test-drb August 2003

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by jbraver＠rogers.com

Saw your post about DEC manuals you've collected. I just inherited two DEC LN-03 printers. Would appreciate copy of anything you've got for this unit. Thanks.

22 years, 1 month

Grammar, was RE: Work In KC Area?

by larry＠laurelnet.com

The word "prolly" in written communication is like fingernails on the blackboard of my mind. I prolly shouldn't get so upset about it. Larry "Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of one's native tongue it the most vital asset of a competent programmer." - Edsger W. Dijkstra -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of ghldbrd(a)ccp.com Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:59 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Grammar, was RE: Work In KC Area? The lastest ones are "have gotten" and "enthused", which have become commonplace in our English. May Edwin Neumann have mercy on our fractured words. Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO > My pet peeve is the use of "I've got..", "You've got...", "They've got..", > etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Sissel [mailto:James.Sissel@labone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:19 AM > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: RE: Work In KC Area? > > > My pet peeve is people who don't know the difference between your and > you're. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Monty J. Harder [mailto:lists@kc.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:42 PM > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: Re: Work In KC Area? > > > "Steven Elling" <ellings(a)kcnet.com> wrote: > >> I wish I would of known that before I went to DeVRY. I would of just >> went >> to Goodland VoTech and saved a bunch of money in tuition and living >> expenses. Plus, I would of been better off. > > I suggest that a bit broader education, which includes some English to > go > along with the technical classes, would _have_ served you better yet. > You used the word 'of' four times above, and three of (heh) them should be > 'have': > > 'would have known' > 'would have just gone' (not 'went') > 'would have been' > > > > There. I'm the freaking Grammar Nazi.

22 years, 1 month

Keyboard

by RToyota756＠aol.com

Hi David; I just found this old link; to your ad for a Northgate Ultra keyboard. Is it still for sale? Thanks, Roddy

22 years, 1 month

uVAX Sigma Cage...

by TDMINTERNATIONAL＠aol.com

I recently purchased one of these old sigma cages with DEC and other hardware inside. Anyone out there have information on how to "strap" the I/O cards so that the 9 pin serial port for the console is active? According to the DIP switches it is set to 9600 Baud. I know there is more to it than that. Thanks Ken

22 years, 1 month

LSI-11 and other goodies available cheap/free in Silicon Valley

by ran＠netgate.net

My apologies for the tackiness of posting a "for sale" ad to a list where I'm not a regular, but this seems to be the best hope of finding a good home for this stuff. I'm about to become another of those "Silicon Valley refugees", so I need to get rid of a bunch of "formerly useful" and "maybe someday" items so I can spruce up the house and put it up for sale. Many of them will be of interest to classic computer fans. These are the ones that I think are "on-topic" here: 1. A lot of LSI-11 parts. One DEC chassis (BA-11N, I *think*) with a minimal front panel and about 8 hex slots. Enough boards to build 2 or 3 working systems. CPUs: an 11/03, an 11/23, an 11/73, and a fourth one whose model I forget (I think it's a different flavor of 11/73, but I'm not sure). Multiple dual-wide RAM boards (and a 128KW quad-wide one in the garage, somewhere, I hope). Various DEC and non-DEC serial cards. An MTI MLV-11 MFM controller, with two Syquest drives and about 10 10-megabyte cartridges. A prototype of a UDA50 clone with a couple of ESDI drives (I think they're 760Meg, but don't hold me to that. They were "pretty big" 10 years ago, when I was working on it ;-). I'm pretty sure there's a QDA-50 to run it, too Assorted cables and other parts. All of the boards should be good: they came out of systems that were working back in my DEC-peripheral-consultant days, and were properly stored in anti-static bags. The Syquest drives were never especially wonderful as a family, but these seemed to work fine while I used them, and I think the odds are better than 75% that at least one of them will work. And the odds are better than 90% on the UDA clone. My preference is to have someone come by and pick up the whole lot for $100 (trade offers will be considered: there are a few small items, like hard drives to revive a couple of old PCs, that I need). If that doesn't happen, I'll recycle the drives, and sell the boards by mail. The other items are "free to good home", but I'd appreciate it if you offered something in exchange (like an IDE hard drive or CD-ROM for the PCs I'm fixing). 2. A Mac II, with MMU (so you can run Linux on it ;-), 8-bit color card, and one of the drives with a bad case of the infamous stiction problem. I have a couple of possibly-good replacement drives, but never got around to trying them. 3. An "OS/2 starter kit", including Warp 3, Warp 3 Connect, some aftermarket books with CDs, a few Hobbes archives on CD, etc. If nobody local claims this, I'll mail it to someone willing to pay the postage. 4. DC-600 tapes: an assortment of a couple or three dozen. Nearly all used (though generally not heavily: most were distribution tapes that I used once or twice for backups), but a few still shrink-wrapped. If nobody claims the lot, I'll sell the new ones by mail. 5. A Tandon 1/2-height 8" floppy in a Corvus enclosure (model FLP-1). I'm about 90% certain this was working when it went into storage 10 years ago. 6. A Voterm II. Condition unknown: somewhere on its journey through the surplus food chain, it got whacked in a way that smashed its fuseholder, and I never got around to trying to fix it. From what little I was able to find on the web, I gather that this is something of a rarity, so I'll entertain requests to ship it if nobody claims it locally. I'll check the list archives for replies, but it's probably better to contact me directly at netgate.net (userid "ran") to save bandwidth. I have a pretty fascist set of procmail filters in place, but putting the word "zaurus" at the beginning of your response will get you past them. Thanks, Ran

22 years, 1 month

Wanted: WPS-PC v3.1 or higher

by rogersda＠cox.net

Hi All, I've been searching for some evidence of what happened to the company that produced WPS-80 and WPS-PC, and come up dry. I need at least the license and binaries, but the hard-copy documentation would be nice, too. ADVthanksANCE, Dale

22 years, 1 month

Interesting Burroughs Photo Site

by aek＠spies.com

can be found here: http://www.cbi.umn.edu/IMAGES/index -- out of curiosity, I did a search for "magnetic tape" in CBI's search engine. While there were several hits on documents describing various aspects of magnetic tape, there were no indices for any tapes themselves. Unfortunately, the companies whose archives are being turned over to CBI, The Computer History Museum, etc. saved the manuals and the photographs, but none of the software. :-< The only exception I've found so far was in the DEC archives at CHM, which has one storage box of PDP-15 diagnostics on paper tape.

22 years, 1 month

OT: RE: Grammar, was RE: Work In KC Area?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 7, 19:11, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > > > The proper usage is to speak of "myriad OT threads" (as in "many OT > Wrong, it's "a myriad *of* <something>" , defined as "a great number > of things", "many things" and so on. Not wrong at all. The Oxford English Dictionary defines it as "myriad, a & n, ten thousand (of); an indefinitely large number". The original usage was "myriad things"; "myriad of ..." is recent usage. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 1 month

Grammar, was RE: Work In KC Area?

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

The lastest ones are "have gotten" and "enthused", which have become commonplace in our English. May Edwin Neumann have mercy on our fractured words. Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO > My pet peeve is the use of "I've got..", "You've got...", "They've got..", > etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Sissel [mailto:James.Sissel@labone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:19 AM > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: RE: Work In KC Area? > > > My pet peeve is people who don't know the difference between your and > you're. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Monty J. Harder [mailto:lists@kc.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:42 PM > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: Re: Work In KC Area? > > > "Steven Elling" <ellings(a)kcnet.com> wrote: > >> I wish I would of known that before I went to DeVRY. I would of just >> went >> to Goodland VoTech and saved a bunch of money in tuition and living >> expenses. Plus, I would of been better off. > > I suggest that a bit broader education, which includes some English to > go > along with the technical classes, would _have_ served you better yet. > You used the word 'of' four times above, and three of (heh) them should be > 'have': > > 'would have known' > 'would have just gone' (not 'went') > 'would have been' > > > > There. I'm the freaking Grammar Nazi.

22 years, 1 month

Old IBM machines

by SPEDRAJA＠ono.com

Perhaps somebody can have some interest in these items: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&category=1247&item=2746220303 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&category=1247&item=2746223305 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&category=1247&item=2746236697 Of course, if I should have sufficient money I should have no doubt ! Greetings Sergio

22 years, 1 month

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test-drb August 2003