> The bad drugs made me forget the operative word
> ...
> I'll *never* forget one thing, tho: Vioxx sucks.[1]
Oooh, send it to me then! Vitamin V makes snowboarding
a whole lot more survivable in your 40's.
Seriously, though -- it's just an antiinflammatory, shouldn't
have any psychological consequences. Are you getting weird side
effects?
Brian
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
_| _| _| Brian Knittel
_| _| _| Quarterbyte Systems, Inc.
_| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930
_| _| _| Fax: 1-510-525-6889
_| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com
_| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com
> Roger Merchberger wrote...
> The bad drugs made me forget the operative word
> ...
> I'll *never* forget one thing, tho: Vioxx sucks.[1]
Oooh, send it to me then! Vitamin V makes snowboarding
a whole lot more survivable when one is in one's 40's.
Seriously, though -- it's just an antiinflammatory, shouldn't
have any psychological consequences. Are you getting weird side
effects?
Brian
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
_| _| _| Brian Knittel
_| _| _| Quarterbyte Systems, Inc.
_| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930
_| _| _| Fax: 1-510-525-6889
_| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com
_| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com
Hi Steven
It is an offshoot of fig Forth. I wrote the stuff
under FPC by Tom Zimmer. It is mostly Forth-83.
One could make it work under most any other but
like most Forths of this era, the file access
may be different.
Of course, one can still get FPC from the web.
Dwight
>From: "Steven Canning" <cannings(a)earthlink.net>
>
>Dwight,
>
>Is it written in micro-FORTH or FIG FORTH ?
>
>Best regards, Steven
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwight.elvey(a)amd.com>
>To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:00 PM
>Subject: Re: Cool 4004 based calculator
>
>
>> Hi
>> I thought I'd mention that I've written a simulator
>> for the 4004 in the environment of a SIM-4. One
>> could adapt it to most any hardware environment.
>> It is written in Forth so it can be quite flexible
>> for someone that knows Forth.
>> If anyone is interested, I can dig it up. With
>> a little time to refamiliarize myself with the
>> code, I can help connect up I/O.
>> It runs under FPC on a DOS PC platform. There is
>> a simple assembler and disassembler as well.
>> For someone wanting to do a 4004 project, it can
>> be quite useful at debugging code and hardware
>> concepts.
>> Dwight
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
I recently acquired an IBM System/23 Datamaster (model
5322) computer, but I don't know anything about it.
A little help here?
Steve.
http://www.oldcomputers.net/pics/IBM5322.jpg
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.
http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
On Jun 16, 16:57, David V. Corbin wrote:
>
> >>> A problem is the braindamaged BIOS/mobo, which only handles
> >>> one floppy.
>
> Pete, altering the number of FDC/HDC from what the BIOS expects is
typically
> a significant problem as this is where all of the hardware access is
routed
> through.
Depends on the OS, but I believe DOS does so, for floppies at least,
unless you use a third party driver. However, I thought one of the
points of disabling an onboard device was to allow you to use one on
an additional card (other reasons exist, eg preventing startup errors
if you have removed floppies for security).
I think I've solved the problem, insofar as I've found a combination of
settings that works. I decided to make a list of the all possible
permutations of relevant links on the ISA controllers and
enable/disable/auto settings in the BIOS, work methodically through
them, and write down the results. Mainly because I couldn't remember
exactly what perms produced which problems last night! One combination
of disabling the onboard controller, using a particular card
(WDAT-240), having both floppies on that card, worked. Odd, because it
was an obvious one that I was sure I'd tried before; perhaps I did one
BIOS reset too few or something.
I've not tested single density yet. And I'm not sure about
reading/formatting/writing DD disks in the HD 5.25" drive. But it's
well after 1am here, and I've run out of time again...
> Please feel free to contact me off list if you want to discuss this
further.
> I do not think there are any "simple" answers [although someone else
may
> have an idea, which is why I am publicly responding].
Any other suggestions are welcome :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Jun 14, 21:54, Jules Richardson wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 21:40, Carsten Brasholt wrote:
> > Hi again,
> >
> > I just opened it up....
> > It's got 5 chips inside it.
> > 74LS00
> > 74LS74
> > 8251AP-5
> > 74LS32
> > 4060
> >
> > Does this help??
> >
> > I know that prestel is some sort of teletext service - and perhaps
a
> > dial-up service, but this unit doesn't really look like it's
related to
> > a modem.....
<pedant>
Strictly speaking, "teletext" is broadcast, the generic term is
"viewdata" :-)
</pedant>
> The 8251 is a serial comms chip - looks like you have an Amstrad
> cartridge giving you a serial port on the DIN plug, to which you'd
> connect up a serial modem in order to access Prestel.
>
> I have a feeling Prestel was 1200 baud downstream and 75 baud
upstream,
> but someone else will know for sure :-)
Correct. The idea was to make most use of bandwidth with the
technology of the early 1980s. Most of the data went from a central
host to a terminal; what went back was mostly typed (page numbers, data
entry fields, email), and few people regularly exceed 7 cps. There
were special ports running normal symmetric 1200 half duplex and full
duplex for "Information Providers" on a machine called Duke, but
ordinary users didn't have access to Duke, or those ports. Data
available included train and airline timetables, news, weather, lots of
microcomputer stuff including "telesoftware", and all sorts of other
things.
There were quite a few other viewdata services besides Prestel. Some
large businesses used viewdata, a few bulletin boards did, the Open
University, some banks, and it was widely used by travel agents --
there was a special system run by a consortium for clearing holiday
bookings. Derivatives included the French Minitel service, Germany's
Bildschirmtext, and Canada had something too. The last commercial
viewdata system I know of (Bank of Scotland HOBS service) finally
closed last month (though it may still be running for special
purposes).
It would seem that there is little point in finishing off the rough
edges on my X-Windows Prestel terminal software ;-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi,
Does anyone have technical information of the IBM cassette tapes
used to load diagnostic programs in systems like the IBM System/7,
IBM System/3 and the original IBM PC 5150 ?
I am looking for the used frequencies (fsk), the data speed,
the format, etc etc.
Thanks for all your replies.
Regards
Henk Stegeman
IBM S/7 restorer.
http://www.anysystems.nl/system7.html
Rumor has it that David V. Corbin may have mentioned these words:
>
>Fair warning, the following message contains the ratings of a single
>individual.
Danger, Will Robinson!!! ;-)
>As shown by the above quote, there is a strong anti "PeeCee" bias by many
>here. While I completely agree that there are significant *problems* with
>both the hardware and (Windoze) software, I do believe that the more extreme
>views are off base.
*Everything* extreme is off-base to someone (quite often to a large
installed base of someones!)
That's human nature. (BTW, I'm not denigrating or disagreeing with what you
stated -- I'm reinforcing it.)
>IF the computer industry had remained with a large number of completely
>different hardware/software environments which required trained operators
>for even the most basic operations, then computing would not have become a
>household commodity.
I disagree. I do think it would have been more difficult, but it by no
means would have been impossible.
> Even neglecting price, consider the concept of everyone
>having a [fill in the machine of your choice] in their home, at school (even
>at the lower grade levels or preschools!], and in all of the other locations
>where it is common to find computer access.
>
>Standardization of both hardware and software HAD TO HAPPEN, if computers
>were to become the commodity they are today.
Noper -- look at game consoles. Granted, some are a bit more popular than
others, but there are still 3 main (and mainstream) platforms to choose
from, all of which are incompatible with each other (and sometimes with
themselves! ;-) ).
>IBM/Intel had the technology, manpower, and finances to create a platform
>that was (reasonably) affordable
and the tech, manpower & most importantly finances to jam said inferior
platform down everyone's throat. From IBM, it was by no means even
reasonably affordable. (When I worked for GM/EDS on "da big iron" I was
vacillating between purchasing an IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 w/30Meg HD and a
<mumble> Color Macintosh <mumble>[1] -- neither of which I could afford,
even on GM's plans. I bought a 386SX16 clone with 2x memory, 2x HD, better
video, better monitor (which was actually OEMmed by IBM anyway, believe it
or not) at .5x the price.)
That's why Goatway, Hewlett Putrid & Hell computers are king, not IBM.
(Compaq used to be king... where are they now?)
When IBM said "You buy our PCs for your company, or you'll lose the lease
for that IBM 3090..." What do you think those companies did?
>, and significantly exceeded the
>capabilities of the current generation of "personal" computers.
That clone I purchased above, I bought for 1 reason: Games. It was an $1800
Nintendo. When I wanted to do *real* work, I sparked up my CoCo, as I could
do more work in less time under OS-9. In 512K, sans HD, on a <2Mhz CPU, I
could run a telecommunication software in one window, my spreadsheet in a
second, word processor in a 3rd, Basic09 in a fourth, keep one window just
at the prompt in case I needed it, and *still* had room for a 200K
RamDrive. I didn't have a snowballs chance in Hades of doing *anything*
like that with my IBM.
>Bill Gates had the opportunity to develop an operating system [MS-DOS]
Erm, it's well known he *bought* that. He did *not* develop it. The last
thing BG worked on himself was the OS for the Tandy Model 'T' (Kyocera
OEMmed) series of laptops. And that was back when Micro$haft still knew how
to make decent software, instead of buy crap & selling it to IBM.
>[snippety]
>So does the PC Hardware Platform have some serious shortcomings? YES
>Could a machine be build with significant technology advantages over a PC
>architecture? YES
>Does Windows have some real technology problems? DEFINITELY
>Is the current pricing/licensing model out of line? DEPENDS IF YOU ARE A
>VENDOR OR CUSTOMER <g>
Yea, and judging from *my* margins, you're one helluva lot better of if
you're a customer instead of a vendor... Unless you're name's Michael Dell,
you won't get rich selling PCs in your hometown anymore...
>Even with these issues, lets face the facts Windows/PC is going to be around
>[and dominant] in most business and personal environments for a significant
>period of time, unless something RADICAL happens on the technology level
>[Bio-Neural-Networks come to mind]. So lets stop the bashing, and just LEARN
>TO DEAL WITH IT!
Gee, thanks for yelling. Just when I thought you were going to keep a
logical, professional slant to your (up until now) well-thought-out missive.
Sad, really.
Regards,
Roger Merchberger
[1] I'm not denigrating said Macs -- I *really* wanted one. I just don't
remember the model #s I was looking at buying - hence the <mumble>.
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Profile, don't speculate."
sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Daniel J. Bernstein
zmerch(a)30below.com |
On Jun 15, 17:22, Rob O'Donnell wrote:
> >I'd love to see the server-side of things running somewhere again
> >though.
> >
> >It'd be nice to have a Prestel server at Bletchley with some
assorted
> >80's machines hooked up to it (bodging the phone network inbetween
:)
> >but chances are that nobody's got a copy of the necessary server
> >software any more :-(
> I should still have enough equipment and software about to set up at
least
> two of the various BBC-micro based servers which I ran at various
times,
> including the multi-user software that the GnomeAtHome ran on which I
had
> an official copy of...
Wasn't that basically CommunITeL? I still have a copy, and I think I
have a copy of at least one other server package for a Beeb. I used to
run a viewdata BBS for a short while.
> (Ah, the joys of building ring-detect circuits for cheap and nasty
1200
> baud modems that didn't have them..)
'cause BABT made it so difficult (and ludicrously expensive) to get
approval. I built one that did ringback in hardware, so we could tell
whether it was a BBS call or a real person (only had one phone line).
For those who've not come across this usage of "ringback", it means a
system where the caller hangs up after the first ring, then immediately
redials. The modem only responds if the first ring is short enough,
and the second follows after a minimum (but still within a maximum)
time.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
