Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
> Yeah, but if it wanted libX for the installer and you don't have it, even
> if you could bypass it, the odds are pretty freaking good that the main
> program would require libX also.
There is more than one "main program". There are command line tools
that do the real work and a GUI front end for them. I only care about
the former, I'm fine with never being able to run the latter - I don't
need no fucking sissy GUI shit.
MS
>
> Well, it figures. I was bragging on the list about how great my 9 track
> worked with the DQ132, and the power supply blows. I turn it on now, and no
> lights, nothing.
>
> Anyone have a clue what might have gone? I was away when it happened. The
> PDP11 was off, and I had left the 9 track on, plugged into the power
> control.
>
> The unit is an Overland OD3201. There is no external fuse.
NEver having seen this unit, I can't offer specific help, but I would at
least start by opening it up. Look for _intenral_ fuses, check them, but
don't necesarily replace them if they're blown. You do want to see how
violently they belew -- if the glass is shattered or blackened by a film
of metak, then the the thing really took some current!
It would also be useful to know if this is a switching supply (look for
electrolytics rated at 200V or more), or a linear (is there a large
laminated-core transformer?). And what the main components, espeically
ICs, are.
-tony
Adrian Graham wrote
>> I'd have thought this was worth saving if it's related to the 5150 XT, or
>> at
>> least it is to me. I'm trying and failing miserably to find an XT with a
>> 64K
>> motherboard, purely because I guess people upgraded them as soon as they
>> could afford to.
I had a original IBM PC with the 64k motherboard and small power supply. A
friend bought an XT as soon as they came out and it had the 256k
motherboard. I don't think they ever made a 64k XT.
Later I had my BIOS upgraded to install a 20 MB hard drive. (And a power
supply upgrade.) I had to take my computer to an authorized IBM dealer to
get the BIOS swapped. They would not just send you a ROM. Even with an AST 6
Pack I did not have 640kB or RAM because of the 64k motherboard. (But I did
have a cassette interface.)
Michael Holley
Hey, I was just wondering if any of my fellow DECies on this list live in
the Chicago area, I know there were quite a few DEC shops around here back
in the day.
Well, it figures. I was bragging on the list about how great my 9 track
worked with the DQ132, and the power supply blows. I turn it on now, and no
lights, nothing.
Anyone have a clue what might have gone? I was away when it happened. The
PDP11 was off, and I had left the 9 track on, plugged into the power
control.
The unit is an Overland OD3201. There is no external fuse.
TIA
Julian
Well, it figures. I ws bragging on the list about how great my 9 track
worked with the DQ132, and the power supply blows. I turn it on now,
and no lights, nothing.
Anyone have a clue what might have gone? I was away when it happened.
The PDP11 was off, and I had left the 9 track on, plugged into the power
control.
The unit is an Overland OD3201. There is no external fuse.
TIA
Julian
Googled and can't find a datasheet. Seems the payware website had
cleaned out the websites where you can access datasheets before.
What I needed:
typical schematic or description of CMOS battery back up 3.6V
rechargeable with 4069 IC and 82C206 (SiS, UMC, OPTi and C & T uses
this 82C206) specifically chipset's pin number for battery back up to
retain data and run clock.
I'm trying to troubleshoot typical motherboard that is not holding
CMOS data even I do have 3.6V battery power (already checked).
Cheers, Wizard
Board swaping and component replacement both have their place and that
place depends on your particular philosophy and goals. For myself, I
look at component replacement as a way actually learning how things work
instead of shotgunning a problem until it appears to have been solved.
Actually understanding how something works leads to progress while I
*firmly* believe that the board swapping only mentality leads on a
spiral path downwards. Board swapping is the obvious answer to the time
problem of reducing downtime ... most of the time :).
A good analagy that most of us have run into is the "my
son/daughter/friend/??? is an expert with computers and can fix
anything." Most of these people are called experts *only* because of
they know a bit more than the person making the comment. Knowing how to
reformat and reinstall an OS has its place, but without knowing what is
going on, it is really easy to reinstall the same problems that
generated the "Oh, you need to reformat the HD ..."
And Tony's comment about "that's the way things are done ..." is a great
statement that I fully believe in and support!!!
A sad (to me anyway) commentary on people in the US are the number of
people who prefer to buy an assembled and tested unit instead of
building it themselves when given an option.
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Tony Duell wrote:
> > Boardswapping has a place and is a legitimate part of the history of
> > computers going way, way back. It is how things were and are done, and
>
> I have never found 'that's the way things are done' to be a sufficient
> reason for carrying on doing them that way.
If you can prove that your repair business model would be more
successful
than the one that has evolved over time in the electronics industry then
you should write a book and become a consultant and make millions. Why
waste your breath with a bunch of geeks like us?
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com> wrote:
> That you, basically, stole the software?
I didn't steal it, I forcibly liberated it for the People.
And there was much rejoycing.
MS
