test-drb June 2002

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by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Well what's the cheapest way to get into somthing running real VMS? Even for a single user (can I connect it to my home network and telnet to it from linux) (wishing for authorize just one more time....) BTW I have PC-DCL (HMM gotta look up the source on that to see if it can be a linux shell.....) Ron.

22 years, 1 month

Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>> 5.5 is available on CD, it's just not easy to get. > >If I had it, I wouldn't be asking. :-) Do you mean 5.5 or 5.5-2? I certainly have the latter (as, I expect, do many others) and I may have the former. Assuming you have a hobbyist licence and can find wherever it is that says given the licence, you can have someone make you a copy, then I can cartainly do that - although you may find it easier to get someone in the US to do it for you. >Is that a DEC (HP) product or Freeware? LDDRIVER was a midnight project by an engineer inside DEC and is now on the Freeware CDs (and is accessible on the Web from the OpenVMS home page - browse the latest online Freeware CD). >> Actually on second thought this would probably be easiest on a SCSI based >> VAX with an RZ25. > >How about a SCSI-based Alpha? If you want to build a bootable VAX disk (even just S/A BACKUP then using aVAX and a container file is by far the easiest way). You can pull apart STABACKIT.COm >from a VAX distribution and see what it does and replicate by hand - but it's a fair amount of work! > And how about an RZ26 that isn't more than >65% full? If physical size really matters, I could throw an ST1480 >drive on the Alpha and have 424MB - plenty of room for this task. The trick is to use a container disk that is no more than 650MB (or 700MB). The problem is that your RZ26 has too much room and you have no control where things go unless you work at it very hard - it's just *so* much easier to use LDRIVER and a container file (on your RZ26 if you like). >Would it be a problem for cross-platform? I know it's easy to make No - just cluster a VAX with you Alpha for a while and let it take the strain :-) Antonio

22 years, 1 month

Motorola S-record converter source for new project

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 5, 23:59, Tony Duell wrote: > If it's that much work to get it to compile, it's going to be less work > to write my own from scratch. Intel Hex is hardly complex [1] and all I > need is binary -> hex (so I can transfer files to my EPROM programmer...) > which is the easier direction in general. > > [1] And I even have an Intel manual giving a semi-official version of the > spec... There's a flat-ASCII copy of the Intel spec, including type 3,4, and 5 records, for 8-, 16- and 32-bit formats, at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/IntelHEX/hexspec.txt as well as my simpler description at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/IntelHEX/IntelHEX.txt I'm sure you could just use James' code (plain C, no fancy C++ or other complexities, and quite small) at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/IntelHEX/ihex.tar -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 1 month

Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>The Hobbyist license allows you to make copies of >DEC/Compaq media, however, I'm not sure if it allows >you to make copies of the Hobbyist CD's. At http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/terms_and_conditions.txt it states that you can make *one* archival backup for yourself of the Hobbyist media. I don't see anywhere that states that you can copy that media for other hobbyists (which, admittedly, you didn't claim it said you could do) nor do I see anywhere that states that anyone else can copy something for you. Antonio

22 years, 1 month

Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> >Is it legal to distribute an ISO file of that to people with >a hobby license? I have the later Hobbyist CD, but would >love to have a copy of the original one. No idea. I'm pretty sure I've seen trustworthy people indicate that this can be done and that the licence allows you to get media anyway you can, including copying. If you can find a statement to that effect on either the montagar webpage or somewhere in the OpenVMS web pages, that'll do for me. Quite how you convince anyone that you have a hobbyist licence is another matter. Antonio

22 years, 1 month

Any familar with "Disk-A-Tape"?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone here familar with a device called Disk-A-Tape? It's paper tape emulator that uses a HH 5 1/4" floppy disk drive. (The drive is mounted in a filler plate that fits in a mount for a HH 8" floppy drive). It mounts in a 19" rack and is about 8" tall and 12" deep. Besides the drive, it has a reset pushbutton, an Init/Job toggle switch, FWD/Rev toggle switch, Read/Write toggle switch, Emulate/Off/RS-232 toggle switch and a small 8 digit LED display and an AC power switch on the front panel. On the back it has a DB-25M and DB-25F connectors. There are two circuit cards in them, one small one and a larger wire wrap card. I haven't taken it apart and looked at the ICs on the boards yet. I picked up two of these today, mostly out of curiousity. They came out of what looked like some kind of CNC machinery controller. There was also a DEC PDP-11/04 in one of the chassis. BTW I was searching the net for info on this and found this <http://www.fastec.com/xdisk/> instead. Interesting but I'm not sure it's it's related to what I have or not. joe

22 years, 1 month

Replacement tube for IBM 026 Printing Card Punch

by mhscc＠canada.com

IIRC, the pile of punch card equipment manuals I sent to Norm Aleks included the 24/26 Operating Manual, the 24 Series Customer Engineering manual, and schematics for the 24 and 56, and Norm did solemnly promise to scan these and make them available on the Web; why not drop him a line. mike ------------Original Message---------- From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> To: Classic Computers Mailing List <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Replacement tube for IBM 026 Printing Card Punch So I'm off to look for a 25L6 tube for my IBM 026. <snip>

22 years, 1 month

Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>ISTR hearing mention a while back that the remote diag console on the 6K >VAXen spoke a flavor of serial DECnet. Any experience with something like >that? It would be useful, or at least interesting, to provide a remote >console for them. The remote diag consoles spoke (I guess) plain serial between the console and the local DEC Remote Diagnostic Console box and some undocumented, secret (and now probably forgotten) protocol between the RDC and its partner unit at the support centre. As for running DDCMP over the console line, it's probably possible but usually not a good idea (the console line is usually deliberately pretty dumb, the principle being that it's harder to screw up that way). Antonio

22 years, 1 month

Motorola S-record converter source for new project

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > Earlier this evening I was thinking about a project that will involve (in > part) translating binary to/from IntelHex (or Motorola S-record would do, > actually). Can you give me a URL for that source code you mentioned (or > any other source code for a simular program). http://www.canb.auug.org.au/~millerp/srecord/srecord.html My recollection is that when I first tried to install SRecord version 1.5 (a couple of years ago) I found that it was written in a sufficiently new dialect of C++ that it didn't want to go down the gcc 2.7.mumble that I was running on the intended FreeBSD box. One short upgrade of FreeBSD later I had a newer version of gcc in the base system and it was building and running SRecord. #include <rant/c++/moving-target> -Frank McConnell

22 years, 1 month

Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Sounds close. Maybe a DMR11 for Unibus? (We didn't have one for >Qbus) I know that machine also had a DMR11 but I'm pretty sure that was a high speed parallel interface. My docs are not handy, so I'm not going to swear to it. >Why do bugs matter? In that machine's case, because I was using it to support the Phase IV and Phase V WAN Drivers code on OpenVMS VAX. In the general case, because they've paid for my house (either because I had to fix other people's or because other people paid me to generate them :-) ) > Antonio

22 years, 1 month

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test-drb June 2002