test-drb September 2004

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by sab＠freemail.ru

Hello, Aro Hirohi I found your message releted to sysboot problems at Apollo DN5500 . here it is ____________________________ I am trying to salvage a nice Apollo DN5500 server. Unfortunately I had to swap the original Maxtor ESDI 760 HD - it makes a clunky noise - for a lower capacity Micropolis and I have some difficulties to reinstall DomainOS software. The system starts under service mode. It can read a bootable tape and install the mini DomainOS software but it cannot boot DomainOS directly from the hard disk ... it dies with an "Error: sysboot not found" What I've done ... in service mode, with a 10.3.4 boot tape inserted, > re > di c > ex config, ex calendar, ex invol ... to enter the new hd configuration, setup date/time and format hd then ... > ex domain_os ... does a lot of shoeshinning, copy base OS from tape to hd and says that sysboot is found and skipped ... ) go ... goes to HP logo and login or ) sh runs a text shell ... I was delighted ... but now if I shutdown and reboot the system in normal mode, it passes the tests ok but fails to start the base OS complaining about "sysboot not found". Same result in service mode if I do a > re and > ex domain_os. Considering that it boots fine from a tape, I assume that the sysboot is not a eprom program and that it has been erased by formatting the drive. Does anybody know how to install the sysboot. Does it have anything to do with the 40KB file copied from the tape to //nodeXXX/sysboot on the hard disk? Kind regards, Aro http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-December/023001.html ______________________________ I have the same problems now. Did you solved your ones ? If yes - may i ask you how you did it ??? Thank you. Al.

20 years, 3 months

Completely and totally off-topic and without any merit whatsoever

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 7 2004, 12:40, Dan Williams wrote: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:14:16 -0700 (PDT), Vintage Computer Festival > <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > > > > I've got some quicksilver that I liberated from some evacuated glass tubes > > by cracking the tips of the tubes and then emptying the contents into a > > container. Unfortunately, some tiny glass shards got into the container > > and is now mixed in. How can I filter out the glass shards so they don't > > cut up my esophagus when I drink it? > I'm guessing you haven't got an electron microscope and and a very > small pair of tweezers..... I'm surprised nobody has thought of the obvious: mercury is considerably denser than glass, so the glass would float on the surface. All you have to do is skim it. Never mind skimmed milk, Sellam, you can have skimmed quicksilver ;-) A more interesting way would be to use some other metal to make an amalgam, leaving the glass behind, and then recover the mercury from the amalgam. Sodium's good. If you put sodium amalgam in water, it will decompose into nicely fizzy caustic soda solution and pure mercury, giving off hydrogen, which "burns rather readily". The usual method of filtering mercury is to use a small folded filter paper, with a very small hole torn in the point of the cone. The mercury will run through the small hole, but most of the rubbish, which floats on the top, will stay behind. You usually need to do this a couple of times. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

20 years, 3 months

Classic computers FREE to a good home!

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Hi David;; I had at one time over 20 of those classic radios when I was a kid. Now I only have one, a Stennite. I too have slipped to collecting classic computers and using a PC. I am in Astoria, Oregon, USA and could come up and pick up the lot in Victoria, BC. I am particularly interested in the IMS and the Soroc and would pass any of the ones I wasn't interested in on to other collectors. I have had a couple of Northstar Advantages but never a Polymorphic. I would bring a Toyota Van. How soon do you need to move them? Paxton Hoag Astoria, Oregon

20 years, 3 months

Fwd: survived another one!

by netsurfer_x1＠fastmailbox.net

Glad to hear that you're still with us Joe! So, how 'bout them hurricanes ;P ? By the way, you wouldn't happen to know how bad (or good) NHC did with the forecast? I'm only asking because I work over at JTWC (Joint Typhoon Warning Center) here in Pearl Harbor, and we just love to make fun of those guys over there. It's funny that they say they're busy over there when there are only two storms. 2+ storms are the norm for us! And we don't get an "off" season (don't forget about the southern hemisphere!). Yeah, it seems like Florida, Taiwan, the Philippines & Korea are just bad places to live this year. ----- Original message ----- From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:16:30 -0400 Subject: survived another one! Second hurricane in three weeks!! Just got power back after hurricane Frances. This one was HUGE!!!! It reached from the FIorida Keys to Atlanta Ga! It started raining here Friday. HEAVY rain and winds all day Saturday and Sunday. More rain Monday (and a curfew in effect). Today (1:30 PM Tuesday) some rain bands are still passing through. Three tornadoes in this area yesterday and another today. The worst of the storm was south of us this time and everything around here that could be blown down was already down due to Charlie so now as much damage this time but HUGE amounts of rain. I set my canoe outside last week and it was FILLED completely full of rain by Friday night. Luckily Florida is flat so rain doesn't concentrate much. NOW it looks like we're in the path of Hurricane Ivan!!! It's scheduled to be in this area about Sunday or Monday. UnF***ING believable! joe

20 years, 3 months

*** Ideas needed for developing interactive displays....

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 7 2004, 8:32, ed sharpe wrote: > yes.... the visual of seeing the heads seek in and out.... I suppose you > could pared the heads so they do not land and do not even hardly spin the > thing up just make the heads seek...... The large Fujitsu SMD drives (smaller capacity than an Eagle, but about the same physical size, 14" platters) have perspex HDA covers, and you can see the heads moving quite well. I have an M2284 like that. Of course, you can do it with a 5.25" winchester or even a 3.5" one as well, if it's the type that has a flat top cover (note that some Seagate 3.5" drives have a flat *baseplate* to which all the gubbins are mounted -- it looks like just a cover, but it isn't). Just take off the cover, and use it as a template to cut out and drill a perspex replacement. Or even cover it with clingwrap (saran wrap, I think you colonists call it), but keep people's fingers away from it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

20 years, 3 months

Completely and totally off-topic and without any merit whatsoever

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've got some quicksilver that I liberated from some evacuated glass tubes by cracking the tips of the tubes and then emptying the contents into a container. Unfortunately, some tiny glass shards got into the container and is now mixed in. How can I filter out the glass shards so they don't cut up my esophagus when I drink it? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

20 years, 3 months

Atari to release "new" hardware - the 7800!

by cbajpai＠comcast.net

For those of you who were at VCF/East and saw the talk from the developers of the Atari 7800..while they may have been disappointed the 7800 wasn't smash hit in ~1985.it may be in 2005! Atari (Infogrames) is releasing a miniaturized 7800. I wonder if any of the original developers will see any cash from their efforts 20 years ago. -Chandra Atari to Reissue Scores of Old Games By ANTHONY BREZNICAN AP Entertainment Writer LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Atari wants to take you back in time, and to get there, you can ride a "Centipede" or an "Asteroid," or bounce back and forth between the pixilated paddles of "Pong." The video game company told The Associated Press on Tuesday it plans to reissue scores of its classic titles from yesteryear on a single disc that can be played on the game consoles Xbox and PlayStation 2. "Atari Anthology" will feature 85 games and is scheduled to go on sale in November at a cost of about $20. But it's only one of the nostalgia projects Atari will push into the market then. The second is Atari Flashback, a slightly miniaturized version of the old Atari 7800 from the mid-'80s. It will have 20 games built into it, including "Breakout," "Solaris," "Crystal Castles" and "Battlezone." Flashback will sell for $45 and include a pair of old-school joysticks. Atari isn't expecting its decades-old games to compete on a technical level, like "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City," "Halo" and "Madden NFL 2005" that feature colorful realistic graphics, fast-moving 3-D action and the freedom to roam at will. Instead, the company is aiming at the nostalgia market. "It's a time machine. You go back to your childhood and you play," Atari chief executive Bruno Bonnell said. And for gamers who weren't even born when the first PlayStation appeared? "The kids will think this is quick, this is fast to understand, and we don't need a manual to understand it," he added. "We're going after two generations." Even "Pong," perhaps the most primitive of the games with its simple white square bouncing across the screen, may still have some appeal. "The more primitive the better. It shows that video games are not just about high-end graphics or sophisticated representation. It's about the game-play, the challenge to the player," Bonnell said. The "Atari Anthology" disc will offer new twists on the games, too: "trippy mode," which renders the graphics in psychedelic colors, and "time warp" and "double speed," which can alter the pace of on-screen action. Besides its array of classic Atari 2600 and 7800 titles, the Atari Flashback console will include one previously unreleased game: "Saboteur." Reissuing classic games in the modern consoles has become common over the years. "Sonic the Hedgehog" and its sequels from the early 1990s turned up on Nintendo's GameCube, and the old martial-arts challenge "Street Fighter" series returned on PlayStation 2. But those titles still look like science-fiction dreaming compared to the jumping dots and boxes of the old Atari games. Still, there is a market for even those old games, and the Internet proves it: Countless sites offer free downloads of the programs for playing on PCs - leading to rampant bootlegging. But Bonnell downplayed the impact bootlegging could have on sales for "Atari Anthology" and the Atari Flashback console. "You're right to say that a lot of them are bootlegged, and the code is not the right code, and the color is not the right color. But here we're offering them ... and you don't go through collecting the games on the Internet and being scared of the viruses that are going to pollute your computer at some point." Despite their simple appearance, the games can be very difficult, he added - especially for people who are two decades out of practice. "They are not easy to master," Bonnell said. "Some people believe that because they are old games they will finish them very soon. But I think people will be sweating to finish."

20 years, 3 months

SCO Open Desktop 1.0.1 stuff available

by mikes＠m5systems.net

Are these items still available?? Thanks Michael Seidner M5 Systems 602-288-8304 http://www.m5systems.net

20 years, 3 months

Classic computers FREE to a good home!

by dnr＠horizon.bc.ca

Hi! I'm new to this list, so please humour me. When I was a young lad, my dad, who was in the Radio business from 1925 onwards, lamented the loss of hundreds, if not thousands of classic radios. During the depression years, they robbed the old ones for parts and burned those beautiful wood cabinets for heat. With this in mind, I have kept/collected several old computers... all from the pre-Apple era. These include an IMS system (w/5mb HD!), 2 North*Star Horizon's, and (I may keep this last one) a Polymorphic 88. Terminals are by Morrow, a Lear-Siegler ADM-3A, a Cybernex L46006 and a Soroc-IQ-120. I even have and early Compaq luggable. The POLY-88 and the two N*S Horizons were my own machines. Now, sadly, I use an up to date PC. BTW: The Poly-88 is fitted out with dual N*Star floppies, but I do have the original serial cassette interface card! Now, I am moving and can no longer afford the space, so I wish to give them away - to someone who will appreciate them. They're too good to take to the dump. All were working when taken out of service... all have been stored indoors, and dry. All in very good nick. I have most of the diskettes (mostly 5 1/4" sizes) and original documentation. I also have a large box of spare S-100 memory and I/O cards (Even a clock/calendar on an S-100 board!) and various spare drives - in both 48 track SS & DS and 96 track DS - hard sector. Also have (if I can find it) a copy of McDos which grafted 96tpi floppies onto N*S Horizon disk systems. I think I may even have a printout of the source code for it! (No guarantees on that one!) I also have some old Borland publications and some original CPM documentation. Sadly, too much to keep and move. :( Ah! I hear you say... what is the catch? And, yes, there is one... and it's a biggie! I am in Victoria, B.C., and am not in a position to pack and ship. So, this offer is really only good for someone in Western Canada or the North West USA, who is willing to drive over and collect the stuff. The second catch is that its available only as one lot. Sorry, no time to get involved with 6 people who each want different bits. If you're interested, please reply off list, please. Many thanks. ---------- David Young, | ?galit?, libert?, Victoria, CANADA | fraternit? et Beaujolais. Personal Web-site at: http://www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr Leica Reflex Forum web-page: http://www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr/lrflex.htm

20 years, 3 months

xenix

by schoenfeldephraim＠yahoo.com

Hi I am trying to locate XENIX install disks would you know where to look ? I am helping a friend get a cnc machine up something made by cybermation Any help would greatly appreciated Regards Ephraim Schoenfeld _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

20 years, 3 months

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test-drb September 2004