test-drb June 2006

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220 participants
447 discussions

by rtellason＠verizon.net

I did some minor updates to my parts pages (a few new items), to be found at: http://www.classiccmp.org/rtellason/parts-index.html and I hope that some find that info useful. Also, I've acquired several thousand additional NOS parts of all sorts, so I finally got into it and inventoried the whole mess, and a list of what I have a *lot* of (or in some cases don't think it's likely I'll ever use) and put that up on another page, see: http://mysite.verizon.net/rtellason/w4s.html Maybe some of those bits will be helpful to you guys wanting to keep some of that older stuff running...? -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

18 years, 6 months

Root password on solaris 5.7?

by RMeenaks＠olf.com

Adrian Graham wrote: > You can download the current version of solaris9 or 10 and use it. > There is a cdrom > version of it, and you only need the first (and maybe the second) cdrom > if you are > only going to crack the root password. I think maybe one of the current > sparc versions > of solaris may drop support of the Ultra 2, so solaris 9 might be a > better bet. Solaris 10 is still supported on the Ultra 2, I run it on mine. Doubt it will be supported for Solaris 11 and higher though... Ram

18 years, 6 months

DTC-01 Drawings

by dgy＠DakotaCom.Net

Hi, My DEC DTC-01 seems to have an intermittent when the clamshell is closed. I suspect the (ahem) "ribbon cable" that brings power to the main PCB is just to d*mn heavy-duty and is flexing the board or one of the connectors. Too many conductors to check individually (since you cant access either end of the cable with the clamshell closed and would have to attach pigtails to all of them). Perhaps someone has a drawing set and could tell me what's *on* each conductor (so I can make educated guesses as to which to concentrate on)? But, somehow, I don't think DEC was in the publication mindset when it was released. :-( Thanks! --don

18 years, 6 months

VOMs (WAS Re: SBC6120 (a build-it-yourself PDP-8 clone) grammer checked)

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

> For many years I used an analogue VOM only. To be honest, it's rare that >you need to make an accurate meashuremnt when repairing a classic >computer (you want to know if the 5V line is pressent and correct, but if >it's acutally 4.95V, things will still worl fine). Then I picked up a >cheap Fluke 85. I use that almost exclusively now, but the analogue meter >stays on my bench, it's better for osme things. On this (semi) subject, I vividly remember for a while seeing a "solid state VTVM" that had the extremely high input impedance of a VTVM/DMM + the good low-range response with an analog output. Now, all I see are the "classic" passive VOMs. What happened to the VTVMS? were they "not necessary"? I'd possibly be worried about meter loading messing up some computer circuits with a passive VOM (10-20k vs 10M meter resistance). Scott

18 years, 6 months

First bug fix on ENT file utility

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

A reference to the file error message, which is in the relocated block, was not in the fixup table. I didn't catch this in testing because my error cases didn't have enough good data in them to overwrite the message at its original location. Just goes to show that testing error handling is the toughest testing. The original file has been replaced with the corrected version at: http://wsudbrink.dyndns.org:8080/

18 years, 6 months

The results of your email commands

by cctech-bounces＠classiccmp.org

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18 years, 6 months

The results of your email commands

by cctech-bounces＠classiccmp.org

The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts - Unprocessed: Z85n1PN88Kbyd5HAqICgMUIhELt02tCyzgWPNsCmRnCYarPWHm4DOcgXov9gVpc8bWDXC8A0pcAl t7xDyqlaVwfEzsZF6C5kMyThsf3Qr2IBMTxMUpCICjR8AzLm0NBMbMdRSp86PU40NZHxFbXBT2HGY0f ez8SbUjtHj2H4V0XpcUDfhkDRzIaZzXYGHWwOHeWJ9WspxbnHd33rU95onu8aUPAClx1Mg UFAmOGPG5QTEVgRyxQl7mJvwyNLCTLKYhGZwdIWNUx8mkfMEwhaLDjaRUFowDWnXecFQmzF bA7AsG8MlRp2BUKBck896Q8bYRLuAEIXtsHI059kS97yUZnUbK0yinZjjoKnzS5wrG5VpvgC VrbUrvf1dcWPz8hs4of5GnMVoZ6EFWIDRcREQndklN3qQzpPSXGTslHddD4tT4XspeV9Rt57ewAQT W0MECbKEqvs4U2VR0gSzneWXoQMOiWuXYzondTma2lTT2j2dIWtiXLV2fpEdFMUFuBmW5rcwrM4ggk 1wootW1KVtfWZUW8Mq40zxOQxroRoHEj21ikxoaVyJ1yV3jJmUf63JzlQ54TStIwCd7ZewXnN FBVvBgvM8OJcplLmmkVIowsoljJxiPT2RHiLwqHQzL7o6vTCTMQa11U2QigFXXfs3rkhBulhDj AfQ3ah10c56NSF4GKXGvfybD5cyrjGnxq6z1AZaSjGAFbu5EPqaPZDQK3BwIOrrhoR8VtDeMWvn - Done.

18 years, 6 months

The results of your email commands

by cctech-bounces＠classiccmp.org

The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts - Unprocessed: 4jYY4yRrYJrvv7KsNbx3LIkW32i6wzy8tphV3uKUlY32Yj9xHapoCfro3gI0AWr7rpmaRBoT5Flp wLeAUcwRx5eNzQx050FvRJbqwJVEHka7Jj1c9w4ZWEaSFXiknOmhI4OFARCjhtaamCxk5blfM1Ednba LafeW8mVAy914Pb1uTJNkAI9lWqJW7z7y3rrkzJdmuVVM4shvDdLFamNX8dO3YdRwVWca7 qUn5gdTRkKu9SkQmB09IE9Qgkp3siBTtqe11U31TuGJ7lQLF3wJKDytaxHyhBPWhZwQpKzP yWVf2T6BWl9L8BzGqGFj0Lq2zXAsrSFqJgVgPTrGz5xITnl6QkyArr9T8v7Cw9yc9iL9Pzk1 FfFG9YTZ1br0uZoc63PGn71IXktqm0x6PbfJi2CP8xqoDzikAhtz0EmWwY8wKjX6Chw4X6fote0g2 uYfVTtPlOSwNRayzIW5O1gLW9dUjAXEQnHO0G5j502Zzn873M04WhBBbAUSA1SqJZlBDgHhVFYleM9 Daz43rrSJT0gWPLyuJuH2MH2MmBLnH75UInRzy5GEK7w96t82djOhadojI0Lu1MmY4hmuNuap KTIDhGGsuvInkCNCgXO8w5Yp8HUdb1z1YzyBNV6arOVi5lYwgACRkhg356JAmoYVwGFfRJuymg wlbZ5MOuJ46vi4mhIsv9UgmIOuhF5V10Jj63bRoNOe5yvjPVuyKVe7NwsalMdFOEb0PEwStgRnw - Done.

18 years, 6 months

Selling things with lots of gold in them... (natsemi)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

I've got a Natsemi IMP-16C CPU + memory board [1] here (plus cardframe, circa 1974) that's packed with gold/ceramic chips - I'm considering off-loading it though as it's not relevant to the sorts of things I'm interested in. [2] Question is though, surely if I put it on ebay there's a fair chance that a gold scrapper will get it rather than a computer enthusiast? What do others normally do in such situations (or do they sell elsewhere?) [1] It's in remarkably good condition and likely stands a good chance of working, if someone wanted a fun project (manuals are on bitsavers). Some corrosion to the tops of some chips, but seemingly none to the legs, PCB tracks, IC sockets, other components etc. It's evidently been stored well throughout its life! [2] I *badly* need to thin the collection out a bit and free up some space! cheers, Jules

18 years, 6 months

Macintosh question (G3, 7 years old, so OT)

by alwrcker82＠imap.imap-r.rotors.cs.com

Original Message: ----------------- From: Ethan Dicks ethan.dicks at gmail.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:26:41 +0000 To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Macintosh question (G3, 7 years old, so OT) A quick question about the Mac G3, if you'll forgive it being not yet on-topic. Feel free to reply off-list to avoid rampant topic drift... Does anyone here know about the internals of the G3 line? I have a motherboard in front of me that I'm attempting to see if it will work. It came from a machine that had already been stripped, so there's no guarantee the hardware is functional. With the Apple Reset/NMI board installed, and RAM, and the Apple-enhanced ATI Rage 128 video card, I've attempted to see if it works by plugging in a PC ATX power supply and pressing the "power on" button on the motherboard and on the Reset/NMI board. I get a brief green flash from several LEDs, but the PSU doesn't kick on the fan, and the machine does not appear to be starting. Do I need an Apple ATX supply to test this? Could this be a battery problem? (the battery was completely dead and I have no handy replacement, so the battery compartment is empty) Do I need to have a keyboard and mouse plugged in to get a response? Thanks for any tips. -ethan Hi Ethan, I had a same problam with a G3 MT then found out it requires a Mac keyboard, that has the power button on it. Al DePermentier -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

18 years, 6 months

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test-drb June 2006