test-drb December 2012

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by hendrikvandewerken＠gmail.com

On 28 Dec 2012 20:02:21 Chuck wrote: >Maybe I've got the name wrong--perhaps it was called the EDB--it was a >display enhancement board added to the M24 and attached to the standard >controller that provided 16 colors per pixel (IIRC) in 640x400 hi-res mode. I see, I think you mean the EGC (Enhanced Graphic Color board). I never had an EGC board but I have the user guide of it. The board adds three bit planes to the one of the Indigeneous Card (IND), so it provides 16 color capability to the higher screen resolutions and it adds the flexibility of a color/shades of grey Look-Up Table (LUT) The video bit planes are laid out as folows: A0000h-A7FFFh Bit plane 0 (EGC) A8000h-AFFFFh Bit plane 1 (EGC) B0000h-B7FFFh Bit plane 2 (EGC) B8000h-BFFFFh Bit plane 3 (IND) The MDA card has the following memory layout: 4k of RAM at address 0B0000h for its display buffer. This address is not completely decoded; the entire 32k from 0B0000h to 0B7FFFh is filled with repeats of this 4k area. I/O addresses 03B0h-03BFh. As you see the memory of Bit Plane 1 overlays that of the MDA card completely. So I think it will cause serious problems. Are you familiar with the card? Do you have one? Greetings, Hendrik

11 years, 4 months

need a keyboard for a Tektronix Prism 3002x anaylyzer

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

the 'x' denotes subsets, such as 3002P, etc.

11 years, 4 months

need a keyboard for a Tektronix TC-2000

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

identifiable by the dial on the right side (jog dial?).

11 years, 4 months

Question about DEC PMI Processors & Gear Acquisition

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On 2012-12-30 19:00, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove<captainkirk359 at gmail.com> wrote: > On 29 December 2012 21:08, Toby Thain<toby at telegraphics.com.au> wrote: >> >Does that follow? PMI is a non-bus (private!) ribbon cable jumper from CPU >> >to RAM. >> > > You're mistaking uVAX memory with PDP-11 memory. uVAXen have the > ribbon cables, and the CD slot. On the PDP-11 processors and RAM (and > QBUS to UNIBUS adapter -- KTJ11, I think it is called -- in the 84 and > 94) the PMI is all on only the CD slots of the board. Correct, PMI memory on PDP-11 machines is just communicating on the CD slots. No ribbon cables. However, I'd like to point out that the 11/83 also can use PMI memory. The thing to understand is that for the memory to be connected on the PMI, it needs to set *before* the CPU on the Qbus, and be PMI capable. The same memory placed *after* the CPU means it acts as normal Qbus memory. Some difference in performance. When sitting in the 11/84, the memory sits after the CPU, but all the first four slots are PMI slots in that box, always. Actually, PMI is also not only on the CD slots. A few signals in the AB slots are working differently than in a Qbus as well. And to point out one last, obvious thing, the PMI on the VAX is a bus, even through it's on a ribbon cable. Why would that make it not a bus? Johnny

11 years, 4 months

Tektronix TC-2000 on eBay

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

it's either dead broke or suffering from oxidation/microbial issues. Not worth 120$ to me, but if you're interested perhaps you can talk them down (considerably). Mine was delivered working, but after I pulled it out of storage it exhibited the same behavior as that. Fairly rare, but they turn up.

11 years, 4 months

AT&T 6300 mono monitor

by jce＠seasip.demon.co.uk

Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> > > Maybe I've got the name wrong--perhaps it was called the EDB--it was a display enhancement board added to the M24 and attached to the standard controller that provided 16 colors per pixel (IIRC) in 640x400 hi-res mode. > > --Chuck > > C: I would love details on that board if anyone has them. Where's Jim Leonard? There's a GEM driver in three incarnations (ATTDEBP6.SYS for GEM 2.1 SDDEB7.SYS for GEM 2.2 SDDEB8.EGA for GEM 3.0) that supports the Display Enhancement Board. The FreeGEM driver source at <http://www.seasip.info/Gem/drivers3.html> includes the latest source for this driver; it's in the files whose names begin DEB. -- John Elliott

11 years, 4 months

An interesting article on text-book vrs real-world programming

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net> To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:45 AM Subject: RE: An interesting article on text-book vrs real-world programming > Dave wrote: > > Where things really count (embedded, real-time systems) > those practices are still maintained. Although I will > say that recent CS grads with their "extreme programming" > and all of that happy horse sh*t are harder to bring on > board these days. Consequently, we're hiring fewer and > fewer "young" programmers these days... let them get > their lumps on someone else's dime, we'll take the older > more experienced guys that have learned why good practices > are important. > > Bill S. > Yup, everyone is waiting for somebody else to train them, good luck with that.

11 years, 4 months

Setting up a DMC11 on TOPS-10

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

Some work is being done to get a DMC11 emulation into the SIMH PDP10 emulator. I would like to get DECnet running on TOPS-10 over the DMC11, but I have absolutely no idea where to begin, I only ever used TOPS-20 and never with DECnet and never did any admin things on it anyway. Can anyone offer any pointers on how to get started? Before anyone asks, I understand that TOPS-10 uses the DMR11, but this is so similar to the DMC11 that it may not notice the difference or I can fix the emulation for the minor differences. Thanks Rob

11 years, 4 months

An interesting article on text-book vrs real-world programming

by legalize＠xmission.com

In article <03ba01cde440$cf014820$6d03d860$@sudbrink at verizon.net>, "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net> writes: > Dave wrote: > > It seems things have gone horrible, 50 years ago the code > > where I worked was generally good. When I worked on a > > professional development team we had coding standards that > > were adhered to, did code walk throughs, and had proper > > documentation. These days it seems we don't have time for > > the checks and balances that make code maintainable and > > reliable. > > Where things really count (embedded, real-time systems) > those practices are still maintained. Although I will > say that recent CS grads with their "extreme programming" > and all of that happy horse sh*t are harder to bring on > board these days. If you think "extreme programming" is horse shit, then you don't understand what "extreme programming" is all about. Go read Kent Beck's book. Go read The Agile Manifesto. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

11 years, 4 months

FS: A ton of mac stuff- CHEAP

by slandon110＠gmail.com

Clearing out more stuff I got a nice Mac SE/30 Working with keyboard and mouse Will come with 64MB RAM to install and a 2GB 50pin SCSI Drive $125 shipped A Mac IIci 24MB RAM 1GB HDD emachines 16bit VGA Nubus card Ethernet Card Dayna Turbo040 40mhz 040 upgrade card. and a 40mhz Radius Rocket Card installed $200 shipped or best. Also has a matching Mac monitor to go with it if you need it. Keyboard and mouse included as well. The radius rocket is pretty hard to find, lets you run another instance of the mac os on the card Still got lots of Apple IIGS RGB Monitors as well $50 shipped anywhere in the USA Along with Apple Monitor //s For 50 shipped anywhere in the USA Some of the cheap machines Power Mac 8100 in nice shape at least a 1GB HDD in it and 32MB RAM. Comes with G3 upgrade card $75 shipped PowerMac 9600/300, The last six PCI slot mac, really nice, 64MB RAM 4GB HDD $120 shipped Got the following machines for 50 bucks each shipped Quadra 610 8MB RAM/250MB HDD Centris 650 8MB RAM/500MB HDD Performa 600 8MB RAM/250MB HDD Mac IIcx 8mb ram/80MB HDD Power Mac 7100s, all have at least 16MB RAM in them and 500-1GB HDDs Power Mac 6100s all have at least 8MB RAM in them and 250MB-1GB HDDs, includes the Performa 6115 and whatnot. Got multiples of each. Steve

11 years, 4 months

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test-drb December 2012