test-drb February 2007

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Instrument Displays MDPM-3 nixie DPM (was Re: Service Manual/Schematics for an IBM 7861-015 modem?)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On 2/12/07, Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/11/07, Brent Hilpert <hilpert at cs.ubc.ca> wrote: > > Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > Had a good day at the Mansfield Hamfest today. I now have [a]... > > > nixie-tube panel DVM... > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > If that is a Weston 1294-series DVM (4.5 digits, TTL, fits standard 4"*1.75" > > industrial instr. panel), I can supply the schematic. > > It _is_ 4.5 digits... and does fit a standard panel opening, but > it's an MDPM-3 by Instrument Displays, Inc., of Haverhill, Massachusetts. OK... I've taken it apart to have a look... the IC dates are late 1968 - there are a few DIPs and a number of 8-pin epoxy-covered button-shaped ICs all over the innards. The DPM came with a 36-pin AMP connector with 4 wires loaded, two for power and two for input voltage. The power wires go right into a transformer at the back of the unit, leading me to suspect that it takes 110VAC, but perhaps it takes 24VAC. I have not yet powered it up - does anyone have any idea what it would take to fire it up? The nixie tubes, for those who track such things, are 3 Burroughs B-5750 7/8"(?) nixies, with a block next to them for "1", "+", and "-" (3 individual neons). The legend on the front proclaims it to be a "mini-diget dpm". I've never fiddled with a pre-LED DPM, so if anyone knows what voltage it's expecting, I can fire it up to see if it works or is merely a source of nixies. Thanks, -ethan

17 years, 10 months

WTD: Fuse PROM programming algorithms

by dm561＠torfree.net

---------Original Message: Message: 11 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:31:14 +0000 From: Philip Pemberton <classiccmp at philpem.me.uk> Subject: Re: WTD: Fuse PROM programming algorithms <snip> TI are nice enough to put their programming algorithms online, I've found a textual description of the NatSemi algorithm (though it would be nice to have the timing diagrams, if any), and I tracked down an old rev of the 82S129 datasheet that includes some info on the Signetics Generic I algorithm. Those three would be enough to get by on for now, but it would be nice to have read and write support for e.g. the Intersil and Monolithic Memories chips. As dictated by Sod's Law, I've got the Intersil linear databooks, but not the logic/PROM/whatever databook. As far as MMI goes, I can't even find a copy of the relevant databook for sale, hence why I asked for scans or photocopies (I'm not fussy about which, and I'm willing to pay for the copying and shipping/postage). Thanks. -- Phil -----------Reply: If you don't find 'em elsewhere, I've got Harris ('78), Intel ('76), Signetics ('78) and National ('77) databooks in front of me. Don't know about Intersil; was looking in the MMI book a while back, but now I can't remember where I put it down at the time (probably the same place as the cordless phone ;). mike

17 years, 10 months

Thank you, list!

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

--- der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote: > > [...] be advised that acetone will also (in my > experience) turn some > > plastics into grainy mush, [...] > > Well, I did first try applying acetone to a > noncritical area of the > same part, to see what it would do. > Yes, acetone also disolves polystyrene. Some uni/college student visited the lab where I work (I'm a technician, not a chemist, and my chemical knowledge is limited other than what I have learnt at work over the last 8 years) a few years ago and decided to clean the runners on the plastic slidey doors (do they have a proper name?) on the side of one of the balances. Naturally, as someone else mentioned, the acetone turned the plastic into mush and the door become tough to open, often sticking, instead of being smooth and easy. Generally, we use acetone to clean marker pen off of glass equipment (eg. volumetric flasks) and for cleaning oil/grease out of the metal cups (we test for fat/oil/grease content in the waste water from factories that send there waste into our* sewers) Getting it back on topic... is there an easy was to determine which computers/peripherals can be cleaned safely with acetone, or similar substances? Regards, Andrew D. Burton aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk * I work for a well known UK water company, mainly b ased in East Anglia.

17 years, 10 months

pen plotters?

by Billy.Pettit＠wdc.com

M H Stein wrote: Do have a few manuals on other plotters. Recently found one on a Houston Instruments plotter. It'll go to Al the next time we get together. Billy ==Mike's Reply: Which Houston plotter? 595/695 ? mike -------------------- Don't know. It is up in Pleasanton in a big pile of stuff for Al, next time I see him. I'm going up on the 24th, so I'll try to have a look then. I just buy stuff like this manual when I come across them at flea markets, etc. Give them to Al for his archives. Billy

17 years, 10 months

HP minicarts found

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> I know Al and a few other people have setups for digitizing the analog > outputs of the read heads for 7-track and 9-track magtapes, but has > anyone concocted a similar beast for the DC100 or QIC tapes? > > Is it even possible? Yes, it is probably what I'm going to have to use to recover the Tektronix 4051 tapes that I got from Jim Willing. It shouldn't be to difficult to do something similar with heads that don't move (HP, Apple Tape Backup, etc). Fiddling with the firmware for QIC drives with serpentine recording is more difficult

17 years, 10 months

hp tape inventory

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Ok, here's the list of all my paper tapes..... UTILITY 352 REV B TRACE/MEMORY MODIFY 00-090-10014 TEST COMMUNICATION INV2 INVOICING ONTARIO SALES TAX UTILITY TRACK NOV 18TH 1974 LIST UTIL UTILITY 576 UTILITY 352 REV B DEC 11/74 UTILITY 352 REV B UTIL 352 DVR30 DVR23 DVR00 RTE MARK SENSE DRVR (DVR15) 12602B KIT BINARY 20821-60001 REV B D26XX DVR01 DISCM UNCONFIG BOOT 7920 DSGEN 7920 EXEC MODULES DOS III EXEC MODULES BINARY 24307-60003 REV A 16K SIO SYSTEM DUMP ABS BINARY 20335-60001 REV B 16K SIO TAPE READER DRIVER ABS BINARY 20319-60001 REV A 8K SIO MARK SENSE CARD READER DRIVER BINARY 20521-60001 REV C 4K SIO MARK SENSE CARD READER DRIVER BINARY 20520-60001 REV C 12K SIO HP7970 MAG TAPE DRIVER BINARY 24312-60001 REV A 8K SIO HP7970 MAG TAPE DRIVER BINARY 13021-60001 REV B 8K SIO HP2610A/2614A LINE PRINTER DRIVER BINARY 24269-60001 REV A 12K SIO 2610/2614 PRINTER DRIVER BINARY 24303-60001 REV A DOS III EFMP S/W VERSION (NON-EAU) $EX30 24309-60001 REV A EFMP DOS III EFMP H/W VERSION (EAU) $EX30 24309-60002 REV A DOS III EFMP UTIL AND SUBROUTINES 24309-60003 REV A EXTENDED ASSEMBLER FLOATING POINT BINARY 24246-60001 REV A RTE/DOS RELOCATABLE LIBRARY (NON-EAU) BINARY 24150-60001 REV D RTE/DOS RELOCATABLE LIBRARY FLOATING POINT BINARY 24248-60001 REV B RTE/DOS RELOCATABLE LIBRARY (EAU) BINARY 24151-60001 REV D DOS-M ASSEMBLER MAIN CONTROL BINARY 24158-60001 REV B !DSKUP(1805) 92060-16044 DVR05 D2892 DVR02 DVR67 DVR00 DVR15 DVR73 & DVR74 DVR71 & DVR72 DVR70 16K SIO HP2610A/2614 LINE PRINTER DRIVER BINARY 24270-60001 REV A 16K SIO MARK SENSE CARD READER DRIVER BINARY 20522-60001 REV C 16K SIO HP7970 MT DRIVER BINARY 13022-60001 REV B FF4.N(1726) 24998-16002 FLIB.N(1723) 24998-16003 RTE/DOS FORTRAN IV (10K COMPILER AREA) BINARY 1 OF 2 24177-60001 REV B DOS CROSS REFERENCE ROUTINE BINARY 24223-60001 REV B 24377-16001 1446 DOS DVR73 12920A/B MULTIPLEXOR DVR73 ASYNC MUX PHYSICAL DVR 5/15/74 DOS III RELOCATING LOADER BINARY 24308-60001 REV A DVR31 7920 XREF RLIB.N (1726) 24998-16001 DOS-M ASSEMBLER SEGMENT D BINARY 24159-60002 REV B DOS-M SEGMENT 1 BINARY 24158-60003 REV B DOS-M SEGMENT 2 BINARY 24158-60004 REV B DOS-M SEGMENT 3 BINARY 24158-60005 REV B DOS-M SEGMENT 4 BINARY 24158-60006 REV B DOS-M SEGMENT 5 BINARY 24158-60007 REV B RELOCAT TBG DRVR 24380-18019 D.43 2-1021-001-06 2-1044-006-01 UTIL 352 1-1001-060-00 HP2610/2614 LINE PRINTER DIAGNOSTIC BINARY 24275-60001 REV B 2100 TAPE READER TEST BINARY 24189-60001 REV B 2100 TIME BASE GENERATOR TEST BINARY 24213-60001 REV B 7261 OPTICAL MARK READER DIAGNOSTIC BINARY 72010-60001 REV A RTE/DOS FORTRAN IV LIBRARY BINARY 24152-60001 REV C ASYNC TERM LOGICAL DVR 1 (ATD01) RELO BINARY 24381-16001 REV 1419 RTE/DOS RELOCATABLE LIBRARY FLOATING POINT BINARY 24248-60001 REV B EXTENDED ASSEMBLER EAU BINARY 24032-60001 REV B RTE/DOS ALGOL MAIN CONTROL BINARY 24129-60001 REV C RTE/DOS ALGOL SEGMENT 1 BINARY 24129-60002 REV C SEND(ONLY) INTERFACE (12622) TEST BINARY 20393-60001 REV A BCS TTY DRVR D.00 BINARY 20017-60001 REV C BCS 2610A/2614A LINE PRINTER DRIVER (D.12) BINARY 24273-60001 REV A BCS TAPE READER DRIVER D.01 BINARY 20005-60001 REV B 2100 RECEIVE(ONLY) INTERFACE (12621) TEST BINARY 24220-60001 REV A RECEIVE(ONLY) INTERFACE (12621) TEST BINARY 20538-60001 REV A BCS 2762A/2615A DRIVER (D.26) RELO BINARY 24330-60001 REV A INPUT/OUTPUT CONTROL BINARY 24173-60001 REV A BCS RELOCATABLE LIBRARY FLOATING POINT BINARY 24250-60001 REV B BCS RELOCATABLE LIBRARY (EAU) BINARY 24145-60001 REV B DOS-M STRING ARITH. BINARY 24306-60001 REV A OFFLINE DISK BACKUP STANDALONE BVR05, DVR00 BCS HPRJE SYSGEN 7/9/74 (PARTIAL UNLABLED TAPE) CHERN - DOS-M 4/9/74 BCS TAPE PUNCH DRIVER D.02 BINARY 20006-60001 REV B BCS RELOCATING LOADER BINARY 20018-60001 REV H MEMORY REF. INSTRUCTION TEST BINARY 24209-60001 REV A 2100 SHIFT-ROTATE INSTRUCTION TEST BINARY 24210-60001 REV A ALTER-SKIP INSTRUCTION TEST BINARY 24209-60001 REV A 2100 MEMORY PARITY CHECK TEST BINARY 24198-60001 REV B 2100 LOW MEMORY ADDRESS TEST BINARY 24211-60001 REV A 2100 LOW MEMORY PATTERN TEST BINARY 24193-60001 REV A 2100 HIGH MEMORY PATTERN TEST BINARY 24194-60001 REV A HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY MPON SOURCE 24 24380-18024 REV 1402 DATA BASE MANAGEMENT LIBRARY ROUTINES RELO BINARY 24376-16012 REV 1419 DATA BASE UTILITY PROGRAMS RELO BINARY 02 02 24376-16004 REV 1419 DATA BASE UTILITY PROGRAMS RELO BINARY 01 02 24376-16003 REV 1419 DATA BASE MANAGEMENT ROUTINES RELO BINARY 24376-16010 REV 1419 DATA BASE MANAGEMENT HASHING ROUTINES RELO BINARY 24376-16011 REV 1419 2100 ASYNC MPLXR CONTROL TEST BINARY 24255-60001 REV B 2100 ASYNC CHANNEL MPLXR DIAG BINARY 24252-60001 REV A BCS MARK SENSE DRVR. (D.15) 12602B KIT BINARY 20819-60001 REV C BCS MARK SENSE DRVR. (D.15) 12602B KIT BINARY 20819-60001 REV C HP REMOVE JOB ENTRY SWOP SOURCE 26 24380-18026 REV 1402 SWOPS 9/30/74 GOOD? CNVTI- RELOCATABLE 12/11/74 HPRJ PATCHED 10AM 16 MAY BCS RJE D.50 COMPILED 2/20/74 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY CNVTI SOURCE 20 24380-18020 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY B2ASC SOURCE 21 24380-18021 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY MPOF SOURCE 25 24380-18025 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY CB2EB SOURCE 23 24380-18023 REV 1402 24377-18001 1438 24377-18002 24377-18003 1438 SLC DRIVER RELOCATABLE 24307-16010 (1438) QUERY HELP FILE SOURCE 24376-18001 REV 1419 DEC STR ARIT 16K SIO TELEPRINTER (LP-COMPAT) ABS BINARY 24127-60001 REV A 16K SIO TTY DRVR REV A 16K SIO TTY DRVR 20330-60001B LOADER LOADER ROB PORTER AS2BI RELO 24380-18022 RELOC CNVTI 24380-18020 RELOC B2ASC 24380-18021 RELOC CB2EB 24380-18023 RELOC MPOF 24380-18025 RELOC SWOP 24380-18026 RELOC REMOT 24380-18027 2000E COMMAND TAPE 1 OF 3 02000-90075 2000E COMMAND TAPE 2 OF 3 02000-90075 2000E COMMAND TAPE 3 OF 3 02000-90075 2000E TSB REV C CORE DUMP UTILITY ORG 37400B FEB 74 2000E TO 2000F CONVERSION BINARY 24378-16001 REV 1640 2100 MEMORY PROTECT TEST BINARY 24222-60001 REV A 2100 DMA DIAGNOSTIC BINARY 24195-60001 REV A (PARTIAL {TORN} TAPE, NO LABEL) HP2000E TSB LOADER/UTILITY 24285-60001 REV C (PARTIAL {TORN} TAPE, NO LABEL) 16K SIO TTY DRIVER (LP-COMPAT) BINARY 24127-60001 REV A 2100 PROCESSOR INTERCONNECT CABLE TEST SOURCE 24197-80001 REV B DIAGNOSTIC 7905A ABS BINARY 12962-16001 REV 1644 HP 2000E LOADER-UTILITY 24285-60001 C 2000E SYS BIN 1/2 24280-60001 C DIAGNOSTIC CONFIGURATOR FOR 2000 SERIES COMPUTERS BINARY 24296-60001 1627 2100 FLOATING POINT DIAGNOSTIC BINARY 24251-60001 REV A 16K SIO TAPE READER DRIVER BINARY 20319-60001 REV A 2100 TTY TEST BINARY 24201-60001 REV A 2100 MEMORY PARITY CHECK TEST BINARY 24198-60001 REV B HP7900/13210 DIAGNOSTIC BINARY 13041-60001 REV B DIAGNOSTIC 7905A ABS BINARY 12962-16001 REV 1635 7900 RTE III RTGEN ABS BINARY 92060-16029 (C) REV A TABLE GENERATOR ABSOLUTE 1 OF 1 09610-60018 REV A 2100 HIGH MEMORY ADDRESS TEST BINARY 24212-60001 REV A %QS001 QUERY RELOC #1 RELO BINARY 1 OF 2 92063-16011 REV 1826 EVENT SENSE RELOC 1 OF 1 09610-60024 REV A EVENT SENSE HANDLER RELOC 1 OF 1 09610-60019 REV A CROSS LINK ABS BINARY 24296-16003 REV 1627 MEMORY PROTECT ABS BINARY 12892-16001 REV 1635 HP7900/13210 DIAGNOSTIC BINARY 13041-60001 REV B HP7970E/13183A DIAGNOSTIC BINARY 13031-60001 REV C 2100A TIME BASE GENERATOR TEST BINARY 24213-60001 REV B 2100 TIME BASE GENERATOR TEST BINARY 24213-60001 REV B 2100 SHIFT-ROTATE INSTRUCTION TEST BINARY 24210-60001 REV A 2100 GENERAL PURPOSE REGISTER TEST BINARY 24196-60001 REV A DIAGNOSTIC CONFIGURATOR FOR 2000 SERIES COMPUTERS ABS BINARY 24296-60001 REV 1534 12920-16001 ASY. MUX. DATA BINARY DIAG REV 1805 2100 LOW MEMORY PATTERN TEST BINARY 24193-60001 REV A DIAGNOSTIC CONFIGURATOR FOR 2000 SERIES COMPUTERS ABS BINARY 24296-60001 REV 1534 MULTIPLE CPU & MEMORY DIAGNOSTICS #1 ABS BINARY 24396-12001 REV 1628 MULTIPLE CPU & MEMORY DIAGNOSTICS #2 ABS BINARY 24396-12002 REV 1635 MULTIPLE CPU & MEMORY DIAGNOSTICS #3 ABS BINARY 24396-12003 REV 1635 2100 MEMORY REF. INSTRUCTION TEST BINARY 24209-60001 REV A 2100 LOW MEMORY ADDRESS TEST BINARY 24211-60001 REV A 2100 HIGH MEMORY PATTERN TEST BINARY 24194-60001 REV A HP2000 ACCESS CROSS LOADER & MAG TAPE BOOT HP2000 ACCESS CROSS LOADER & MAG TAPE BOOT HP2000 ACCESS CROSS LOADER & MAG TAPE BOOT LOADER/LOADER PROGRAM 24353-16001 REV 1615 92060-16084 REV 1805 (UNLABLED TAPE WITH 92060-16084 REV 1805 TAPE) TSB E LOADER/UTILITY REV 1534 TSB E SYSTEM 1 OF 2 REV 1534 TSB E SYSTEM 2 OF 2 REV 1534 DATA BASE QUERY PROGRAM RELO BINARY 01 05 24376-16005 REV 1419 DATA BASE QUERY PROGRAM RELO BINARY 02 05 24376-16006 REV 1419 DATA BASE QUERY PROGRAM RELO BINARY 03 05 24376-16007 REV 1419 DATA BASE QUERY PROGRAM RELO BINARY 04 05 24376-16008 REV 1419 DATA BASE QUERY PROGRAM RELO BINARY 05 05 24376-16009 REV 1419 DATA BASE DEFINITION PROGRAM RELO BINARY 01 02 24376-16001 REV 1419 DATA BASE DEFINITION PROGRAM RELO BINARY 02 02 24376-16002 REV 1419 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY HP RJE SOURCE 14 24380-18014 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY HP RJE SOURCE 15 24380-18015 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY HP RJE SOURCE 15 24380-18015 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY HP RJE SOURCE 17 24380-18017 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY HP RJE SOURCE 18 24380-18018 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY TB6 DRIVER SOURCE 19 24380-18019 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY AS2BI SOURCE 22 24380-18022 REV 1402 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY REMOT SOURCE 27 24380-18027 REV 1402 2100 SEND(ONLY) INTERFACE (12622) TEST BINARY 24219-60001 REV A HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY DRIVERS (3/7) SOURCE 30 24380-18030 REV 1409 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY DRIVERS (6/7) SOURCE 33 24380-18033 REV 1409 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY DRIVERS (1/7) SOURCE 28 24380-18028 REV 1409 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY DRIVERS (4/7) SOURCE 31 24380-18031 REV 1409 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY DRIVERS (5/7) SOURCE 32 24380-18032 REV 1409 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY DRIVERS (2/7) SOURCE 29 24380-18029 REV 1409 HP REMOTE JOB ENTRY DRIVERS (1/7) SOURCE 34 24380-18034 REV 1409 2100 HIGH MEMORY ADDRESS TEST BINARY 24212-60001 REV A

17 years, 10 months

CDC (Imprimis) 8" 500mb drive

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Would be a PA8E1 Seagate changed the part numbers when they took over the product line. I don't think it has a manual head lock Have a manual scanned, will get it on line.

17 years, 10 months

WTD: Fuse PROM programming algorithms

by classiccmp＠philpem.me.uk

Hi, I'm currently looking for information on programming algorithms for the old fuse-link PROMs (Signetics 82S series, AMD 27S series, National Semiconductor 74S series, TI 18S series, Harris/Intersil 7000 series, Fujitsu 7000 series and MMI 6000 series). Does anyone here have copies of the memory product databooks from any of these manufacturers? I've got the Signetics Generic I algorithm (but not Generic II), and part of the NatSemi algorithm (text only, no timing diagrams), and nothing at all for the others. Main reason I'm asking is because I'm designing a programmer to do the 82S series, and I'd like to make it as universal as possible - i.e. if possible, I'd like it to be able to read and program the other chips too. I'm willing to pay for photocopies of datasheets, or the entire databooks if you'd rather sell the book itself. Thanks. -- Phil. | (\_/) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny classiccmp at philpem.me.uk | (='.'=) into your signature to help him gain http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | (")_(") world domination.

17 years, 10 months

Head lock, CDC 9720-500

by drb＠msu.edu

I'm preparing to have several 8" sealed HDA SMD drives shipped to me. They're what Prime called a model 4735 496 MB drive, and CDC called (I think) a 9720-500. If the manual is on Bitsavers, I don't know what it looks like. Is there a shipping lock on the heads of these drives? How to set it? Thanks, De

17 years, 10 months

pen plotters?

by dm561＠torfree.net

---------------Original Messages: Message: 23 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:20:55 -0800 From: "Billy Pettit" <Billy.Pettit at wdc.com> Subject: pen plotters? Richard wrote: As difficult as it is to find information on vintage terminals, its even harder to find information on vintage pen plotters. A pen plotter was about the only form of graphical output you could expect to see on a vintage graphics system as film recorders were very expensive. OK, what do you have in your collection(s)? --------------------------------------- ==Mike's Reply: HP7475A CGP-115 ================= Do have a few manuals on other plotters. Recently found one on a Houston Instruments plotter. It'll go to Al the next time we get together. Billy ==Mike's Reply: Which Houston plotter? 595/695 ? mike

17 years, 10 months

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