test-drb September 2004

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by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> > >On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 12:02 -0500, John Foust wrote: >> I've been receiving messages out of order: I'm seeing >> the responses well in advance of the original messages. >> Why would the list software do that? > >Same here, just in the last few days though. Didn't Jay mention a disk >crash a week or so ago? Maybe things are just clogged trying to catch up >since then and it'll all gradually sort itself out. > >cheers, > >Jules > > Hi There are all kinds of variable delays in messages on the web. Even though, one message might go the fast way, another might take a more roundabout method. There is any number of reasons that they might arrive out of order is they were sent close in time. Dwight

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Econet for an RML380Z?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Has anyone ever seen (or heard of) an RML380Z with Econet network support (rather than the usual coaxial that RML used for its CHAIN network)? I picked up an SJ Research MDFS Econet fileserver the other day which I'll have running at the museum. However, the docs at one point (and one point only, it seems so far) mention RML380Z fileservers and 380Z machines with Econet. (I've got an RML380Z fileserver, but naturally it has a CHAIN network board and not Econet!) As I collect Torch, Acorn and RML stuff (and Torchnet is at least electrically compatible with Acorn's Econet) it's of particular interest as it implies one day I might be able to connect machines from all three manufacturers. I've never seen mention of Econet support in any of RML's documentation though, so have a feeling it was maybe a product that never saw the light of day... cheers Jules

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CD Shredder

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Now here is something I like the looks of. At only $130, I'm really tempted to pick one up, it's perfect for destroying old data CD's. I thought others here might be interested in as well. http://www.primera.com/ds360_disc_shredder.html Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Completely and totally off-topic and without any meritwhatso

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net> > >"Pure >mercury sulphide used to be used as vermilion pigment (which may >explain something about some artists)". > >Yes... other pigments got them too! but in the case of old 'one ear >Vincent you also can mix in syphilis and also drinking absinth ( had word >wood in it goggle this for more info). > >the painters life was full of toxins and infection! Hi Also lead for whites and cadmium for yellows. I'm sure the list goes on. Dwight

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ibm aptiva for parts

by Lvchld1979＠aol.com

how much for the power supply?

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Completely and totally off-topic and without any meritwhatsoever

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Joe R. wrote: > >> Speaking of that. A few years ago they had a plastic bottle of mercury >> sitting over at the surplus disposal at Patrik AFB (part of Kennedy Space >> Center). The bottle had been sitting for a long time and gotten brittle. >> Someone tried to pick it up and it shattered and spilled mercury >> everywhere. They made everyone stay exactly where they were and called the >> haz mat crew. They came and made everyone strip, yeah, naked! Male and >> female. And then made them walk out into the parking lot where they sprayed >> them down with firehoses (in front of the rapidly gathering crowd!) So >> this is what you have to look forward to Sellam! > >Excellent! I'll be sure to invite over the Swedish Bikini Team before I >spill any. > >Tickets to the spectacle will go sale shortly. > Hi I suspect the hazmat team over reacted just a little. Mercury in elemental form is not all that dangerous ( or most of us old timers would be dead or vegetables by now ). It is most dangerous as salts or as long term exposure to vapor. We had a diffusion pump fracture in a lab once with mercury in it. It did require that we had to remove the linoleum flooring but we didn't all strip and hose ourselves down. That is just plain silly. This is typical over/under reaction of today's world on hazardous materials. We fail to put things into perspective. We also fail to consider all of the consequences of the choices we make as well. Look at how we handle asbestos. Look at how California handled MTBE. Look at how people see using hydrogen to fuel cars. The list goes on. Dwight

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*** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays....

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 7 2004, 22:52, ed sharpe wrote: > Pete: are we going to actually spin this drive up after bereakeing the seal > on it? I thought bad things would happen....... ed Of course you're going to spin it up. Drives are surprisingly tough. I've run drives with the cover off several times. To avoid a head crash, avoid dust. If you think the air might be dusty, disable the head movement and let it spin for a while to move any remaining dust out of the way -- winchesters have a small internal filter which filters the air as it is dragged round by the platters. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Simh on Gameboy

by rachael＠rachael.dyndns.org

>from Slashdot, http://www.kernelthread.com/publications/gbaunix/ someone has ported pdp11 from sihm to run on a gameboy advanced with unix v5 -- CBM, Amiga,Vintage hardware collector Email: rachael(a)rachael.dyndns.org url: http://rachael.dyndns.org fido: 2:237/38.8

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Classic computers FREE to a good home!

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Sorry for the public post, that was supposed to be a private reply Paxton Astoria, OR

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*** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays....

by jbmcb＠hotmail.com

>From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) >Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: *** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays.... >Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:29:32 +0100 (BST) <SNIP> > > While I have not been following every message in this thread..It seems >like > > a replica might be the best way to go. Could definitely "play some >games" to > >NO!!!! > >Sorry, but I object to technical museums that present replicas (and >emulators hidden inside the case of an older machine, and...) as the real >thing. You would not accept an art gallery that showed copies of the >famous paintings, you shouldn't accept it for computers either. > >If I go to a museum it's because I want to see the real machine -- one I >don't happen to already have. I don't want to see a fake. > >-tony I mostly agree. Technical museums shouldn't play games with "fake" hardware. Demonstrating said hardware is another matter. It would be really cool to sit at the console of a Univac and run some calculations on it, watch the power meters twitch as the accumulators spin. Maybe run the infamous election prediction algorithm :) Running an actual Univac, however, would be cost prohibitive, in electricity alone if not in maintanance. Get a Univac all set up, maybe with just enough B+ to get some of the heater elements lit up for show, complete and in working order, mind you. But if people want to play with one have an accurate simulator set up, driven by a PDP11 or Palm Pilot or something equally humorous. It would clearly be marked as a simulator, but you'd get the full effect of operating a Univac. Maybe even have it blow a tube now and then :) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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test-drb September 2004