eBay, so I offer them at free-for-the-postage and get a dozen people wanting them, including being willing to pay postage to half the world - France, Italy, South Africa and various bits of North America! So I am not sure how I can divide these up equitably. I'm not looking to make a profit here, just not throw them, and ideally, not post 20-odd tapes out individually. I would welcome suggestions, folks! But please, don't reply just to me - either to everyone, or better still, on the 2 mailing lists I posted the offer on - Sun-Rescue and ClassicCmp Talk. What do people think? Try to just divide them up equally, or what? -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 23:10:13 +0200 From: Ola Hughson <f.helyanvy at gmail.com> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: IBM HDD sled anyone? Message-ID: <20140401231013.1a7ad4626e4fa20e96f86b1c at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I need a HDD sled [ I have the HDD already] for Loviatar [http://olatheskunk.pl/computers/Loviatar.html]. For those, who doesn't want to click: Loviatar is how I call my IntelliStation POWER 275. I got it for free last year, just had to transport it across country. If anyone has unnecessary sled that is compatible with it' I'd like to get it. [Of course unless this will cost $5000 ;) ] (-) Ola Hughson ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 14:15:26 -0700 From: Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: IBM 6-ring Field Engineering binders Message-ID: <533B2C6E.6030007 at bitsavers.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 4/1/14 1:21 PM, Jacob Lindberg wrote: > I took a few photos of the books i have. Sorry about the bad picture quality. If anything is interesting i'll try scanning them this summer. > compare it with what's already up at http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/system34 before spending a whole lot of time on it. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 22:19:43 +0100 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: IBM HDD sled anyone? Message-ID: <CAMTenCFwXq2Zwhx3qPFJfb+AZjEUqmmKOY83NZZ++uoyDKpXcw at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 1 April 2014 22:10, Ola Hughson <f.helyanvy at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello! > I need a HDD sled [ I have the HDD already] for Loviatar [http://olatheskunk.pl/computers/Loviatar.html]. > > For those, who doesn't want to click: Loviatar is how I call my IntelliStation POWER 275. I got it for free last year, just had to transport it across country. > > If anyone has unnecessary sled that is compatible with it' I'd like to get it. > > [Of course unless this will cost $5000 ;) ] > > (-) Any idea what it looks like? I have 1 or 2 lying around, mostly on old SCSI drives... -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 22:20:27 +0100 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: IBM HDD sled anyone? Message-ID: <CAMTenCExDcMAW04J_HnLaiFRydy7k9mkSTQZcMi3OEHjtimbww at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 1 April 2014 22:10, Ola Hughson <f.helyanvy at gmail.com> wrote: > I need a HDD sled [ I have the HDD already] for Loviatar [http://olatheskunk.pl/computers/Loviatar.html]. Also, I see that you are looking for a Powerbook 170. As it happens, I just listed one on eBay, for 1p. :?) -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 22:22:15 +0100 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: More kit for sale: PC 40t DD FDD, Apple Powerbook 170 Message-ID: <CAMTenCHUvGNPL=wb5MfTuny4-cVb47YKHqrAwhyuefyVxiPz6g at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 COPAL 5.25" 40-track DD (360kB) floppy drive http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271442092962 Apple Powerbook 170 (working) with maxed-out RAM, PSU & carry case http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271442171161 Apologies for the spam, but I've seen people looking for 360kB drives (sorry, Fred) before and I thought the Powerbook might be of interest here too... -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 23:38:33 +0200 From: Jacob Lindberg <lindberg.jacob at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: IBM 6-ring Field Engineering binders Message-ID: <3AB7EB90-C38E-4DCE-A366-485F66867CD1 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks for that! it looks like almost everything is already there. //Jacob 1 apr 2014 kl. 23:15 skrev Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>: > On 4/1/14 1:21 PM, Jacob Lindberg wrote: >> I took a few photos of the books i have. Sorry about the bad picture quality. If anything is interesting i'll try scanning them this summer. >> > > compare it with what's already up at http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/system34 before spending a whole lot of time on it. > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:23:55 -0400 From: Todd Goodman <tsg at bonedaddy.net> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges Message-ID: <20140401222354.GM32381 at ns1.bonedaddy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii * Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> [140401 16:51]: > On 24 March 2014 21:22, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote: > > Not a single bid at one penny on eBay, so does anyone want to save a > > few of these from the bin? I have a box of about 25 TK-50s here, > > mostly 3M brand ones. No idea of working condition. > > > > Happy to send anywhere in the world for the cost of postage. I have > > hundreds of jiffy bags (padded envelopes) so not even asking for a > > donation for packaging - just post at cost. > > > > Happy to send via surface post to keep costs down - it's generally > > about 2/3 the price of airmail. > > > > They're in London, UK and you can of course collect for free. > > > > Last time I mentioned these I had several requests but nobody's reappeared... > > I should have guessed that this would happen. No bids, no watchers at > 1p on eBay, so I offer them at free-for-the-postage and get a dozen > people wanting them, including being willing to pay postage to half > the world - France, Italy, South Africa and various bits of North > America! > > So I am not sure how I can divide these up equitably. I'm not looking > to make a profit here, just not throw them, and ideally, not post > 20-odd tapes out individually. I would welcome suggestions, folks! But > please, don't reply just to me - either to everyone, or better still, > on the 2 mailing lists I posted the offer on - Sun-Rescue and > ClassicCmp Talk. > > What do people think? Try to just divide them up equally, or what? I'll bow out since you have enough interest. Thanks! Todd ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 00:46:25 +0200 From: supervinx <supervinx at libero.it> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges Message-ID: <1396392385.2312.0.camel at SVX-NOTEBOOK> Content-Type: text/plain Relist them on ebay and open the fox-chase :D ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 00:08:00 +0100 From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges Message-ID: <CAMTenCHgkqVSDf-Mb_qvJriByyU3m+ZzzXQdwSkJocyXREfb1A at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 1 April 2014 23:46, supervinx <supervinx at libero.it> wrote: > Relist them on ebay and open the fox-chase :D That is a /very/ tempting idea, it must be said! -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:41:47 -0400 From: Seth Morabito <lists at loomcom.com> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California Message-ID: <20140401234147.GA20814 at mail.loomcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Through a random eBay purchase, I found a nice little collection of stuff in San Jose, CA near 880/101. The owner's name is Tom Thinh, and he's got a 10'x20' (-ish) unit packed with stuff he's trying to sell. He says he's been collecting the stuff for years. He seems friendly and reasonable to haggle with as a businessman. I asked him if it would be OK to pass along his information to the list, he was happy for me to do so. While I was there picking up an AT&T Unix PC, I saw the following: - Another AT&T Unix PC. - Some AT&T 3B2's. - A stack of pizza-box VAXen of various types. - MicroVAX I or II in a BA-123 chassis (couldn't see the badge). - A Symbolics 3610 [NB: I saw a keyboard, but didn't see the Symbolics console anywhere, but he says he thinks he has it in there... somewhere] - A BeBox. - A small army of NeXTstation - both color and mono, lots of monitors and keyboards and sound boxes. Also a couple of printers in original boxes. - Amigas (at least one 2000 and a 4000 with video toaster). - VT100 terminal. - Several Data General 9-track tapes (what looked like an A/OS distribution? DG is not my strong suit). Lots more. That's just what I remember. There were also random PC things and parts and manuals and so forth. Anyway, if you're interested, you can contact Tom directly (not me!), voice or text, at 1-408-874-6471 -Seth ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 01:02:47 +0100 From: Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California Message-ID: <CF611237.45101%witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" On 02/04/2014 00:41, "Seth Morabito" <lists at loomcom.com> wrote: > Through a random eBay purchase, I found a nice little collection of > stuff in San Jose, CA near 880/101. The owner's name is Tom Thinh, > and he's got a 10'x20' (-ish) unit packed with stuff he's trying to > sell. He says he's been collecting the stuff for years. He seems > friendly and reasonable to haggle with as a businessman. I asked him > if it would be OK to pass along his information to the list, he was > happy for me to do so. > > While I was there picking up an AT&T Unix PC, I saw the following: > > - Another AT&T Unix PC. > - Some AT&T 3B2's. > - A stack of pizza-box VAXen of various types. > - MicroVAX I or II in a BA-123 chassis (couldn't see the badge). > - A Symbolics 3610 [NB: I saw a keyboard, but didn't see the Symbolics > console anywhere, but he says he thinks he has it in there... > somewhere] > - A BeBox. > - A small army of NeXTstation - both color and mono, > lots of monitors and keyboards and sound boxes. Also > a couple of printers in original boxes. > - Amigas (at least one 2000 and a 4000 with video toaster). > - VT100 terminal. > - Several Data General 9-track tapes (what looked like > an A/OS distribution? DG is not my strong suit). I wasn't going to read this, then I did. Then I wished I hadn't. Wrong side of the Pond :/ -- Adrian/Witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer collection? ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:51:59 -0400 From: Gary Sparkes <mokuba at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: NeXT equipment up for sale Message-ID: <CAH5WRh4UhVYF0YP3tay9LUEN5qtVKHiy28uHbDDi1YP2LTOY1Q at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not aware of him, but please forward my info to him. That'd be great. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Jerry Kemp - other <other at oryx.cc> wrote: > Hello Gary, > > I'm not sure if you are aware of Mr. Bill from the Sun Rescue list. > > He's a great guy who has done a lot of great things in saving older > systems and assisting lots of people. > > He (Mr. Bill) had recently announced that he had wanted a NeXT cube for > quite some time. > > Unless you inbox gets over flooded with request for your cube, I might > request that you give Mr. Bill first chance at your cube if he is > interested. > > Thank you, > > Jerry > > > > On 03/29/14 11:02 AM, Gary Sparkes wrote: > >> More of the great purge ... >> >> NeXTcube, 25mhz 68040 - one ram bank not filled. >> >> Needs a paint job (dinged and scratched up but not case damage). >> >> It is missing 1 foot on the bottom. >> >> $600 without cables, $700 with cables, monitor, and kb/mouse. Has 1.2GB >> full height seagate drive with NS3.3 and dev tools loaded. >> >> Mono slabs - various configurations - $75 >> >> Color slab - $150, $200 with y cable and soundbox. >> >> Y cable and soundbox by themselves - $75 (I only have one to spare so >> prefer it go with a color slab). >> >> NeXT branded power cords $20/ea ( I think i have 3 ) >> >> NeXT laser printers - make offers. I have like 10 ...... >> >> NeXTcube backplane - $100 >> >> I have 2 larger color monitors and 1 19"er, these are in bel air MD ... >> offers. >> >> 1 extra frog monitor. offers. >> >> Also some Sun lunchboxes - $70/ea (A variety of classics, LXs, and IPXs) >> RS6K B50 - $50 >> >> (no prices include shipping) >> >> >> As with my last ad, mokuba at gmail.com or 646-649-0977 >> >> As posted on: >> >> http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19210#19210 >> >> -- Gary G. Sparkes Jr. KB3HAG ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 07:18:50 +0200 From: Ola Hughson <f.helyanvy at gmail.com> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: IBM HDD sled anyone? Message-ID: <20140402071850.8e741a18fa13838cb5f47734 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 22:20:27 +0100 Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>, w swoim raporcie o post?pach w nauce magii przyja?ni, pisze: > Also, I see that you are looking for a Powerbook 170. As it happens, I > just listed one on eBay, for 1p. :?) 1. I see, I bidded it, I wonder if I'll win. Propably people will come and win over me. [If only You lived nearby Manchester, I could take it by myself - I'm coming in June]. 2. It's just a pointer. The long list of PowerBooks is not the list of all the models I want; it's a list of *possible* models I could get. (-) Ola Hughson ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 07:20:48 +0200 From: Ola Hughson <f.helyanvy at gmail.com> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: IBM HDD sled anyone? Message-ID: <20140402072048.520d387708cfb49a855af907 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 22:19:43 +0100 Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>, w swoim raporcie o post?pach w nauce magii przyja?ni, pisze: > Any idea what it looks like? I have 1 or 2 lying around, mostly on old > SCSI drives... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14556313/SAM_1224.JPG -> That's the connector. (-) Ola Hughson ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:18:19 +0200 From: supervinx <supervinx at libero.it> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: *FREE* TK-50 cartridges Message-ID: <1396419499.2323.1.camel at SVX-NOTEBOOK> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Il giorno mer, 02/04/2014 alle 00.08 +0100, Liam Proven ha scritto: > On 1 April 2014 23:46, supervinx <supervinx at libero.it> wrote: > > Relist them on ebay and open the fox-chase :D > > That is a /very/ tempting idea, it must be said! > > I was serious, since whatever you'll do, nobody will be satisfied! So the use of a third-party decision method could be very helpful... ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 08:19:43 +0200 From: supervinx <supervinx at libero.it> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California Message-ID: <1396419583.2323.3.camel at SVX-NOTEBOOK> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > I wasn't going to read this, then I did. Then I wished I hadn't. Wrong side > of the Pond :/ > Don't tell me... Everyday I read about fair priced unreachable stuff, while nearby I see stellar priced junk :( ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 02:36:18 -0400 From: John Wilson <wilson at dbit.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Group buy for PDP-8/e/a/f/m 32K RAM kit ends Monday Message-ID: <20140402063617.GA2059 at dbit.dbit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 02:19:51PM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > - High quality board with gold fingers, plated holes, silk screen >and solder-mask. Dumb question: is the kit Pb-free? I just want to know which tools to use on it (I don't want to mess up my RoHS iron's mojo, or needlessly taint the kit, even if going RoHS on Omnibus is kind of a hollow gesture given how lead-laden the rest of the machine is). Thanks! John Wilson Monson, MA ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 02:44:00 -0400 From: "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California Message-ID: <533BB1B0.4060009 at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 4/1/2014 8:02 PM, Adrian Graham wrote: > On 02/04/2014 00:41, "Seth Morabito" <lists at loomcom.com> wrote: > >> Through a random eBay purchase, I found a nice little collection of >> stuff in San Jose, CA near 880/101. The owner's name is Tom Thinh, >> >> - MicroVAX I or II in a BA-123 chassis (couldn't see the badge). >> >> - VT100 terminal. >> >> I wasn't going to read this, then I did. Then I wished I hadn't. Wrong side >> of the Pond :/ >> That MV whatever in the BA-123 would be nice along with the VT100, but merely the wrong side of the continent here. Still too far. John H. Reinhardt ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 09:01:58 +0200 From: SPC <spedraja at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Vintage systems available in San Jose, California Message-ID: <CACytpF_Vx3P4ceM9fBy6WrTkg1eCFkG4OdW_yshQjMoezMcPsA at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Another AT&T 3b2 and/or UnixPC would be fine for me, mostly for spares. -- Gracias | Regards Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Gr??e - Salutations -- *Sergio Pedraja* twitter: @sergio_pedraja skype: Sergio Pedraja http://plus.google.com/u/0/101292256663392735405 http://www.linkedin.com/in/sergiopedraja http://www.quora.com/Sergio-Pedraja ----- No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que est? vi?ndolo todo 2014-04-02 1:41 GMT+02:00 Seth Morabito <lists at loomcom.com>: > Through a random eBay purchase, I found a nice little collection of > stuff in San Jose, CA near 880/101. The owner's name is Tom Thinh, > and he's got a 10'x20' (-ish) unit packed with stuff he's trying to > sell. He says he's been collecting the stuff for years. He seems > friendly and reasonable to haggle with as a businessman. I asked him > if it would be OK to pass along his information to the list, he was > happy for me to do so. > > While I was there picking up an AT&T Unix PC, I saw the following: > > - Another AT&T Unix PC. > - Some AT&T 3B2's. > - A stack of pizza-box VAXen of various types. > - MicroVAX I or II in a BA-123 chassis (couldn't see the badge). > - A Symbolics 3610 [NB: I saw a keyboard, but didn't see the Symbolics > console anywhere, but he says he thinks he has it in there... > somewhere] > - A BeBox. > - A small army of NeXTstation - both color and mono, > lots of monitors and keyboards and sound boxes. Also > a couple of printers in original boxes. > - Amigas (at least one 2000 and a 4000 with video toaster). > - VT100 terminal. > - Several Data General 9-track tapes (what looked like > an A/OS distribution? DG is not my strong suit). > > Lots more. That's just what I remember. There were also random PC > things and parts and manuals and so forth. > > Anyway, if you're interested, you can contact Tom directly (not me!), > voice or text, at 1-408-874-6471 > > -Seth > ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 00:19:34 -0700 (PDT) From: David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: FREE: TLV320AIC3106 audio codec and Schmartboard Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1404020012190.29632 at sleipnir.cs.csubak.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII While trying to wrap my head around soldering QFN chips, I managed to mangle a Schmartboard[1] and a Texas Instruments TLV320AIC3106[2]. My problem is that I impatiently omitted flux, which I don't currently have. The board and chip are crusted with solder in several wrong places. I would like to offer the chip and Schmartboard to anyone who thinks they can resurrect and use it. Cost is nothing -- not even postage. I have some international first class stamps lying around that won't otherwise get used. So, if you're gung-ho about soldering tiny things like this, please take these off my hands and out of my mind. I'll order some flux and more supplies and do this right with fresh materials. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G1IfYguQLQ [2] The TLV320AIC3106 is an audio codec chip often found in USB sound interfaces. See http://www.ti.com/product/tlv320aic3106 -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 10:42:15 -0600 From: Roe Peterson <roe at liveblockauctions.com> To: <cctech at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Pdp11 2.11bsd floppy direct access Message-ID: <533AEC67.7060900 at liveblockauctions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed On 03/30/2014 10:05 AM, Glen Slick wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Peterson, Roe (LAI) > <roe at liveblockauctions.com> wrote: >> I'm trying to figure out how to access an rx33 floppy disk on a pdp11/83 without going through the disklabel process. >> >> It would be nice if I could write a tar archive to a floppy with my Linux system, and extract it on the 11/83. Unfortunately, since the rx33 looks like any other MSCP disk to unix, it doesn't seem to want to access the floppy unless a disklabel (and file system) is present. >> >> I'm sure there must be some way to get actual raw access to the floppy drive under 2.11bsd, but I can't seem to figure it out, and I've spent some time looking through the ra device driver source. Frustration levels are high -:) >> >> Anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Thanks in advance. > Does it work if you use the raw device /dev/rra1a instead of > /dev/ra1a, assuming ra0 is the boot device and ra1 is the rx33? In this case, it's /dev/rra8a. Here's what happens with a freshly formatted floppy: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rra8a bs=512 write error: read only file system 2+0 blocks in 2+0 blocks out # > End of cctalk Digest, Vol 128, Issue 3 **************************************

10 years

HP 9820A on eBay.

by hp-fix＠xs4all.nl

Item 371031181418 plugging of cause;)

10 years

IBM 6-ring Field Engineering binders

by BHuntsman＠mail2.cu-portland.edu

Anyone know where I could find some of those really old IBM Field Engineering Handbook 6-ring binders, circa System/360 era? Many thanks! -Ben

10 years

More kit for sale: PC 40t DD FDD, Apple Powerbook 170

by lproven＠gmail.com

COPAL 5.25" 40-track DD (360kB) floppy drive http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271442092962 Apple Powerbook 170 (working) with maxed-out RAM, PSU & carry case http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271442171161 Apologies for the spam, but I've seen people looking for 360kB drives (sorry, Fred) before and I thought the Powerbook might be of interest here too... -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884

10 years

WTD - 40-track (360K) 5.25in floppy drive

by classiccmp＠philpem.me.uk

Hi guys, I'm trying to get my hands on a 5.25in double-sided 40 tracks per side "360K" floppy drive with the Shugart or IBM PC 34-pin connector (either edge connector or pin header is fine). Does anyone have a spare they'd like to part with? Slight preference for Teac or Mitsubishi, but anything will do at this point. I've checked Ebay, there are tons in the US (complete with "seller does not ship internationally, don't even ask"), but the only ones I've seen >from UK sellers are parts scalpers wanting stupid money for them (?149 "sold untested with no guarantee"? really?). A BBC Micro 40-track drive would also be fine -- as long as it's native 40-track, not 40/80 track switchable or double-stepping (an 80-track drive mated to a PCB which double-steps the head). Cumana, Viglen and a few other companies made these, they were extremely common a few years ago. I'm on the verge of getting DiscFerret write support working (at least for UNIX PC disks) but the sodding thing won't read anything my 80-track drives have written! I'd rather not borrow the 3B1's drive - the DiscFerret is experimental and a benchtop lashup is hardly an ideal scenario. Thanks, -- Phil. classiccmp at philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/

10 years

Storage Shelf Life and Reforming Aluminum Electrolytic Fixed Capacitors

by marvin＠west.net

It has been a while since I've seen this publication mentioned, so some of the new people might find this interesting to read: http://www.dscc.dla.mil/Downloads/MilSpec/Docs/MIL-HDBK-1131/hb1131.pdf It is a DOD publication for storage shelf life and reforming procedures for Aluminum Electrolytic Fixed Capacitors.

10 years

Tape drive wanted

by azd30＠telus.net

I'm looking for a reaonably priced tape drive in a Sun 411 enclosure w/ the scsi-2 cable and the terminator. Prefer one of the older style Archive150/250's , but could do with a an 8mm. As long as it can '>b st()' on an old '020 it will work... Bonus if you threw in a cartridge or two 8-). I 'd like to create a SunOS 4.1.1 boot tape. I could do a CDROM, but somehow it seems more 'authentic' to install it from tape!!! If anyone can help me out shoot me an e-mail off list. It would be shipped in the lower 48, WA state... cheers -- alex

10 years

pre-ebay/pre-skip tat

by abuse＠cabal.org.uk

Hi, I posted the message below to a UK-based mailing list of hardware-fondlers, but didn't get any bites. Is there really *nobody* in the London area that fancies collcting a free fixer-upper x64 Sun box? --- I'm moving home shortly and don't have any short-term use for some of my Fine Legacy Equipment: 1) A Sun Ultra 20 M2. This is a dual-core ~2GHz Opteron, 4GB ECC RAM and some good video cards. A rather nice piece of kit when it was made in 2006, but rather behind the curve now. Worse, a recent attempt to install a SCSI card into it to read some old disks caused the thing to not want to POST. It did this before and started working again after a faff with the CMOS batter, but that didn't work and I didn't care to spend the time debugging it. Realistically, this is a source of a novelty case, PSU and spud brackets for a Sun-fancier who fancies putting a decent x86 box inside. It's a standard ATX case, so no epic case modding is required. This is arguably the pre-skip tat. Best offer wins, even if that is "I'll come to Mitcham and not charge you for dragging it away". 2) A whitebox 3U Opteron server. Two Opteron CPUs, RAM, hardware SATA RAID controller, and 10 hotswap drive bays. ISTR it has an optical drive, but I'd have to go and check. This *does* work (or at least did when I last tested it) but the power consumption is horrific. I bought this for the case/PSU, but never got round to transferring my home fileserver's guts into it. Now I have exactly 10 disks, there's no room for expansion so it's of limited use to me now. (I intend to go and buy a much larger case, probably the X-Case RM 424s[0] or one of its siblings.) The motherboard is again clearly junk, but the case and other bits still have value, so this is the pre-eBay tat which I estimate is worth around ?120. I'll offer a deep discount on this price to anybody who can again just collect it and not make me have to figure out how to ship the damn thing. [0] http://www.xcase.co.uk/rackmount-cases/4u-rackmount-server-cases/x-case-rm-…

10 years

Can anyone ID these old cabinets?

by jules.richardson99＠gmail.com

Morning all, Local junk shoppe owner asked me if I knew what these cabinets were, because he thought they might be computer-related, and although I have my doubts I said I'd ask here: http://www.patooie.com/temp/cabs.jpg The top one is about 18" wide and 18" deep, while the bottom one is more like 20" wide and 18" deep (all guesstimates with mk1 eyeball). The slots on both are about 2" high. Both have arms internally which are designed to slide the contents out partway when the doors are opened, and the arms on the green one are curved, suggesting that they held something cylindrical. Somehow they 'feel' too old to be computer-related to me - if I had to guess, I'd say they were maybe for canisters containing movie reels, but I suppose it's possible that they're far newer than I think and might be for some '60s or '70s disk packs / tapes / whatever... cheers Jules

10 years

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