In a message dated 9/15/03 10:05:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
cheri-post(a)web.de writes:
> It shouldn't be a problem to find out what kind of drive it is.
> Do you have an idea if it's a full height - or half height-built drive ?
>
My book says originally it came with a Full Height 20 meg HD and a single 1/2
Height 1.2 Meg DSHD floppy.
You could add another 5 1/4 inch 1/2HT floppy or a 1/2 ht Tape drive. You
could also order it in several configurations.
Recommended was the 3 1/2 inch 1.44 meg floppy drive.
Info is coming from a third edition of Que's Upgrading and repairing PCs.
I think you could use any 20 meg half height HD that meets the same
configuration, i.e., Seagate ST 225 or similar.
IIRC the original 20 Meg FH HD for the AT was an abysmal failure, a CMI or
something like that. Very high failure rate.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
>I would say a nice, fully functional original Mac with all the original
>manuals, software and components, is worth around $250-$300. They are
>not all that rare, but are becoming harder to find, especially in working
>condition.
Because people like me have too many. :-)
At last count, I have 5... 4 working, with one that has an accelertor
installed (and the non working one I know what is wrong. It is missing a
diode that was removed to get a mac Plus working at one point. In theory,
if I replace the diode, it should work again. I may just remove it from
the Plus it was put into, since I have way to many of those as well)
All 5 have mouse and keyboard. But I don't have manuals or software for
all 5 (either 2 or 3 sets, including audio Guided Tour tape). I think I
*might* have one box, can't be sure until I can get into my parents
basement again.
I have someone on the line for one of them. He doesn't want keyboard or
mouse or manuals. I told him I was looking for $50 when I planned on him
taking keyboard and mouse (never offered manuals to him at all). And now
would take less since he only wants the Mac itself.
So it looks like I wasn't too far off on what it was worth.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Your best bet for mac stuff is the swap list from www.lowendmac.com, its
>very active and if you can check out the archive it would give you a good
>idea what stuff sells for.
Already on that list. And it is one of the places that some of my stuff
will start to show up. I just like to have all my ducks in a row before I
start trying to sell things. I don't have the time to really drag it out
with guesses.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>You have conflicting requirements, if you are
>interested in the price it will get today, then thats
>an auction price which varies day by day.
>
>If you are interested in what the price would be if it
>were, say, for sale in an online antique store, thats
>a different, but generally more stable (and higher)
>price. But you couldn't sell it today.
>
>You are asking for a stable price that can sell today,
>sorry, that doesn't exist.
Yes, I understand what I want is rather conflicting.
I think what I want is really two things. 1: a way to find a "value",
kind of like a price guide... and 2: a way to know if its a selling item.
Once I know both, I can then make the decisions if I want to sell it,
keep it for sale later, keep it until it sells, or give/throw it away.
What I am trying to avoid is throwing out stuff that I think is
worthless, only to find later that someone really needed it, or that it
was worth a lot of money.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> According to my records the XT/286 (5162-286) came with a std 20 Meg HD, a
> MFM drive with 4 heads, 615 Cyl, 17 sectors, a 65 ms Drive. AT type 2.
Thanks alot for your answer !
It shouldn't be a problem to find out what kind of drive it is.
Do you have an idea if it's a full height - or half height-built drive ?
Pierre
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I just found a paper "The Soviet Bloc's Unified System of Computers", written by N.C.Davis and S.E.Goodman, published in "computing Surveys, Vol. 10, no.2, Juni 1978"
Depending on how many people are interested in this piece of history, I can make up a Word document, including a scan of the tables and figures prevented.
Nico
>Worth is defined by how many people want it. I have several nice
>DSSI tape drives and library systems here, which are worth a lot,
>but so far, nobody was willing to wheel 'em outta here... so.. their
>value currently is (EURO *)NULL.
yeah, this is where I am running into a problem. Price Guides are only
useful IF you have a buyer. I don't want to hold onto to items I don't
want, because a price guide said it is worth $100 if I can't find a buyer
for it. BUT, I do want to know that the item is worth $100, because then
I might hold it long enough to find a give away home for it (there are
always more people willing to take items for free then to pay for them).
But on the other hand, if I find something is worth nothing AND I can't
find an immediate buyer or taker... then my dumpster will receive it.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Fred and all other DSM lovers,
First of all a tiny little correction: the name is Luc Vande Velde ;)
I 'll contact my ex-colleages to see if if I can find the original DEC
manuals.
The language reference manuals I have (Mumps or M is an ANSI language and is
system independant)
To give you a quick start:
Once you load the system from tape(image) it will start in baseline mode
(=single user)and goes to
sysgen. On every question asked you can type ? to get a bit more info.
gr.
Luc
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[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Fred N. van Kempen
Verzonden: zondag 14 september 2003 22:09
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: DSM-11 (Digital Std MUMPS) info needed
All,
I'm finally done reading Luc VanElst's DSM-11 tapes.
We now have working copies of DSM-11 V3.3 and V4.1 available.
Does anyone have stuff like documentation, snippets, SPD's, etc
with which I can liven up its website pages a bit? Right now,
I pretty much know nothing about DSM ... ;-)
Thnx,
Fred
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HI John
I might be interested in the vintage keyboard you are giving away. If you
could please write back and let me know more details i would be very happy
thank you
Joe
