test-drb June 2006

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by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

I'm parting out my 7030-3CT machine (it was never complete, missing a fan and drive tray) If anyone needs any parts, I have these available: 1 system planar, MCA, 7012/7030, FW-SCSI-SE 256 MB RS/6000 memory (and I think 2 S4.5 cards, but perhaps only one) $ 1 power supply 1 floppy drive 1 internal wide-SCSI cable 1 RS-232 extension board 1 power card for POWER2 CPU card 1 67MHz POWER2 CPU card with 2MB cache (or cache separately) $ 1 Medeco lock and switch with keys $ 2 front panel fillers front bezel chassis The parts marked with a $ I'd like to get a trade for (nothing real big, RAM or SCSI/DSSI drives work) , the rest are free Renton, WA will ship if you want (you cover costs then . . .)

20 years, 1 month

The Good Old Days?

by Billy.Pettit＠wdc.com

Roy J. Tellason wrote: -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin Roy, Your sig file reminds me of one we had in the Army: There is nothing quite so dangerous as a 2nd Lieutenant with a screwdriver! Maybe you had to be there. The Army loaded up the Signal Corps with 2nd Looies every June. Had to put the ROTC types somewhere they wouldn't do too much harm. So we were the dumping ground. My company had 216 Lts out of 300 men total. The stories that could be told! And definitely not OT. Billy

20 years, 1 month

bounces?

by rtellason＠verizon.net

I'm getting messages here from the bounces address, starting out like so: "The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message." With what follows being a lot of garbage characters. I can't see anything in the headers that indicate that a post that's being bounced originally came >from my system in the first place. Anybody know what's going on here? Is there anything I should be doing about it? -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

20 years, 1 month

Solbourne 3000 SPARC clone luggable...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Just had offer of one. Anyone happen to have a picture so I know what I'm dealing with visually? Google turns up almost nothing, and no images. I'm suspecting that it's not of sufficient interest to justify the space it'd take up (we have enough real SPARC hardware as it is, plus a couple of misfits like an Axil clone and a Tadpole notebook) cheers J.

20 years, 1 month

old Hughes video projector

by bobalan＠sbcglobal.net

>I've just got hold of an old (probably late-80s) Hughes 800 projector. >It's a couple of feet long and very very heavy. Inside is a big xenon >lamp, a CRT of some kind, and some optics. It appears to work by >shining the lamp (through mirrors) onto the face of the CRT. The big >problem is, it doesn't appear to produce any video. I can hear the CRT >scan coils going. The scan pitch changes when I remove the video >source. In fact, it does appear to do all the things I'd expect when I >press buttons, but no picture comes out :-/ I think this might be an Image Light Amplifier (ILA). This used small CRT's coupled to a liquid crystal light valve. The ILA was a sandwich of materials that included a photosensor and the liquid crystal material. The CRT wrote it's image onto the photosensor which converted the light into a varying voltage. This voltage was transferred to the liquid crystal material which could now reflect light from the Xenon source. This is not a pixel based system, the liquid crystal material was a continuos sheet so would be able to image the full resolution of the CRT. They can have an almost film like image because there is no pixel structure. I believe the CRT's were infrared and so you could not see an image on the CRT face directly. Bob

20 years, 1 month

Commodore Computer Devotees Tinker With the Past

by Billy.Pettit＠wdc.com

Roy J. Tellason wrote: On Wednesday 28 June 2006 04:31 pm, Billy Pettit wrote: > Front Page Article on yesterday's LATimes: > > <http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fi-commodore27jun27,1,361394.st > >o ry?ctrack=1&cset=true Requires registration... Oh well. -- Roy, I think the problem is that the list server folded the url over two lines. The truncated url takes you to the registration - the whole url does not. If you copy and paste, you should be able to read the article. And if I knew how, I should have created a tiny url.... Sorry But you shouldn't need to register. Billy

20 years, 1 month

Root password on solaris 5.7?

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

> I think maybe one of the current >sparc versions >of solaris may drop support of the Ultra 2, so solaris 9 might be a >better bet. Solaris 10 drops Sun4m support (8? (maybe 9) dropped 4c and 4d support) Solaris 9 is (comparing apples to oranges, x86 to SPARC) noticably faster than 10 (10 on x86-633, 9 on U1 200E). I think that Sun only makes available the current release of Solaris :-(((( not very much use to the classic community (be nice if they had older SPARCcompilers, too) but I guess (a) they want to show off the latest and greatest technology and (b) it doesn't hurt if it stimulates hardware sales. xBSD is rumored to mount Solaris filesystems R/W, Linux is still experimental (I think- haven't poked around in there too much, just select "y" and buld from there.) although it is stable. Any Solaris 2.x or 7+ CD should mount enought to be able to read the disk. The Ultra2 is a nice machine- dual-processor capable etc. You can drop in a UPA framebuffer to get graphics easily (Creator class graphics are quite cheap and 24-bit).

20 years, 1 month

Available: Microvax cluster (Luton, UK)

by ceby2＠csc.com

Jules -- I know I'm coming late to the party on this, but I'm on holiday in the US and just picked up my email. I'm based in Hampshire and would love to talk over what's for grabs with the seller. Thanks, Colin Eby -- ceby2 at csc.com CSC - EMEA Northern Region - C&SI -Technology Architect -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

20 years, 1 month

Macintosh question (G3, 7 years old, so OT)

by trag＠io.com

>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:26:41 +0000 >From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> >Does anyone here know about the internals of the G3 line? I have a >motherboard in front of me that I'm attempting to see if it will work. > It came from a machine that had already been stripped, so there's no >guarantee the hardware is functional. With the Apple Reset/NMI board >installed, and RAM, and the Apple-enhanced ATI Rage 128 video card, >I've attempted to see if it works by plugging in a PC ATX power supply >and pressing the "power on" button on the motherboard and on the >Reset/NMI board. I get a brief green flash from several LEDs, but the >PSU doesn't kick on the fan, and the machine does not appear to be >starting. > >Do I need an Apple ATX supply to test this? Could this be a battery >problem? (the battery was completely dead and I have no handy >replacement, so the battery compartment is empty) >Do I need to have a keyboard and mouse plugged in to get a response? The Beige G3 (if you're looking at a Blue & White (Smurf) MB (the case was B&W, not the MB), then the following advice is inapplicable) motherboard can be used with either a standard ATX power supply or a special Apple power supply used in their Desktop version of the case (as opposed to Mini-Tower which used ATX). There is a jumper near the rear left corner of the motherboard with which to select the power supply being used. The jumper is probably set improperly, because this machine and the similar ones going back before 1996 (On-topic, <grin>) will power up even if there's no CPU on the motherboard. That is, pressing the power on button or the power button on the ADB keyboard will still power up the supply, even though the motherboard is brain dead. A Beige G3 could be missing any of three essential components if it was stripped. It needs a CPU, which comes on a 19X19 pin ZIF module. I doubt you overlooked that. It requires a voltage regulator. This voltage regulator delivers different voltages to the CPU module depending on the setting of sense pins in the 19X19 grid. This is less obvious, but I bet you have that. If not, it mounts in the ~2" vertical slot to the left of the ZIF socket. Finally, the ROM (firmware) in the Beige G3 is on a DIMM module. There were three common revisions of the ROM. Revision A lacks support for slave devices on the EIDE channels. So only one drive per EIDE channel. Revision B and C are essentially indistinguishable except that revision C doesn't play nice with some Skyline ethernet devices. Without a ROM module you won't be able to boot either, though it should power up. The two 32 bit wide ROM chips (weird ROM chips, noone makes 32 bit wide nonvolatile storage any more) on the Revision A have part numbers ending in 40x. IIRC they're something like 343S040x or some such, but I'm really hazy about the fifth character. The rev. C ROM chips' part numbers end in 49x. I'm not sure about the Rev. B; presumably something between 40x and 49x. :-) The battery, keyboard and mouse can all be dispensed with if all you wish to do is boot the machine. The battery is a 1/2AA available at Frys for about $6 or at Radio Shack for closer to $12. Jeff Walther

20 years, 1 month

NCR Minis: Re: PeeCee clones; was:PCW's 25 worst tech products

by ken＠seefried.com

I spent some time with the NCR minis at AT&T and a soon to bankrupt major airline. The premier box was the 3600, which was probably the box that the original poster described as "2 refrigerators", or some such...it was about that big or bigger. As I recall, it had up to 32 i486 processors (I vaugly recall a Pentium upgrade, and maybe a PPro one) and used some Teradata interconnect IP. They were touted as "data warehouse" boxes, and were usually used for some big DB app. Million dollar boxes. Ran pretty bog standard SVR4. I never saw a place to plug a keyboard and mouse into one of these... Then there were the 3550, 3500 and 3450 (at least...I think there were more). Proprietary Pentium multiprocessor, Microchannel minis...well constructed and fast for the time. Kinda sorta like Sequents. They ran SVR4 or SVR3.2, and I've seen at least one of them run NT 3.1. Someone even thought about porting Linux to the thing: http://www.anime.net/~goemon/linux-3550/. I shall not hold my breath. All of this stuff was superceeded by the Worldmark line, which was pretty much standard multiproc Intel stuff with an NCR badge.

20 years, 1 month

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test-drb June 2006