test-drb July 2003

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by swperk＠earthlink.net

Hello, I have an HP 9816S with an Infotek Systems memory card in it. The card is either misconfigured or defective, because I get the classic "memory missing" error on startup. Anyway, I'd like to find out whatever I can about this card, especially the jumper and DIP switch settings. It's the standard HP 9000 Series 200/300 expansion board, with "Infotek Systems AM 210 Memory" silkscreened on the PC board. There is also a label applied to another part of the board that says "AM 242". It has a four position DIP switch that I assume is to set the memory start address, and another set of four 2-position jumpers located adjacent to the DIP switch. It has 32 sets of 22 pin in-line sockets for memory modules, and there are 16 of these sockets populated, each with a module containing four 256 Kbit chips. The modules are paired up, so that sockets 1 and 2 are occupied, 3 and 4 are open, 5 and 6 are occupied, etc. Counting all the bits suggests to me that there are 2 MBytes installed on this board, with room for an additional 2 MBytes. Is Infotek Systems still around? Last I heard, they were in Anaheim, CA, but I can find no listing for them. Any and all help is appreciated! Thanks, Stan

21 years, 5 months

RLV11 in VAX 4000-400?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 11, 7:50, Jochen Kunz wrote: > > Can I use a RLV11 in a VAX 4000-400? > > The pdp11-field-guide.txt says: > RLV11 RLV11 Q RL01/02 disk controller option, consists of > RLV11 modules M8013 and M8014. Q/CD-only option. > RLV11 18-bit DMA only. Caution: uses BC1 and BD1 > RLV11 for purposes other than BDAL18 and BDAL19 > > The VAX 4000-400 has a 22 bit Qbus (all slots are Q/CD). So it looks > like this can't work due to the 22 bit bus that uses BC1 and BD1? The best solution is to use an RLV12. However I vaguely remember seeing somewhere an ECO which involves cutting two tracks, to disconnect the signals the RLV11 puts on the BC1 and BD1 fingers (unless I'm thinking of some other device). That fixes the electrical problem, but whether you can find a VAX OS that knows to only use DMA in the bottom 256K of memory is another matter. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 5 months

RLV11 in VAX 4000-400?

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. Can I use a RLV11 in a VAX 4000-400? The pdp11-field-guide.txt says: RLV11 RLV11 Q RL01/02 disk controller option, consists of RLV11 modules M8013 and M8014. Q/CD-only option. RLV11 18-bit DMA only. Caution: uses BC1 and BD1 RLV11 for purposes other than BDAL18 and BDAL19 The VAX 4000-400 has a 22 bit Qbus (all slots are Q/CD). So it looks like this can't work due to the 22 bit bus that uses BC1 and BD1? -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

21 years, 5 months

Teh over priced Mark-8/IBM 5100 is back

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

The seller is the overpriced systems and swiped descriptions and photos is back. <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2544091022&category=12> Is this the same seller ID or a new one? Joe

21 years, 5 months

Older wordprocessing software

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> > Windows 3.11 > 1. Replace Windows with an operating system. E.g. Linux or NetBSD. > (Especially the later runs very well on older hardware with non-GHz CPUs > and only a few MB RAM.) > You may skip this step if you are not willing to wrap your head around > Unix. Ahh, been there though. I did run Linux on this very same laptop for a while - I believe it was AbiWord I used as a basic GUI-based wordprocessor for my scribbles. At the time, one problem was the lack of CDROM drive on the machine for getting any large software onto it. The only parallel-port drive I had access to was a Microsolutions Backpack, and no matter what I tried it refused to work with Linux. No problems there under DOS / Win311. Second problem was one of performance - the linux distributions that were around a couple of years ago tended to be aimed at slightly faster hardware. I do still have old distributions lying around back to around 1994 or so (I remember the days of SLS on 50 or so floppies - it was always guaranteed *one* of the disks would be dead, usually near the end of the pile :) but then I'd have all sorts of compatibility problems with any modern software. Alternately I could trim down a more modern version of Linux - but that's a lot of effort for something that just gets used for casual note-taking now and then. Third problem is also performance-related, and down to the time it takes Linux - or any modern MS operating system - to start up and shut down. If I just want to spend a couple of minutes typing some notes, I don't want to be taking the same length of time waiting for the machine to boot and then shut down again at the end. With DOS / Win311 the startup and shutdown is extremely quick. Maybe there's a version of NetBSD that gets round the second problem, but I bet it still takes a lot longer than DOS/Windows does to boot and shut down. > I used several WYSIWYG text processing software at that time > (WordPerfect, AmiPro, StarWriter, ...) and they all sucked. Wordperfect 6.0 I assume, 5.1 not being particularly WYSIWYG as I recall :-) And yes, from memory 6.0 did suck; all these posts have reminded me of all the wordprocessing software I'd forgotten about. I used to use 5.1 a *lot* under DOS until I started running Windows 3 on the PC I had back then. I have a horrible feeling the negative thing I vaguely recall about Ami Pro was its stability, at least in the version I had :-( Maybe there were later releases with the problems ironed out, or it was just some odd problem with the machine I had back then. If I can trace a copy then I'll find out I suppose... Someone mentioned DisplayWrite too - arghh! That had totally faded from my memory. My father's work made it their standard for a while; I should have access to a copy in theory but I have no plans to try and track that one down... :-) cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

21 years, 5 months

hp 5036A Lab

by roy.harbert＠adelphia.net

Do you still have loose bound copies of the manual? I would be glad to scan and post them as I am in need of them myself. I just purchased a lab from eBay, but it came with no manual or processor. Do you happen to know if there are any micro's floating around?? Thanks for your time, Roy

21 years, 5 months

PC-7221

by brodie＠goulburn.net.au

Mike, I also have a Sharp lunch box computer and have tried to get a boot disk or config disk. Have you had any luck ? Regards Brodie

21 years, 5 months

Up for bid - More 'classic' goodies

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Shameless plug alert! I've got a few items in my latest crop of auctions that may be of interest to those of you running MicroVAX, MicroPDP, or IBM PS/2 Model 70 or 80 systems. First off, there's an IBM 'Blue Lightning' CPU upgrade kit, unused and still in its original packaging. This takes a 386 PS/2 system up to IBM's 486DLC. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2740760908 Second is another Maxtor XT2190 drive, which I'm told is the same as a DEC RD54. Don't know for sure what shape it's in, but I recall it was a pull from an old PC (which got scrapped). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2740802251 Finally, there's a DEC RRD40 CD-ROM drive (the one with the psychotic D-sub 15 connector on its case). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2740796077 There's other non-classic (and non-computer) stuff as well, if you're curious. No reserve on anything, some stuff listed as 'buy-it-now.' Thanks for looking. Anyway, hit E-pay and do a seller search -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

21 years, 5 months

OT: Realtek; Was Re: Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at Fry's in CA...)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote: > Interesting. I have had very odd performance with Realtek cards on FreeBSD. Um, you have read the comments near the head of /usr/src/sys/pci/if_rl.c, haven't you? -Frank McConnell

21 years, 5 months

OT: Realtek; Was Re: Windoze crash (was Re: Well, I was at Fry's in CA...)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Mark Firestone <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com> wrote: > Aww. They aren't the worst cheapo card I've been forced to buy in my > career, as in they actually work, if slowly. > > What do you want for ?9 I just get something of a chuckle out of people who figure all Ethernet cards are alike. Perhaps they have forgotten the lessons of the 3Com 3C50[01]. -Frank McConnell

21 years, 5 months

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test-drb July 2003