test-drb February 2007

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Best rescue I've had in the hobby so far

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Wow! Never seen a pile of Xerox stuff like that in Ohio... Ohio State used a bunch. The old Interlisp-D mailing list (which was gatewayed to usenet as comp.sys.xerox) was run by Arun Welch at OSU.

17 years, 10 months

Best rescue I've had in the hobby so far

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> I don't know if I'll be able to get hold of any > software or docs yet. Docs should be on bitsavers. I should have disc images for the major releases of XDE (the Mesa development environment) and most releases of Interlisp-D.

17 years, 10 months

'Pong to Playstation' exhibition at the Museum of Computing

by swebb＠cix.co.uk

35 years of working computer games consoles will be starring in a new exhibition at the Museum of Computing in Swindon. The exhibition charts the machines, the companies and the games characters that are now part of gaming history. The exhibition is open daily, is free of charge and runs until early August 2007. 'Pong to Playstation' shows the earliest and most unusual machines that ever graced a living room. From the world?s first TV tennis game, through the rise of gaming companies such as Atari, Nintendo, Sega and Sony, over 40 of the best-loved consoles and accessories will be on display. Throughout the exhibition there will be a number of hands-on machines allowing adults to relive their youth and children to play classic games that people still rave about today. The original Super Mario, Sonic the Hedgehog and Space Invaders are just some of the games available on original 1980?s machines. As well as playing the vintage consoles, visitors will be able to explore the design of game characters and build their own or existing characters >from Lego! 'Pong to Playstation' runs from Saturday 17th February to Saturday 18th August, Mon-Fri 10:00-16:00, Sat 09:00-13:00. Admission free. Simon Webb Curator, Museum of Computing www.museum-of-computing.org.uk Tel: 07939 582544

17 years, 10 months

paper tape ebay $4 deal?

by jwest＠ezwind.net

A while back a guy (ebay ID was something similar to 'jeffking') was selling cartons of paper tape for $4.00 each. Someone here said that the tape they got was oiled, don't remember who. I bought a box because all the tape I have is unoiled, but what I got was definitely not oiled (nor had it been in the past). It's no big deal at all, I'm happy to have more tape (especially at $4 a carton!!). But I was curious if others got in on this deal and if what they got was oiled or not? I wanted oiled for an ASR33... Jay

17 years, 10 months

Punched cards

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

The news isn't good. I don't know if anyone is manufacturing punch (tab) cards anymore. I've done some poking around. National Card West in Long Beach, Calif was acquired by Pacific Data Forms, Inc (www.pacificdataforms.com). PDF sold the punch card equipment to B&D Litho in Phoeniz, AZ, but B&D either no longer has it, or doesn't know it has it, but either way, doesn't make tab cards. Don't call the 702 number for National Card West in Las Vegas -- that number now belongs to a private individual. U.S. Card Corporation in Tiffin, Ohio has closed, according to Doug Jones. Pacific Paper Products (http://www.pacpaper.com/lccc-contab.html) makes continuous feed tab cards -- but that's not what we're after. Ron at B&D gave me these references from the 2001 Print Solutions Magazine Buyers Guide, all of which went to a dead end: Kay Toledo Tag, Toledo, OH no more Impact Printing, Hayward, CA no Windy City Press, IL no Marathon Label, Wassau, WI could probably do it but hasn't in the last 15 years and doesn't have the dies to cut the cards -- would have to be a custom job Doug Jones (Mr. Punched Card himself) may be the right person to respond to this -- Doug, do you know of any card manufacturers left? Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel _| _| _| Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 _| _| _| Fax: 1-510-525-6889 _| _| _| Email: brian at quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

17 years, 10 months

Calcomp manual (was Re: pen plotters?)

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

> Message: 29 > Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:39:32 +0100 (MET) > From: Erik Baigar <erik at baigar.de> > Subject: Re: pen plotters? >>> >> I have a copy of "Calcomp 906/907/951/PCI Online Controller >> Installation Manual" >> in which section 3 is 'Command Descriptions' which has 49 pages of >> descriptions. >> > Hi Roger, this is exactly what I have been > looking for since I got the plotter 10 years > ago. > > In the first year I did a lot of research to > reverse engineer the basic commands so I am > able to control the basic functions of the > plotter but the more advanced features like > drawing speed, character commands, maybe > hatching commands I was unable to decypher. > > Are you willing to share this information? > Of course I'd pay for copy and shipping and > I could put the copy onto a scanner... > > Erik. Yes I can copy it for you. It is stapled so I can un-staple it and put it through the Automatic Document Feeder on the copier. Actually the copier can scan into a folder on the network server I think, though I think the resolution is fixed, either 300 or 600dpi, and its probably always 24 bit colour. That makes the files for a 200 page document a bit big. I will find out the details when I get to work and let you know so you can decide how you want it. You will need to agree that if the copyright owner were to come after me that you would destroy the copy, but I don't think that's likely. I once visited CalComp's plant in Anaheim , and there did not seem to be many people about, and when I went to the toilet, that's when I realised they were not doing well. Its surprising what you can tell from a company's toilets. Soon after it was official, (Chapter 11?). Roger.

17 years, 10 months

Best rescue I've had in the hobby so far

by richardlynch3＠comcast.net

They are rough, but with some work I think they can look decent: http://www.box.net/public/47dcog63bd More detailed pics of the first one: http://www.box.net/public/t3d0ly3yas with some of it cleaned up: http://www.box.net/public/oqs1fchyu0 I hope to get some (or all?) of the boards soon too, since they are all missing. The third machine has indications inside that it was an 1108 (LISP) workstation. I don't know if I'll be able to get hold of any software or docs yet. Richard Lynch

17 years, 10 months

pen plotters?

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

On 15 Feb, 2007, at 08:17, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Message: 24 > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:32:02 +0100 (MET) > From: Erik Baigar <erik at baigar.de> > Subject: Re: pen plotters? > To: djg at pdp8.net > Cc: cctech at classiccmp.org > Message-ID: > <Pine.GS4.4.10.10702150728110.7126-100000 at deepspace.network- > defense-systems.com> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 djg at pdp8.net wrote: > >> I have a Calcomp 563 drum plotter on my 8/E. >> http://www.pdp8.net/563/563.shtml (need to make a better page now >> that I have it running. Showed it at the last VCF east) > >> to demo but didn't find much. Anybody know of some good ones? >> The format > > With my Calcomp 1038 I encountered the same problem since the > plotter language PCI/906 died out and I do not have got any > documentation about this. In reverse engineering I found > out how to do the basic operations (gotoxy and pen up / pen > down) and wrote a converter progaram. To get samples my > choice was to take the hp2xx utility which is available for > many platforms. With this you can convert HPGL to a simple > gotoxy-style which is than easy to process. This saved a lot > of work on an own interpreter and you are able to plot > most of the hpgl files... > > By the way: Any documents about PCI906 ot it's successor > PCI/907 out there? > > Best regards, > > Erik. I have a copy of "Calcomp 906/907/951/PCI Online Controller Installation Manual" in which section 3 is 'Command Descriptions' which has 49 pages of descriptions. Would this help? Roger.

17 years, 10 months

requirement for use of your real name on this list?

by doug＠stillhq.com

I am comfortable with people using whatever alias they desire - There has not been a policy to date. In any case, it is not the list that defines the name, it is the 'sender' field of the persons email product... BTW, As a quiet person who has enjoyed reading the list (via digest), there has been many times when I simply hit the delete button, as a number of people were getting quite petty. I see the same behaviours amongst some of the people in other groups I am members of - It speaks volumes about the participants. :-( Just my 0.02C worth Hex Star - Well done for a quite amusing handle. Doug (For the purposes of this email - also known as >>> HACKSAW <<< , Sadly, my profession dictates that I must now change the email system back to use my name - Lest some of my clients believe that I am being unprofessional !) On 2/14/07, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote: > > > > I was wondering if we can estabish that you have to > > use your real name here? > > > > "Hex Star" stands out like a sore thumb. Everyone else > > on this list uses their real name, not a "handle". > > > > > > > > > > Your singling out of a member is not the least bit appreciated...if you intended to send me a message by doing so you failed miserably...next time try communicating with me properly and politely offlist and perhaps we can get somewhere ;-) ------------------------------ -- Doug Jackson, MAIPM, MIEEE Senior Information Security Consultant EWA-AUSTRALIA PO Box 6308 O'Connor ACT 2602 Level 1, 214 Northbourne Ave, Braddon ACT 2612 Tel: +61 (0)2 6230 6833 Fax: +61 (0)2 6230 5833 Mob: +61 (0)414 986 878 http://www.ewa-australia.com ============================================ IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of Electronic Warfare Associates - Australia. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact doug.jackson at ewa-australia.com or Ph +61 2 62306833 and delete the email. This message is not to be copied or distributed to other parties without the express permission of the author. Any personal information in this email must be handled in accordance with the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth). ============================================

17 years, 10 months

requirement for use of your real name on this list?

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

James B. DiGriz wrote: > The Commodore and Amiga BBSes were another > story. It was more like handles were required. > Maybe that was just the local scene, which was > also heavy into CB radio. My feeling: Using a real name lends a permanence and signifigance and professionalism to a post or action. Using a handle especially a CB-type or phreaker-type one subtracts permanence, signifigance, and professionalism. Expecting professionalism or signifigance on this mailing list is perhaps being too optimistic. It's wonderful to see it when it happens, but I do not expect it to happen. Tim.

17 years, 10 months

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test-drb February 2007