On Jul 23, 13:56, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> I need something for Pentium II and higher. Anything that was
written
> pre-Pentium, such as Landmark which I used quite extensively, would
give
> meaningless results on anything beyond a Pentium.
Well, that depends on what you're measuring, really. But most of the
benchmarks mentioned only measure processor speed (mostly, as modified
by memory/cache speed) and if you want to know how something will
perform as web server, that's not very useful. You want a benchmark
that will take into account I/O bandwidth, or more specifically, disk
access.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>>Nosiree. Any PC, any RS/6000, really, any machine with PCI can do token
>>ring.
>
>Token ring didn't require PCI bus, I have some ISA Token ring cards around
>here somewhere
Yep, Madge and IBM (obviously) made ISA boards. I believe they both made PCMCIA
cards too (IBM certainly did, I still have one somewhere). My old company were
exclusively 16Mbit token-ring up until about three years ago (and crying out
for leads on spare parts back then).
Support for anything other than a Windows/DOS PC was pretty much non-existant
though and as we started using more and more Unix hardware (and the odd Mac,
and Linux on x86) on projects I ended up throwing a bit of Ethernet into the
pot, and things gradually started going that way by the time I left.
cheers
Jules
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Hey guys,
I just ran across a couple of DEC RA60 (removable pack) drives
and a HSC40 controller at a local dealer. They know _nothing_
about this stuff, save that it's _heavy_.
I was able to find some docs on the controller, but nothing on
the drives. As I recently acquired a VAX6630, I am considering
latching onto the HSC40, but am vacillating on the drives...
they _are_ heavy, and the dealer has no disk packs unless,
god forbid, they are still in the drives 8-( ... I need to go
back sometime this week and open 'em up for a look-see.
Not being familiar with the RA60, and being unable to find any
docs on-line, I have no idea how to open these up... does anyone
have any experience with these critters? Can they
be opened without power (i.e. is the top door locked with a
solenoid?) I found a usenet post that indicated how to lock
the heads, but I would be greatful for any info/insights on
how to open the drives, things to watch out for when
moving 'em, what to look for to indicate damage, etc...
BTW how susceptable are they to damage if moved with the packs
in them? (I _would not_ do this myself, but I know that they
were not handled gently by the folks who sold them to the dealer...
probably dropped off the back of a U-haul or something equally
gentle. They apparently came from an unclamed storage lockup)
Also, in the overall scheme of things, are these even worth
saving? I have no idea where to get disk packs for them
(I do have some 5-platter packs from CDC, model 9877, 877 and
877-51... would these possibly work? was there some sort of
disk-pack standard?)
Normally, I would not hesitate, but my collection is starting
to get out of hand, and I have to start limiting myself...eventually ;-)
-al-
-acorda(a)1bigred.com
> > The HSC would need its bootable media, probably CRONIC on 5.25" floppies.
>
> CRONIC for sure. On a HSC40 or 50 the boot media would be a DEC tape,
TU58
Joe, Not so. The DOS 1.0 manual has no reference to Microsoft. The first
page of the manual of DOS 1.1 states Disk Operation System, by Microsoft.
The DOS 1.0 just states Disk Operation System. The part number is not the
same either.
Karl
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:00:22
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: dos 1.0
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
If you have a DOS 1.1 manual then you have a DOS 1.0 manual. I've had and
seen several DOS 1.0 and 1.1 packages and the only difference between the
manuals was that the DOS 1.1 manuals had a paper sticker on them that said
"DOS 1.1". Even the part number on them was the same.
Joe
At 01:31 PM 7/22/03 -0500, you wrote:
>I have DOS 1.1, in fact I have ALL of the IBM/PC DOS versions but for a
>complete 1.0.
>
>Karl
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> new to the dialog here but was just wondering if there were any
interest in the computer automation stuff???
--
I'm interested in getting copies of any software and documentation
that you might still have.
At 10:24 PM 7/22/03 -0400, you wrote:
>Nosiree. Any PC, any RS/6000, really, any machine with PCI can do token
>ring.
Token ring didn't require PCI bus, I have some ISA Token ring cards around
here somewhere
"Mysterious PDP-10's in Stockholm".
There is lot's of stuff in the wharehouse...
KA10 2 (110V, complete, unknown condition gift from SC-group)
BBN Pager 1 Sails's KA pager
KI10 4 Three complete, Simon, UCI, Medecindata, Aarhus
KL10A 1 "MIT-MC" complete with T300 disks on PDP11
KL10B (1090) 2 Oden (QZ Stockholm) (complete)
KL10B (1091) 1 Tempest (Foa studielabb) (complete)
KL10B (2065) 1 Vera (KTH)
KS10 3 SC-group, TSL-data
Clones;
SC30 3 One in working condition (gift from SC-Group)
TOAD-1 1 Working
With the exception of A PDP-6 (have only one card Pulsed BUS
Transceiver 1665D) the Foonley's and the Minnow and a SC40, I beleive
there is a complete collection of PDP-10's.
Lot's of stuff, like a SA-10 IBM chanel adapter, cards, manuals,
spares, perpherials: TU77, TU78, TU45, RP07, RP20, RP06, TU70,
TU71, DN87, DN200, TU55, TU56, RH10, DF10, DC10 DS10, RM05.
And enough IO-bus, Memory-Bus, Massbus etyc cables to put it
together.
There is other related stuff like one of the original CADR's, PDP8/E,
PDP9, PDP12/LINC12..
I don't remember what hapened to "Katia", when the Stacken management
decided to destroy the PDP10's, some equipment and tools (like my 2020-
extender-card, 7-trk ITS distribution, Rp06 aligment pack) was lost.
Pices of Katia might be in the warehouse. Idea was to attach the
BBN-pager to a working KA.
As for proof, here are some pictures, as you can se it's packed, and
unless someone provides a very compelling argument, it will stay packed.
http://www.stupi.se/Bilder/pdp-10/index.html
-Peter
Ps: I'm not a member of the mailinglist, so please send me questions
direct.
Well, I imagine you'll get quite a few offers, but FWIW I do happen
to have a few S-100 systems, to wit, a number of Cromemcos and
a couple of Vector MZs. I do also have all the documentation for them,
system manuals and manuals for all the individual cards, as well
as the system software (CDOS and CROMIX, CP/M and Unix
wannabes) and some applications, also with manuals. Mind you,
being multi-user systems, they're not quite as simple in design
as most of the S-100/CP/M systems out there.
I don't think I have the original cards for the Vectors, as I also
populated them with Cromemco cards, but I could look; in any
case no docs.
The problem as always is the shipping; I'm located in Toronto, and
S-100 systems tend to have rather heavy linear power supplies.
A couple of other list members in my part of the world have expressed
interest and of course they will have priority as soon as I find the
time to sort it all out, and I'm assuming that shipping will probably
make it impractical for you, but if not and you don't get any better
offers, let me know and we'll see what we can work out.
Good luck,
mike
-----------------------------Original message--------------------------
From: "Ernest" <ernestls(a)comcast.net>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Subject: Looking for an S-100 system
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:23:07 -0700
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
I am interested in acquiring an S-100 CP/M system and I'm hoping that
someone here might have one that they might sell or trade to me.
I've never had an S100 type computer but I've always passively wanted one to
tinker with. I don't have a particular make or model in mind but I have a
general idea of what I'm looking for. Basically, I'm looking for one that I
won't be afraid to work on, like an Altair or some other very rare or
valuable old computer.
An example that I was thinking of was a Northstar Horizon, since it's not
rare, has floppy drives, and it follows the standard s100 bus architecture
(I think.) The Vector Graphic Vector 1 is another system that seems to be
fairly simple in design but I'm not sure how rare/expensive they are.
I don't want to spend a fortune, and I'm not looking for anything highly
collectable -just something simple and ordinary that I can work on and play
with, and repair if something breaks.
Thanks,
E
