test-drb October 2008

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by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

Hi, The original 1998 Catweasel mailing list has been reclaimed and is operational again. If you are interested in Catweasel please join the mailing list. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catweasel Thank you and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

16 years, 1 month

Somewhat OT: Google Indexing OCR'd PDFs

by josefcub＠gmail.com

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/picture-of-thousand-words.html Could this indeed be useful, especially when sites like Bitsavers are indexed? Josef -- "I laugh because I dare not cry. This is a crazy world and the only way to enjoy it is to treat it as a joke." -- Hilda "Sharpie" Burroughs, "The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein

16 years, 1 month

Old Heath Software - New In Box - Query

by n6ki＠sbcglobal.net

I have come acquired a Heathkit Box of an RTTY Software program, unopened and I do not want to open the box and ruin it's value to collectors The only number on the box are there SF-9006 00108 In the estate sale there was a unbuilt kit with an 8 inch disk drive that a ham friend of mine bought The box size is about 12" X 12" X 3" thick I expect it is full of Floppy disks and a manual or instruction sheet I expect there may be 8 inch floppies in it as if they were 5 inch, why would teh box be so big ??? Any info on contents and value appreciated Thanks 73, Dennis N6KI

16 years, 1 month

any Apollo fans out yonder?

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

I know I posted this before. But there's been so little feedback...

16 years, 1 month

anyone utilizing early Macs to access the internet?

by jvdg＠sparcpark.net

2008/10/31 Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com>: > Can any pre-Mac OS X system run a browser that supports modern websites? Not really. > This was the problem that caused my Mom to upgrade a couple years ago. > Besides now that they've been selling Intel-based Mac's for a few years, > doesn't the G5 2x2 I'm using count as an "early" Mac? :-) Considering "the Mac" as a family of computer systems celebrates its twenty-fifth anniversary next year, and the PowerMac G5, which was cancelled merely three years ago, certainly doesn't qualify as an "early Mac". IMHO, of course. :-P .tsooJ

16 years, 1 month

Looking for a ST419

by dm561＠torfree.net

-----------Original Message: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:48:21 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a ST419 On 30 Oct 2008 at 10:45, Chris Elmquist wrote: > I realize that the operating system had individual sector write-ability > but was that accomplished by read-modify-write of that individual sector > in a controller buffer and then the entire track rewritten? or did the > controller sync to the beginning of the specific sector and write it > in place? Just that way--like a floppy--there are address marks and sector headers that mark the beginning of each sector. At least that's the way most controllers work. Of course, since the data stream from an ST412 interface is just a raw bunch of pulses, one could record anything on a track that one wanted, within the electrical limits of the drive. Cheers, Chuck ----------------Reply: The Cromemco STDC ST506-type controllers are an example of a controller that *did* format/read/write entire 10K tracks (no physical sectors), with a four-track cache. m

16 years, 1 month

Drivetec Floppy Drives

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

-- "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote: On 30 Oct 2008 at 7:44, Jules Richardson wrote: >Reminds me of the old Drivetec floppies--formatted with an embedded >servo, so you didn't dare pick up used ones--they could be erased or >have errors that would render them useless. I've still got some of >the old Drivetec/Kodak drives and some media, but I'm not aware of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Whoa, hold the phone here. Okay, I'm trying to solve a twenty-year- old mystery. So, you say the media for these drives were made by Kodak? Did they, per chance, have *triangular* notches in place of the traditional rectangular ones? I'm asking, because in 1985 or '86 I was at an electronics scrap yard in L.A., and saw a *very* large heap of these kinda strange looking floppy drives. I don't remember too much about them, but I just remember they looked *weird*. The media was made by Kodak (something I had never seen before), and the notch on the edge of the floppy disk was *triangular*. I figured it was some special media for bio-medical equipment, or for some bizarre photographic process, or something. Anyways, I never saw drives (or floppies) like that ever again, and always wondered about it. They looked brand-new, and the whole incident sticks out in my mind because I remember the owner was mad as hell-- apparently he spent a small fortune on these things, but nobody wanted them because they weren't 'standard'. _____________________________________________________________ Live the good life! Click now for great retirement planning assistance! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3mK7BUhrxexcthLC9q3BBc6Go…

16 years, 1 month

FrameMaker for SunOS

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I have ten (yes ten) boxes of FrameMaker v5 for SunOS. Includes manuals, CDROM, I think even license keys. I only opened one box, but I assume they're all the same. If anyone wants all of them, they are free for the cost of shipping, probably $40 or so. Let me know soon or they hit the trash. I'm not really interested in breaking them up. Contact me off-list if interested. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL

16 years, 1 month

Help with Sun video

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

I'm hoping someone can shed light on this. For the past week, I've been battling to get my Sun Ultra-60 video switchable through a Belkin 8-port KVM switch. The monitor is a Samsung 214T 20" LCD. - Connect monitor directly to workstation with a 13W3 Sync-On-Green adapter (no passthrough of sync signals): Works fine. - Connect monitor directly to workstation with a 13W3 adapter that brings out H+V sync: Works fine. - Connect either of the above to a port on the KVM switch: Switch does not recognize that anything is connected and refuses to pull in the relay (I can hear an audible click from any channel with recognized video). The status LED on the KVM keeps flashing to say "no one there!". Obviously no video. - Purchase Belkin Sun adapter box from eBay and connect it between the U60 and the KVM: KVM recognizes that video is there and pulls in the relay. The monitor _seems_ to believe that something is there, as the blinking green "nothing attached to me" LED goes solid on. However, nothing ever appears on the screen. I tried all DIP switch settings on the adapter (connected to Sun monitor sense lines). - In desperation, connect monitor directly to HD15 port on the Belkin adapter: Same thing. Solid green LED, no display. The same machine worked perfectly through an older 4-port Belkin unit (that I've outgrown, thus the 8-port). What on earth am I missing here? I don't even see a common denominator, but am hoping that someone more familiar with the details of Sun video can give me a nudge in the right direction. On the subject of the Belkin KVM: Is it possible that their "detection" is simply looking for a grounded pin or a pair of pins looped back by virtue of the computer being connected? Maybe expecting a voltage? If I could trick it into activating the port, I could just feed through from the 13W3 adapter and be done with it. Naturally Belkin's site has no information at this low level of detail... Steve --

16 years, 1 month

Osborne and unusual TI Terminal in Weirdstuff Bid Sale...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I dropped by Weirdstuff today and found a clean Osborne and a dusty (but unusual) TI Terminal in their Bid Sale. You can see pictures of them via: ftp://bickleywest.com/ws/ or ftp bickleywest.com User: anonymous Password: your email address cd ws Here's the info on the WS bid sale: http://www.weirdstuff.com/sunnyvale/html/bid_sale.htm Note that you can FAX you bids to WS. The webpage doesn't say it - but they will ship items won in the bid sale. I have no monetary interest in the auction or sale of these items. I am a "regular" bidder at WS - but will not be bidding on either of these items (otherwise I wouldn't be posting them to the list, would I ;-) Cheers, Lyle -- Lyle Bickley Bickley Consulting West Inc. Mountain View, CA 94040 http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

16 years, 1 month

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