test-drb January 2003

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by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> > ARM Evaluation Kit I just checked - mine's S/N 0184 according to the label where the cable comes out. If that started at 0 I guess they made a few... I found the IEEE 488 interface too, which I also seem to have a polystyrene box for but no cardboard, manuals or disks. Curious. (no S/N or label of any kind on that, and I didn't feel like opening the case. I expect they made thousands of those anyway) No sign of the Z80 box I may of had, but it might be up in the loft. cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

21 years, 6 months

Caption Competition! (bit OT)

by t.myers＠protasis.co.uk

That looks a lot like the old Prestel Viewdata terminal I used to have. 1200/75 baud modem, I believe it was badged by Royal Bank Of Scotland for their Prestel banking service. Caption could be "The houswife of 1999 will use a computer rather than the telephone to gossip with her chums"? Tim.

21 years, 6 months

VXT X terminal question

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Hi folks, I wonder, does anyone know what VAXstation CPUs does VXT software run on? VXT software runs (of course) on the VXT2000 X terminal box, but can also run on many regular VAXstations. It officially supports KA42 (VS3100 M30/38/40/48) in order to provide a software upgrade from VT1300 to VXT2000 (VT1300 is a KA42 without local mass storage and with a different badge on the box), but I have also heard (turned up in Google search) that it'll run on a KA410 (VS2000) as well. This last point makes me think "hmm, it must be fairly generic, I wonder what other VAXstations can it run on?" Specifically I wonder whether it would run on a KA43 (VS3100 M76). I'm willing to bet that it'll handle the SPX video board just fine, as the video in the real VXT2000 is an SPX clone, but I'm concerned about how it would handle the Rigel CPU. VS3100 M76 was certainly in existence when VXT2000 was designed and the VXT software was written, but did they include support for it in the released code or not? MS

21 years, 6 months

FA: TRS-80 Model IV with Corvus Omninet Network Interface

by florit＠unixville.com

Hullo fellow classiccmp enthusiasts; I'm in the process of clearing up some 'never started' project space, and have put my TRS80 Model IV find >from a few years ago up on ebay. I had intended to make the system a serial terminal, but it doesn't have a serial port and I never got around to buying one. I then thought of gutting it and making it into a modern PC. I was talked out of wrecking working vintage hardware just for the case. The neato thing about this TRS80 is (what I was told to be through usenet) the Corvus Omninet Network interface, aka Network 4 board; this is a diskless client for the network. Unfortunately I have no documentation, software, or proof, that it actually is Corvus Omninet, so take my commentary with a grain of salt. My limited probing on the inside of the system did not show any boards with the company name on them, for example, but I did not break open the shielded board area for a closer look (see pics). If this in fact was a real Omninet client system, you would also need a server or controller and the software to run it; again, from word of mouth, I was told it was likely a x86 or the like with a hard drive in it and the Omninet interface on it. On the auction page you will find a load of nicely sized pictures for it, and perhaps another TRS80 enthusiast will be able to determine if I was told correctly or not about the network. Here's the auction link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2301561688&category=1247 Here's the thread archived on google groups here: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&th=740c326f7620… Interesting tidbits from the above thread, thanks to "Frank Durda IV": "Corvus Omninet and Network 4 are the same beast. Tandy bought Omninet chipsets and made their own boards for the Model 4 and 1000HX/EX computers. The educational operating system that Tandy sold for use with Network 4 was written by a guy in his garage (living in the northwest as I recall)." "Omninet/Network 4 are trunk networks, more like Thinnet Ethernet in topology. (Some people came up with repeater/boosters that allowed non-daisy-chain wiring for Omninet/Network 4, but that is an extension of the basic design.)" "The underlying signaling in Omninet/Network 4 is differential, which means unshielded twisted pair works great (even using RJ11 plugs for interconnects work fine), but Tandy decided they would make more money by selling shielded wire and making you use those irritating wing-nut connectors. Tandys choice also meant that if you had one computer in the lab plugged into an outlet with a hot neutral, Tandys wiring scheme would promptly blow-out all of the machines on the network the moment you plugged that one computer in since they tried to share a shield ground via the shielded cable. This happened fairly often, and 30+ computers would simultaneously make Bing-Pop-Zing sounds as the tops blew off integrated circuits inside the case, followed by burning smells. Later, Tandy included an outlet tester with the installation kit and recommended its use..." AAAAAACCCKKKKKKKK! The horror! No burning smell from this one, however. This system was bought from a store in Sunnvyale, CA called 'Weirdstuff' that takes old computers and resells or strips them for their valuables. Wierdstuff is a cool store, check them out if nothing else to visit a blast to the computer and electronics past. They had a stack of these TRS-80 Models IVs at the time. They had been there for some time in the warehouse. Some of the systems had Tracking ID tags talking about 'Fremont School District', which is an area in Silicon Valley. My guess is they were traded or given away to make space for a more modern setup and weirdstuff ended up with them. Hope you liked all the background on it. I love collecting these old 'puters and hope to pass it on to someone equally enthusiastic. L

21 years, 6 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

At 03:09 16-1-2003 -0500, Chad Fernandez wrote: >Jeffrey Sharp wrote: >> In my quest to cover every aspect, to think about every permutation of what >> ClassicCmp *could* be in the future, I have yet another question to ask >> ClassicCmp subscribers: What if ClassicCmp were a weblog, in the style of >> Slashdot or Kuro5hin? > >It sounds like you are talking about a web board type thing. Please NO. > There are a few that I read from time to time, but they are a pain to >navigate, and email is so much easier! Web boards are what non-computer >people tend to use, in my opinion. I wish the various truck boards I >read were mailing lists!!!! I totally agree with Chad. If classiccmp were changed into a web board format, I would leave. Thanks to the mail list format, all messages are delivered to my computer when they are sent, and I can look through them at my leasure. I do not have to go and check if something new and interesting has appeared, because all messages will be on my computer already. Mail is push and web board is pull, and pull is unneeded work when push is available in my opinion. Reading email is much easier to do than reading a web board, for the boards I have seen you have to do an unbelievable amount of mouse clicking or other interaction with your computer to see the messages, a lot more than you would have to with your email program. For people already bordering on RSI problems this is not a good thing. Also you have to wait on the server for each message to appear, more waiting time than you would have from your mailer. And you have to be online all the time to read the board, and with mail you go online, get all the messages, and disconnect again. Over here in Europe local calls are not free! Reading classiccmp online would soon be too expensive. Please keep the mailing list format. It is fast, simple, and easy to use. There are enough tools available to deal with the unavoidable spam. Kees. -- Kees Stravers - Geldrop, The Netherlands http://www.vaxarchive.org/ http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/

21 years, 6 months

Glacier Peak Rainbow

by gbs＠gstebbins.com

I just happened to run across your archived messages from last November when searching the 'net for something else. I'm not quite sure from what I saw exactly where the messages were posted. That sure brings back memories! I still have the old files from Glacier Peak Rainbow sitting on a hard drive (it's not like the old days when I was worrying about exceeding the space on a 10 or 20 MB hard drive). There are about 640 files in 22 MB. I could burn CDs for anyone interested. Gary Stebbins former Glacier Peak Rainbow sysop

21 years, 6 months

Looking for Mike Kenzie

by mhstein＠canada.com

Yo, Mike! Trying to get a hold of you to chat more about Cromemcos, but not getting through. Any ideas? m

21 years, 6 months

ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by mhstein＠canada.com

Present system is excellent; if changes in _addition_ to email list, good idea. m

21 years, 6 months

Caption Competition (bit OT)

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

Likewist, no caption, but I bet the houseplant is long gone. (So is the telly, and the wallpaper!) Doug Jackson Director, Managed Security Services Citadel Securix +61 (0)2 6290 9011 (Ph) +61 (0)2 6262 6152 (Fax) +61 (0)414 986 878 (Mobile) Web: <www.citadel.com.au> Offices in Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Hong Kong, Boston > -----Original Message----- > From: Dr. Ido [mailto:drido@optushome.com.au] > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:17 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Caption Competition (bit OT) > > > >http://helmies.org.uk/images/cap_comp.jpg > > > > > >Then come up with an amusing/apposite caption :) > > > >Bonus points for anyone who can identify the make/model of > machine she's > >actually using. HINT: this photo was published circa. 1983, > and is almost > >certainly British. > > No witty caption, but it looks like a Tandata TD1600 viatel/prestel > terminal. Used to have a stack of them here, couldn't think > of any use for > them so they were stripped for parts over time. > > CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

21 years, 6 months

Maxtor drive goes under

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Brian Chase" <vaxzilla(a)jarai.org> > >On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Philip Pemberton wrote: >> Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > >> > The drive we were having problems >> > with were 2 and 4 gig drives. These had a servo information >> > corruption problem ( that by design would always fail over time ). >> >> Guess that rules out Kalok then. They bit the big one in 1994, way before >> 2GB and 4GB drives started appearing... > >I'm going to guess Micropolis. Those drives were absolutely crap. > >-brian. > > Wow! The man is psychic! Dwight

21 years, 6 months

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test-drb January 2003