test-drb January 2003

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by acme＠ao.net

From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Mike Ford wrote: > > > I love this logic, the price on ebay a place where all the traditional > > requirements of willing buyer, willing seller, and open market are met, > > isn't valid because its too high. No the acceptable price is the price you > > once saw in a scrapyard after years of digging through the place 3 times a > > week and have never seen since. > > Pasta tastes good with marinara. ????? Glen 0/0

21 years, 11 months

Maxtor drive goes under

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/16/2003 2:00:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com writes: << 2GB and 4GB drives started appearing... To this day I refuse to touch Kalok drives, not that there's many of them left. And if this bloody Seagate 52520 in my webrouter clunk-clicks once more it's getting swapped out! $DEITY, this thing is almost as loud as the Kalok was when it failed. Speaking of which, has anyone got a Kalok drive in their collection? Dead or alive? >> Ive got one. A 20meg one I think and it worked when it was put away. very noisy though. Looks cheap.

21 years, 11 months

Macro Assembler, Xenix, 8086/8088 Primer, Mac Repair, and early version of DOS

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

Macro Assembler, Xenix, 8086/8088 Primer, Mac Repair, and early version of DOS To those of you who have sent email expressing interest in 1 or more of the above, I have not forgotten - I have not had time to respond, yet - hope to shortly

21 years, 11 months

A couple of Good Finds Today

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 18:44, Keys wrote: > At Goodwill I got a book titled BIT BY BIT An Illustrated History of > Computers by Stan Augarten for 25 cents and it has lots of great pictures > and stories in it. That's a good book. I got my copy for 50 pence several years ago. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 11 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 22:43, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote: > > With email I can read CLASSICCMP on anything, with a Web-board, I'd be > > limited to a modern computer. > > Surely anything that can run a mail client can run lynx... Not necessarily. My older Acorn machines can read and send mail but there's no web browser that will run on them. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that's also true of some other older systems that people here might use. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Mac TV

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Just out of interest, can a Mac TV output PAL video and operate off 230V >(UK >mains voltage)? I'd love to get one (and get it to do something useful), >but >they don't seem to have appeared in the UK market yet. >OTOH, I *do* have a VCR that can operate as an NTSC->PAL converter... I can't say for 100% sure, but I would say that most likely, yes, it will work. Most Mac's could handle dual power IIRC (either auto detecting, or via a switch on the power supply), and Apple's other TV Tuner cards can input NTSC, PAL, and SECAM, you just select which one you want in a preference for the TV Viewer application. So I would guess the MacTV will do it as well. You will need a connector to convert from a screw on F connector, to a PAL connector, but that should be easy to come by. But, a note, you ask can it OUTPUT PAL, if you really mean output, like use the tuner in the MacTV, and run it to a VCR or another TV, then the answer may be no, as I don't think the MacTV output anything. You connected the antenna or cable to the Mac, and watched TV directly on the Mac screen. You could toggle between TV viewing or Mac (and IIRC, watch TV in a 1/4 size screen on the Mac desktop as well). But all viewing was done directly on the Mac itself. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 11 months

Maxtor drive goes under

by bones＠northrock.bm

It's always fascinated me how people have such strong opinions of one particular drive manufacturer over another. Commonly one will say that they have a certain make of drive and it's never failed them and they've tried this other one and they're dying left and right, etc. ad nauseum. I come at this issue from the perspective of a field service engineer and subsequently independant consultant. The fact is that, particularly with IDE drives, no matter the manufacturer, it's purely the luck of the draw whether one is blessed with a good production run. I get the feeling that, to cut costs, most manufacturers have the QC people working a couple of days a week, and even then they're not exactly the best paid position in the sweatshop. The same goes for cars - you just find the one you're psychologically comfortable with. No bearing on statistical reality, but to the buyer that manufacturer's product will always be superior, and faults will be more tolerable than those of the manufacturer who's product is "in the doghouse" for whatever reason. As for Dell going the way of PacBell, etc., well I can only say we've got what we asked for. We wanted cheap computing, we got cheap computing. If they raised their standards and correspondingly their prices, we'd run like heck to the next guy who offered their system for a couple of quid less. If you want a rock-solid system with total manufacturer's support and guaranteed uptime and all that jazz, you'd have to shell out over $50,000 plus support contracts, etc. Just like in the old days of some of the larger systems we discuss on this forum. Just my $12.34 (Like everything else here in Bermuda, my opinion has to be shipped here and customs duty paid <grin>). With apologies for the rant, Dennis (not Miller :-)

21 years, 11 months

IBM 5322

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Here, in the future, use the IBM US Sales Manual: http://www2.ibmlink.ibm.com/cgi-bin/master?xh=6IoY5YcEq*i*pR1USenGnN9332&re… Yes, its a NASTY looking address, but using that took me .23 seconds to find out the 5322 is a Datamaster CPU.. but then I scrolled down and the beast had been ID'ed. Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

21 years, 11 months

PDP-11/60 available for pickup in Houston

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

I have a PDP 11/60 available in Houston. It is untested and in an unknown state. There are just the two main components out of the cabinet with cards (I don't know what all cards are in there) and the two power supply units. Also have a front panel control. I'm being force to get rid of these as soon as possible. If nobody wants them I'll have to take it to the scrapper. Hopefully there is someone out there that can take these and make good use of them. ----- "If you want to see it, see into it directly; but when you stop to think about it, it is altogether missed." "When the mind is free of any thought or judgement, then and only then can we know things as they are." David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

21 years, 11 months

OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

> > I have a 200Mhz 6400 tower. Pretty nice machine, > except that it lacks > > ethernet. I've got it running MacOS 8.0, and until > recently, I also had BeOS > > on it. Runs both really well. Has a built in > subwoofer for incredibly rich > > sound. My main complaint: Other than adding RAM or > PCI cards, upgrades are > > nearly impossible with that impenetrable case. There was a recent article in MacAddict that a model of PCI Ethernet Cards from D-Link has MacOS 9/X drivers. I've bought several and they work great! And they are 10/100... Model number is DFE-530TX+, I've bought them for under $20.00US Give it a go! Regards, Al Hartman (Macintosh Emulation List Host) http://www.topica.com/lists/MacEmuList Enlightenment means taking full responsibility for your life. - William Blake __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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test-drb January 2003