In cctalk-703, Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> The drive systems are widely available in the surplus market and are
> cheap. In fact, since you're a government agency you could get them for
> nothing from other government agencies that are surplussing them. I
> would recommend the HP 9121 S or D disk drives. They're small,
> reliable and use standard 720k 3.5" floppy disks. The S drive is a
> single drive and the D drives have two drives in them. I thnk you'll
> need one of the option ROMs in order to use the floppy dirves but those
> are also available surplus and again you could probably get all you
> need from other agencies for free. There are a LOT of 9825s out there.
I have talked with these guys as well and their problem is getting the
files off their last working tape.
james.clements(a)robins.af.mil wrote:
> Apparently there are some files that are protected some way. It will
> not allow us to copy all the files. Some copy fine others do not.
I didn't know you could have protected files in the 9825, but if they
have tried and failed, then we need to explore other ways of getting
these files off the tape.
So I was thinking, can another machine (e.g. HP 85) read 9825 tapes?
I think the tape mechanism is the same, but I am not sure about the
way data is organized on the tape.
Thanks
**vp
I've spent part of the last two days working on an Intel 310 that I found
in a scrap place and finally got it working. I'm just wondering how common
thse are. I searched the net and didn't find any on any web sites but a
number of people's resumes mentioned using them at one time. Does anyone
else on the list have one of these? If so does it still work? There's good
picture of one at <http://valinor.ca/in310a.jpg>. Even thought they're in
a desktop case, they still used Multibus cards. They ran either iRMX or
XENIX (Mine has XENIX installed).
Joe
> There's ten serial ports on it and they're numbered J20 to J32.
> You'd think that the system port would be the lowest or maybe the
> highest numbered port but Nooo, it's J31!
My NCR Unix Tower has two 'special' serial ports on the back; ISTR that port B
is the console, and port A is for a remote diagnostic modem. It's possible your
system has a similar I suppose, and J32 is for a modem...
> There's lots of bad blocks and such on the drive. I'm wondering if I should
> just install iRMX on it and forget it. Comments?
In situations like that I tend to pull the drive, drop it in a Linux system and
grab a raw image of the disk to a file. At least then I have the data, even if
accessing it can be a little complex. Format the drive then by all means, but
if it has bad blocks it sounds like it might not be too healthy anyway...
cheers
Jules
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>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>
> Does anyone know exactly what these are and how they differ from the
>800/801 drives? The general specs( 8" FH 800k) are the same.
>
> Joe
>
Hi Joe
The 900 series have a different connector for the cable.
Instead of a .100 50 pin, it uses a .156 44 pin connector.
I don't know about the 902 though.
As I recall, it should be similar to the 800's. I have
a 900 series drive in my Nicolet NC-80. If you have an
extra, I've been looking to expand my machine to a dual
floppy. Doing disk copies are a real pain. The machine
has only 12Kx20 of core memory. Not much room for a
bunch of disk buffers.
Dwight
I had some time to kill this morning so I drove over to the warehouse and
worked on the Intel 310 and I finally got it running. As I suspected, the
HD controller was mis-configured and I also got lucky and found the proper
port for the system console. There's ten serial ports on it and they're
numbered J20 to J32. You'd think that the system port would be the lowest
or maybe the highest numbered port but Nooo, it's J31! I read through the
few Intel 310 manuals that I have last night and they're not much help but
they at least gave me the proper baud rate, parity, etc so that elimenated
one unknown. Played around with the SDM and ROM diagnostics and all the
hardware checks out perfectly. The bad news that the 310 has XENIX
installed :-( I also couldn't log into the system as a user or super user
since i don't know the account names or passwords. Does anyone have any
idea how to break into a XENIX system? It's XENIX 286 -W- Version 3.0.
There's lots of bad blocks and such on the drive. I'm wondering if I should
just install iRMX on it and forget it. Comments?
Joe
Hi,
I saw your posting on a mail archive about having the cable that goes
>from a NeXTStation to the monitor, you wouldn't happen to still have
this would you?
Thanks, and sorry for the intrusion,
Jim
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