test-drb June 2006

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by Billy.Pettit＠wdc.com

Tony Duell wrote: What you're possibly missing here is that people like me choose a product _because of the availability of scheamtics and repair parts_. I actually tracked down and bought a genuine Teac floppy drive for this PC becasue I could get a service manual for it. Said drive cost over 10 times as much as a non-name, no-docs drive from the local PC shop. -------------------------------------- Billy: Tony, as far as I know you are unique - there are no other people like you. (And no, I'm not judging you - I regard myself as unique in lots of ways, and proudly.) But let's ask the list: is there anybody else out there or that you know who buys a product only if it has repair documentation available? And as a corollary, do you only buy products you want to run 20 years? Or can you accept a product as being expendable? How long should a computer part last? Billy

18 years, 1 month

someone is looking for CPM-86

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Someone emailed me.... "I am looking for a RAW disk image of CPM-86 1.0 or 1.1 for the IBM PC" If anyone can help him, please email me directly. Jay West

18 years, 1 month

preservation: linux and ST506/412 - SCSI bridge boards

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Out of interest, has anyone else ever managed to persuade linux to talk to any of the Xebec/Omti/Emulex/Adaptec ST506-SCSI bridge boards? Most of the boards are SASI, or at best semi-SCSI, so Linux refuses to talk to them. Just wondered if anyone on here had hacked any of the kernel drivers so that they'll work. As I understand it, the main problem's that the kernel drivers issue a SCSI identify command at boot time - which of course doesn't exist on any of these boards, and from that point on the kernel refuses to acknowledge that there's even a board there. I *think* a SASI board should work with a SCSI HBA, providing there's nothing else on the SCSI bus (at least that's what the Omti manuals suggest). Sure would be useful for backup purpose, but last time I looked at the kernel SCSI code (for an adaptec driver in that case) it was pure spaghetti :-( cheers Jules

18 years, 1 month

Identifying cctalk messages

by rick＠rickmurphy.net

At 07:04 PM 6/26/2006, Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote: >OK, I am listening, is there a way for me to identify the different >messages from two different lists as they present themselves when >Gmail is opened. Yes, for gmail. On top of your inbox listing there's a pair of buttons reading "Search Mail" and "Search the Web". Next to that is a "Create a filter" link. Click that. In the "To" Field, put "cctalk at classiccmp.org", then "Next step". Then, select "Apply the label" and pull down the "Choose label" list and pick "New Label". Put "cctech" as the new label name, click OK, then "Create Filter". Now all the subject lines for cctech posts will start with "cctech". -Rick/K1MU

18 years, 1 month

PCW's 25 worst tech products of all time

by cclist＠sydex.com

Some of which are vintage: http://tinyurl.com/k76mv It's a shame that Bob won't run on a PC Jr... Cheers, Chuck

18 years, 1 month

preservation: linux and ST506/412 - SCSI bridge boards

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

> But why anyone would want to set up something with an ST-412 interface on >the far end at this late date is beyond me. If you didn't have to reformat the drive (not sure how the bridgeboards worked in this respect), it would allow you to pull data off of a ST412-interface drive onto a modern one for backup. I have an IRIS here that the PM2 is nonfunctional, yet I would still like to see if I can salvage the O/S off the drive. The other thing I could think of is perhaps SunOS would have a Data Systems Design driver and I could drop the IRIS controller in a VTM (VME to Multibus) adaptor and archive it that way . . . but a bridgeboard would be nice if it worked. > 2) How to set up the board in software; I expect the kernel will get upset >if it can't query drive geometry at boot time - but it's going to do that as >part of driver set up, before any vendor-specific commands can be sent to the >board in order to set *it* up. try scsiadd - Debian supports it, anyway. I use it to find drives that weren't recognized at bootup (powered down) when I didn't want to restart the machine. It also works for hot-swaps. Scott Quinn

18 years, 1 month

VCF-MW 2.0 "extracurricular activities?"

by zmerch-cctalk＠30below.com

Was anyone planning on getting together Friday nite/Saturday nite / whatever day/nite outside of VCF MW 2.0? I'm planning my itinerary & wasn't sure if there were going to be any extra get-togethers... Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | A new truth in advertising slogan SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers | for MicroSoft: "We're not the oxy... zmerch at 30below.com | ...in oxymoron!"

18 years, 1 month

VCF/Midwest 2.0 Needs your exhibits!

by pat＠computer-refuge.org

In order to make VCF/Midwest 2.0 a success, we need more exhibitors to sign up soon. Time is running ot to register - there is just over a week left before exhibitor registration closes. So, if you've been debating coming and showing off your favorite classic gear, please sign up now! We need YOU to make this show as successful as it was last year. You can sign up by going to the following URL: http://www.vintage.org/2006/midwest/exhibit.php If you have any questions, please email me directly (pat at computer-refuge dot org). Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

18 years, 1 month

ebay blogs

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Anybody here use ebays free blog site? I just noticed it when a member of a forum I am on started one. Might be useful to try and reach people and get them into the hobby or atleast searching for items you might collect.

18 years, 1 month

Identifying cctalk messages

by zmerch-cctalk＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Jim Isbell, W5JAI may have mentioned these words: >I dont consider "[cctalk]" to be "extra garbage". I *do*. It takes what *might* be a semi-functional idea, and converts it to something udderly unmanageable. See below for more. > This is not the >only list I have that doesent identify itself and it is frustrating >when you dont know which list sent it. MOST lists have an identifying >signature in the subject line!!! Hey, because everyone else is doing it, *must* make it a good idea! :-O I'm on the Tandy CoCo list at maltedmedia.com; and it has a "sub-gateway" (for wont of a better term) from the yahoogroups list. The maltedmedia list puts a [CoCo] string at the beginning of the subject; no problem, right? But the yahoogroups puts [Color Computer] in front of their posts... and not all mail clients "do the right thing" with attribution prefixes, so you'll end up with something like this on the subject line: Re: FWD: [CoCo] Re2: [Color Computer] re: Where's my subject now? It's a right PITA to deal with that jazz... "If it ain't broke, *don't* fix it." Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger P.S. I almost exclusively do my mailing list sorting via the "X-BeenThere: your at listhere.dom" header; most good MLMs add it, and it's generally unique to that list. -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | Anarchy doesn't scale well. -- Me zmerch at 30below.com. | SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers

18 years, 1 month

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test-drb June 2006