Please see my point-by-point comments below...
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, TX; USA
Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048
edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of JP Hindin
> <jplist(a)kiwigeek.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:08 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Jeffrey Sharp wrote:
> > Right away, I see several benefits:
> > - Members can participate from any computer with a web browser. Even
> lynx.
> And right now members can use any eMail client, even elm or
> mutt... They're just as common, right?
>
[Tillman, Edward] Web browsers are slower, crankier, and more of a
hassle than any email client, including the older ones...
> > - Anonymity and privacy can be more well-respected. The 'sender' of a
> > post is your username, not your email address. A system can be
> It surely can't be hard to have the mailing list archival software munge
> eMail addresses... It seems to be doing it now okay. Where's the problem?
>
[Tillman, Edward] If the person really wants that kind of privacy,
why is he/she here? From my admittedly short-lived perspective, this list
is a rather comfortable coming-together of professionals and hobbyists,
experts and laymen who like what they do, and want to share their
information and resources openly. Putting it all behind the proverbial
firewall would most assuredly kill it.
> > - There's no worry about HTML, attachments, wierd character sets,
> spam,
> > virii, or cctech moderation delay.
> You can't attach eMails to the list can you? (How do you attach a worm
> therefore?). As for HTML and character sets, its a small inconvenience
> honestly - not that many posters use it, after all.
>
[Tillman, Edward] Moderation delay *can* be a good thing. What's
the issue?
> > - Your inbox receives less clutter. You spend less bandwidth on mail.
> Instead you spend it on all the extra HTML markup on web page posts?
>
[Tillman, Edward] If folks want less clutter in their inboxes, they
can darned well configure their email clients with topic folders (rules...),
as I do both at home and at work. That way, the list downloads directly to
its folder, leaves my inboxes clean, and is in a tight package when I'm
ready to read it... Almost all email clients, regardless of age, allow
that.
> > - It scales well as more members join and start posting.
>
[Tillman, Edward] As an email list, directly configured into user
defined topic folders, this isn't even an issue.
> With a fine MTA (qmail anyone?) you can do alright, but I agree, a slick
> mod_perl style web interface probably scales "better".
> However, as my friend always used to say, when we are so logged with
> traffic that we have scaling issues - well that will be a good day indeed
> to know we are that popular, and dealing with it will be a joy.
> (He was a Buddhist, what can I say)
>
[Tillman, Edward] Buddist, huh? Maybe that's why all this is
working so well...? (snickers!, smiles!)
> > - Features you want can be added in code, quickly. The current setup
> is
> > great for turn-key mailing lists and such, but it is tough to
> extend.
>
> What kind of extra features?
>
[Tillman, Edward] Ditto... (?)
> This is just my two cents; I would rather not move to such a style of
> list. I think classiccmp is wonderful the way it is.
> Feel free to pick bones out of my retort.
>
[Tillman, Edward] Hehehe... I kow how you feel. Sysops, Admins
and Mods always wanna experiment, and sometimes, we even do it right. I
discovered a long time ago, to my chagrin when I lost over 100 users on a
BBS: If you have a good thing, don't mess with it.
> JP
>
> Acrobat 4 can import up to 50 files at once. So if you have
> scanned to 50 individual TIFFs you can import them all in
> one go (it's not that speedy though!). I expect that
> Acrobat 5 can also import, but I could never find the
> right menu ! What it can do (which 4 and earlier could not)
> is spit out a PDF file as individual G4 compressed TIFFs.
G4 compression is pretty poor. I really like DjVu format instead of
PDF. It uses much better compression technology (JBIG2 for bitonal
black/white and fractal compression for color images) and gives better
legibility as well. Check out the free, open source tools for creating
and viewing it at http://djvu.sourceforge.net/, and the free-beer
Windows and Mac viewers at www.djvu.com.
For DjVu examples, see some of the newer documents on my TRS-80 page,
http://www.tim-mann.org/misosys.html
I think Acrobat 5 may also have JBIG2 compression, though earlier
versions didn't, so if you have that, you may do about as well as DjVu
for bitonal (aka "line art") scans. People trying to view them will
need an up-to-date version of the Acrobat reader too, of course.
--
Tim Mann tim(a)tim-mann.org http://www.tim-mann.org/
So I should offer the guy something like 10 bucks for it and then offer it
to the list for like 30 or, that way I can make some money to send to VISA
and someone who loves Macs will be happy and it won't get junked, in other
words. Please don't flame me for wanting to profit, but I'm seriously broke
and need to pay Chris Kennedy/Visa/my parents/go to college/get gas/fix my
power steering/pay J. Darren Petersen/etc. I think a $20 profit is fair, as
I already spent time finding it, gas getting there, and would spend money
obtaining it as well. Thoughts?
Will J
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I personally would hate/loathe/despise any web-based Krep, since I (and a
very small minority of others) read my mail in ASCII using Pine under a
Unix Shell account, and I ain't plannin' on a-changin' it.
Although there is something to be said of the Wikiwiki scenario... it
seems to bridge the User Interface gap well. Of course I can't speak as
to it's Admin or Secure aspects...
Cheers
7-Bit John
Wanna grab a shuttle pod and take a spin? I'm sure we can find an ol'
486/33 computer to run the thing...
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, TX; USA
Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048
edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Eric
> Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:20 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Cc: 3sdiarftt02(a)sneakemail.com
> Subject: Re: RE: M100 Keys Sought
>
> >> Should I bet on the galaxy?
> >
> > No keys.
>
> Are you certain? It has on occasion taken me 15 minutes to find keys
> just around my house. I'd expect that verifying that the M100 galaxy
> has no keys would take one heck of a long time.
>
>
>
>
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, TX; USA
Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048
edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Dwight K.
> Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:33 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: M100 Keys Sought
>
> >From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> >
> >> > Is that the Samsung M100 phone?
> >> > Or the Lotus Elan M100?
> >> > (I doubt that you have the M100 spiral galaxy for sale)
> >
> >On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Scarletdown wrote:
> >> I'll sell you the Large Magellanic Cloud for $50,000, and throw in
> >> the Small Magellanic Cloud as a bonus. :)
> >
> >Sorry.
> >Much as I'd love to add it to my collection, I'm having MAJOR
> >problems with storage space - I had to hand over most of my
> >collection to Sellam, just due to lack adequate space.
> >(space is NOT expanding)
> >
> >
>
> Hi
> EPA might complain. Super nova 1997A has been spewing
> out a lot of radio active waste. Since this is part of
> it, shipping may also be an issue.
> Dwight
>
[Tillman, Edward]
In that case, maybe a small lead-lined box? or ball? Wonder what
kind of safety features came with Orion's Belt? After all -- that big ol'
galaxy in that itty-bitty ball...
Cheers!
Personally, I'm likely to be far too lazy to post if it goes "blog".. WTF is
Kuro5hin? Slashdot is that linux thingy right?
Will J
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After the experiences my company has using Dell desktops with Maxtor drives,
as well as some personal experiences (below) I wouldn't have either a Dell
computer *or* a Maxtor drive anywhere near my personal system.
Dells today are the "Acer's" and "Packard Bells" of the current day - cheap,
not easily expandable, and quick to wear out. And here, we're replacing
Maxtor drives daily.
OTOH, the oldest drive in my home network, now revered and used as a zip
file storage drive, is a WD 720 "Caviar." That 720MB drive, small by
current day standards, survived a house fire last year that melted the case
it lived in. The frame, all the drives (3), and even my "ancient" AMD
450Mhz CPU chip survived. The box, however, is slag. I think I'll stay
with WD.
My current home *custom built) system boasts an AMD 1.1Ghz chip, 1 WD 8Gb
system drive, 2 WD 80GB personal account (6 family members) and application
drives, and the 1 old WD as a storage drive (aren't Promise cards
wonderful?!).
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, TX; USA
Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048
edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "J.C.Wren"
> <jcwren(a)jcwren.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:51 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: Maxtor drive goes under
>
> All drive manufacturers have particular models that have had
> problems. For
> instance, you'd have to pay me a damn lot of money to stick anything that
> says "Western Digital" in my systems. I've been running Maxtors for
> years,
> and I recently had a 60GB D740X toast itself. First time ever. OTOH,
> I've
> had WDs belly-up left and right. I used to be a big fan of IBM drives,
> until the DeathStar 60GXP and 75GXP debacle.
>
> www.storagereview.com is a good place to get comparisons of HDs.
> And you
> can contribute your experiences to the database. The database covers a
> lot
> of drives, but was initially started because of the 60GXP and 75GXPs. IBM
> was claiming there was no problem, the rest of the world proved them
> horribly wrong.
>
> Personally, I'll stick with Maxtors. I've got 10 Maxtors HDs
> currently
> spinning here (ranging from 27GB 5400 RPM to 80GB 7200 RPM drives), and
> this
> D740X is the first bad one. And Maxtor has (or had) a damn good warranty.
> There's been some talk about Maxtor and WD going from 3 year warranties to
> 1
> year. Something about getting too expensive, since HDs rarely stay in
> service 3 years (in the real world. Don't start talking here about how
> we're all still running drives from the '70's yada yada yada. We're not a
> real cross section of the market).
>
> --John
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
> > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On
> > Behalf Of Cameron Kaiser
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 00:34
> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> > Subject: OT: Maxtor drive goes under
> >
> >
> > I believe Sellam was cursing at a Maxtor drive a couple
> > months back, and
> > now I know why.
> >
> > The 60GB ATA/133 DiamondStar in my Power Mac 7300 (connected
> > through a Sonnet
> > Tempo Trio) this evening made several hiccup-like noises and
> > the computer
> > froze up. On the next power cycle, it didn't spin up and just
> > sat there and
> > clicked. I suspected stiction (well, I prayed it was
> > stiction) and tried
> > reorienting it and a few gentle taps. On the next power
> > cycle, it didn't even
> > click anymore and made occasional soft grinding noises, and
> > now it doesn't
> > even do that.
> >
> > So, I'm typing this on my Power Book 1400, which I guess will
> > be my desktop
> > system for the time being.
> >
> > Any suggestions for ways to get it to spin up, one last time?
> > Anyone know
> > what happened? I thought it had been a power problem because
> > it made some
> > sounds like this a few weeks ago and replacing the power
> > cable did seem to
> > cure it, but I'm mystified as to why it would die so fast.
> > The drive was not
> > especially hot and it has plenty of ventilation.
> >
> > I guarantee you my next drive will not be a Maxtor.
> >
> > Sorry for the OT -- just looking for any desperation
> > suggestions before I
> > make a new hard drive platter wall clock.
> >
> > --
> > ----------------------------- personal page:
> > http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --
> > Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University *
> > ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu
> > -- Son, God's going to use you. Until He does, take this
> > pill. -- Mark Lowry --
>
>
For what its worth, I know how to hack the QSEFCOR password... And I have 3
different MULIC tapes, too.. I'm working on getting more, to provide an
archive for other 400-heads like myself.. I own like 7 of the things if you
count the couple machines that exist in board state only.. Indeed, on the
RISC machines the license is implicitly transferred with the machine, I
believe it even says you MUST transfer the license and s/w with the
machine...
Will J
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> With Tony et al as my inspiration, I have recently started to learn
> electronics. I've been at it a couple of days, and tonight I just had the
> "aha!" for how high-pass and low-pass filters work. I haven't come across
> anything yet that has me completely stumped, but if I do, is it appropriate
> to ask newbie questions about electronics here?
>
> I'm supposed to *answer* questions like that, but I just don't know.
> Typically, I call electronics conversations as on-topic because they are
> directly relevant to operating classic computers. Newbie questions, however,
> are more indirect. For another example, we'll help someone with a Windows
> program that somehow makes his/her classiccmp go, but I doubt we'll bother
> to teach a person in-list how to double-click. Is electronics any different?
I'm inclined to say begining electronics questions would be ontopic. Sure
it's a bit of a stretch, but I sure wouldn't complain. Unfortunatly I'm
starting to doubt I'll ever find time to ask them myself :^(
Zane
