test-drb October 2006

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by psand＠mac.com

I'm posting this for my friend Shane who isn't subscribed to this list. He'd like to find a good home for his Sun-3/60. The machine is available for pick-up (unless you pay shipping) in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. As far as I know, this 3/60 has 12MB RAM and a CG4 color framebuffer. It includes a color monitor, keyboard, optical mouse and the metal mousepad as well as an external 1GB SCSI disk (not the shoebox) loaded with SunOS 4.1. All cables included. In short, a very complete 3/60! The owner can be contacted directly at <navalpiranha at yahoo.com>. Per

18 years, 2 months

NEC Multisync II manual

by kelly＠catcorner.org

Does anyone have a scan of one available? Thanks, Kelly

18 years, 2 months

WTD: AT&T 6300 Personal Computer mother bd dip switch map

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Hi - I am attempting to install a CGA card onto a AT&T 6300 Personal Computer. It currently has only a 25-pin CRT port for a terminal dumb terminal (w/o keyboard). I need the dip switch map so I can set for the CGA monitor. The 6300 has a 8086 processor, and it's an OEM system from Olivetti. I assume that the user's guide for the Olivetti 8086 PC would due equally as well. Thanks. Bill D

18 years, 2 months

Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention 2006 pics

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi folks, Some cool pics of C64 equipment can be found here: http://lyonlabs.org/commodore/eccc-2006/eccc-2006.ht ml Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

18 years, 2 months

AT&T PC 6300 monitors - got one now

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

> >Chris M wrote: > > I don't see any reason why that 25 pin connection > > couldn't be adapted to work with say an early > > Multisync. > >...except that, in my experience, finding old Multisyncs are just as >difficult as finding the original AT&T PC 6300 monitors that go with the >machine. Both have similar frequency on ebay, anyway :) Fortunately there was PC 6300 monitor for sale at our club (marchclub.org) swap meet (with three 6300's) this weekend...Problem solved!...it pays to advertise.

18 years, 2 months

UREP

by drb＠msu.edu

Anyone know if the old UREP (Unix RSCS Emulation Package) is available anywhere any more? De

18 years, 2 months

information about the PDP-11/68 (also for PDP-11 FAQ: The Never 11's)

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 9 Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:00:13 -0400 "Bill Pechter" <pechter at gmail.com> wrote: > I believe the 11/68 was known as the Bluefin and was cancelled fairly > early on before it was out of prototype. I think Ontario Hydro was the > place that got the 11/74's. I never heard of AT&T having them. My wife > was in AT&T, Bell Labs and Bellcore and she never heard of one of them > there. This is urban myth appearantly. No 11/74 systems were left at customers at the end of the field tests. The most common myth is that Ontario Hydro whould have kept one, but sources there have denied it. Another myth about Ontario that I've read were about when DEC tried to convince them to change their 11/70 systems (or if it was disks) because the money they would save from lower power consuption of another system, which were replied to with a "maybe you didn't hear where I come from...". I think that actually may have been a DECUS Q&A session... And that one might be true. I don't know... Anyhow, back to the 11/74 systems... No, I remember (and probably still have the mail somewhere) that persons within Ontario denied that they kept any 11/74 systems. Also, people within DEC have firmly stated that all 11/74 systems *were* returned. > The last of the 11/74 KB11-CM cpus were used internal at DEC when they > had to ship a ton of refurb 11/70's to AT&T. (they were out of > production and wouldn't meet the FCC regs... so DEC called in a bunch > of their 11/70 systems from Software Development and Field Service and > shipped the newer cpu's from the 11/74 project to them as a > replacement. Well, it is true that DEC shipped KB11-CM cards to customers to use in 11/70 systems, but that wasn't the last of it. DEC still had/have working 11/74 systems in house, and in the early 90s they did a corporate wide search for 11/74 components, I believe, to keep their systems running. (Memory a bit hazy now...) When DEC disbanded the PDP-11 OS groups, the RSX team's 11/74 (CASTOR::) were moved to Colorado Springs. The DECnet group's 11/74 (just 2 cpus, POLLUX::) were also there, and FS took over the system. Well, actually Mentec took over the system, and kept it running for another number of years. As far as I know, the system they have still exist, but last I heard they had some hardware problem with the machine, so it wasn't functional. This was maybe four years ago. Also, RSX development have finally moved off the 11/74 onto something faster. But until recent emulators on really fast hardware, the 11/74 was still the best workhorse for the development system. Which is why RSX have a very nice and functional MP implementation. :) However, appearantly the physical machine stayed inside DEC, then Compaq, and I would expect currently HP. And it sounds like there is little chance of the machine ever leaving the premises. If it is disbanded, it's destined for the scrap heap. Or atleast that's what I've been told. If someone ever manage to get it out of there, I would love to help it back to running order. > We got one at DEC Princeton around 83 or so... Just different enough > to require separate not-too-available spares. They were used for a > short time with RSTS/E until the internal stuff moved to VAX/VMS. I would think that most components would be the same as the 11/70. Looking at the module list, only a few modules differ. Analysing it, the changes would be in the memory bus interface (that means both cache modules and memory box bus interface). Second, the MMU and ASRB microcode is changed. But I believe that's it. > There also was a system called Unicorn (which I think was another > extended 11 prototype which was the development of the VAX SBI bus and > MA780 memory -- later used in the VAX but built before that. That would be interesting to learn anything more about. Of course I assume you know that the PDP-11/70 and VAX-11/750 use the same memory bus, and same memory cards (with a few restrictions). Johnny

18 years, 2 months

Other LX woes

by mouse＠Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA

> In the past, I've run my LX [...] Speaking of LXen.... I've got two LXen. The LX has a cgsix on the motherboard, and if you "cd" to it and do "words" you'll see - or at least I do for each of mine - that it has resolution-changing words supporting, among others, 1280x1024. But when I setenv output-device to /sbus/cgsix at 3,0:r1280x1024x67 (or whatever it is), the console appears to start fine but wedges as soon as it tries to scroll. However, my two machines wedge in different ways. (One just hangs, still displaying the pre-scroll display; on the other, the video glitches as if it were changing scan frequencies and hangs displaying either black screen or no video, I'm not sure which.) Given this, I rather wonder if I just have two differently busted framebuffers or if this is just how LXes work (or more accurately, fail). So, if anyone has an LX, a monitor capable of 1280x1024, and some way to recover (unplug the keyboard and use serial console, or an OS if you have it set to auto-boot, to change output-device back), I wonder if you could try it and see if yours weird out when they try to scroll at 1280x1024? /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

18 years, 2 months

Wanted: GRiD Compass 1101 info

by tosteve＠gmail.com

Hi, I have a GRiD Compass 1101, but haven't been able to determine how fast the system actually runs. Many sites say 16MHz, but I don't think the Intel 8086 ran that fast in 1982 - overclocked? The Motherboard only has an 8MHz crystal, so... If anyone has a manual, it may say. Thanks- Steve.

18 years, 2 months

Anyone interested in this job lot (West Yorkshire, UK)?

by listmailgoeshere＠gmail.com

Due to an urgent need for more space, I'd like to know if anyone would be interested in taking ALL of the following off my hands. Doesn't have to be one person - feel free to club together with whoever you feel like if you can arrange it fairly quickly. I just don't want to ship individual bits of this or that to the four corners of the globe - I don't have time :( Here goes: HP 85 - 5 machines (one or two may be missing a few keys). I posted about these (and the 86Bs) on this list a while ago. HP 86B - 3 machines. All work, for varying degrees of "work". One seems totally OK, one seems to work but various characters of the screen are stuck as "M" right from switch on, so I'm guessing video RAM trouble. One has an unresponsive keyboard - a couple of the keys work but that's it. This one also has keys missing, so is probably best used as spares for the other two. There are RAM cartridges and ROM drawers on offer with these as well, also 5 off 9121 dual single-sided 3.5" HPIB drive and 1 off 9122 dual double-sided 3.5" HPIB drive, also 3 brand new rolls of paper and 6 tape cartridges Sun Ultra 2 300(ish)MHz - 384(ish)MB RAM Sun Ultra 1 140MHz, not sure how much memory is in it Sun SPARCstation 4, 110MHz, 96MB RAM, 1GB (I think) disk Sun SPARCstation 5, 90MHz, there's some memory in it but not sure how much Sun SPARCstation 2, 2 off, there's memory and disks in both Sun SPARCstation IPX, 2 off, both have memory and disks I think Sun SPARCclassic, faulty Sun SPARCstation SLC, has memory Sun SPARCstation ELC, has memory Sun SPARCstation ELC (faulty) - not sure if this one has memory Box of the system board and socket board combos from died-of-video-problems SPARCstation ELCs. There are about 8 or so of these, all have memory IIRC. Sun EXP-2 disk pack (the 386i style one) - 4 (one is for spares only). All have disks and/or tape drives in Sun type 411 disk enclosure, DAT tape drive fitted Sun type 411 disk enclosure, 4.3GB IBM harddisk fitted Sun type 611 UniPack disk enclosure, 7 off, all closed-face type. Most, if not all, have various low-ish size harddisks fitted Sun type 711 MultiPack disk enclosure, takes 12 SCA harddisks in SPUD brackets, complete with keys Sun "SBUS Expansion" with card and cable Sun GDM-17E10 17" monitor. Last known working, can't guarantee it still is Sun CPD-1790 17" monitor, works Sun GDM-20D10 20" monitor, 2 off. Both have different faults. One works fine once it's warmed up, but while it does the size of the screen "bounces" alarmingly all over the place. One has (as is written on the casing in biro) "LINE JITTER PROBLEM". These are stunning looking monitors - one even has its IR remote control. Make one good one out of the pair SGI 14" monitor. Yes, I didn't realise that any 13w3 monitors were ever made this small, but here it is. Don't know the model number offhand, sorry Huge box full of SBUS and UPA cards. Along with loads of CG3 and 501-2015s and stuff, there are some rarities in here (Vigra VGA cards, 4 off; others as well) Box full of Sun accessories - audio output breakouts, serial adaptors, drive mounting sleds, all kinds of stuff Huge box* full of SCSI cables of all varieties, from Sun DD50 right up to VHDCI Huge box* full of serial cables and RS232/MMJ-related adaptors Huge box* full of IEC 320 power leads Boxes of mice (Sun SDB, PS2 and serial) About 10 PC keyboards About 10 Sun Type 4 keyboards One or two Sun Type 5 keyboards One Sun Type 6 USB keyboard DEC MicroVAX 3100-30 - not sure if these have memory, they don't have disks DEC LA38 teletype DEC VT510 dumb terminal - 2 off DEC BA356 disk array - full of 4.3GB and 9.1GB drives. Has a personality module fitted, but I couldn't tell you what kind it is Other dumb terminals - there are about 20 of various kinds, including a Lear-Siegler ADM-11 which is retro-tastic Box of old SCSI and IDE harddisks 19" rack mount 10baseT network hub - 24 ports I think Drawer full of motherboards, 486 to Pentium era Various old media (including some hard-sectored 8" floppes which I think belong to something Tektronix) 3.5" floppy disk boxes - 3 of the "square" style (2 disks wide) and one of the "narrow" style (1 disk wide) Mac Plus 1Mb. Also an Apple 20SC harddisk to go with this - don't have the cable, though. Few miscellaneous external SCSI disk enclosures of various sizes Some x86 machines - few 486s, couple of Pentia (~120MHz) and two more interesting machines: - One DEC which has the CPU on a removable daughterboard (I have 3 of said boards - two are a single 486 and one is two Socket 5 Pentia. I can even give you the matched pair of P133 CPUs I bought to put in this). This machine has onboard Adaptec Wide SCSI. One Full Tower AT - will take (IIRC) 5 3.5" drives in a nifty swing-out cage, and 5 half-height drives (CDROMs etc). Currently fitted with a P200 with 64MB RAM and an Adaptec 2940W SCSI card. APC UPS system (don't know the model number offhand, but a smallish one) - batteries are duff, but I bought a slightly bigger battery (which has to go outside the case) and all the necessary big wires and connectors to be able to wire it in for use Entire shelf full of CDROM drives, including 4 Nakamichi 5-disc changers (two SCSI and two IDE) 7 off 3.5" HD floppy drives Several large bags full of various cables and x86 accessories (floppy, IDE, ...) Few boxes of various ISA/VLB/PCI cards - mainly graphics and network Probably a bit more stuff that I haven't listed, as well The catch: you must take it ALL. Currently, it's filling a room (and overspilling a bit from that) and I want it gone. I'd say this is going to fill at least 2 estate cars, so you'd probably want a van. I can help you pack and carry it out. How much? Make me an offer. The offer can be from "free but I can have it gone REAL SOON" upwards. I really wouldn't say no to some cash ;) This stuff is teetering ever closer to getting landfilled; I'd hate to see it be lost to the community but I honestly can't keep it any longer. I hope someone/some group out there can give it a good home(s). Ed. * where these are concerned, you can take the *contents* of the box but not the boxes themselves - they were quite expensive. I have many flat-pack cardboard boxes and can make some up for you to take stuff away in.

18 years, 2 months

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test-drb October 2006