Subject: Re: Atari 800xl Super Video 2.1 mod (and other video mods)
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On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:21 PM, David Betz wrote:
> I recently acquired an Atari 800xl and would like to apply the Super
> Video 2.1 mod to get better video but have been unable to locate the
> description of how to do it anywhere on the web. I've done a google
> search and found many links to it but they all led to dead ends. Can
> someone point me to the article describing this mod?
>Okay, I finally managed to find the Super Video 2.1 instructions but
>now find that they seem to be in addition to the Super Video 2.0 mods
>rather than a newer version of them. I also find that some people
>recommend against making them but instead suggest some simpler mods to
>improve the 800xl video. Has anyone here had any experience with
>trying to improve the video output of the 800xl? What do you
>recommend? I'd like to at least enable the S-video output.
David,
I've done the Super Video 2.0 & 2.1 mods about 5 times now and it always works perfectly. My brother has a 52" Samsung LCD and the picture is unbelievable! The S-video output is perfect. We had an Atari party and everyone wanted to know why the picture was so flawless. I have no experience with the other mods, but I highly recommend the 2.0 & 2.1 mods. Here's a link.
http://www.wolfpup.net/atarimods/supervid.html
Good luck and have fun.
Ralph
Rumor has it that William Donzelli may have mentioned these words:
> > DYSEAC was running in 1954. It was mounted in an Army truck. Not quite a
> > Osborne, but it was the first time a modern, digital computer was
> > specifically designed for mobility.
>
>Do not be surprised if the crypto guys had something before that. But
>they ain't talking...
Prolly due to security clearances... Despite the fact that dollars to
doughnuts it could prolly be hacked in about 12 seconds flat nowadays,
there's still things I can be jailed for life (or worse... but I doubt it
would come to that ;-) under the charge of treason if I disclosed in
public, AFAIK.
In class where I learned about these items I'm not telling you about, we
weren't allowed to take any form of physical notes - things had to be
committed to memory (mammalian only, not electronic. ;-).
Last time I checked (with military personnel with correct security
clearance) it was still classified, but that was at least a decade ago.
Not to worry - of what I speak is on topic - it was my first taste of
papertape after all... and that's all I'll say. ;-)
Now back to drinking Tequila & looking for the black helicopters on the
horizon...
"Merch"
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_)(_ disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
I recently acquired an Atari 800xl and would like to apply the Super
Video 2.1 mod to get better video but have been unable to locate the
description of how to do it anywhere on the web. I've done a google
search and found many links to it but they all led to dead ends. Can
someone point me to the article describing this mod?
Thanks,
David Betz
Resending this, as it seems to have not made it to the list for whatever
reason. (Sorry if this ends up in people's mailboxes twice...)
Tony Duell wrote:
>>> Then I'd look at all the Unibus signals both with the terminator out
>>> (they will still be terminated by the resistors at at the CPU end --
>>> IIRC on an 11/40 these are on the Unibus jumper between the CPU and
>>> first expansion backplane) and with it fitted. I would guess
>>> something is changing state, let's find out what.
>>>
>> I will start looking at this tonight (assuming I have the time
>> tonight :)). Thanks.
>>
>
> OK, let us know how you get on :-)
>
> -tony
>
Ok, finally stopped being distracted by other shiny objects for long
enough to do some more fiddling with the 11/40.
And of course, instead of hooking up the logic analyzer, I decided to
play around with the Console SLU/LTC board. Because I evidently don't
follow suggestions well.
But this has a good ending, sort of. Maybe.
So the SLU was unresponsive no matter what I did. Tried it at 9600
baud, no go. Dialed it down to 300, no dice. Checked the continuity of
the dip switches, of which there are approximately 500. No problems
there. Checked, and double-checked the wiring on the serial cable I
built. No go. Stole the cable from my 8/e... still no good.
So I moved it out of the 9th slot on the processor backplane and into
the first slot on Unibus backplane. (And put a grant card in the 9th
slot...) And hey, it works. Toggled in a short "echo" program and what
I type on the terminal keyboard is echoed back, at a blistering 300 baud.
So... clearly there's something wrong with the SPC slot on the processor
backplane. A couple more questions:
1) Is the NPG grant on the unibus slot on the processor backplane (slot
9) supposed to be connected to the NPG grants on the Unibus expansion?
That is -- right now if I set my DMM to continuity mode and put one
probe on CA1 on the first slot of the unibus expansion, and the other on
CB1 on the last slot of the unibus expansion, since all NPG grant
jumpers are in place, the DMM shows the circuit as closed. This is as
I'd expect. However, if I move the probe from CA1 on the first slot of
the expansion to CA1 on slot 9 of the processor backplane, the circuit
is then open. I'm guessing this is not correct. (There is currently an
NPG jumper installed on slot 9.)
2) Where is the +15V to the processor backplane supposed to be
connected? (I suspect this may be the reason the SLU won't function in
slot 9...). Right now it's plugged into pin CV1 on slot 9 (if I'm
reading the Unibus pin chart right :)) but the docs I have found say
this should be ACLO_L...
Thanks as always...
Josh
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Okay: I admit it, I am sometimes pig-ignorant about basic hardware
questions. :/
I have a couple of DEC machines which I need to replace a few components
on, and also stock up spares of others. With the transistors and diodes,
however, I often can't find a direct replacement - and don't know how to
figure out what a modern substitute is.
For a 2N3009, for example, I can find basic information and a datasheet
online easily enough - but as for choosing a functional, available
substitute for it, I'm honestly not even sure where to begin.
Is there a basic resource for determining modern equivalents for older
transistors and diodes? Can someone helpfully provide me with a clue
here? :)
Thanks!
-O.-
Is anyone interested in stuff located in the vicinity of Portland,
Oregon? I'm not sure what all it would included. It might even
depend on the persons interests.
The stuff needs to be out of storage by this weekend, a lot has
already been moved into the garage of our new house, and the rest
will hopefully be moved between now and Sunday. Some free, some not
so free. I'm looking to downsize and tighten the focus my collection
since realistically I don't mess with the stuff much any more. Some
items such as spares for my PDP-11's I'm not really interested in
getting rid of. Though for the right price I could be talked out of
most things.
My focus has shifted primarily to DEC PDP-11, VAX, and Alpha as well
as C-64. Though I'm hoping to get an Apple ][ of some sort up and
running as well as a couple others now that I have the space.
Zane
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