At 09:08 PM 7/17/03 -0400, you wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Tony Duell wrote:
>
>> > He has practically *all* the software for this machine. The only
>>
>> Alas much of it (C development stuff, etc) is still HP copyright and
>> therefroe can't be distributed.
>
>How close is it to being considered abandonware by HP?
I know for a fact that HP dropped support for these many years ago and
literally threw out their remaining software/hardware/manuals/testers. I
think we can safely say that they've abandoned it.
BTW I have HP-IL cards, serial port cards, a combined serial port and
memory card, Technical BASIC in ROM and even a Diagnostics ROM for the IPC.
I think I have all or nearly all of the docs, software and manuals that
they ever produced for it. And yes, the Tech BASIC ROM is made of standard
parts.
Joe
> One model that I used to support and I'd like to find would be the IBM Aptiva
> stealth model they made back in 1998/1999. I thought it was a neat idea to
> put the drives in a seperate enclosure below the monitor.
1996/97 maybe? Cluttering up my office/lab/computer room is an Aptiva
166mhz machine, with the neat black tower and black monitor with the
drive pod below it. It's a non-upgradeable system, a gift to one of my
kids from a grandparent, and has been replaced with a more modern
generic pc. You should be able to find on on epay if you're patient. I
want to save this one for the kid when he gets older he might want to
have his first computer, with it's antique windows 95, cd rom drive
(with no writing or dvd reading capability), and miniscule 2.5gb hard drive.
At least it's almost stackable...the roundy styling had not set in yet.
I have no idea what my dad will do with his Emac when it gets slow,
perhaps it could turn into art, hang two of them on the wall (screen
facing the wall) next to each other?
--
Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2
In a message dated 7/18/2003 2:07:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jforbes2(a)mindspring.com writes:
> >One model that I used to support and I'd like to find would be the IBM
> Aptiva
> >stealth model they made back in 1998/1999. I thought it was a neat idea to
> >put the drives in a seperate enclosure below the monitor.
>
> 1996/97 maybe? Cluttering up my office/lab/computer room is an Aptiva
> 166mhz machine, with the neat black tower and black monitor with the
> drive pod below it. It's a non-upgradeable system, a gift to one of my
> kids from a grandparent, and has been replaced with a more modern
> generic pc. You should be able to find on on epay if you're patient. I
> want to save this one for the kid when he gets older he might want to
> have his first computer, with it's antique windows 95, cd rom drive
> (with no writing or dvd reading capability), and miniscule 2.5gb hard drive.
>
Yups, that sounds like it. 2159-Sxx series. Sound like yours is the first
generation model with that cursed MWAVE modem. There was 2159-S80 and S90 models
which were MMX, no MWAVE and slightly redesigned and much better IMO.
--
Antique Computer Virtual Museum
www.nothingtodo.org
>D'ya know how to test the emissions of a VW converted to electric?
>A friend of mine could not satisfy the DMV until he welded a piece of pipe
>to the underside for the "tailpipe test" (aka "rectal probe")
I had a similar problem with a convertable car. They failed me because I
didn't have a roof on my car. Their claim was, they couldn't inspect the
rear windows to make sure they weren't broken.
I actually had to look up the laws and then bring the appropriate title
back to the station with me to show that their is no requirement for
having a roof on your car in NJ (you only need to have a windshield).
Of course, I could have just put the roof back on my car, but I was much
happier proving the idiots wrong.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
>
>On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Mark Firestone wrote:
>> I always wondered how they hooked up wiring to things that rotate, like
>> helicopter blades. With brushes?
>
>by periodically running it in reverse to untwist the wires?
Hi
I'm not sure that they run wires to the blades of helicopers.
If it is current caring wire, they most often use brushes.
For signal lines and low power, rotory tansformers are
common.
For autos, it is either a wire or brushes. This depends
on the manufactures choice. Both have relaibility issues.
Dwight
>
>> >I'm trying to put a push-to-talk switch on the steering wheel of my
>> >car so I can key the 2-meter ham radio while keeping both hands
>> >on the wheel. I've got a little boom mic and have built an interface
>> >box, but how to mount the switch has me stumped.
>
>disconnect the horn and use its button
>It will make g4 machines dirt cheap as the herd sells them off to buy the
>G5.
And I'm hoping it will shove the price of used early iMacs even lower.
Those things make GREAT office workstations.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi Joe,
The 05370-60022 part number IDs this as the Arming Board from the HP 5370A/B
counter. The 1820-0753 is an ECL dual 3-input gate, the 1820-1999 is a
multiplexer, and the 1820-2000 is a D flip-flop. These are all ECL IC's, and
on each of them the two end pins are connected to the substrate and tied to
the -5.2 V bus. These two pins act as both power input and heat sinks for
the chip.
Stan
Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:54:54
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Can anyone id these HP ICs? (Joe)
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Bingo! You're right. It's part number is 05370-60022. I had tried to
look up that number but all I found was a scanner with the same PN. Do you
have a service manual for this? If so, can you tell me what these parts
are? PNs 1820-0753, 1820-2000 and 1820-1999.
Joe
At 10:55 AM 7/15/03 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Joe,
>
>Your board looks like one of the interpolator cards from an HP 5370A
Universal Time Interval Counter. Do you see an "05370-6xxxx" part number on
the board anywhere?
>
>
>Message: 14
>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:52:26
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>Subject: Re: Can anyone id these HP ICs?
>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>
>Hi Ed,
>
> I posted a picture at
><http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/t-bird/hp-ic.jpg>.
>I unplugged the two ICs in the top RH corner and turned them over so that
>you can see the bottom and side of the ICs and the heat sink that the IC
>normally sits on. There is a depression in the bottom of the IC case and a
>rasied pad on the heatsink that fits into the depression. I've never seen
>anything like this before! Note the delay line (?) on the LH side of the
>card. Sorry I couldn't get a better picture. This is as close as I could
>get with my camera.
>
> Joe
--__--__--
There is a product called "Cyanopoxy" that is like a two-part "super glue" that can bond slippery plastics like delrin and molded nylon that should work. It is fairly expensive, though. I haven't used it myself, but I've read about it in the model railroad hobby press.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:51 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: plotter
<snip>
I've not found anything that will reliably stick to the plastic for said
pinion. 2-pack epoxy resin adhesives (Araldite, etc) certainly don't. And
no common plastic solvent disolves that plastic either.
<snip>
-tony
